WHAT IS BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT AND PENSION REGULATION 1995

[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Dear Retirees/Pensioners,

First of all, I Also want to say thanks to our O.M.PRAKASH SHARMA Ji’s, recent message which gave a clear picture about the Unions and our Associations activities/Attitudes towards the BANK EMPLOYEES WELFARE. Here I mean BANK EMPLOYEES means both bank employees in SERIVCE AND ALSO bank employees on retirement. Here once again I mean Banks means I confined to our Nationalized Banks only. I don’t want to pull the CO-OPERATIVE BANKS OR PRIVATE BANKS here. You all know Retirees means both Pensioners and Retired with P.F. You also know here, Bank Pensioners means only Retirees who are all drawing Pension from their Banks. Naturally, OUR BANK EMPLOYEES PENSION REGULATIONS 1995 IS PURELY FOR PENSIONERS COMMUNITY ONLY. Whereas the ‘ BIPARTITE SETTLEMENTS ‘ MEANS IT is for the whole BANK EMPLOYEES COMMUNITY,IN OTHER WAY, BANK EMPLOYEES MEANS ALL BANK EMPLOYEES IN SERVICE AND ALSO BANK RETIREES WHO ARE ALL RETIRED EITHER IN SUPER ANNUATION OR RETIRED UNDER VRS WITH PENSION OR WITHOUT PENSION OR RETIRED UNDER S V R S OR UNDER COMPULSORY RETIREMENT, PREMATURE RETIREMENT,INVALID PENSION. Bi-Partite Settlement is being conducted every five years once. This settlement is nothing but fixation of wage Revision for the ‘BANK EMPLOYEES IN TOTO ‘. WHY I express repeatedly means many of the CLERICAL SECTOR UNIONS are thinking that this Bi- Partite settlement is for ‘Bank employees in SERVICE ONLY NOT FOR THE BANK RETIREE’S. To support my point , let us take this “ TENTH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT ” ,that is the period is “NOV’2012 to Oct’2017 ”. What way the Bank Retiree’s are benefited in this Tenth Bipartite settlement. Nothing, Nothing, Nothing. All the Welfare benefits are shared among the Clerical cadre and  the Officer cadre in ‘S E R V ICE ‘ and not even 1 % contribution is shared towards the Bank Retirees. Throw' ‘Joint NOTES ‘ both IBA and UFBU signed and closed the Wage Revision Door. Bank employers are extending welfare benefits to Bank Employees under wage Revision. Is it not ?. On behalf of Banks , the Banks are nominating the third Party ,namely IBA and on behalf of Bank Employees , our so called UFBU . Both will sit and negotiate the Wage Revision. That is what going on from 7th Bipartite to 10th Bipartite. During the 7th Bipartite Settlement, Both IBA and UFBU went one step ahead and taken away the Pensioners accrued Benefits by amending the PENSION REGULATION 1995 under Reg.2 introducing UNDER SUB DIVISION 2 (S) added column (C). Do you know when they created this 2(s)(c). On 18th Jan2003 under JOINT NOTES ,both of them, none other than our great, great IBA and UFBU . At first instance, that is during 01-04-1998 to 30- 10-2002, Who are all retired under VRS with first option of Pension were not fixed the Basic Pension, their D.A and their Commutation as per the PENSION REGULATION 1995. All the banks neglected the PRE 1995 and fixed the D.A. at 1616 PTs instead of fixing under REG.37 as per Appendix II, that is by not fixing at 1148 PTs. Secondly , they have not added 5 Years Notional Service with the total qualifying service rendered by us in the respective Banks. And fixing our Basic Pension not as per the Pension Regulation under 2 (d), 29(5),35 and 38. Under REG. 38 says ‘the determination of the period of ten months for average emoluments :-1.) The period of the “preceding ten months for the purpose of average emoluments shall be reckoned from the date of Retirement. (read Reg.2(d)- A.Es-means the average of the pay drawn by an employee during the ‘ last ten months of his service in the bank ) . But the banks have not considered for fixing our emoluments not preceding ten months for calculating the average emoluments from the date of Retirement but the banks fixed retrospectively going back for calculating the basic Pension and so also the commutation which is calculated on the basis of Basic Pension. When the Basic Pension is not proper as per the PRE 1995, the commutation is also defective and not as per REG. 41 and hence in the CIVIL Appeal NO:5525 OF 2012 B.O.B AS Appellant VS G.PALANI AND OTHERS as Defenders, the SUPREME COURT DISMISSED THE APPEAL OF B.O.B AND gave judgement on 13-02-1918 in favor of our Pension Commune COMRADE G.PALANI & OTHERS .Our Honorable Supreme Court not only quashed the JOINT NOTES created by both IBA and UFBU , the court ordered to calculate the Pension arrears by strictly following word by word as stated in PENSION REGULATIONS 1995 with 9 % interest till the date of payment of Pension Arrears. Here the Pension Arrears means Basic Pension, D.A AND COMMUTATION. Many of our Pension Commune is worried about not receiving arrears from their banks even after the contempt of court Judgement. Dear Retirees/Pensioners, if the Banks not paid today, they have to pay the arrears with interest at 9 % in the near future. You get 9 % interest towards arrears. Which bank is giving 9 % interest for our Deposits? Still a lot to tell . Let me continue in the next session about 8 th Bipartite both played on 100 % Neutralization applicable only for post 2002 pensioners and not for PRE 2002 again throw ‘ JOINT NOTES ‘. Even in Contempt of Court Case the STATE BANK said that the D.A is Paid as per the Bipartite Settlement. Why Bipartite settlement is coming here. PRE 1995 speaks a lot. The Supreme Court clearly says the PRE1995 Is supreme Power and no executives plight or throw Officer’s Join Notes cannot tamper the Policy. Rest is in next session.

