Benefits of Long distance cycling

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senthil k

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Dec 27, 2010, 1:40:02 AM12/27/10
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Hi all,

Cycling is an addictive sport. Longer you cycle..you long for more.

Just wanted to know comprehensive benefits of long distance cycling.

From what i know, cycling

1. Increasing stamina

2. Improves fitness level

3. Good for metabolism and heart..

Please add on....

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Senthil.K

Apurv Manjrekar

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Dec 27, 2010, 1:52:49 AM12/27/10
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Hi,

Its great for the head too. The endorphines give you a high and make you
feel much better. Helps in productivity increase.

Thanks and Regards,
Apurv Manjrekar

Mayank Rungta

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Dec 27, 2010, 1:55:59 AM12/27/10
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I don't know for others but for me I know longer fit into jeans I purchased this year! Forget that even my belts don't fit any longer. The first trip to ladakh took care of the flab around waste and back problem and the TfN took care of the rest! :)) So if u know anybody planning to spend 40K or so on a tread mill - recommend a bike trip for the same price! :D

Sree Ram

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Dec 27, 2010, 2:01:43 AM12/27/10
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Yeah, more or less the same.. entered the store and ordered two 38 sized 3/4ths. Little did I know that they would be hanging onto my ass instead of my waist. :(

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Mayank Rungta <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know for others but for me I know longer fit into jeans I purchased this year! Forget that even my belts don't fit any longer. The first trip to ladakh took care of the flab around waste and back problem and the TfN took care of the rest! :)) So if u know anybody planning to spend 40K or so on a tread mill - recommend a bike trip for the same price! :D

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Chidambaran Subramanian

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Dec 27, 2010, 5:40:30 AM12/27/10
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Not for me! However, 

#1) You can eat lotsa stuff.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Mayank Rungta <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know for others but for me I know longer fit into jeans I purchased this year! Forget that even my belts don't fit any longer. The first trip to ladakh took care of the flab around waste and back problem and the TfN took care of the rest! :)) So if u know anybody planning to spend 40K or so on a tread mill - recommend a bike trip for the same price! :D

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alphazed1

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Dec 27, 2010, 6:31:01 AM12/27/10
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good for the head huh??>.. guess its releasing way too many
endorphines in my system.. all i can think of is cycling..
sleeping..waking... eating.. drinking.. damn it.. i ll be kicked out
of my job soon if this continues...
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Sree Ram

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Dec 27, 2010, 6:41:25 AM12/27/10
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I concur.. same issue here!

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good for the head huh??>.. guess its releasing way too many
endorphines in my system.. all i can think of is cycling..
sleeping..waking... eating.. drinking.. damn it.. i ll be kicked out
of my job soon if this continues...-
 
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Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar

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Dec 27, 2010, 6:45:53 AM12/27/10
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My long rides
1. helped me shed around 5.5kgs.
2. Increased my stamina hugely(Now I can run 10K without breaks,
earlier I fainted at 1K)
3. Saw a lot different side of my country while interacting with
people.
4. A T Shirt dad gifted me 2yrs back(I kept it in a hope of getting
leaner someday) now fits perfectly without my belly tucking out :D
5. Waist reduced from 34 to 32.
6. Most importantly, when riding long distance solo, it gives me time
to see my inner self which is difficult when with family/frnds.

Raghu K

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Dec 27, 2010, 9:29:58 AM12/27/10
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What is long distance? With the way this group is going, 300Km is going to be a short ride in little while.  :D

Sudarshan Iyengar

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Dec 27, 2010, 10:05:14 AM12/27/10
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I will be away from bangalore's population and pollution. Am enjoying reading this thread. Keep your replies pouring......

On 27 Dec 2010 20:00, "Raghu K" <kodali...@gmail.com> wrote:

What is long distance? With the way this group is going, 300Km is going to be a short ride in little while.  :D

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Sohan

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Dec 27, 2010, 10:48:36 AM12/27/10
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Another benefit I can think of is a healthy long distance
relationship.

