How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
Yogesh N. Rao
I am looking for ideas here. I had an extremely close call in the Windsor manor under-pass early this morning . I was doing around 45kmph as I pedaled madly down the underpass. There was a son-of-a-b!@# motor-cyclist in front of me on the right side. He suddenly started slowing down. I was almost on his left side with him about 2 feet ahead of me. I had no idea why he was slowing down. He suddenly started moving to his left side towards the foot-path (in the process cutting me off). I have no idea why this dumb-assh@le is moving to his left. I have no space at this point to move right and go around him. It is too short a notice to brake very hard. So, I braked and almost ran my cycle into the foot path. Luckily, I managed to scrape through a tiny bit of gap between him and the foot-path and did not meet with an accident. Why someone would stop in an under-pass is beyond me.
I promptly stopped my cycle and took four steps back. I then let my kannada expletives fly. I called his mother and father bad names (especially the former). I told him I was going to repair his eye-ball-socket (seriously guys, I had my tire pump in my hand and was ready to pull his eye-balls out). All this while, there was this poor frightened motor-cyclist who repeatedly apologizing and probably cursing his bad judgment with stopping too short without checking his rear view mirror.
I have had so many run-ins with motor-bikers that I think 75% of them don't have an oz of brain. Most of them don't get license legally. They pay money to touts and just buy their license. I saw three morons on airport road doing wheelies on my way back from nandi. I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I guess I wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to crack and break open on Bellary road.
Guys, two things come out. First, I need a class in anger management. Seriously, my behavior this morning was terrible. I will NEVER repeat it again. All through my Nandi ride, I was thinking, what if that motor-cyclist in the under-pass was a rowdy. He could have repaired my head with his spark-plug-spanner in an instant.
Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud enough to make motor-bikers crap in their pants if they are in front of me to warn them. I also want to use such a horn to scare motor-bikers who scare me by coming too close and suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a horn that's small and can scream?
Thanks,
Yoegsh.
Pramod Bhardwaj
@115db this is at-least as powerful as the car horns. And damn it cost
just 12$. In case you are picking one, just get me one please. :)
~Pramod
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Yogesh N. Rao
But before I do that. Do we have BOTS, Wheelsports, or someone else selling it locally already?
Chidambaran Subramanian
deepakvrao
On Feb 14, 9:26 pm, Chidambaran Subramanian <chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Shout man, preferably in a high octave Normally my vocalizations are enough
> to catch the attention of motorcyclists and/or dogs.
>
> Chiddu
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Done. Will get 2.
>
> > But before I do that. Do we have BOTS, Wheelsports, or someone else selling
> > it locally already?
>
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Pramod Bhardwaj <pramodbhard...@gmail.com
> >> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
Vikram
I fully empathize with you on the letting oneself loose on those
jokers on motorbikes...I can recite a dozen stories at any given
time! :-)
On your speed bit, like in driving cars & motorbikes, do you think it
makes more sense for us cyclists to stick to speeds that we can
control for a given set of road conditions?
When I have driven my different cars over the years, I have always
developed a sense for the max. speed at which I could really control
the thing in case of any emergency, esp. on highways. I would venture
beyond that speed only on a road like NICE.
Similarly, shouldn't we be looking at a max. speed for our cycles too?
It would vary, of course, based on what kind of disturbances we are
anticipating on a particular road at a given time, but I think that's
a sense that one would get to fairly quickly?
Now, back to the cussing...where were we.. :-)
Thanks,
_Vikram
On Feb 14, 9:13 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Done. Will get 2.
>
> But before I do that. Do we have BOTS, Wheelsports, or someone else selling
> it locally already?
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Pramod Bhardwaj
> <pramodbhard...@gmail.com>wrote:
Yogesh N. Rao
Yogesh N. Rao
biggfoot
way to work today morning involving a cyclist and a mobike. Luckily
the cyclist escaped unhurt and unluckily the mobiker (pakka idiot was
driving like a maniac as if it was his baap ka road) escaped unhurt
too ...
Driving discipline is a necessity but so many people think of it as a
favor that they need to do to others.
Hey Yogesh, glad you escaped unhurt man! But you seriously should've
re-arranged his facial geometry.
- Sagar
On Feb 14, 9:45 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vikram, the under-pass was empty. Only two riders - a bicycle and a
> motorbiker (could also read it as Dumb and Dumber).
>
> > > > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details
Yogesh N. Rao
Vikram Nats
Vikram
Pankaj C
Last Sunday when I was riding between Attibele and Anekal, two guys in
a car swayed in on my right when there was enough space to ride
straight on the road.
There intention was very obvious. Maybe that is their idea of getting
a kick in their otherwise wasteful life :(
But I guess stooping down to the same level is not the answer but to
stand by your lane.
For me, this is the third instance of intentional scare meted out by
these kind of idiots.
For now I will ignore them and stick to my lane.
Cheers
Pankaj
On Feb 15, 3:27 pm, Vikram Nats <vickram.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Yogesh,
> Your lucky you had a problem with bikers only.
> I have been thrown off the road so often by cars,trucks and mini trucks etc.
> Riding a road bike doing thirty plus its a scary though of what might
> happen.
> You could at least vent your anger at the biker.
> By the time I turn around these car fellows are long gone.
>
> Vikram
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks Sagar. I could certainly have re-arranged his face. But then, I am
> > trying to give up my anger as I inch closer to 40. I am in the process of
> > trying to accept life for what it is. I am failing miserably so far. Hum
> > honge kamyaab ek din!
>
> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details- Hide quoted text -
>
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Rashmin Perla
Guess there is no need for anger management...Its never going to work
with idiots like the one you met.
You know one other type of biker/ motor vehicle is the type that
deliberately tries to squeeze you simply because he thinks you are
going faster than him / her !!!
Regarding the bikers doing wheelies... just hope you have the nearest
hospital number so that these organ donors can be of some use once
they croak.
Rashmin Perla
On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yogesh N. Rao
Rashmin, I totally agree. Some motor-bikers treat an overtaking bicyclist with a surprising level of contempt. I am trying to give up my anger because in a country like India, anger only causes issues with your blood pressure. Positive change comes in frustratingly small doses. Gotta keep the faith (esp. in god, as he's the only one who can save this country).
Pankaj and Vikram, You guys need more than a loud horn. You need a 440v cattle prod that you can use for giving enema treatment to those b!@#ds....ok, there goes my temper, yet again.
Guys, any creative solutions? How do we deal with this menace? (i.e. I am thinking +ve things and not cattle prods) Incidentally, we bicyclists are not the only ones who suffer the menace. Pedestrians, especially senior citizens and children are also harassed by motor-vehicle riders who have no traffic sense.
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> Guys, any creative solutions? How do we deal with this menace? (i.e. I am
> thinking +ve things and not cattle prods) Incidentally, we bicyclists are
> not the only ones who suffer the menace. Pedestrians, especially senior
> citizens and children are also harassed by motor-vehicle riders who have no
> traffic sense.
Don't get me wrong here, but I feel this quite strongly. As long as
the people who bike by choice, do not join issues with all the people
who bike because of lack of choice, it is unlikely that any major
change will happen on Indian roads that benefit cyclists.
