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Paul D'Souza

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Jul 4, 2009, 1:52:18 PM7/4/09
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Benji Boy!

I want to join in the discussion - but I'm not too keen on being
"BURNT AND FRIED IN BOILING OIL IN THE
HELLFIRE........".

On second thoughts - Christianity does not need 'hellfire' when
they've got you! Cheers mate!

Paul.




On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah<ta....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Benji you are the best man for the job
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> JESUS OF NAZARETH TAUGHT HIS DISCIPLES: DO NOT SIT IN JUDGEMENT. LOVE YOUR
>> ENEMY, EVEN IF HE OR SHE IS A DEVIL/Sangh PARIWAR, MUSLIM TERRORIST,
>> CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST/FANATIC
>>
>> JOHN DAYAL MUST GO HOME, DUST AND REDUST AND READ HIS GOOD OLD NEW
>> TESTAMENT AND PRAY EVERY DAY FOR HIS ENEMIES, INCLUDING P.N.BENJAMIN.
>> WITHOUT SITTING IN JUDGEMENT, I MUST SAY JOHN , AS FAR AS I CAN FATHOM HIS
>> KNOWLEDGE OF CHRISTIANITY THROUGH HIS WRITINGS, IS NOT A FOLLOWER OF THE
>> TEACHINGS OF JESUS.THEREFORE, DEAR JOHN, GO DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT
>> HERE AND NOW FOR YOUR SINS LEST YOU BE BURNT AND FRIED IN BOILING OIL IN THE
>> HELLFIRE........
>>
>> P.N.BENJAMIN
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:14:13 +0530
>> Subject: Re: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
>> From: john....@gmail.com
>> To: benja...@hotmail.com
>> CC: abraha...@hotmail.com; abra...@gmail.com; p_am...@hotmail.com;
>> ar...@sify.com; ashokm...@sichrem.org; bangalor...@googlegroups.com;
>> el...@bgeamail.org; bgk...@gmail.com; bhaskar...@gmail.com;
>> chanak...@gmail.com; charles...@hotmail.com;
>> ch...@karnatakanews.com; csf...@gmail.com; cyns...@yahoo.com;
>> davidpi...@yahoo.co.in; davidpit...@yahoo.com;
>> deepak...@mailcity.com; thoma...@gmail.com; e...@swissmail.org;
>> fhrs...@yahoogroups.com; xpe...@satyam.net.in; k...@gnanakan.com;
>> hedgewa...@rediffmail.com; hegd...@gmail.com; hegd...@yahoo.co.in;
>> he...@pwtn.org; edi...@hinduvoice.co.uk; htsan...@gmail.com;
>> kuruvill...@gmail.com; mat...@gmail.com; grimga...@email.com
>>
>> i am a sinner
>> the only sin i have not committed is in making a pact with the devil, and
>> his agents on earth who include the sangh parivar
>>
>> 2009/7/4 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>
>>
>> John Dayal is an "innocent" man. So, let him cast the first stone.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:53:51 +0530
>> Subject: Re: FW: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
>> From: john....@gmail.com
>> To: benja...@hotmail.com
>> CC: abraha...@hotmail.com; abra...@gmail.com; p_am...@hotmail.com;
>> ar...@sify.com; ashokm...@sichrem.org; bangalor...@googlegroups.com;
>> el...@bgeamail.org; bgk...@gmail.com; bhaskar...@gmail.com;
>> chanak...@gmail.com; charles...@hotmail.com;
>> ch...@karnatakanews.com; csf...@gmail.com; cyns...@yahoo.com;
>> davidpi...@yahoo.co.in; davidpit...@yahoo.com;
>> deepak...@mailcity.com; thoma...@gmail.com; e...@swissmail.org;
>> fhrs...@yahoogroups.com; xpe...@satyam.net.in; k...@gnanakan.com;
>> hedgewa...@rediffmail.com; hegd...@gmail.com; hegd...@yahoo.co.in;
>> he...@pwtn.org; edi...@hinduvoice.co.uk; htsan...@gmail.com;
>> kuruvill...@gmail.com; mat...@gmail.com; grimga...@email.com
>>
>> let the innocent cast the first stone
>>
>> 2009/7/4 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>
>>
>> The allegations are serious. If Selvakumar has given Rs. one crore to His
>> Holiness The PlayBoyThangiah, both of them need to be pulled up by the
>> government agencies. If  the Bunny Henn of Bangalore Thangiah has been
>> torturing his legally wedded wife the so-called Joyce Meyer of Bangalore, he
>> should be framed by the police and given the famous Hyderabd-golli
>> treatment. It is a fit case to be brought to the notice of the Women's
>> Commission. How many of you have the guts to expose the Miracle Man Thangiah
>> through sustained campaign?  When we have many Thangiahs and Selvakumars and
>> Shebas among the Christian community, why fear Bajarang Dal, VHP, Hindu Sene
>> etc? Fear them not. Fear not even a plain-speaking P.N.Benjamin who always
>> criticises the breast-beating-bible-thumbing-miracle healing Christians. But