Imagine turning up at the doorstep of your girl /boy friend, all
endorphines charged up! Moving to Chennai? No problemo, see you this
weekend!

Also, you may not need to carry protection, as I have been reading,
that long distance cycling does something to those little ones.

Double whammy advantage!!

But then again on the flipside, I also have been reading that it's not
the just the little ones affected, but the delivery system is left
hanging, after the long stint on the saddle, in particular positions.

Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar

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Dec 27, 2010, 11:05:52 AM12/27/10
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> Also, you may not need to carry protection, as I have been reading,
> that long distance cycling does something to those little ones.

^^^ scary!!!

manish Rajput

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Dec 27, 2010, 8:49:15 PM12/27/10
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Long Distances = more time for myself..
I have never talked to myself ever before as much as I do now...
 
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Sameer Shisodia

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Dec 27, 2010, 10:52:34 PM12/27/10
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Forgot replaying-all

---------- Forwarded message ----------
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Date: Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BBC] Re: Benefits of Long distance cycling
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brilliant one, and totally agree


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Long Distances = more time for myself..
I have never talked to myself ever before as much as I do now...
 
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akram pasha

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Dec 28, 2010, 12:37:36 AM12/28/10
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I guess best of all is to push self, last 10kms only you can do it is so loud - you tend to build yourself i suppose.

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Ramey

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:44:27 AM12/28/10
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@Sudarshan Iyengar (off Topic)

the truth is Bangalore is out of pollution and the polluting people
from no where driving solely, slowly as show off, since it has been an
long weekend(followers of greater MNC's) say at least till 1st week of
Jan start. Adding to that almost no long traffic signals etc...,

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> I will be away from bangalore's population and pollution. Am enjoying
> reading this thread. Keep your replies pouring......
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Vasu

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Dec 28, 2010, 1:41:57 PM12/28/10
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Hi,

I dont know much but can say one thing about losing flab. I lost 16kgs in the last 9 months. 80% credit goes to my Trek 1.5, Minoura RDA 80 trainer, Garmin HRM, long rides and the simple yet super effective advice from Mr. 69 - no sugar. Thats it.

So yeah.. cycling kinda helps.

vasu.

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I don't know for others but for me I know longer fit into jeans I purchased this year! Forget that even my belts don't fit any longer. The first trip to ladakh took care of the flab around waste and back problem and the TfN took care of the rest! :)) So if u know anybody planning to spend 40K or so on a tread mill - recommend a bike trip for the same price! :D

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Yogesh N. Rao

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:32:36 PM12/28/10
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Vasu, Wow, 16kgs! no wonder I was shocked when I saw you last month. Mayank, you have to get Vasu's profile on your Byke Workshop ppt file.

Vasu, there are lot of people on BBC who join for losing weight and getting fit. Can you please share details about # of hours per day bicycled, your diet, etc? You are going to be a local legend very soon. You could perhaps even put it on BOTS website and share it.

~~ Yogesh.

sathish k

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:41:29 PM12/28/10
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Is there a way not to loose weight but still continue cycling??

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Sudhir P

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:55:31 PM12/28/10
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Is there a way not to loose weight but still continue cycling??

Eat a lot :D The license quite a lot of us yearn to earn!
 

Mayank Rungta

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:57:35 PM12/28/10
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Is there a way not to loose weight but still continue cycling??

Eat a lot :D The license quite a lot of us yearn to earn!
 