Any campaign to encourage users of motorized drivers to give more
space and respect to bikers, need to involve the silent majority of
bikers. There are too many challenges in this itself, as this majority
in unlikely to be aware of their own rights and would rather spend
their efforts in tackling bigger issues in their life. But we bikers
on our own might be too less to make an impact in most situations.
Besides this (or most probably related), a class conflict issue on
roads is probably another reason behind this menace.
- Sandip
Yogesh N. Rao
Forget influencing others to behave. It will either take too long or will not happen at all.
I need something simple and creative that I can do NOW. Getting a horn is something I can do now to prevent an accident. What else can *I* do?
Karthik
Karthik
Oops sorry Sandip....Shud've posted to Yogesh........didnt check it.
Karthik
On 15 February 2010 23:20, Karthik <kart...@gmail.com> wrote:
"I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I guess I wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to crack and break open on Bellary road."
You wasted your time.There was nothing inside to spill :D
Karthik
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Yogesh N. Rao
Problem with the police-type whistle is that our motor-bikers do not respect the police. In fact, I witnessed a strange incident on last Saturday. There was a guy doing wheelie in front of MegaMart near Deve Gowda Petrol Bunk. Cops were checking licenses and helmets near that junction. So, this guy did a wheelie right in front of them. All that the police guys could do was look at the wheelie and get back to their business of checking licenses again. This is the state of our Mera Bharath Mahaan, a common family-man is harassed for not having a copy of RC Book with him while an Idiot-Motor-Biker blatantly violates the law in front of the very people who are supposed to guard it. Welcome to the Wild West! We are just one step away from the fictional Ramgarh of Sholay....only difference, we have 1000s of Gabbars running around.
Debamitro Chakraborti
Yogesh N. Rao
I recommend we prefix the word, Motor-Cyclists with the word "Idiot-" from now. That's what most of them are, Idiots! We can in fact put a banner outside all the Motor-Cycle shops in Bangalore which reads: "Welcome Idiots! Thank you for not riding the bus you lazy bums".
Shashijeevan M.P.
Please control your feelings.
I use motorcycle daily (10 years on Bangalore roads) and never had any incidents till now. It is not just what you ride but how ride it is also very important.
From your description of the problem you were overspeeding unnecessarily. You are as much a culprit as the guy who changed direction suddenly.
Please drive defensively inside city limits. If you want to try and check speed limits please go outside the city.
That will avoid all the problems.
I hate to prefix motor cyclists with any bad words. I love motor cycles as much as bicycles.
Cheers,
Jeevan
^^^ It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult. ^^^
From: Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>
To: Debamitro Chakraborti <deba...@gmail.com>
Cc: BBC <Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 12:21:26 PM
Subject: Re: [BBC] Re: How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
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Pradeep Murthy
with an inexperienced and careless motorcyclist doesnt make all
motorcyclists 'idiots'. If we were to apply the same yardstick there are
many cyclists who cycle in the middle of the road, dont bother to look
around before swerving, barge into junctions and traffic lights with no
regard for other road-users - does that make all cyclists 'idiots'?
I agree that general road awareness and traffic sense in Bangalore (and
pretty much throughout India) is appalling - but we create the world we
live in.
Pradeep
Vivek Radhakrishnan
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Yogesh N. Rao
I said "MOST" in my earlier email. I know many of our bicyclists are motorcyclists as well. I was hoping all our bicylists cum motorcyclists fell in the "some" category and not the "most". Now, if you choose to put yourself in the "MOST" category..............
BTW: Your answer about me over-speeding is funny (because I was going alone and at 40kmph). It also clearly reflects the attitude of most motor-cyclists. Screw up first and then blame it on the screwed a.k.a. offense is the best form of defense.
Yogesh N. Rao
Yogesh N. Rao
Dude... you are seriously worked up! First thing you can (and ought to) do is to take it easy.It goes without a doubt, that there are some maniacs out there - some of them are plain nuts and others are just foolish! But these fools are not just found on Motorcycles, they are also found driving Cars, Auto-Rickshaws, Buses, ... and even Cycles. They do not come from a certain special group or society!We do have certain issues in India - no special biking lanes, no traffic sense, no real knowledge of traffic rules, no respect for others on the road, everybody is in a hurry, ... The incident you described happens to every one of us, some or the other time. This does not make it OK, but it does mean that we should not over-react to these things. We have to take control in our hands i.e. drive safely with a clear understanding of mistakes that others can do and be prepared for them. With every incident, I think we learn something and are better prepared next time. Of course, if we do not learn but continue to simply scowl at others and hoping that some day this will all stop happening, then I guess we will just continue to be unhappy.At the same time, it is very important that every time an incident happens, we get down and try talking to the other person and make them realize where they were wrong, showing them how they could have done better to ensure their own safety as well as that of others. If an argument like this becomes heated, no one is going to learn from it... they will only get into a defensive mode and fight off every argument. Same thing done with calm, can make a difference!All this 'Gyan' is not something out of thoughts or out of a book, but from personal experiences. I have bumped into 'Auto walas' from time to time and cursed them, fought with them, only to realize that I am not helping anyone. At other times, I have made mistakes and have been pleasantly approached at times and told how I was wrong. Initial reaction is to defend, but if everything is calm, you tend to think rationally and realize that - Yes, I could have done better! And then you learn and improvise.So take it easy, learn from mistakes, be calm, take control in your hands and don't wait for others to improve, and at the same time try and help other realize their mistakes peacefully. Easier said than done... I know, but the only way out :)Enjoy Biking..- Prashant
Prashant Batra
Shashijeevan M.P.
You had changed 'most' to 'all' if your mail. Irrespective of the percentages don't generalize it.
Speed limit is different for each person. If you can't control your bike then your riding over the limits. This is especially true in case of cycle as it does not have strong braking.
If you were able to control your bike then all this unnecessary discussion would not have happened.
Please be cautious as fractures will take long time to recover with age.
-Jeevan
^^^ It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult. ^^^
Cc: Debamitro Chakraborti <deba...@gmail.com>; BBC <Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 1:49:32 PM
deepakvrao
On Feb 16, 1:24 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This board has been too mellow lately, what with Auroville, etc. :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Vivek Radhakrishnan <themudoff...@gmail.com
>
> > wrote:
> > Yogesh, dude....take a frickin chill pill man!!
> > 69
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Pradeep Murthy <pradeep...@googlemail.com>
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of
> >>> them would fall. I guess I wanted to see if
> >>> something would spill out if their skulls were
> >>> to crack and break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>> You wasted your time Yogesh.There was nothing
> >>> inside to spill :D
>
> >>> "Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud
> >>> enough to make motor-bikers crap in their
> >>> pants if they are in front of me to warn them.
> >>> I also want to use such a horn to scare
> >>> motor-bikers who scare me by coming too close
> >>> and suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a
> >>> horn that's small and can scream?"
>
> >>> I think you need a whistle.Who knows,maybe the
> >>> bikers/car drivers might think it was a
> >>> traffic cop blowing at them :)
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:24, Karthik
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Oops sorry Sandip....Shud've posted to
> >>> Yogesh........didnt check it.
