Can we use gas station pumps to pump air into a road bike?

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yashu

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Oct 25, 2010, 3:12:58 AM10/25/10
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I have btwin cycle pump but when i use it ot pump air into my road
bike i do not see any effect. Is it possible to use a gas station pump
to pump air into a road bike?

Sudhir P

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Oct 25, 2010, 3:27:30 AM10/25/10
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You need to get a schrader to presta valve adapter.... And u'll need that even in gas station pumps.....

But, i guess ur pump should have a tip that can be flipped between schrader and presta.... In case u dont, u can get a cheap inefficient adapter at some bike stores for 10-20 bucks, or a nicer airtight one from decathlon, sold as part of a universal valve hose

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Joseph

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Oct 25, 2010, 9:22:06 AM10/25/10
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I don't think petrol bunk pumps can fill in pressures over 100 psi
required by road bikes

On Oct 25, 12:27 pm, Sudhir P <sudhirpalli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You need to get a schrader to presta valve adapter.... And u'll need that
> even in gas station pumps.....
>
> But, i guess ur pump should have a tip that can be flipped between schrader
> and presta.... In case u dont, u can get a cheap inefficient adapter at some
> bike stores for 10-20 bucks, or a nicer airtight one from decathlon, sold as
> part of a universal valve hose
>
> -sud
>
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM, yashu <yashu8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have btwin cycle pump but when i use it ot pump air into my road
> > bike i do not see any effect. Is it possible to use a gas station pump
> > to pump air into a road bike?
>
> > --
> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

Nikhilesh Grover

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Oct 25, 2010, 10:09:12 AM10/25/10
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Petrol bunks air pumps can go up to a max of 50 psi. The road side "pancher shop" have air compressors which can fill air up to high pressures. The caveat is that there is a high chance of the tube going pop since the amount of pressure generated from the compressors is huge.

Thanks,

Nikhilesh



Rohan Kini

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Oct 25, 2010, 10:31:46 AM10/25/10
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I would recommend not using the petrol station pump for your MTBs too.
These are built for tires with bigger volume, and I know a couple of folks who have blown up tubes while filling in at pumps.

Keep a pump at home - very useful when you want to check your tire pressure at 5:50am just before heading out for a Nandi ride :)

Shankar Shastry

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Oct 25, 2010, 2:35:39 PM10/25/10
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I would recommend not using the petrol station pump for your MTBs too.
These are built for tires with bigger volume, and I know a couple of folks who have blown up tubes while filling in at pumps.

- But isnt 60psi 60psi irrespective of whether it comes from topeak roadmorph G or the petrol bunk?

Shankar Shastry

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Oct 25, 2010, 2:36:28 PM10/25/10
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Not true. I have made one petrol bunk fill in air at 60psi!

Rohan Kini

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Oct 25, 2010, 2:37:00 PM10/25/10
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Try watering a dainty flower using a small garden pipe and a fire extinguisher  :)

Shankar

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Oct 25, 2010, 2:52:16 PM10/25/10
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Oh, I see your point now. Its just absurd. I still don't see how its harmful!! I surely don't want the bicycle tires to blow up in a highway petrol bunk though :) i'l just tune it down to 50 when in a petrol bunk then..

And for lazy, slow riders like me, wasting energy before a ride pumping air is a big turnoff.. Rather visit a petrol bunk the previous evening!

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Shankar
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somshekar kadam

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Oct 26, 2010, 12:14:27 AM10/26/10
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Hi Team,

Today morning at 7 am I got a call from Youngster Praveen, that his bycycle and his dad thats Guna got stolen yesterday from Rajajinagar.

recently I just read in mailing list someone else bycycle got stolen. Gunas was in hurry to go to office, he will file a compliant, I think its small time thief, hope Guna gets back his bycycle.


regards
Neelu



George Joseph

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Oct 26, 2010, 1:37:57 AM10/26/10
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Hearing about losing a bike is like hearing someone in your family got seriously ill ... or worse. 

I hope Praveen gets a new bike soon. 

George Joseph
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Shobhit Bhatnagar

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:27:18 AM10/26/10
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I have always used compressor air to inflate my tyres, for some reason, the tyre pressure lasts longer when you use a compressor rather than the hand pump.

We can argue on the hydraulics of how compressor air is different from a foot pump air, but in essence, it can be used, the catch is that while using a compressor, the tyre pressure climbs very quickly, so you will have to be cautious, the attendants are used to bigger tyre and they might end up over inflating the tyre before they even start checking the pressure.

-Shobhit

Shankar

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Oct 26, 2010, 2:30:51 AM10/26/10
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Oh. I meant using a big compressor to pump air into bicycle tires is absurd. Not that ur point is absurd. No offense meant :)

I've got to stop sending emails at midnight lol

Sathya

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:06:21 AM10/26/10
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All petrol bunks can easily fill up to 100 psi and the valve sizes are
the same for a motor cycle or a bicycle. Quite to the reverse I've
used a bicycle pump during my motorbike trip to ladakh (a life saver
after getting a puncture on top of khardung la) and I've used a petrol
bunk's pump for a single day's bangalore-mysore-bangalore cycle ride.
The standard valve size is what matters - unless you're filling
nitrogen in your tyres!