I have lost inches not kilos usually. The diet improves but I make enough room for junk! :D

Mayank Rungta

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Dec 28, 2010, 9:59:46 PM12/28/10
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> Vasu, Wow, 16kgs! no wonder I was shocked when I saw you last month.
> Mayank, you have to get Vasu's profile on your Byke Workshop ppt file.
I did - he bluntly refused! :D Knowing him I am better of pushing the
bike than pushing him to give me snaps though he makes quite an
impressive case! :)) 16 kgs in 9 months is more than a kilo a month! :))

Vasu

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Dec 28, 2010, 11:33:05 PM12/28/10
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Hi Mayank, Yogesh,

The reasons I refused to give snaps are:

a) I don't have any proper snaps which can be used as 'before' - 'after' pics. 

b) I believe people already know what to do to lose the flab. Its just that they don't actually do it. for example everyone who wants to lose fat knows that sugar, oil, butter etc are bad and cycling, running, swimming, etc are good to lose fat. They also know simple things like eating fruits instead of junk food or taking stairs instead of the elevator are beneficial but ppl dont. My point is it is not that ppl dont know what to do, they just dont do what needs to be done. So there is no point showing snaps etc for something they already know. As for the matter of motivating them to do some activity, it has to come from within. Until and unless there is self realisation, nothing will ever happen.

Hence, no pics. 

Regards,
vasu.

Yogesh N. Rao

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Dec 28, 2010, 11:40:56 PM12/28/10
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Vasu <mr.b....@gmail.com> wrote:
a) I don't have any proper snaps which can be used as 'before' - 'after' pics. 

Come on Vasu, I  will dig up some old pics on my hard drive if you want.
 
b) I believe people already know what to do to lose the flab. Its just that they don't actually do it. for example everyone who wants to lose fat knows that sugar, oil, butter etc are bad and cycling, running, swimming, etc are good to lose fat. They also know simple things like eating fruits instead of junk food or taking stairs instead of the elevator are beneficial but ppl dont. My point is it is not that ppl dont know what to do, they just dont do what needs to be done. So there is no point showing snaps etc for something they already know. As for the matter of motivating them to do some activity, it has to come from within. Until and unless there is self realisation, nothing will ever happen.

The before and after pictures of some unknown model in a newspaper is one thing. The before and after picture of someone we all know and respect is a totally different thing.

Sree Ram

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Dec 29, 2010, 12:23:36 AM12/29/10
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Is there another way without cutting the sugar?? I've got 32 sweet teeth :P

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Dec 29, 2010, 12:25:27 AM12/29/10
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a) I don't have any proper snaps which can be used as 'before' - 'after' pics. 

Come on Vasu, I  will dig up some old pics on my hard drive if you want.
U shud come up with a better excuse! :))

 
b) I believe people already know what to do to lose the flab. Its just that they don't actually do it. for example everyone who wants to lose fat knows that sugar, oil, butter etc are bad and cycling, running, swimming, etc are good to lose fat. They also know simple things like eating fruits instead of junk food or taking stairs instead of the elevator are beneficial but ppl dont. My point is it is not that ppl dont know what to do, they just dont do what needs to be done. So there is no point showing snaps etc for something they already know. As for the matter of motivating them to do some activity, it has to come from within. Until and unless there is self realisation, nothing will ever happen.

The before and after pictures of some unknown model in a newspaper is one thing. The before and after picture of someone we all know and respect is a totally different thing.
From the 2 dozen or more workshops my experience is this -

1. Most people wud cycle for health benefits with safety being their highest concern
2. Even a small nudge helps and with ur case it would be a huge push! :D
3. Before an after pics like Yogesh pointed of people around has a huge impact. At Sasken one of the girls actually recognized Sriram from College and she told he was this huge boy coming on a bullet. She admitted seeing his after snaps and asking who was the cute chap? :D (Sriram if u r reading this I am sorry I cudn't resist putting it all here! ;)).
4. Most of the things u mention don't work for a lot of people. Biking works due to the fun part and no extra time bit. Just replace commute to work by byking! :))
5. Itna kaafi hai ya main aur bakun? :D

Nadana Sigamani

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Hi all,

I burrowed into my cycling archives and found a couple of "before"
Vasu's pics in Sept 2009 Rajanakunte road race .
Hope he is much different in "after" now !
Have a great year ahead and may you all shed some more flab!!!

