T-shirt

[Pradip Caulagi]

I couldn't follow up earlier on this as I was busy. Also, since there
were several people interested, I am moving this discussion back to
the list.

Can you please cast your votes here - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YTSHD3B.

Last date for your vote is 20th October, 10PM IST.

[Roshan Dawrani]

Thanks for collecting the info and taking it forward.

Should the size of the t-shirt also have been in the survey? Or that will come later?

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[Pradip Caulagi]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Roshan Dawrani
<roshan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Should the size of the t-shirt also have been in the survey? Or that will
> come later?

We don't need the size at this point. We just need to decide on the
design. I had to create a survey because there was no clear
consensus. We will probably need to have another round to decide on
the one-liner and logo.

[Pradip Caulagi]

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Pradip Caulagi <cau...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> Can you please cast your votes here - http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YTSHD3B.
>
> Last date for your vote is 20th October, 10PM IST.
>

Survey results.

10 people voted.

What is the t-shirt type - 7 round, 3 collared
What is the color of the tee? 2 white, 2 black, 3 dark red, 3 grey
What is the color of the text? - 7 white, 2 black, 1 green
What should be in front? - 6 one liner, 4 logo
What is the one liner you want? Go functional has been mentioned 3
times, others are all different.

So it is a dark red t-shirt with white text, one liner at front.

What logo do we want at the back? I vote for the image on the cover
of SICP - http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/cover.jpg. The
book is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0
Unported License. So I think we are allowed to use it on t-shirts.

[Shantanu Kumar]

On Oct 21, 10:56 pm, Pradip Caulagi <caul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Pradip Caulagi <caul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you please cast your votes here -http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/YTSHD3B.

>
> > Last date for your vote is 20th October, 10PM IST.
>
> Survey results.
>
> 10 people voted.
>
> What is the t-shirt type - 7 round, 3 collared
> What is the color of the tee? 2 white, 2 black, 3 dark red, 3 grey
> What is the color of the text? - 7 white, 2 black, 1 green
> What should be in front? - 6 one liner, 4 logo
> What is the one liner you want?  Go functional has been mentioned 3
> times, others are all different.
>
> So it is a dark red t-shirt with white text, one liner at front.
>
> What logo do we want at the back?  I vote for the image on the cover

> of SICP -http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/cover.jpg.  The

> book is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0
> Unported License.  So I think we are allowed to use it on t-shirts.

Cool. I hope you meant just the Lambda image. :)

Regards,
Shantanu
@kumarshantanu

[Thomas Elam]

How about eval-apply in a Tao circle? Abelson and Sussman use this on the cover of SICP. (Incidentally, SICP is a great book for any functional programmer to read who wants to really get into FP.)

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[Thomas Elam]

On the other side of the shirt, we could use a lambda.

Regards,
Tom

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[Vatsal]

I would second Lambda on the other side of the tee.....

- Vatsal

[Noufal Ibrahim]

On Fri, Oct 22 2010, Thomas Elam wrote:

> On the other side of the shirt, we could use a

> lambda<http://images.google.com/images?q=lambda>

The schemers.org lambda looks quite
nice. http://www.schemers.org/logo-dsandler.gif

I have a shirt with this drawn on it. If the print quality is good, it
looks very pretty.

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[Thomas Elam]

Personally, I'd go for something more generic -- or, how about this?, a bunch of fp, lisp, and lambda logos?

I've tracked down a bunch:

http://www.lisperati.com/logo.html

http://www.normal-null.de/lisp_logo.php

http://xahlee.org/emacs/lisp_logo.html  (I don't see this one as a real hacker logo)

http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/07/11/schemelisp-one-of-montreals-tech-expertise/

http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell_logos
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/03/-big/python-logo-master-v3-TM.png.html

http://xahlee.org/emacs/qi_logo.html (Qi is an extremely awesome language, btw)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlang_(programming_language)

http://www.perl.org/

http://caml.inria.fr/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_(programming_language)

http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/fsharp-041310.aspx (scroll down to see the infinity logo)

http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APL_(programming_language) (couldn't find a logo, but very important language)

http://enderstruth.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/classapi-next-up/ (surprisingly, JavaScript doesn't have its own logo!)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J_(programming_language)

How about lambda + the Tao circle on one side and a whole bunch of logos on the other side?

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[Thomas Elam]

Forgot Dylan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dylan_programming_language

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Tom

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[Roshan Dawrani]

Hi there....

Happy new year to you all, first of all...

Did the "bangalore-fp-T-shirt" thing go forward any further? Did I miss it?

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[Pradip Caulagi]

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Roshan Dawrani <roshan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Did the "bangalore-fp-T-shirt" thing go forward any further? Did I miss it?

We lost track a bit. We need to decide on the logo. I will try to
collect some options and send them later today/tomorrow, but if
anybody wants to take a stab, that is welcome too.

[Thomas Elam]

Pradip,

The most famous functional programming icon is probably the eval/apply inside a Taoist symbol.  A crude rendering also appears on the cover of Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs.  I'll cast my vote for this, but I'd seek a better image of the symbol.  Shouldn't be hard to create one in some structured drawing programme.

Regards,

Tom

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[abhinav sarkar]

Hi,

I think that eval-apply is more directed toward dynamic languages like lisp. lambda symbol is more suitable as the logo for functional programming. It appears on the logos of Clojure (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Clojure-glyph.svg) and Haskell (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Haskell-Logo.svg). The images linked are high res and can be used for printing.

Regards,

Abhinav Sarkar

[Pradip Caulagi]

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Thomas Elam <tom...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The most famous functional programming icon is probably the eval/apply
> inside a Taoist symbol.  A crude rendering also appears on the cover of
> Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs.  I'll cast my vote for
> this, but I'd seek a better image of the symbol.  Shouldn't be hard to
> create one in some structured drawing programme.

Hey Tom,

I think the consensus/majority is to have a lambda logo. I just
realised that my photo editing skills are not good enough. I like the
suggestion by Noufal for this -

http://www.schemers.org/logo-dsandler.gif

I will get this done by some photoshop guy, unless someone on the list
can do this. We need the logo in white.

[Thomas Elam]

Abhinav,

I am not sure about what you're saying, 'eval-apply is more directed toward dynamic languages like lisp'.  (By the way, most languages that support functional programming are dynamic, I think we'd agree.)  Maybe someone who has some time could explain what 'lambda language' means and why it is so significant.  I think eval & apply are among the most central concepts in all lambda languages.  I might be wrong.

Googling Wikipedia for 'lambda language' turns up a page on lambda calculus where it says the Python code

func = lambda x: x ** 2

creates a new anonymous function and names it func.  So the expression to the right of the assignment operator gets evaluated to produce a lambda, but the lambda hasn't been applied at this point.

Would anyone like to explain why eval & apply are featured prominently on the front of Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs?  I don't really understand.  I think it has to do with eval and apply being complimentary in a never-ending cycle of evaluation and application.

Regards.

Tom