FW: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH

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Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:59:35 +0530
Subject: Fwd: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
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From: sam mathew <pastors...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
To: Dr Thomas Mathai <thoma...@gmail.com>


Pastor Dr Thomas Mathai:

Beloved in the Lord:

Thanks for your kind mail which has been really prayerfully executed.

I have now discovered that the eminent business and corporate leader Mr Sam Selva Kumar has been humiliated and mentally tortured by Pastor Thankiah who deserves to be punished by the entire Assemblies of god church for his ego, pride and arrogance.  You know that Mr Selvakumar was his greatest supporter for many years and gave almost Rs one crore to thankiah to build his personal home and other secret causes.  One source told me that Selvakumar has also sent money to build Thankiahs home in Australia where he will eventually run away to.

Two pastors of the AG have confirmed to me that Pastor Thankiah has been cavorting both inside his Indiranagar office and in secret locations.  You know the meaning of CAVORTING.

I do not want to insult you by underestimating your intelligence.

The Rev Dr Sheba Thankiah is aa victim of dowry harrassment and she has been tortured with mental cruelty and assaults for every day of the 18 eyar marriage.  Her family has said so. 

I have told some pastors to set up a PASTOR SHEBA DEFENSE FUND to protect her rights and to seek the protection of the women's commission through women's police stations etc. 

We urge her to file a case of torture and cruelty in the police dept. against Pastor thankiah.

She does not want to return to thankiah.  Several people are reconciling including Pastor Paul dinakaran of Madras.  Pastor D. Mohan who is th supreme AG boss has tried and failed to reconcile the couple. He was insulted by thankiah.

Thankiah is a greedy ambitious man who is illegally enrolling hundreds of church groups by buying the poor pastors with Rs1000 or 2000 so that they all vote for him and make him the Bangalore superintendent in the August elections.

Brother with tears in my eyes I have asked the Lord to reconvert thankiah and bring him to the straight and narrow.  He has strayed.  I also would like Pastor Sheba who is great woman preacher to reconcile if possible. 

But is she involved romanitcally with Mr Selva Kumar?  They deny it but thankiah has told everyone in his church that they are.  Who to believe?

I think Thankiah has made a mistake.  He thinks money can buy him happiness. he can buy fancy suits, cars, homes, gadgets, food, beautiful women --but he will be overwhelmed when he faces god who will spurn him if he doesnot turn away from evil things now.

Thankiah loves only rich men and women.  he pretends to love the poor.  but we know who these money bags are and what they will do to be treated importantly in the church and strut their vainglorious wealth.

We have also got the names of thankiahs girlfriends but we do not want to reveal it for now.

You are right Sheba is a woman pastor and some churches do NOT encourage them to preach or be prominent.  Like the Catholics.  But the anglicans now have women priests and bishops.

What is good for the AG church for its top leaders to act swiftly and cleanse the houses of God in Bangalore.

A full investigation into the affair is called for Chief Justice PD Dinakaran of Karnataka High Court or his nominee. Some prominent leaders have taken him into confidence already.

Money, sex and power form a devastating combination and leads to the downfall of the most powerful leaders.  We must know our limits.

Please pray for the AG church, its total Americanisation, its western mannerisms, its rock music, its dancing girls, its emotional blackmail, its pastors with feet of clay greedy for money, and its emphasis on public subservience to pastor personalities like thankiah and not to God.

This is idol worship at its worst, Sir!
Brother Sam





On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Dr Thomas Mathai <thoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
My dear and loving Bro Sam:
 
I have received a copy of your letter which has gone to many undesired elements.
Please bear in mind that in the beginning Lord Jesus has been using servant of God Paul in a mighty manner but the money and wealth must have brought this shame on him and his wife.
 
Assemblies of God gave too much importance for ladies who are not supposed to lead any church as per the Word of God. I am really praying with tears for such spiritual leaders who started their lives through narrow path of sufferings but ended in broad way leading to damnation. Please give me the personal email of Pastor D Mohan from Chennai.
 
I am 64 yrs old Pastor with AG in New Bombay. I came to this glorious faith through a healing touch and sometimes I cry loudly seeing the worldliness in our leading Pastors for their unto desire for money and positions.
 
Let us pray for them.
 
I shall shortly send you my testimony.
 
With prayers and love
 
Pastor Thomas Mathai
 
PS The copy of your letter has already reached in the hands of PN Benjamin from Bangalore a known critic of Pentecostal people.
 
