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vaidya nathan

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Dec 19, 2025, 5:15:50 AM (4 days ago) Dec 19
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Jeevan Praman submission.

Thanks to Mr Sanjay and Mr Kushal for their good positive experience. Let me also go through that Next year and get positive experience.

Vaidyanathan V

On Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 5:25 PM <bankpe...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Srinivas Natekar <nat...@gmail.com>: Dec 17 10:42PM -0800

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kushal mukhoti <kush...@gmail.com>: Dec 18 12:11PM +0530

Mr. Sanjay j
 
I share your positive experience with the Jeevan Pramaan application for
submitting my life certificate. As a super senior citizen, I've used it
successfully for years without any problems. Confirmation is instant from
the app and is typically received quickly from the bank.
 
While new users may find the initial registration process challenging,
subsequent submissions are generally easier. The only slight hurdle is
achieving successful face recognition. Despite that, this remains the
superior method for submitting a life certificate, especially for seniors
like myself.
 
KM.
 
 
MOHAN P <moha...@gmail.com>: Dec 17 07:12PM +0530

Dear Mr Saibabu,
We can imagine a lot of things.Let us think about practical aspect of
protest in any manner . Our organisations are currently doing it. Out of
eight or seven lakhs pensioners how many persons can use internet/social
media or whatsapp as of now?Forget about their families.
Have you ever seen or observed about the real number of pensioners
participated in demonstrations held at Jantar Mantar New Delhi as per call
given by our Retirees Apex Organisations that too with lot of repeated
communications and reminders?
It may come around only in hundreds or thousand in numbers.Can we blame any
one?You are talking about 10 lakhs pensioners coming all the way to New
Delhi for one day to sit before SC,who are on their 70's and 80's now!
Let us think about exploring the existing mechanisam either through legal
front or negotiations in effective and time bound manner.
Regards,
 
 
 
On Wed, 17 Dec, 2025, 4:20 pm Saibabu Madiraju, <madiraj...@gmail.com>
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Saibabu Madiraju <madiraj...@gmail.com>: Dec 17 07:22PM +0530

Thank you sir, I agree with you. Now I feel those who are 60+ we can count
them can be around a couple of lakhs. If we can plan to mobilize then, it
will definitely touch others, that way we can at least have some hope. I
don't know how to proceed. I am happy to receive any advice sir. Regs
 
JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Dec 18 12:15PM +0530

We have to think about practical and working solutions. If at all you want
to take out a rally, do it before the AIBEA and AIBOC and IBA offices like
RBI employees/retirees did in front of their regional offices. Not Jantar
Mantar.
Punjab and Chandigarh High Court has observed that Petitioners instead of
negotiating with management should not have come to us citing article 226.
DFS also has replied in Parliament that if a proposal is submitted by IBA
it will be considered. So the message is very clear. Bank retirees' demands
are decided in BPS between iBA and UFBU. *Initiative should come from
UFBU not from CJI .IBA or DFS.*
It does not matter how many representations retirees submit to DFS, demand
/recommendations is valid if it comes from UFBU and IBA. UFBU should have
taken a delegation to DFS exclusively for updation.
AIBOA as an authorised union to negotiate issues should not have filed
another new case, AIBOA could have joined M C Singhla case and filed a
reply to UBA affidavit.Unless UFBU take issues seriously nothing will
happen on negotiation front.
As regards SC case petitioners have lost twice in High court. Again Same
old weak arguments like parity with Central Govt pensioners, Reg 35/1,
Parity with RBI etc. Who does not want arrears if we succeed in M C
Singhla case? But indefinite adjournments some times because of petitioners
and respondents and some times because of court listing procedures making
lakhs of pensioners frustrating.
Nothing is going right on the litigation or negotiation front.
I suggest at least submit a thousand letters to AIBEA and AIBOC to take up
updation and merger of DA issues positively in the next meeting as no
ground for sub judice exists unless there is astay from SC.
Only AIBEA and AIBOC can resolve issues.
 
On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 9:48 AM Saibabu Madiraju <madiraj...@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
Niranjan Cn <niran...@gmail.com>: Dec 18 10:24AM +0530

Good Morning,
 
Wishful Thoughts.
 
We should analysis why Pension Updation is not taking place ? and reasons
thereof. There is a need to define - what is 'Updation' also.
Unless the above aspects are clear, remedy will be elusive/confusing only.
 
Niranjan
 
On Tue, Dec 16, 2025 at 3:31 PM JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
RAMANI NV <ramani...@gmail.com>: Dec 18 11:29AM +0530

Employees in Service on Day of Retirement Entitled to Revised Pension:
Supreme Court https://share.google/fB7nJHkykzSTZOPh4
JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Dec 17 03:55PM +0530

IBA-UFBU-AIBRF-AIBPARC
Single] Goal
M C singhla case continue forever-BPS discussion stall citing sub judice.
 
JSOMA SHEKARA <jsomase...@gmail.com>: Dec 17 05:41PM +0530

Plaint copy has not been shared anywhere.
However please watch a youtube video clicking the following link in which
entire demand list of singla case is explained.
https://youtu.be/hGi1nZ8s3Z8?si=pstfkM8PmpzhRgk4
 
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