Siga

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Pradeep B V

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Dec 31, 2010, 9:12:19 AM12/31/10
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Vasu had lost weight like crazy.

On 31 Dec 2010 19:37, "Nadana Sigamani" <siga...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Mayank Rungta <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>

>> a) I don't have any ...

Hi all,

I burrowed into my cycling archives and found a couple of "before"
Vasu's pics in Sept 2009 Rajanakunte road race .
Hope he is much different in "after" now !
Have a great year ahead and may you all shed some more flab!!!

Siga

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Without going through the entire thread, here is my take:

1. Cycling has never reduced my weight. In fact, I tend to gain weight
(about 0.5 to 1 Kg) after every long (150+ Km) rides.

2. Cycling has never improved my fitness. In fact, the more I spend
time on cycling, I tend to go less fitter. So, rather do a few other
things when I need to be fitter: run, play badminton (singles), trek
tall mountains or if possible just play football. Running twice a week
(about 7 to 10 Km in each run) is enough and it works the cheapest
option for me. If you don't agree with me, try cycling 200 Km in a day
or run 15 Km in a morning at decent pace (say one and a half hours) or
play singles badminton for an hour or play 45 mins football (all in
serious manner). I would rate the toughness in the order: football
being the toughest followed by running, badminton... cycling comes
last in my list.

And too much in anything is never good.

Having said that, I'm also passionate about cycling and I do it for
seer fun and satisfaction. I cycle to office for seer convenience and
for the time it saves in commuting. And now willing to take an
overdose this year 2011 by participating in BBCh and Brevet rides
(plain indulgence).


On Dec 27 2010, 11:40 am, senthil k <senthil.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Cycling is an addictive sport. Longer you cycle..you long for more.
>
> Just wanted to know comprehensive benefits of long distance cycling.
>
> From what i know, cycling
>
> 1. Increasing stamina
>
> 2. Improves fitness level
>
> 3. Good for metabolism and heart..
>
> Please add on....
>
> Regards
> Senthil.K

George Joseph

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Jan 3, 2011, 4:50:13 AM1/3/11
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Something's not right. You must eat a LOT to gain weight during a 150km ride.

You should loose just weight in water alone - which you'll gain back but never the opposite.

I also wonder how you determine you are "less" fit after biking? Based on what meteric, heart beat, maximum weight in a gym, etc? I really hope it's your maximum heart rate, which gets lower as you get fitter.

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Opendro

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Yes. I do agree that something is not right with cycling. The thing
with cycling is that we can average 25 Kmph with much lesser effort
than say running at an average speed of 10 Kmph. Besides, I don't need
a flat belly to cycle whereas we cannot run with a potbelly. So,
cycling allows me to eat as much as I want along the way, while for
running/badminton/football, I would need to eat at least 4 to 5 hours
earlier, else I cannot just run or play.

I don't know the full scientific calories lost during cycling or
running. I never go to gym, because I consider it the worse way to
spend my life, just not fun, only waste of time (money too). I run in
parks. I don't have the gadgets to measure the calorie lost.

But I'm pretty sure that cycling is not that good as a fitness
programme. I'm not be very fast in cycling, but given an ample amount
of time, I can keep cycling distances, whereas running for two and a
half hours or playing makes me feel the toll all over my body.

My opinion of course comes from personal experience. If someone has
facts, I would like to read about it.

On Jan 3, 2:50 pm, George Joseph <gjosep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something's not right. You must eat a LOT to gain weight during a 150km ride.
>
> You should loose just weight in water alone - which you'll gain back but never the opposite.
>
> I also wonder how you determine you are  "less" fit after biking? Based on what meteric, heart beat, maximum weight in a gym, etc? I really hope it's your maximum heart rate, which gets lower as you get fitter.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Joseph
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san2411

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<quote>
If you don't agree with me, try cycling 200 Km in a day
or run 15 Km in a morning at decent pace (say one and a half hours)
or
play singles badminton for an hour or play 45 mins football (all in
serious manner).
</quote>

that depends. There are people who can run a half marathon with ease,
but won't be able to do 200k with that ease. Being said that, for me
running is tough. And weight gaining part, its strange. You should
ideally be loosing a lot of water and weigh less after a long ride. If
otherwise, you would be eating too much on the ride (blame it on
Kamat, McD :-) ).