 
From: pastor sam mathew <pastors...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Subject: Pastor Paul Thankiah and Pastoramma Sheba Thankiah
To: indianchristians <indianch...@googlegroups.com>
 
TIME BOMB WAITING TO EXPLODE-BANGALORE PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH INVOLVED
IN SEX & MONEY SCANDAL

Please pray for this couple who are about to divorce due to sex and
money scandals.  Pastor Paul has accused his wife SHEBA of having an
affair with a top company ceo who is a member of his church and also
with his assistant pastor.
Sheba has accused Paul of beating and torturing her.  She has been
supported in her claim by her family. She has left Paul and is staying
separately.
Sheba says her husband is jealous of her success as a preacher and her
popularity with people.
The company ceo claims that Paul has stolen huge amounts from the
church and its members. He also has stated that Paul has been
"womanising" over the last 18 years.
What is true?  What is false?
Pastor D. Paul who is the overall head of the Assemblies of God church
has failed to reconcile this couple.  He says Sheba is happier outside
the marriage and that Paul has insulted him by asking him not to
interfere. He has returned to his base in Chennai in disgust.
Many church leaders are worried this bomb will explode and damage the
church. They are trying to find a solution to the problem before it is
exploited by the Hindutva forces.
All this information is gathered from Thankiah's church members and
family.  Please confirm this yourself before using it as outside
elements could misuse the information.
Please pray for healing this rift and protect the body of Christ from
injury and damage.
Pastor Sam Mathew
 
 


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Thanks for sharing- any plan of action to expose him, you have my full support 

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The allegations are serious. If Selvakumar has given Rs. one crore to His Holiness The PlayBoyThangiah, both of them need to be pulled up by the government agencies. If  the Bunny Henn of Bangalore Thangiah has been torturing his legally wedded wife the so-called Joyce Meyer of Bangalore, he should be framed by the police and given the famous Hyderabd-golli treatment. It is a fit case to be brought to the notice of the Women's Commission. How many of you have the guts to expose the Miracle Man Thangiah through sustained campaign?  When we have many Thangiahs and Selvakumars and Shebas among the Christian community, why fear Bajarang Dal, VHP, Hindu Sene etc? Fear them not. Fear not even a plain-speaking P.N.Benjamin who always criticises the breast-beating-bible-thumbing-miracle healing Christians. But fear the WRATH OF GOD.
 
P.N. BENJAMIN

Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah

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i agree Ben... what is the plan of action
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My spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak and therefore unable to chalk out a plan of action.
 
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Benjamin P N

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Psalm 14 >>
New American Standard Bible ©
 


Folly and Wickedness of Men.

 A Psalm of David.

1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.”  They are corrupt, they have committed abominable deeds;  There is no one who does good.
2 The LORD has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men  To see if there are any who understand,  Who seek after God.
3 They have all turned aside, together they have become corrupt;  There is no one who does good, not even one.
4 Do all the workers of wickedness not know,  Who eat up my people as they eat bread,  And do not call upon the Lord?
5 There they are in great dread,  For God is with the righteous generation.
6 You would put to shame the counsel of the afflicted,  But the LORD is his refuge.
7 Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion!  When the LORD restores His captive people,  Jacob will rejoice, Israel will be glad.


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2009/7/4 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>
The allegations are serious. If Selvakumar has given Rs. one crore to His Holiness The PlayBoyThangiah, both of them need to be pulled up by the government agencies. If  the Bunny Henn of Bangalore Thangiah has been torturing his legally wedded wife the so-called Joyce Meyer of Bangalore, he should be framed by the police and given the famous Hyderabd-golli treatment. It is a fit case to be brought to the notice of the Women's Commission. How many of you have the guts to expose the Miracle Man Thangiah through sustained campaign?  When we have many Thangiahs and Selvakumars and Shebas among the Christian community, why fear Bajarang Dal, VHP, Hindu Sene etc? Fear them not. Fear not even a plain-speaking P.N.Benjamin who always criticises the breast-beating-bible-thumbing-miracle healing Christians. But fear the WRATH OF GOD.

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JESUS OF NAZARETH TAUGHT HIS DISCIPLES: DO NOT SIT IN JUDGEMENT. LOVE YOUR ENEMY, EVEN IF HE OR SHE IS A DEVIL/Sangh PARIWAR, MUSLIM TERRORIST, CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST/FANATIC
 
JOHN DAYAL MUST GO HOME, DUST AND REDUST AND READ HIS GOOD OLD NEW TESTAMENT AND PRAY EVERY DAY FOR HIS ENEMIES, INCLUDING P.N.BENJAMIN. WITHOUT SITTING IN JUDGEMENT, I MUST SAY JOHN , AS FAR AS I CAN FATHOM HIS KNOWLEDGE OF CHRISTIANITY THROUGH HIS WRITINGS, IS NOT A FOLLOWER OF THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS.THEREFORE, DEAR JOHN, GO DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND REPENT HERE AND NOW FOR YOUR SINS LEST YOU BE BURNT AND FRIED IN BOILING OIL IN THE HELLFIRE........
 
P.N.BENJAMIN
 

Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 18:14:13 +0530

Subject: Re: YOUR LETTER ABOUT PASTOR PAUL THANKIAH
i am a sinner
the only sin i have not committed is in making a pact with the devil, and his agents on earth who include the sangh parivar

Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah

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Benji you are the best man for the job

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The self-styled Christian leaders like John Dayal, Sajan George, Richard Howell  and others who fanned the flames of hatred during those days (and 'would have capitalised on the riots'), will they  now apologise? Remember, I had asked John Dayal to walk with me i through the streets of Kandamal on a mission of peace?
 
