If all these arguments withstand are 2001 retirees eligible for arrears from 2003 settlement and all next settlements?
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1. The IBA argues that Regulation 35(1) is fundamentally a pension fixation formula meant for a specific historical window, not an express, self-executing updation mandate. Under this view, any right to updation must be derived indirectly through interpretation, as the text doesn't explicitly mention "future" or "automatic" revisions.
2.
The Petitioners’ Counter (The 2003 Turning Point):
The
2003 amendment fundamentally changed the nature of the clause. By
replacing "will be updated" with "shall
be updated" and
pluralizing "formula" to "formulae," the
regulation moved from a one-time event to an ongoing obligation. This
pluralization strongly implies an intent to incorporate new formulas
for every subsequent pay revision, making the mandate dynamic.
3. The Court’s recent demand for comparative charts across three distinct periods is a significant signal. While we must remain grounded, the likely judicial outcome may be a "middle path":
Recognizing the pensioners’ grievances as genuine and legally grounded in the 2003 amendment.
Directing the IBA to frame a structured formula and take a policy decision within a strict, time-bound frame to resolve the disparity.
This isn't just fond hope; it’s a pragmatic expectation based on the Bench's current direction.
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Part I.
Dear Shri Prasad ji,
The "Vested Rights" doctrine essentially says that if the law (like the 2003 amendment) granted you a benefit, the IBA’s failure to "notify a formula" is their administrative mistake, and the pensioner shouldn't be the one to pay for it.
1. The "Quantum" vs. "Right" Fallacy
You suggest that once the bank starts paying you any amount, the "vested right" is satisfied.
2. When does a "Future Updation" become a "Vested Right"?
3. The "Arbitrary Date" Trap
Extending Nakara would cover "every former employee."
4. "Vested vs. Accrued" distinction fails:
In the Chairman, Railway Board vs. C.R. Rangadhamaiah case, the Court held that any amendment that reduces the amount of pension a person is entitled to (by failing to update it as per rules) is a violation of vested rights.
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Part II.
Dear Friends,
I have read the recent responses with interest. It is clear that within our group, there are two distinct schools of thought regarding CA 7993/2023:
Both sides are clearly settled in their convictions, perceptions, and understanding of the law. At this stage, continuing the debate often leads to the same questions being met with the same answers, without bringing us any closer to a shared conclusion. I feel, further debate will only lead to a circular and divisive atmosphere.
There is a profound saying: 'Silence is the highest teaching.'
I believe it is time for me to embrace that teaching. We have all placed our best arguments on the table. The matter is now exactly where it belongs—before the Hon'ble Supreme Court. Let us allow the Bench to perform its duty while we, as a group, preserve our unity.
I suggest we all rest and relax until April 9th. Let us wait for the Court’s observations in the next hearing to show us the path forward.
With regards to all.
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On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 at 16:26, Satyanarayana Rao<karna...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:Sri Sanjay.
Your presentation of the issues involved in Singla ji Case are highly commendable.
Let us keep quite till the verdict is delivered and maintain equilibrium without presuming or assuming the legal status of the arguments.
Let the legal experts maintain restraint without pocking and by their negative thinking.
The supreme court bench is the only compitent to give justice to Pensioners by their favorable verdict to all by giving speaking,unambiguous orders to defendants upholding the appeal of petitioners.
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