I'd like to know if anyone has an idea on nitrogen instead of normal
air (HP on airport road offers it). I've tried it once on motorbike
and car and it definitely lasted longer, wonder if its true for a
cycle which doesn't heat up as much. The guy at the bunk also gave his
piece of advice that nitrogen was dry and better for the tube than
humid air. Wonder how much of it is just hot air!
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:05 AM, Shankar Shastry <shanka...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I would recommend not using the petrol station pump for your MTBs too.
> > These are built for tires with bigger volume, and I know a couple of folks
> > who have blown up tubes while filling in at pumps.
>
> > - But isnt 60psi 60psi irrespective of whether it comes from topeak
> > roadmorph G or the petrol bunk?
>
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Rohan Kini <rohan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I would recommend not using the petrol station pump for your MTBs too.
> >> These are built for tires with bigger volume, and I know a couple of folks
> >> who have blown up tubes while filling in at pumps.
>
> >> Keep a pump at home - very useful when you want to check your tire
> >> pressure at 5:50am just before heading out for a Nandi ride :)
>
> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM, yashu <yashu8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I have btwin cycle pump but when i use it ot pump air into my road
> >>> bike i do not see any effect. Is it possible to use a gas station pump
> >>> to pump air into a road bike?
>
> >>> --
> >>> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

Sudhir P

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:26:46 AM10/26/10
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Roadbike valves are different (Presta).... MTB tyre valves are the same as automobile valves(Schrader)

I've heard of CO2 canisters being used for cycles.... Is there anything more to it than just convenience?

-sud




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Muggy

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:33:35 AM10/26/10
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I've heard that CO2 does not last as long as air i.e. you need to end
up refilling more often. if that's true then I guess convenience is
the only thing in its favor

- Muggy
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Apurv Manjrekar

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:39:18 AM10/26/10
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Any one tried Nitrogen. Works like a charm for *cars* and *bikes*. Apparently since the size of the molecules is big, the leakage is minimal. Also does not get heated as rapidly as air. Also since its innately inert, does not oxidize the rubber, preventing corrossion.

Deepa Mohan

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:42:19 AM10/26/10
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Where and how could one fill up nitrogen? Would it be easy?

Apurv Manjrekar

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:47:19 AM10/26/10
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I know places for cars and bikes where one could get them. But as per another thread, using a compressor made for car/bike may not be suitable for bikes. Small nitrogen cylinders are available. If this could be fit to a cycle compressor, it should work. Its a DIY. Nitrogen works wonders for cars. (The tyre chaps sell it for a premium/bomb, hence hasnt picked up that much).

Rohan Kini

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:49:09 AM10/26/10
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How about Hydrogen Sulfide ? Will be easy to find a puncture :) 


On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Apurv Manjrekar <apurv.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
I know places for cars and bikes where one could get them. But as per another thread, using a compressor made for car/bike may not be suitable for bikes. Small nitrogen cylinders are available. If this could be fit to a cycle compressor, it should work. Its a DIY. Nitrogen works wonders for cars. (The tyre chaps sell it for a premium/bomb, hence hasnt picked up that much).

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Sudhir P

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Oct 26, 2010, 6:52:27 AM10/26/10
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Rohan Kini <rohan...@gmail.com> wrote:
How about Hydrogen Sulfide ? Will be easy to find a puncture :) 

ROFLMAO! And also incentive to ride ultra carefully, take good care of the tyre etc, to never get a flat

manjula...@gmail.com

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Oct 26, 2010, 7:15:06 AM10/26/10
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Lol, or nitrous oxide, so one can laugh about their bad luck !(especially in a race !) - manjula

Please excuse the curt mail and typos as I am sending from my Blackberry !


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Subject: Re: [BBC] Re: Can we use gas station pumps to pump air into a road bike?

Chidambaran Subramanian

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Oct 26, 2010, 7:20:20 AM10/26/10
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And once you do, keep wondering whether its a flat or a f**t.
Or, make it difficult to distinguish between wind-breaking and tube-breaking.

Chiddu

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Nadana Sigamani

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Oct 26, 2010, 12:01:11 PM10/26/10
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Hi Praveen,

Sorry about your and your dad's bike. I remember you rode very well with it on our Muthathi return trip. Hope you get it back soon.

Siga

TOMCAT

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Oct 27, 2010, 7:41:16 AM10/27/10
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Rohan,

I like the posts you made in this thread! Neat and to the point :-)

To the rest of you, use the hand pump dedicated for the bikes. Nothing
works better than that. Lets wait for technology to catch-up so that
we can fill other gases in. For now Bangalore's own air works as good
as ever!


On Oct 26, 6:49 am, Rohan Kini <rohan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about Hydrogen Sulfide ? Will be easy to find a puncture :)
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Apurv Manjrekar
> <apurv.manjre...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> >  I know places for cars and bikes where one could get them. But as per
> > another thread, using a compressor made for car/bike may not be suitable for
> > bikes. Small nitrogen cylinders are available. If this could be fit to a
> > cycle compressor, it should work. Its a DIY. Nitrogen works wonders for
> > cars. (The tyre chaps sell it for a premium/bomb, hence hasnt picked up that
> > much).
>
> > On 10/26/2010 4:12 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote:
> > --
> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details- Hide quoted text -

Sathya

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Oct 27, 2010, 8:39:25 AM10/27/10
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Considering I've actually smelled all round a tube for strong rubber
smell to identify multiple punctures I'd prefer a gas that's more
aromatic (not in the chemical sense!). If we had hydrogen sulpide I'd
rather carry a spare wheel instead of a tool kit!

On Oct 26, 3:49 pm, Rohan Kini <rohan.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about Hydrogen Sulfide ? Will be easy to find a puncture :)
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Apurv Manjrekar
> <apurv.manjre...@gmail.com>wrote:

M B Anirudh

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Oct 27, 2010, 9:33:59 PM10/27/10
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nitrogen is bunkum,,,,,,,,read below.............

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