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:20, Karthik
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "I paused for a few minutes
> >>> hoping one of them would fall.
> >>> I guess I wanted to see if
> >>> something would spill out if
> >>> their skulls were to crack and
> >>> break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>> You wasted your time.There was
> >>> nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:08,
> >>> Sandip Bhattacharya
> >>> <sand...@foss-community.com>
> ...
>
> read more »
Yogesh N. Rao
You had changed 'most' to 'all' if your mail.
I don't understand that.
Speed limit is different for each person. If you can't control your bike then your riding over the limits. This is especially true in case of cycle as it does not have strong braking.
My bicycle brakes fine. It doesn't brake when I have "Idiot-Motor-Bikers" stopping me short without checking their rear-view mirrors.
If you were able to control your bike then all this unnecessary discussion would not have happened.
Sorry, Which part of the discussion do you think was unnecessary? The discussion on dealing with idiot-motor-bikers who do not care about anyone on the road or the part about most motor-bikers being labeled idiot-motor-bikers?
Please be cautious as fractures will take long time to recover with age.
Fractured Bicyclists will recover faster than dead idiot-motor-cyclists. What do you say? Fracture is temporary and death is permanent.
Yogesh N. Rao
Oh but wait! that's already taken by Bangalore Mountaineering Club!
We should perhaps label it as BIMC, "Bangalore Idiot Motorbikers Club" :-). Most Bangalore motor-bikers could be its members :-) Just in case you did not notice, I said "Most".
prashanth selvaraj
@Dr.Deepak: First controversy, in a long time, where you weren't prominent. Eh...what's up, doc?..lol
Prashanth
Yogesh N. Rao
Deepak, we should start a DailyMile leaderboard for controversies :-)
biggfoot
hat on me so pardon me if it seems nonsensical ...
On-road safety is like a distributed problem in computing terms.
Everyone has to contribute for the perfect solution but one can only
decide about his/her own contribution at any point. I'll never have a
clue whether the person riding next to me on the road is a perfectly
normal gentleman heading to office or a jilted lover heading for hara-
kiri (:
Having said that, it is always binding upon the larger/heavier vehicle
to show some neighborly love to the smaller/lighter one. Mind you,
this also fits in case of the smaller vehicle replaced by a
pedestrian. In the specific scenario here (ahem ...) in case a
collision had taken place between our man Yogesh and the spared
motorcyclist then the motorcycle would have suffered some scratches at
most while Yogesh would've been doing perfect 10-point somersaults in
the air.
Yes, there are maniacal cyclists too who cause enough trouble on
roads. But with great power (read larger vehicles) comes great
responsibility ;)
Cheers!
- Sagar
On Feb 16, 5:04 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ha Ha Ha....Must be something to do with the Rao last name....oh wait
> wait....I am referring to just mine and Deepak's.
>
> Deepak, we should start a DailyMile leaderboard for controversies :-)
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 5:22 PM, prashanth selvaraj <prashanthselva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Lol..oh come on now! We have people riding like crazies in both modes.
> > Leave it be! Rejoice that all involved are still alive and watch out for
> > each other and for yourself next time.
>
> > @Dr.Deepak: First controversy, in a long time, where you weren't prominent.
> > Eh...what's up, doc?..lol
>
> > Prashanth
>
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I would also recommend that we start a BMC - "Bangalore Motorcyclist Club"
> >> where Motorbikers can vent.
>
> >> Oh but wait! that's already taken by Bangalore Mountaineering Club!
>
> >> We should perhaps label it as BIMC, "Bangalore Idiot Motorbikers Club"
> >> :-). *Most* Bangalore motor-bikers could be its members :-) Just in case
> >> you did not notice, I said "Most".
>
> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Jeevan, my answers are in-line:
>
> >>>> You had changed 'most' to 'all' if your mail.
>
> >>> I don't understand that.
>
> >>>> Speed limit is different for each person. If you can't control your bike
> >>>> then your riding over the limits. This is especially true in case of cycle
> >>>> as it does not have strong braking.
>
> >>> My bicycle brakes fine. It doesn't brake when I have "Idiot-Motor-Bikers"
> >>> stopping me short without checking their rear-view mirrors.
>
> >>>> If you were able to control your bike then all this unnecessary
> >>>> discussion would not have happened.
>
> >>> Sorry, Which part of the discussion do you think was unnecessary? The
> >>> discussion on dealing with idiot-motor-bikers who do not care about anyone
> >>> on the road or the part about most motor-bikers being labeled
> >>> idiot-motor-bikers?
>
> >>>> Please be cautious as fractures will take long time to recover with age.
>
> >>> Fractured Bicyclists will recover faster than dead idiot-motor-cyclists.
> >>> What do you say? Fracture is temporary and death is permanent.
>
> >>>> ^^^ It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is
> >>>> because we do not dare that they are difficult. ^^^
>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>
> >>>> *To:* Shashijeevan M.P. <shashijee...@yahoo.com>
> >>>> *Cc:* Debamitro Chakraborti <debami...@gmail.com>; BBC <
> >>>> Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> *Sent:* Tue, February 16, 2010 1:49:32 PM
>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [BBC] Re: How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>> *From:* Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> *To:* Debamitro Chakraborti <debami...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> *Cc:* BBC <Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
> >>>>> *Sent:* Tue, February 16, 2010 12:21:26 PM
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [BBC] Re: How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
>
> >>>>> Lovely website Debamitro! Have read it several times and had publicized
> >>>>> it in an article in my company's internal newsletter for bicycling safety.
> >>>>> Now, this website was created in a simplistic world, i.e. San Francisco and
> >>>>> does not consider our wheelie-sporting, zero-brained, depraved,
> >>>>> Idiot-motor-cyclists of Bangalore. So, we will need to work on one that
> >>>>> provides some local context - Idiot-Motor-Cyclists,
> >>>>> Pea-Brained-Indica-cabbies, Megalomaniac-Sumo-cabbies, and
> >>>>> Delusional-Qualis-Cabbies.
>
> >>>>> I recommend we prefix the word, Motor-Cyclists with the word "Idiot-"
> >>>>> from now. *That's what most of them* are, Idiots! We can in fact put a
> >>>>> banner outside all the Motor-Cycle shops in Bangalore which reads: "Welcome
> >>>>> Idiots! Thank you for not riding the bus you lazy bums".
>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Debamitro Chakraborti <
> >>>>> debami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> ride safe, and never forget the basics, that's all I can say
> >>>>>>http://www.bicyclesafe.com/
>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> That's a good idea Karthik. Pramod Bhardwaj had a whistle attached to
> >>>>>>> his camelbak hydration pack on TFN.