>> fear the WRATH OF GOD.
>>
>> P.N. BENJAMIN
>>
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:59:35 +0530
>> Subject: Fwd: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
>> From: bgk...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: sam mathew <pastors...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
>> To: Dr Thomas Mathai <thoma...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Pastor Dr Thomas Mathai:
>>
>> Beloved in the Lord:
>>
>> Thanks for your kind mail which has been really prayerfully executed.
>>
>> I have now discovered that the eminent business and corporate leader Mr
>> Sam Selva Kumar has been humiliated and mentally tortured by Pastor Thankiah
>> who deserves to be punished by the entire Assemblies of god church for his
>> ego, pride and arrogance.  You know that Mr Selvakumar was his greatest
>> supporter for many years and gave almost Rs one crore to thankiah to build
>> his personal home and other secret causes.  One source told me that
>> Selvakumar has also sent money to build Thankiahs home in Australia where he
>> will eventually run away to.
>>
>> Two pastors of the AG have confirmed to me that Pastor Thankiah has been
>> cavorting both inside his Indiranagar office and in secret locations.  You
>> know the meaning of CAVORTING.
>>
>> I do not want to insult you by underestimating your intelligence.
>>
>> The Rev Dr Sheba Thankiah is aa victim of dowry harrassment and she has
>> been tortured with mental cruelty and assaults for every day of the 18 eyar
>> marriage.  Her family has said so.
>>
>> I have told some pastors to set up a PASTOR SHEBA DEFENSE FUND to protect
>> her rights and to seek the protection of the women's commission through
>> women's police stations etc.
>>
>> We urge her to file a case of torture and cruelty in the police dept.
>> against Pastor thankiah.
>>
>> She does not want to return to thankiah.  Several people are reconciling
>> including Pastor Paul dinakaran of Madras.  Pastor D. Mohan who is th
>> supreme AG boss has tried and failed to reconcile the couple. He was
>> insulted by thankiah.
>>
>> Thankiah is a greedy ambitious man who is illegally enrolling hundreds of
>> church groups by buying the poor pastors with Rs1000 or 2000 so that they
>> all vote for him and make him the Bangalore superintendent in the August
>> elections.
>>
>> Brother with tears in my eyes I have asked the Lord to reconvert thankiah
>> and bring him to the straight and narrow.  He has strayed.  I also would
>> like Pastor Sheba who is great woman preacher to reconcile if possible.
>>
>> But is she involved romanitcally with Mr Selva Kumar?  They deny it but
>> thankiah has told everyone in his church that they are.  Who to believe?
>>
>> I think Thankiah has made a mistake.  He thinks money can buy him
>> happiness. he can buy fancy suits, cars, homes, gadgets, food, beautiful
>> women --but he will be overwhelmed when he faces god who will spurn him if
>> he doesnot turn away from evil things now.
>>
>> Thankiah loves only rich men and women.  he pretends to love the poor.
>> but we know who these money bags are and what they will do to be treated
>> importantly in the church and strut their vainglorious wealth.
>>
>> We have also got the names of thankiahs girlfriends but we do not want to
>> reveal it for now.
>>
>> You are right Sheba is a woman pastor and some churches do NOT encourage
>> them to preach or be prominent.  Like the Catholics.  But the anglicans now
>> have women priests and bishops.
>>
>> What is good for the AG church for its top leaders to act swiftly and
>> cleanse the houses of God in Bangalore.
>>
>> A full investigation into the affair is called for Chief Justice PD
>> Dinakaran of Karnataka High Court or his nominee. Some prominent leaders
>> have taken him into confidence already.
>>
>> Money, sex and power form a devastating combination and leads to the
>> downfall of the most powerful leaders.  We must know our limits.
>>
>> Please pray for the AG church, its total Americanisation, its western
>> mannerisms, its rock music, its dancing girls, its emotional blackmail, its
>> pastors with feet of clay greedy for money, and its emphasis on public
>> subservience to pastor personalities like thankiah and not to God.
>>
>> This is idol worship at its worst, Sir!
