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vaidya nathan

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Jun 20, 2025, 12:17:53 AM6/20/25
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Updation delay.

Let us Not  Blame Or bring God for the Blunders and mistakes, misunderstanding and Ego of human.  God has shown the way for peaceful and amicable settlement. If one Hand refuses to come for handshake, for so many years and decades,  the last resort is to get third party intervention i.e. court. Court should understand the Importance of seeking its help as a Last Straw, instead of advicing to Seek Bilateral Talk.   Retirees have some Faith in Law atleast to Open the Door.
VAIDYANATHAN 

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 5:25 PM <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Niranjan Cn <niran...@gmail.com>: Jun 18 04:06PM +0530

Sirs,
 
When Singlas case is in final stage, and AIBPARC is sure of success and
updation on RBI Pattern - WHY HUNGER STRIKE NOW ? ANY LOGIC ?
 
Niranjan
 
JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Jun 19 12:12PM +0530

Irrespective of the above circular AIBPARC is not sure of success of
Singhla case and had approached IBA for a settlement. AIBPARC akso had
demanded an out of court settlement. Pensioners are also do not have any
expectations about Singhla Case. But if the case concludes early it will
make way for negotiations between IBA and UFBU. When IBA is not even ready
to improve ex-.gratia amount which may be some Rs.100 -1000 per person, how
can we expect updation on RBI lines.
AIBPARC has used all weapons in its arsenal like writing letters to
DFS,conducting Dharnas and demonstrations, meeting IBA, writing to UFBU
etc, but nothing worked. Now AIBPARC wants to draw the attention of all
concerned by hunger strike.
 
 
JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Jun 19 02:48PM +0530

What happened in the AIBRF and UFBU meeting on 18th June 2025.
 
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 12:12 PM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>
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Mohan V.R <vrmoh...@gmail.com>: Jun 18 04:05PM +0530

Respected Sir,
A small correction. This is the Original team that got elected in the
Conference but not in the good books of CHV.
 
It is your *ATTITUDE* *not *your *APTITUDE* which determines your
*ALTITUDE* in life.
 
On Wed, 18 Jun, 2025, 3:23 pm S H Subramanian, <canma...@gmail.com>
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Mathrubootham Sreenivasan <cheen...@yahoo.co.in>: Jun 18 11:30AM

If there’s God  he could only solve retirees’ issues like updation of pension and parity of d a as per existing employees/staff
 
 
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On Wednesday, June 18, 2025, 4:52 PM, MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
Dear Friends,
 
01.Retirees who are keenly  observing every past developments onresolving  retirees issues  may not view the latest development  of filing a case before Mumbai High Court by AIBOA,as a right step, especially while they are one of the parties authorised todiscuss and resolve  employees as well asretirees issues with IBA under BPS/JN system prevailing.(Though not discussing!)
 
02.Especially, while the leader of majority employeesunion often found blaming retirees/their Associations  for seeking judicial remedy even in issuesunresolved under bilateral talks!
 
At the same time,it is an undisputed reality  that we could resolve a number of unresolved longpending issues through legal fight.
 
03.IBA too found asked AIBPARC in their latest meet  to withdraw the case pending before Apex Court(SLP(C)5561/2016 on Updation of Pension) to pave way  for  bilateral discussions and resolution.Intentionmay be good some time.
 
03.Even decade back while dismissing the CWP-6233/2008  filed by M C SINGLA and Ors Vs Union of India,before Punjab and Haryana High Court,Chandigarh, on Updation of Pension on16.04.2012 the single Judge recorded as follows,:
 
Quote:
 
“I am merely stating this in the passing that thepetitioners could not have come to the High Court for enforcement under Article226 when they could have only pressed for better rights through negotiationsin the manner that the settlement talks provided. It would be open for thepetitioners to make the demands for parity if they are so advised and usetheir bargaining skills through
 
the mechanism provided their associations and pressfor the reliefs though under the Industrial Disputes Act.”
 
04.Hon.FM /MOF too often stated in Parliament while answeringquestions on Updation of Pension to arrive on consensus betweenunions and IBA under existing system of bilateral discussions and send theproposal to them  to sort out the issue.Samehas not happened so far!
 
05.Though retirees Apex Organisations demanded for aplatform to share their views on retirees issues IBA is always reluctant to entertainthem.Even UFBU too never had effective discussions with retirees ApexOrganisations on their issues!
 
06.As indicated by court and Ministry ,all may agree thatdirect dialogue with IBA by Unions is the best way to resolve our issues,than seekinglegal remedy.
 
Under this backdrop action of a party  who is part of existing system itself seeklegal remedy afresh now  on retireesissues may raise doubt  on  real motive behind their action at thisjuncture!   A chance to IBA to advocate on “ Subjudice” .Sadstate of affairs!
 
 
 
 
 
On Tue, 17 Jun, 2025, 7:38 am MOHAN P, <moha...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Pl.read below:
 
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vaidya nathan <vvn.m...@gmail.com>: Jun 18 06:13PM +0530

Updation Of Pension.
 
Instead of waiting for Updation, which has No line, way to see light, due
to Subjudice Title Conferred, Retirees Assn can go for DA to Exgratia
which has No objections from Court, since Till time, Nobody raised
objections. They can Ask for Increasing Exgratia atleast by 1000 each
Year. That itself will gove Nog relief to very Seniors of 80 and plus. With
DA applying on Ex-gratia, this will to a Great extend come close to
Updation.
Let us Try what is possible, instead of Waiting for something Not feasible
in Near future
Vaidyanathan
 
 
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Sriram N

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Jun 22, 2025, 11:43:47 PM6/22/25
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Sir

What you are saying is true.
With regards to last sentence, so much time has passed and still not yielding any resulting. Let's hope for the best.

Regards 

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