>
> >>>>>>> Problem with the police-type whistle is that our motor-bikers do not
> >>>>>>> respect the police. In fact, I witnessed a strange incident on last
> >>>>>>> Saturday. There was a guy doing wheelie in front of MegaMart near Deve Gowda
> >>>>>>> Petrol Bunk. Cops were checking licenses and helmets near that junction. So,
> >>>>>>> this guy did a wheelie right in front of them. All that the police guys
> >>>>>>> could do was look at the wheelie and get back to their business of checking
> >>>>>>> licenses again. This is the state of our Mera Bharath Mahaan, a common
> >>>>>>> family-man is harassed for not having a copy of RC Book with him while an
> >>>>>>> Idiot-Motor-Biker blatantly violates the law in front of the very people who
> >>>>>>> are supposed to guard it. Welcome to the Wild West! We are just one step
> >>>>>>> away from the fictional Ramgarh of Sholay....only difference, we have 1000s
> >>>>>>> of Gabbars running around.
>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I guess
> >>>>>>>> I wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to crack
> >>>>>>>> and break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>>>>>>> You wasted your time Yogesh.There was nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>>>>>>> "Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud enough to make
> >>>>>>>> motor-bikers crap in their pants if they are in front of me to warn them. I
> >>>>>>>> also want to use such a horn to scare motor-bikers who scare me by coming
> >>>>>>>> too close and suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a horn that's small
> >>>>>>>> and can scream?"
>
> >>>>>>>> I think you need a whistle.Who knows,maybe the bikers/car
> >>>>>>>> drivers might think it was a traffic cop blowing at them :)
>
> >>>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:24, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Oops sorry Sandip....Shud've posted to Yogesh........didnt check
> >>>>>>>>> it.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:20, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I
> >>>>>>>>>> guess I wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to
> >>>>>>>>>> crack and break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>>>>>>>>> You wasted your time.There was nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:08, Sandip Bhattacharya <
> >>>>>>>>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>>>>>>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >>>>>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>>>>>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >>>>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>>>>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >>>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>>>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
Yogesh N. Rao
deepakvrao
getting 'mellow' LOL
On Feb 16, 4:52 pm, prashanth selvaraj <prashanthselva...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Lol..oh come on now! We have people riding like crazies in both modes. Leave
> it be! Rejoice that all involved are still alive and watch out for each
> other and for yourself next time.
>
> @Dr.Deepak: First controversy, in a long time, where you weren't prominent.
> Eh...what's up, doc?..lol
>
> Prashanth
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I would also recommend that we start a BMC - "Bangalore Motorcyclist Club"
> > where Motorbikers can vent.
>
> > Oh but wait! that's already taken by Bangalore Mountaineering Club!
>
> > We should perhaps label it as BIMC, "Bangalore Idiot Motorbikers Club" :-).
> > *Most* Bangalore motor-bikers could be its members :-) Just in case you
> > did not notice, I said "Most".
>
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Jeevan, my answers are in-line:
>
> >>> You had changed 'most' to 'all' if your mail.
>
> >> I don't understand that.
>
> >>> Speed limit is different for each person. If you can't control your bike
> >>> then your riding over the limits. This is especially true in case of cycle
> >>> as it does not have strong braking.
>
> >> My bicycle brakes fine. It doesn't brake when I have "Idiot-Motor-Bikers"
> >> stopping me short without checking their rear-view mirrors.
>
> >>> If you were able to control your bike then all this unnecessary
> >>> discussion would not have happened.
>
> >> Sorry, Which part of the discussion do you think was unnecessary? The
> >> discussion on dealing with idiot-motor-bikers who do not care about anyone
> >> on the road or the part about most motor-bikers being labeled
> >> idiot-motor-bikers?
>
> >>> Please be cautious as fractures will take long time to recover with age.
>
> >> Fractured Bicyclists will recover faster than dead idiot-motor-cyclists.
> >> What do you say? Fracture is temporary and death is permanent.
>
> >>> ^^^ It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is
> >>> because we do not dare that they are difficult. ^^^
>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> *From:* Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>
> >>> *To:* Shashijeevan M.P. <shashijee...@yahoo.com>
> >>> *Cc:* Debamitro Chakraborti <debami...@gmail.com>; BBC <
> >>> Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
> >>> *Sent:* Tue, February 16, 2010 1:49:32 PM
>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [BBC] Re: How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>> *From:* Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>
> >>>> *To:* Debamitro Chakraborti <debami...@gmail.com>
> >>>> *Cc:* BBC <Bangalor...@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> *Sent:* Tue, February 16, 2010 12:21:26 PM
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [BBC] Re: How do I deal with idiot motor-bikers
>
> >>>> Lovely website Debamitro! Have read it several times and had publicized
> >>>> it in an article in my company's internal newsletter for bicycling safety.
> >>>> Now, this website was created in a simplistic world, i.e. San Francisco and
> >>>> does not consider our wheelie-sporting, zero-brained, depraved,
> >>>> Idiot-motor-cyclists of Bangalore. So, we will need to work on one that
> >>>> provides some local context - Idiot-Motor-Cyclists,
> >>>> Pea-Brained-Indica-cabbies, Megalomaniac-Sumo-cabbies, and
> >>>> Delusional-Qualis-Cabbies.
>
> >>>> I recommend we prefix the word, Motor-Cyclists with the word "Idiot-"
> >>>> from now. *That's what most of them* are, Idiots! We can in fact put a
> >>>> banner outside all the Motor-Cycle shops in Bangalore which reads: "Welcome
> >>>> Idiots! Thank you for not riding the bus you lazy bums".
>
> >>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Debamitro Chakraborti <
> >>>> debami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> ride safe, and never forget the basics, that's all I can say
> >>>>>http://www.bicyclesafe.com/
>
> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>> That's a good idea Karthik. Pramod Bhardwaj had a whistle attached to
> >>>>>> his camelbak hydration pack on TFN.
>
> >>>>>> Problem with the police-type whistle is that our motor-bikers do not
> >>>>>> respect the police. In fact, I witnessed a strange incident on last
> >>>>>> Saturday. There was a guy doing wheelie in front of MegaMart near Deve Gowda
> >>>>>> Petrol Bunk. Cops were checking licenses and helmets near that junction. So,
> >>>>>> this guy did a wheelie right in front of them. All that the police guys
> >>>>>> could do was look at the wheelie and get back to their business of checking
> >>>>>> licenses again. This is the state of our Mera Bharath Mahaan, a common
> >>>>>> family-man is harassed for not having a copy of RC Book with him while an
> >>>>>> Idiot-Motor-Biker blatantly violates the law in front of the very people who
> >>>>>> are supposed to guard it. Welcome to the Wild West! We are just one step
> >>>>>> away from the fictional Ramgarh of Sholay....only difference, we have 1000s
> >>>>>> of Gabbars running around.
>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:29 PM, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I guess I
> >>>>>>> wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to crack and
> >>>>>>> break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>>>>>> You wasted your time Yogesh.There was nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>>>>>> "Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud enough to make
> >>>>>>> motor-bikers crap in their pants if they are in front of me to warn them. I
> >>>>>>> also want to use such a horn to scare motor-bikers who scare me by coming
> >>>>>>> too close and suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a horn that's small
> >>>>>>> and can scream?"
>
> >>>>>>> I think you need a whistle.Who knows,maybe the bikers/car
> >>>>>>> drivers might think it was a traffic cop blowing at them :)
>
> >>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:24, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> Oops sorry Sandip....Shud've posted to Yogesh........didnt check it.