On Jan 3, 2:50 pm, George Joseph <gjosep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something's not right. You must eat a LOT to gain weight during a 150km ride.
>
> You should loose just weight in water alone - which you'll gain back but never the opposite.
>
> I also wonder how you determine you are  "less" fit after biking? Based on what meteric, heart beat, maximum weight in a gym, etc? I really hope it's your maximum heart rate, which gets lower as you get fitter.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Joseph
> gjosep...@gmail.com
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> NA cell:1-847-859-9591
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Shankar Shastry

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:17:13 AM1/3/11
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that depends. There are people who can run a half marathon with ease,
but won't be able to do 200k with that ease.

+1. It is the other way round for me. I can do a 200 km ride with ease. Bangalore mandya bangalore was a piece of cake yesterday. After a little volini spray + 20 mins of rest, I was back to amazing form. The goa river marathon (21km) however was a killer run. Killed my knees with ease. I was walking like a duck for 3 days straight and it was almost impossible to get down the stairs. Of course, I have done many 100+ km rides and never run in my life before.

Maybe its just the training then. no?

Regards,
Shankar

Mayank Rungta

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:23:11 AM1/3/11
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But I'm pretty sure that cycling is not that good as a fitness
programme. I'm not be very fast in cycling, but given an ample amount
of time, I can keep cycling distances, whereas running for two and a
half hours or playing makes me feel the toll all over my body.

With Cycling I have noticed if you wish to lose flab around waist you need to cycle hard and the breathing has to increase. When you are forced to do tummy breathing (which keeps most of the infants fit!:)). On TfN alone I saw almost an inch disappear around the waist. You lower body has an excellent workout. I am starting to run now and will share comparative results. So far I find both of them great in their own right. Jogging requires a lot more discipline while anybody shud be able to cycle without fear of injury.
 

My opinion of course comes from personal experience. 

Ditto! :)) 

Opendro

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:25:04 AM1/3/11
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Sorry, I forgot to give the exact answer. When I said I feel less fit
after biking, I meant, my calves are not as strong as I like it to be,
I get a little more fab around waist, I cannot run as good as I should
be, so on.

About the weight, I have been 62 - 64 Kg (depending on when/how I
measure :)) for the last 10 years. I follow a light physical regimen
in sports. I eat full stomach whenever I eat. I had not lost or gained
weight beyond this range. But during my Bangalore Ultra 2010 (my first
attempt to run 25 Km) practice, I realized that I touched 60 Kg. It
was not like I was practising that hard. Just ran a couple of times in
a week for about a month.

I never meant to discourage people from cycling. I'm all for cycling
and I would encourage everybody to use cycling for short commutes and
even for fun long rides. But I just wanted to let others know my
opinion if people are cycling only for fitness.

Sudarshan Iyengar

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:49:26 AM1/3/11
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Cycling is yet another cardio vascular exercise just like swimming and running. We get our heart beat up the fun way.

The best part is that, it is a low impact exercise on your knees and shin unlike running.

It is believed that your body deposits extra fat if you are a long distance swimmer, runner out bicyclist. (ref: popular documentary called human body pushing the limits . Available on youtube, makes a very interesting watch).

On 3 Jan 2011 15:55, "Opendro" <ope...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, I forgot to give the exact answer. When I said I feel less fit
after biking, I meant, my calves are not as strong as I like it to be,
I get a little more fab around waist, I cannot run as good as I should
be, so on.