With regards,

RAMAKRISHNAN.RP., VRS PENSIONER,INDIAN BANK

[thirumalaisamy]

Sir Resignee pension option issue is not taken.Resignee bank officers who have completed more than thirty years services but till date they are not getting pension.Number of resignee resigned due to medical reasons.Why all are missing in circular and discussion resignee pension option demand . Kindly help Resignee pension option demand issue.
With thanks again
Thirumalaisamy T

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[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Hello,

It seems you are well aware of all about bank pensioners and Retirees Welfare angel. Will you please tell me , on one side, we are demanding D.A as per Hon'ble Supreme court order and on the other side, we are also demanding 100 % D.A  Neutralization. Pl. tell me which is beneficial and if so, how it will be implemented ???. Also many of them , me too, don't know under what formula the second optee Pensioners D.A is being paid. Is it under tapered  one or Not ???? Let me get some information from you, since you know everything !!!!

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[Velayudhan Nair]

Shri RRP, both are our rights.We should claim for both.Have you read
the e magazine by SBMPC?If so, you might have got an idea on DA 1148
issue.

By the by, please do not discourage anybody who argues for the welfare
of the ailing, dying OLD retirees.

TKU
warm reg


CPVNAIR

On 9/27/19, RAMAKRISHNAN R P <ramakri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> It seems you are well aware of all about bank pensioners and Retirees
> Welfare angel. Will you please tell me , on one side, we are demanding D.A
> as per Hon'ble Supreme court order and on the other side, we are also
> demanding 100 % D.A Neutralization. Pl. tell me which is beneficial and if
> so, how it will be implemented ???. Also many of them , me too, don't know
> under what formula the second optee Pensioners D.A is being paid. Is it
> under tapered one or Not ???? Let me get some information from you, since
> you know everything !!!!
>
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>> The period of the “preceding* ten months for the purpose of average
>> emoluments shall be reckoned from the date of Retirement.* (read

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[Padam Singh]

Respected Rama Krishna ji, Will you please explain regarding 100 Percentage da neutralisation. Will it be applicable to all retired persons with svrs 2001 Too. Will there be a clause of minimum basic pension or also for each pensioner. Regarding information required by you it is sure that second pension optees are being paid tappered da because I am getting as second pension optee despite I was pension optee since pension scheme was implemented and I have been paid pension and arrears from 1.4.2001.I took vrs on 31.03.2001. under svrs2001.

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[Suresh Multani]

Sir Resignee pension option issue is not taken.Resignee bank officers who have completed more than  thirty years services but till date they are not getting pension.Number of resignee resigned due to medical reasons.Why all are missing in circular and discussion resignee pension option demand . Kindly help Resignee pension option demand issue.
With thanks again 

suresh pratap multani

worked 32 years with UBI. Resigned on medical ground. waiting for justice.

with regards 

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[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Dear CPV NAIR JI,

WHOM I HAVE DISCOURAGED. I THING YOU ARE MISTAKEN  ME . I never discouraged any body. Your last para is not relevant with my messages. You identified me wrongly, I suppose. Regarding the Reg.37 is not a new concept. Kindly read once again our Honorable Supreme court order dated 13.02.2018. We have been fighting from 2001 onwards. Our demand is not followed and fixed the basic pension , D.A  and commutation as per  the Bank Employees Pension Regulation 1995. If they pay D.A. by fixing at 1148 pts. From the date of Retirement till date ( including the present month Sept2019 ) ,our pension per month will increase by 5000 to 7500/= which is better than fixing 100 % Neutralisation. That does not  I mean we should not demand.  First we will get D.A as per 1148 PTs.  till the present month . Then we will fight to get neutralized D.A after 1148 Pts. D.A. at par with the post 2002 Pensioners.