>
> >>>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:20, Karthik <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of them would fall. I
> >>>>>>>>> guess I wanted to see if something would spill out if their skulls were to
> >>>>>>>>> crack and break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>>>>>>>> You wasted your time.There was nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>>>>>>>> Karthik
>
> >>>>>>>>> On 15 February 2010 23:08, Sandip Bhattacharya <
> ...
>
> read more »
Rajaram
conditions on road. I have been speaking to a lot and they have been
quiet apprehensive about the traffic in Bangalore. Its not just the
motorbikes but also the autos who stop suddenly for you know why ...
Almost banged into an auto few days back ...luckily I do not tend to
go that fast ever ..most of the times the bikers are at a disadvantage
as unfortunately bangalore traffic shows pride in showing off the size
- the bigger vehicle ruling the roads...
I read in the thread that 45 km/ h is below the speed limit. That is
not the point. The point is whether one is able to control the vehicle
at that speed - it can be anything a motorcyle, car, auto or a bike.
Feel that at that speed it might be a bit tough to control and hence
would suggest to avoid that speed.
On Feb 16, 1:19 pm, Sudhir P <sudhirpalli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Yogesh: Cyclists usually violate more traffic rules than any other
> segment.... So the cyclists will get a similar banner too
>
> @Jeevan: 45kmph is well below speed limits there dude..... It wouldnt have
> mattered if he was on a cycle or in a car, the situation was tricky... and
> an accident could've occured in any case..... So Yogesh's speed is not the
> issue
>
> Yogesh.... just once ride the highway between Erode-Coimbatore (even
> Mysore-Nanjangud to some extent)..... You'll stop worrying about such petty
> things as mobikes cutting u off..... One day of high density cussing.....
> And then, everything else will be so much less annoying after that
>
> We live in all this chaos.... All u can do is flap some butterfly wings and
> hope that it'll turn out a storm some day
>
> -sud
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Vivek Radhakrishnan <themudoff...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > Yogesh, dude....take a frickin chill pill man!!
> > 69
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 16, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Pradeep Murthy <pradeep...@googlemail.com>
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> "I paused for a few minutes hoping one of
> >>> them would fall. I guess I wanted to see if
> >>> something would spill out if their skulls were
> >>> to crack and break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>> You wasted your time Yogesh.There was nothing
> >>> inside to spill :D
>
> >>> "Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud
> >>> enough to make motor-bikers crap in their
> >>> pants if they are in front of me to warn them.
> >>> I also want to use such a horn to scare
> >>> motor-bikers who scare me by coming too close
> >>> and suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a
> >>> horn that's small and can scream?"
>
> >>> I think you need a whistle.Who knows,maybe the
> >>> bikers/car drivers might think it was a
> >>> traffic cop blowing at them :)
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:24, Karthik
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Oops sorry Sandip....Shud've posted to
> >>> Yogesh........didnt check it.
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:20, Karthik
> >>> <karth1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> "I paused for a few minutes
> >>> hoping one of them would fall.
> >>> I guess I wanted to see if
> >>> something would spill out if
> >>> their skulls were to crack and
> >>> break open on Bellary road."
>
> >>> You wasted your time.There was
> >>> nothing inside to spill :D
>
> >>> Karthik
>
> >>> On 15 February 2010 23:08,
> >>> Sandip Bhattacharya
> >>> <sand...@foss-community.com>
> ...
>
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divya ravindranath
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are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
Visit www.bangalorebicyclechampionships.com for more details
Deepa Mohan
Divya....when I return, let's go moron-hunting together on our cycles!
Cheers, Deepa.
deepakvrao
I'll join in the chorus - most motorcyclists are assholes.
She carries pepper spray now, though fat lot that will do once you are
on the ground and the asshole is having a laugh a few hundred yards
away.
On Feb 16, 10:32 pm, divya ravindranath <divya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ah....yogesh.... join i join u totally in this... i can stand on the road
> and hit motorists with stones...
> my first week of cycling was terrible......and related to problems with
> two-wheelers
>
> after lot of coaxing Das pushed me onto a lady bird... My office was just
> 1.5 kms away, and i almost gave up atleast 4-5 times...
>
> once two men on the bike... the guy sitting behind tried to slap my butt
> which was on the cycle saddle... damn him... i almost fell off the
> cycle...it was pure disgusting and indecent act...
>
> the second time a motorist overtook me stopped and said in kannada "cycle on
> the footpath...roads are meant for you..." his style of speaking was out of
> total disrespect for a cyclist and a woman
>
> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> if i ever meet this guys again...they have had it!!! God save them!!!!
> divya
>
> ...
>
> read more »
Yogesh N. Rao
<turn sarcasm on> On a more general note, be warned bicyclist ladies of India, bollywood and our parents have taught us since our birth that we men are superior to you. If we let you survive through your birth (which most of you won't), we will then treat you like dirt for the rest of your miserable lives. And lady bicyclists, you are a level below the general lady populace in this pyramid, you wear pants and t-shirts which in our (lowly depraved) opinion implies you are loose. We Indian men are still like that only! <turning sarcasm off> Please carry a pepper spray and a loud horn. <<<<And may the flaming begin>>>>
Yogesh N. Rao
This is a problem that's far bigger than what bicyclists routinely face. It's the attitude of an AIM (average Indian male). Here is an example, there is an auto stand near my home in Girinagar where some auto-rickshaw drivers belonging to CITU routinely eve-tease 8th, 9th, and 10th standard girls from couple of schools in that area. Most of the times it is passing lewd comments about little girls who have over-developed. The police have warned these guys a couple of times so far. They have a union with photographs of Rajkumar and Vishnu Vardhan sitting there, they hence have a god given right to do just about anything their minds can conjure up. In my opinion an 8th standard girl is still a child. What do you think is an appropriate punishment for anyone who treats a child as a sexual object? Let's not go there though, we can't bring a child molester (referring to Ruchika Sharma) to justice in this country even after all these years. What is the solution for a much milder offense like eve teasing? Is it even an offense? After all, our Indian movie heroes do it routinely.
Go figure!
Yogesh.
Hi,
Sorry to jump into this too late.
My female friend was riding her cycle from MG Road to Baneghatta Road.
This time it was the auto-rickshaw drivers. One of the auto rickshaw driver slowed down and started passing on comments in Kannada to her.
I have heard this also happens at the Kaveri Emporium Junction Auto Stand (MG Road-Kamaraja Road)
Don't know what to do. A loud horn won't help in this case (Its an auto-stand with atleast 10-15 auto drivers).
Its a problem of eve-teasing ... its some mentality problem.
Rajesh
abhishekmadan
offices too, when AIM stop chewing their food to ogle at the girl next
to their lunch table with their mouths open and eyes popping out of
their sockets. Have some dignity for God's sake!
And I know many will have their flame-throwers ready when I say this,
but this (sadly) is considered socially acceptable in many of my
friend circles, especially the well educated nit/iit types from up
north.