P.N.BENJAMIN
 
Here's the interim report
 
KANDHAMAL REPORT

'Conversion, Reconversion Led to Kandhamal Riots'
 
Justice Mohapatra, who submitted the interim report on July 1, said the government should take steps immediately to remove differences between the communities.
Conversion and re-conversion were among the major factors which led to the riots in Orissa's Kandhamal district last year, a judicial commission probing the violence has said.

"Sources of the violence were deeply rooted in land disputes, conversion and re-conversion and fake certificate issues," Justice S C Mohapatra, heading the one-man panel, said in his interim report on the violence in Kandhamal which claimed 43 lives besides damaging many houses and churches.

He, however, did not elaborate on the conversions and reconversions issue.

"Suspicion among the scheduled tribe and scheduled caste inhabitants of Kandhamal is the main cause of riots with the tribals suspecting that 'Pano' dalits were capturing their land through fraudulent means," Justice Mohapatra said.

Besides the issues of land and conversion and re-conversion, Justice Mohapatra said fake certificates were another major factor that created discontent among Kandha tribals who constitute 52 per cent of Kandhamal's population.

Justice Mohapatra, who submitted the interim report on July 1, said the government should take steps immediately to remove differences between the communities.

"I know it will take at least two years to complete inquiry, but interim report will help the government to make immediate intervention," he said.

Justice Mohapatra said in his 28-page report that most Kandha tribals were uneducated and were under the impression that quotas meant for them were being availed of by 'Pana' dalits, who were Christians.

This was another factor behind tribal anger, he said suggesting the state government expedite freeing of tribal land in possession of non-tribals, take up fake certificate cases and remain vigilant to conversion and re-conversion.

"Once the basic issues are addressed, the Kandhamal problem could be solved," he said.

Replying to a question, Justice Mohapatra said he had not blamed anybody for the violence in the interim report.

Sources, however, said the commission which was set up on September 3 last year could fix responsibility for the violence on any organisation or government body.

In the interim report, Justice Mohapatra had not blamed any religious body or the CPI (Maoist) which claimed responsibility for killing of VHP leader Laxmananda Saraswati on August 23 last year.

Killing of Saraswati and four of his associates had triggered large-scale violence in Kandhamal which evoked condemnation from many quarters in the country and abroad.


 
 
 

 

Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:28:55 +0530
well spoken, though wise and virtuous benjamin
god bless you


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First thing should have been your walk with me singing that weird hymn 'Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war' when killings were taking place in Kandhamal. You refused to join in those days. You didn't have the guts to accept my chal;lenge then. Why talk about a peace mission to kandamal now, dear John, dear John? will it bring me some MONEY, that's my ONLY interest ? If u can guarantee solid MONEY to me, I'll join you. I must take care of my medical and other needs. Why should I be always the sacrificial goat?
 
pnb
 

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:25:02 +0530
Subject: Re: Kandhamal Report.
first things first, my friend

2009/7/5 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>

insidious silence about thangiah-sheba scandal!!!!!!
 

Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah

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Dear PNB

Please stop telling other what they should do or should not do- Whistle, blow thy self (dont keep asking other to blow you)

Warm Regards,

Arul

Benjamin P N

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thank you for the 'advice'
 

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 22:53:41 +0530
Subject: Re: Kandhamal Report.
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Arul (Ta'fxkz) Baliah

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I will give you more if you don't use this ('advice') properly

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baseless allegation, dear john. i have not yet paid my this month's house rent. will you be able to find some good christian souls help me out.In one of my previous mails, long ago, i had given a break-up figure of my income. do yownt it to be reproduced?
 
P.N.BENJAMIN
 

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:28:46 +0530
dear pnb, you have no shortage of funds


2009/7/5 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>
First thing should have been your walk with me singing that weird hymn 'Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war' when killings were taking place in Kandhamal. You refused to join in those days. You didn't have the guts to accept my chal;lenge then. Why talk about a peace mission to kandamal now, dear John, dear John? will it bring me some MONEY, that's my ONLY interest ? If u can guarantee solid MONEY to me, I'll join you. I must take care of my medical and other needs. Why should I be always the sacrificial goat?
 
pnb
 

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:25:02 +0530
Subject: Re: Kandhamal Report.
first things first, my friend

2009/7/5 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>

insidious silence about thangiah-sheba scandal!!!!!!
 


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i am its executive trustee and coordinator. our trust consists of only of three poor christians - Emerson Samuel,P.N.Benjamin and Georgy George. two csi members and a catholic - and 15 well-known people as patrons. they dont pay any donations. 
 
why dont you answer my pointed questions, dear john in christ and end your diversionary tactics?
 
P.N.BENJAMIN
 

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:33:48 +0530
ask the BIRD leadereship

2009/7/6 Benjamin P N <benja...@hotmail.com>

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A trip to Kandamal? For what now? You're back to your old tricks, shying away from real issues. Give me a detailed response to the Kandamal report first. Then other subjects.
 

Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:44:57 +0530
please send me the coordinates of your members and trustees
i will request them to finance your kandhamal trip
god bless them all
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