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[Debasish Mukherjee]

100% D.A. is certainly beneficial for all irrespective of date of retirement. We have to be rigid in
our demand for payment of 100% D.A. as only the pre Nov.2002 retirees cannot be discriminated from
payment of this benefit. Already some Bank retiree Associations have filed Curative petition for
payment of this benefit.

Debasish Mukherjee,
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 09:40:02 +0530 RAMAKRISHNAN R P wrote
>Hello,It seems you are well aware of all about bank pensioners and Retirees Welfare angel. Will you

please tell me , on one side, we are demanding D.A as per Hon'ble Supreme court order and on the other
side, we are also demanding 100 % D.A  Neutralization. Pl. tell me which is beneficial and if so, how
it will be implemented ???. Also many of them , me too, don't know under what formula the second optee
Pensioners D.A is being paid. Is it under tapered  one or Not ???? Let me get some information from
you, since you know everything !!!!

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[Velayudhan Nair]

OK RRP.Sorry, if I mistook you.

Now, why can't we ponder over putting up a tough fight together under
the guidance from a knowledgable person like C N Prasad?Let the
retirees from all the banks join together to put up cases in all the
high courts with a common plaint?Kindly ponder over it.



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[Srinivasa Murti Devulapalli]

APPEAL LETTER  FOR PAYMENT OF COMMUTATION ARREARS/ENHANCEMENT IN FAMILY PENSION/PENSION UPDATION  IS APPENDED IN THE FOLLOWING LINK:  
I have today mailed my appeal letter as contained in the following link, to our  Syndicate Bank management  (through my Pension Paying Branch(#3343Labbipet:Vijayawada)  under copy to:
01. Sri Narendra Modi, Hon'ble Prime Minister  &02. Smt. Nirmala Sitharaman, Hon'ble Finance Minister
marking a copy of the same to my pension Paying Branch (#3343 Synd.Bk.Labbipet:Vijayawada Branch)

I have taken out FOUR hard copies of the same to be sent to the above mentioned address by SPEED POST/COURIER.

As it is very much convenient  for me, I have chosen to visit our Labbipet:Vijayawada Branch to  hand over the hard copies in person  with a request  to forward the same to our Head Office.
I once again appeal to you all to follow the same procedure.  
Kindly  forward your online appeal to me at - devulapa...@gmail.com  unfailingly.
Also please forward this communication to all your friends for their easy compliance to derive satisfaction of their joining this mass movement.

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[RAMAKRISHNAN R P]

Dear CPV NAIR JI,

Kindly see my message during Aug2019 , I have written that time has come to join together and under the leader ship of our C.N.PRASAD ,WE all should join together by forming a Forum exclusively for BANK RETIREES AND THE PENSIONERS. BY KEEPING THE GREAT ACTIVIES LIKE OUR DEBASSIS JI, G.PALANI AND OTHERS, DNS MURTHY GARU JI, S.V.SRINIVASAN JI, VASU DEVAN JI-CBREA, O.M.PRAKASH JI, PM JI, OUR GREAT SOMA SHEKAR JI, MOHANDAS RAO JI AND YOU . I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT OUR UFBU AND IBA WILL REPEAT IN THE 11TH WAGE REVISION ALSO LIKE  THE 10 TH BI-PARTIATE SETTLEMENT BY KEEPING US ASIDE WITH JOINT NOTES  AND NOT SHARRING A SINGLE RUPPEE IN OUR FAVOUR. PL.LET US WAKE UP AND FORM A FORUM WITH ABLE LEADERS AND DO ATLEAST GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

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[Velayudhan Nair]

VERY true RRPji.Please contact Shri CNP and seek his valuable opinions
in this regard.I repeat my earlier view that an ONLINE outfit could be
launched to proceed with legal actions on the updation, DA-1148 issue
etc.NO PAPER WORK except for court proceedings.If we can bring around
say 5000 retirees from various banks, it could not be that
difficult.Each retiree should be willing to join the suit and should
be willing to contribute.

Now it is made clear to each and every bank retiree that there is
nobody to help, no outfit to argue for them.So it is high time we
determine the names of High Courts where we could file the suits.If we
can carry the issue direct to the Apex court, it would be better.(I do
not know whether it is permissible under law and in the SBMPC case, SC
has advised to approach the 'appropriate forum'.

Hope dear RRPji, each one of us would ponder over the matter at the
right earnest.



warm reg




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[Ravindra Kohli]

I also endorse the views of Nair Ji and RRP Ji and request our entire retirees and pensioners family to think over the issue and come forward to support so that an outfit is built under the leadership of someone like C N Prasad Ji to save our rights and ensure its implementation.
Regards

RAVINDRA KOHLI
PNBEVRS-2000

[Rajender Sharma]

Sir,

You are absolutely right..It is the need of the hour that retirees of all banks unit to take their

issues to the courts as any hope or chance of redress through BPS is over.It is our battle and nobody is

going to fight for us except ourselves..United we stand and divided we fall.

R.K.Sharma  

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