On Feb 17, 9:21 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rajesh,
>
> This is a problem that's far bigger than what bicyclists routinely face.
> It's the attitude of an AIM (average Indian male). Here is an example, there
> is an auto stand near my home in Girinagar where some auto-rickshaw drivers
> belonging to CITU routinely eve-tease 8th, 9th, and 10th standard girls from
> couple of schools in that area. Most of the times it is passing lewd
> comments about little girls who have over-developed. The police have warned
> these guys a couple of times so far. They have a union with photographs of
> Rajkumar and Vishnu Vardhan sitting there, they hence have a god given right
> to do just about anything their minds can conjure up. In my opinion an 8th
> standard girl is still a child. What do you think is an appropriate
> punishment for anyone who treats a child as a sexual object? Let's not go
> there though, we can't bring a child molester (referring to Ruchika Sharma)
> to justice in this country even after all these years. What is the solution
> for a much milder offense like eve teasing? Is it even an offense? After
> all, our Indian movie heroes do it routinely.
>
> Go figure!
> Yogesh.
>
> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:02 PM, divya ravindranath <divya...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> ah....yogesh.... join i join u totally in this... i can stand on the road
> >>> and hit motorists with stones...
> >>> my first week of cycling was terrible......and related to problems with
> >>> two-wheelers
>
> >>> after lot of coaxing Das pushed me onto a lady bird... My office was just
> >>> 1.5 kms away, and i almost gave up atleast 4-5 times...
>
> >>> once two men on the bike... the guy sitting behind tried to slap my butt
> >>> which was on the cycle saddle... damn him... i almost fell off the
> >>> cycle...it was pure disgusting and indecent act...
>
> >>> the second time a motorist overtook me stopped and said in kannada "cycle
> >>> on the footpath...roads are meant for you..." his style of speaking was out
> >>> of total disrespect for a cyclist and a woman
>
> >>> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> >>> if i ever meet this guys again...they have had it!!! God save them!!!!
> >>> divya
>
> ...
>
> read more »
Debamitro Chakraborti
And I know many will have their flame-throwers ready when I say this,
but this (sadly) is considered socially acceptable in many of my
friend circles, especially the well educated nit/iit types from up
north.
--
Nadana Sigamani
"Fractured Bicyclists will recover faster than dead idiot-motor-cyclists.
What do you say? Fracture is temporary and death is permanent."
As someone who is recovering agonizingly slowly from his fracture, I
think prudence/caution are better and safer options for we cyclists to
be safe on the roads.
Regds,
Siga
Prashant Batra
divya ravindranath
Yogesh N. Rao
Before thing get out of hand, Abhishek was referring to guys in his friends-circle from North India and was speaking from his very personal observation. Seriously man, no one is cornering North Indians (because we Indians and our attitudes collectively suck big time).
I was bashing most motorbikers. Motorcyclists are not a religion, caste, or creed. They are just common folks on a vehicle with a majority making very poor choices while riding.
This thread was and is intended to be a venting ground. The thread is sad because it is a reflection of things going on all around us...which is incidentally beyond sad, it is pathetic!
We are all grown up people, grumpy no doubt but grown up. A few of us who have difficulty detaching from this email discussions need a chill pill badly,
Yogesh.
abhishekmadan
I've met some very kind motorcyclists too.
>The thread is sad because it is a reflection of things going on all around us...which is
>incidentally beyond sad, it is pathetic!
+thelargestnumberyoucanthinkof
On Feb 17, 8:39 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Prashant,
>
> Before thing get out of hand, Abhishek was referring to guys in *his
> friends-circle* from North India and was speaking from his very personal
> observation. Seriously man, no one is cornering North Indians (because we
> Indians and our attitudes collectively suck big time).
>
> I was bashing *most* motorbikers. Motorcyclists are not a religion, caste,
> or creed. They are just common folks on a vehicle with a majority making
> very poor choices while riding.
>
> This thread was and is intended to be a venting ground. The thread is sad
> because it is a reflection of things going on all around us...which is
> incidentally beyond sad, it is pathetic!
>
> We are all grown up people, grumpy no doubt but grown up. A few of us who
> have difficulty detaching from this email discussions need a chill pill
> badly,
> Yogesh.
>
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Prashant Batra <batra.prash...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Someone here is trying to malign Motorcyclists, others are trying to corner
> > Northies...
> > This thread is just sad... grow up people!
>
> > Let's get back to Biking!
>
> > - Prashant
>
> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Debamitro Chakraborti <
> > debami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:01 PM, abhishekmadan <abmad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> And I know many will have their flame-throwers ready when I say this,
> >>> but this (sadly) is considered socially acceptable in *many of my
> >>> friend circles, especially the well educated nit/iit types* from up
> ...
>
> read more »
Prashant Batra
> ...
>
> read more »
Ranjan Kulkarni
Here is one such incident which happened today with me.
Disclaimer: The following piece of non-fictional material should contain word/words that may offend readers and hence should not be read by faint hearted and I don't intend to apologize in advance
I had a minor accident today involving an autorickshaw. The twat (synonym for "nice guy") riding it just cut me in from behind which made me break a bit harder resulting in the back-end of the bike doing a somersault on me. I was left with a cut on both of my palms and a gashed left knee.
It was like any other day doing one of my daily short rides. I had covered 10 kms and was getting back home when I hit one of several uphill roads. I had given way to buses, couple of autos before this twat showed up. I was travelling at mere 13kms/hr and was picking up speed to beat this monster of a road (massive exaggeration there). Anyways, the road leading up to this, breaks into two halves in the middle and people often get confused where the vehicle infront is heading.So I was making sure there was no one behind me before I started my way up, when suddenly the twat came from nowhere, at some speed (no exaggeration there) swayed to the right just to overtake me and came back inside hugging the lane I was in. Out of sight and seeing him infront suddenly, I had to break hard otherwise my shoulder would have been in this autorickshaw's backseat traveling without a fare. I landed on my knees with palm facing straight on the tarmac. An old man who was passing by asked me whether I was alright.Thank you sir was what I should have said to him but due to the rage without a glitch I said I nothing.. I was fuming at the driver and I wanted to see if anything had happened to the bike. Luckily so far I couldn't see a dent and it was only later I realized I had a gashed knee. The cuts on my palms were no worse.
Came back home as if nothing had happened, due to intense interrogation that would have lead otherwise, from our inhouse interrogators, who were always against cycling in Bengaluru. I don't understand why the urgency in overtaking when he could easily had passed me if he had waited couple of seconds more. 2 seconds was all there was between a good public serviceman helping people to get to their destinations and a real twat, in my eyes. What a day to start with and hope the f**ker has a flat tyre at the start of a neverending uphill road and that noone is around to bail him out, that should teach him, the twat. /End of rant
biggfoot
cyclists in Bangalore and can't afford to lose an existing one :-)
As far as the rickshaw fella, I too have to deal with such type of
auto-rickshaw drivers more or less every time I ride to work. The
unnecessary honking from behind, cornering on turns it's an endless
list. From what I've seen they do this to all cyclists ... I guess it
gives them a kick. Ignore ... don't waste your time and attention on
them.