>> Brother Sam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Dr Thomas Mathai <thoma...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> My dear and loving Bro Sam:
>>
>> I have received a copy of your letter which has gone to many undesired
>> elements.
>> Please bear in mind that in the beginning Lord Jesus has been using
>> servant of God Paul in a mighty manner but the money and wealth must have
>> brought this shame on him and his wife.
>>
>> Assemblies of God gave too much importance for ladies who are not supposed
>> to lead any church as per the Word of God. I am really praying with tears
>> for such spiritual leaders who started their lives through narrow path of
>> sufferings but ended in broad way leading to damnation. Please give me the
>> personal email of Pastor D Mohan from Chennai.
>>
>> I am 64 yrs old Pastor with AG in New Bombay. I came to this glorious
>> faith through a healing touch and sometimes I cry loudly seeing the
>> worldliness in our leading Pastors for their unto desire for money and
>> positions.
>>
>> Let us pray for them.
>>
>> I shall shortly send you my testimony.
>>
>> With prayers and love
>>
>> Pastor Thomas Mathai
>>
>> PS The copy of your letter has already reached in the hands of PN Benjamin
>> from Bangalore a known critic of Pentecostal people.
>>
>>
>> From: pastor sam mathew <pastors...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM
>> Subject: Pastor Paul Thankiah and Pastoramma Sheba Thankiah
>> To: indianchristians <indianch...@googlegroups.com>
>>
>> TIME BOMB WAITING TO EXPLODE-BANGALORE PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH INVOLVED
>> IN SEX & MONEY SCANDAL
>> Please pray for this couple who are about to divorce due to sex and
>> money scandals.  Pastor Paul has accused his wife SHEBA of having an
>> affair with a top company ceo who is a member of his church and also
>> with his assistant pastor.
>> Sheba has accused Paul of beating and torturing her.  She has been
>> supported in her claim by her family. She has left Paul and is staying
>> separately.
>> Sheba says her husband is jealous of her success as a preacher and her
>> popularity with people.
>> The company ceo claims that Paul has stolen huge amounts from the
>> church and its members. He also has stated that Paul has been
>> "womanising" over the last 18 years.
>> What is true?  What is false?
>> Pastor D. Paul who is the overall head of the Assemblies of God church
>> has failed to reconcile this couple.  He says Sheba is happier outside
>> the marriage and that Paul has insulted him by asking him not to
>> interfere. He has returned to his base in Chennai in disgust.
>> Many church leaders are worried this bomb will explode and damage the
>> church. They are trying to find a solution to the problem before it is
>> exploited by the Hindutva forces.
>> All this information is gathered from Thankiah's church members and
>> family.  Please confirm this yourself before using it as outside
>> elements could misuse the information.
>> Please pray for healing this rift and protect the body of Christ from
>> injury and damage.
>> Pastor Sam Mathew
>>
>>
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Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah

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Jul 4, 2009, 2:00:43 PM7/4/09
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Step1- to verify facts
Step2- to expose it - send it to the papers, blogs, churches 

Benjamin P N

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Jul 4, 2009, 8:07:14 PM7/4/09
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Dear Paul & Arul,
 
I long to be in that fire! Why? Haven't you been told /shown pictures by our Sunday school( beware, I am a Protestant!) teachers that thousands of  worms crawling comfortably through the fire in hell? That means that the atmosphere there is quite cosy-cosy and we can live there happily ever after, of course after a peg or two of the best whisky the Satan provides there!
 
Be that as it may, I am trying to get some solid proof. I have heard these facts from well known evangelical/pentecostal leaders/pastors/friends. I have also spoken to some of the Intelligence Bureau chaps too. Unfortunately, the newspapers do not touch it with a barge pole. They are afraid of hurting religious 'feelings'.
 
Cheers
 
PN
 
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