- Sagar
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Prashant Batra <batra.prash...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > All right bikers, a chill pill for everyone :)
> > And let this thread die down noww...
>
> ...
>
> read more »
Karthik
Regards,
> ...
>
> read more »
Ranjan Kulkarni
Karthik
Karthik
Parag Dubey
>
> Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud enough to make motor-bikers crap
What you need is a train engine horn. After you get one from the Indian
Railways, you need to make a slight modification so that it accounts for
the doppler effect and sounds like a train approaching at 150 kmph.
Rajesh Warange
Sorry to jump into this too late.
My female friend was riding her cycle from MG Road to Baneghatta Road.
This time it was the auto-rickshaw drivers. One of the auto rickshaw driver slowed down and started passing on comments in Kannada to her.
I have heard this also happens at the Kaveri Emporium Junction Auto Stand (MG Road-Kamaraja Road)
Don't know what to do. A loud horn won't help in this case (Its an auto-stand with atleast 10-15 auto drivers).
Its a problem of eve-teasing ... its some mentality problem.
Rajesh
Prashanth KK
I know its time to let this string die down naturally, but just
thought will add my 2 cents to this... :-)
I am relatively a new member of this group from Bangalore and am
currently in Adelaide, Australia. I rediscovered my passion for
cycling here, we have dedicated bike lanes, there are several ppl who
ride to work, there are specific places designated for shower,
changing, storage at work etc etc etc.
The reason why I am boring you with all this information is, to show
the contrast, even with all these facilities, people are at times
discourteous towards cyclist, I had a very similar incident to that of
Yogesh here a couple of days back the only difference was that it was
a car and not a bike... I have had instances where cars are parked on
cycle track so the cyclist will have to go onto the main road, people
open door without seeing and cyclists crash into the door etc... the
only difference is, after that both parties get up talk it out rather
than shouting at each other (I know its easier said than done but
worth the try).
In my case the lady who cut me off in her car and parked her car in
dedicated bike lane, almost throwing me off balance and crashing into
her car, stepped out and apologised propoursly and said she was
sorry... I was angry too, I thought I would shoot her head off, but
after she apologised and she helped me pick my bike up I was a bit
calmed down... (I know yogesh's situation was different and am dead
sure that the person who cuts us off in Bangalore would not even be
apologetic) but we being the learned community with an intention of
changing the world one revolution at a time should be more patient...
I just wonder what if yogesh (or all of us) would have instead of
shouting told the driver that dude you almost got me killed, can you
be careful next time onwards... frankly, it could have been anything
from the other guy shouting back at us and abusing us, to jut saying
sorry... but I am sure Yogesh would have felt far better after that
incident and he wouldn't have called a particular community "Idiots"
and triggered this chain of thoughts and probably spoilt his rest of
that day being angry and irritated at certain set of people.
Food for thought...
Prashanth KK
Yogesh N. Rao
Call center operators apologize profusely when something gets spoilt and they offer some minor trinkets (read apologize profusely and help picking up the bike). So, do you let them off the hook? Remember you are in Australia, don't yell at people. We read about stuff in the newspaper (although there may be some element of fiction and exaggerations). I would say don't get into fights like I did. What I did with getting into a fight was wrong even in India. In my opinion, you should have at least told the lady what she did was wrong and that she could have killed you. You let her off the hook this time, she will repeat the same damn thing and may get another rider with her next offense.
Now coming to my incident with "most Idiot Motorbikers", like I said, large scale societal changes happen in frustratingly slow increments, so venting as much as you want and getting it off your chest in a biker forum is a healthy thing in my opinion. If some guys take offense, please go vent somewhere else, this is BBC, Bangalore Bicyclist Club!
Yogesh.
guys, I am very sorry,Be
--
Prashanth KK
I agree with you yogesh, Bicycle Lanes in the US and Australia (or any
other place) do not guarantee you
anything (except for space). They are definitely safer riding than
India ( or any place where there is no dedicated bike lane), but crap
happens! and I wish all well to George, Kudos mate you are a real
fighter.
Don't get me Wrong Yogesh, I am not the saint type I am the satan
type, or at least was till last few years :-), I have had my own share
of cracking open my helmet on a auto wind shield coz he cut me off,
throwing a wheel spanner on a BMTC bus coz he was honking right behind
me when there was a traffic jam in old madras road etc... (after which
I had a nasty run up with Traffic SI Manjunath attached with
byappanahalli station, good chap though)
But the jist is as you have mentioned in your initial message " will
NEVER repeat it
again. All through my Nandi ride, I was thinking, what if that motor-
cyclist
in the under-pass was a rowdy. He could have repaired my head with
his
spark-plug-spanner in an instant."
I have had the same feeling, what if... etc you and I know for sure
its not a good feeling at all... It is absolutely better to vent our
frustration in the blog than directly at them (you are spot on and I
am with you in this)... this is exactly the point which I was getting
onto the table and you have very well paraphrased it...
As for the lady who almost killed me, its not mentioned in my write
up, but yes I did make her realise that she almost killed me, it was a
15 minute situation which I have summarised in one para... I share
your thoughts on this...
Ah and for the Call centre analogy and recent OZ situation... mate I
have a different perspective on that, happy to take it off line, I
don't want to dilute the topic which we are discussing, I can give you
ground level perspective on both issues, if keen to discuss this
further, please ping me @ kprashan...@gmail.com
Yogesh N. Rao
We should contemplate creating a Bicycle-Sene, Bicycle-Rakshana-Vedike, or better yet "Bicycle Chalavali BBC Paksha". (That was just a joke. My bark on this message board is not quite as bad my bite in real life). ~~ Yogesh.
--
Suntosh
http://www.decathlon.in/Cycling-Accessories-HORN
On Feb 14, 7:34 pm, Pramod Bhardwaj <pramodbhard...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I guess this is what you need...http://gadget.brando.com/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00451
>
> @115db this is at-least as powerful as the car horns. And damn it cost
> just 12$. In case you are picking one, just get me one please. :)
>
> ~Pramod
>
> On Feb 14, 7:09 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > I am looking for ideas here. I had an extremely close call in the Windsor
> > manor under-pass early this morning . I was doing around 45kmph as I pedaled
> > madly down the underpass. There was a son-of-a-b!@# motor-cyclist in front
> > of me on the right side. He suddenly started slowing down. I was almost on
> > his left side with him about 2 feet ahead of me. I had no idea why he was
> > slowing down. He suddenly started moving to his left side towards the
> > foot-path (in the process cutting me off). I have no idea why this
> > dumb-assh@le is moving to his left. I have no space at this point to move
> > right and go around him. It is too short a notice to brake very hard. So, I
> > braked and almost ran my cycle into the foot path. Luckily, I managed to
> > scrape through a tiny bit of gap between him and the foot-path and did not
> > meet with an accident. Why someone would stop in an under-pass is beyond me.
>
> > I promptly stopped my cycle and took four steps back. I then let my kannada
> > expletives fly. I called his mother and father bad names (especially the
> > former). I told him I was going to repair his eye-ball-socket (seriously
> > guys, I had my tire pump in my hand and was ready to pull his eye-balls
> > out). All this while, there was this poor frightened motor-cyclist who
> > repeatedly apologizing and probably cursing his bad judgment with stopping
> > too short without checking his rear view mirror.
>
> > I have had so many run-ins with motor-bikersthat I think 75% of them don't
> > have an oz of brain. Most of them don't get license legally. They pay money
> > to touts and just buy their license. I saw three morons on airport road
> > doing wheelies on my way back from nandi. I paused for a few minutes hoping
> > one of them would fall. I guess I wanted to see if something would spill out
> > if their skulls were to crack and break open on Bellary road.
>
> > Guys, two things come out. First, I need a class in anger management.
> > Seriously, my behavior this morning was terrible. I will NEVER repeat it
> > again. All through my Nandi ride, I was thinking, what if that motor-cyclist
> > in the under-pass was a rowdy. He could have repaired my head with his
> > spark-plug-spanner in an instant.
>
> > Second, I need a LOUD horn. Something loud enough to make motor-bikerscrap
> > in their pants if they are in front of me to warn them. I also want to use
> > such a horn to scare motor-bikerswho scare me by coming too close and
> > suddenly screaming. Do you guys know of a horn that's small and can scream?
>
> > Thanks,
> > Yoegsh.- Hide quoted text -
pyli
Read this interesting thread, and had a good laugh..!
Well dont we all face life threatening situations daily in the
traffic. As i am a daily cycling commuter i do have my daily dose of
close calls.
I do not blame the motorist or the cyclist. We just have too many
things that interrupt our life. Cell phones, street hawkers, vehicles
suddenly parking at the wrong places, some morons with out concern for
others, people learning how to drive, youngsters who want to taste
speed, old people, and lots of people swarming around. In short it is
a chaos..!!
Traffic cops are at the wits end, very few people respect and obey
them.
Now we need to ask this simple question, how this all happen.
Reason might be too many...! from political level to various level of
the social strata.
We have too many vehicles on the road, wanting things immediately. If
you look at the whole thing from above, it is really a big complex web
of activity but some how not stream lined. I can say it is more of
reactionary activity.
I some how don't understand why Indians in general can not behave more
properly in these situations like Junctions, queues. Was it because we
fear we might miss our chances. Refer the book "Games Indians Play"
game theory.
Comming to the point of Yogesh, you were lucky he apologized. I have
been lucky at times, but most of the times, bigger morons have blamed
me instead even though it is plain clear to every one who was at
fault. You can never say what is the mood of the other person. Might
be having office/family pressures the other person can have a sudden
maniac impulse. Dont you & me also have it?
We must learn how to control it.
The remedial solution is to rule with a firm a fair hand.
Unfortunately in this democratic country, it is very difficult to do
so. Thus proving Winston Churchill right--> "This country will be
ruled by Scoundrels and Rascals".
We need to meet the Government and recommend them to take firm and
fair steps to regulate traffic rules and ensure people abide by that.
Raise the fines so high, and cancel the license.
I have a dream that one day, the Government decides to cancell all
driving licenses, and make people earn it the proper way. Or at least
do it in phases. Outside state drivers will have to mandatory get a
Karnataka license.
Regards
Pyli
Nadana Sigamani
I think we cyclists in India are all very lucky to have almost no
problems on the road, compared to the likes this following guy had :
"...College (my good friend) claims that the craziest and most
dangerous thing I do these days is argue with truckers, and he might
be right. Over the years, I’ve been run off the road by too many
pickups and rock trucks to count. Texas truck drivers hate cyclists;
we have an ongoing war with them on the state byways. I’ve been blown
into ditches, hit by stones, and threatened with tire irons. So I have
a tendency to want to take on trucks personally.
A few years ago, College and I were blown off the road by an 18
wheeler. College flipped over on his bike, and the chain came off. I
was livid. I spat the grit out of my mouth and went chasing after the
truck, pedaling hard. Behind, I could hear College hollering at me,
“Stop, at least wait for me!”
The truck pulled up at a light. I braked and leaped off my bike. Just
then a guy stepped out…and then another guy got out…and then another.
The last guy pulled a knife out of his back pocket, just a pocket
knife. I noted, but still, it looked ready to unfold. By now, however,
I was too angry to be scared.
“Are you trying to kill me?” I asked.
“You don’t belong on this road,” one of them said.
“What do you mean we don’t belong?”
“I pay taxes on this road,” another one said.
I burst out laughing. “Yeah, taxes are a hot issue with me, too,” I
said. Just then, fortunately, College arrived, and stepped between us
and advised me to calm down. We haggled about the tax issue a bit
more, and all of decided to get back to our respective vehicles and
move on.
Things like that have happened again and again. Sometimes it’s
dangerous, and sometimes it’s funny, and sometimes it’s a little bit
of both. There’s a particularly bad stretch of road we call
Redneckville, a desolate sector where trucks roar through the
intersections and the only businesses for miles are a couple of
convenience stores. One morning, I was out riding with another local
Austin cyclist over the blacktop when an old pickup truck came right
for us. It aimed its windshield towards us and never wavered, a game
of chicken. We veered off the road and sailed into a ditch, both of us
flying over our handlebars.
We lay there, scraping the dirt off, when we heard a disembodied voice
speak to us from above.
A telephone repairman was high on a pole, peering down at us. He’d
watched the whole thing. His voice floated down to us from the phone
wires.
“If you-all don’t call the cops, I’m calling ‘em. ‘Cause that’s not right.”
The result of these adventures is that I’m more careful riding my
bike around Austin. These days I travel with somebody following me in
a car, or on a motorbike, to help shield me from trucks, the rocks,
and the cranks in their pickups. I can’t afford to get hit or hurt by
some guy coming from behind..." ***
Don't you all agree with me?
Siga
*** From "Every Second Counts" by Lance Armstrong, 2003 pg 18-19,
published by Broadway Books.
Yogesh N. Rao
Prashanth KK
I like Bicycle-Rakshana-Vedike.
On Feb 24, 3:26 pm, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Prashanth, I am looking forward to your return from Australia.
>
> We should contemplate creating a Bicycle-Sene, Bicycle-Rakshana-Vedike, or
> better yet "Bicycle Chalavali BBC Paksha". (That was just a joke. My bark on
> this message board is not quite as bad my bite in real life). ~~ Yogesh.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Prashanth KK
> <kprashanthkum...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > further, please ping me @ kprashanthkum...@gmail.com
Georg Leuzinger
now we had 2 good contributions to this thread, one calm one form india and another heted one from Texas. i could add many more. it always depended on my mood if i handled it serenly like Pyli or more hot booded like Lance, in Switz, india or spain and Italy. the story is everywhere the same . your own type of reaction will shape t he day for you and push a tiny bit each time towards the overall development, for the better or the worse.
while this thread was going on, a lot of memories came up from deep down and bits and pieces that formed in my mind to write a piece on traffic here, vis a vis Switzerland for instance.I will do it one day .............. but Pyli, you are absolutely right!
yogesh its not worth loosing your calm, think of Abhishek who wrote this poem the other day
georg