About the weight, I have been 62 - 64 Kg (depending on when/how I
measure :)) for the last 10 years. I follow a light physical regimen
in sports. I eat full stomach whenever I eat. I had not lost or gained
weight beyond this range. But during my Bangalore Ultra 2010 (my first
attempt to run 25 Km) practice, I realized that I touched 60 Kg. It
was not like I was practising that hard. Just ran a couple of times in
a week for about a month.

I never meant to discourage people from cycling. I'm all for cycling
and I would encourage everybody to use cycling for short commutes and
even for fun long rides. But I just wanted to let others know my
opinion if people are cycling only for fitness.


On Jan 3, 3:02 pm, Opendro <open...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes. I do agree that something is not right...

> > > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details


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George Joseph

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Look for the same effort nothing burns more calories than running. Biking on the other hand is one of the most efficient forms of mechanical propulsion ever invented. :)

Cycling is good for putting a high demand on your heart and cardio-vascular system - unless your doing something like track sprinting. Infact most cardio based sports result in muscle loss not gain. Ever seen a marathoner?


So the question is are your calves not about to calf press as much max weight or press the a lighter weight 100 times?

FYI - once you're past your mid- twenties your calorie needs go down for the rest of your life. Ideally we should all eat less with time.


As far not running as well - that's a known side effect of not exercising the same muscles used fir running. Namely Koranic bikers have issues with tight hamstrings or it band issues.

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George Joseph

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Jan 3, 2011, 5:58:00 AM1/3/11
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Nope different set of muscles. Lance took two tries before cracking a sub3 hour marathon inspire of his legendary VO2 max. 

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George Joseph

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Jan 3, 2011, 6:08:16 AM1/3/11
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That makes no sense at all what so ever!

Please post the "reference" material you mentioned. 

Just think about it a little  - If that's was the case the riders of the TdF who ride 3500km in 21 days would gain so much weight

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Deepa Mohan

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Jan 3, 2011, 6:34:45 AM1/3/11
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On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 4:25 PM, George Joseph <gjos...@gmail.com> wrote:
FYI - once you're past your mid- twenties your calorie needs go down for the rest of your life. Ideally we should all eat less with time.

So true...the fact being that by the time we are old enough to afford all the cake and ice-cream, we better not eat it! The metabolic rate does slow down steadily with Anno Domini.


As far not running as well - that's a known side effect of not exercising the same muscles used fir running. Namely Koranic bikers have issues with tight hamstrings or it band issues.

What are Koranic bikers?

Deepa.

George Joseph

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Jan 3, 2011, 6:40:46 AM1/3/11
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Oops ... I meant to say "many riders"


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Chidambaran Subramanian

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Jan 3, 2011, 9:59:33 AM1/3/11
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Maximum heart rate gets lower if you get fitter? I presume you meant resting heart rate?

Chiddu

YVR VIJAY

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Jan 3, 2011, 10:17:37 AM1/3/11
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Hi
There is some truth in Opendra's statement. Cycling does not help you
run better. Obviously one must do a specific exercise to improve in a
specific sport. There is no doubt it makes your legs and hips
stronger though. Belly depends on a negative input minus output.
On TFN I ate so much that I put on one Kg despite cycling over 850 kms
in 8 days. The fault was the quality of the nutrition, it was too good
to resist.
The biggest advantage of cycling is that it is non-impact and knee
friendly.
A combination of cycling, push ups, bhujang asana and sit ups makes
one perfectly fit I think.
Regards
Vijay

Sameer Shisodia

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For starters thin == fit and vice versa is a major scam. Its much much more than this, and under certain limits, nearly orthogonal. 

Personally, I get colds much lesser, feel more active, climb stairs easier and have a much better metabolism since I started riding. I make sure I do not lose any weight during rides. It does alter my overall eating behaviour towards more frequent, lighter meals (which is a good thing).

From empirical evidence, cycling helps you find a "natural weight" quite easily, given not overdoing any aspect. 

And Mayank - the idea of losing weight at specific points has been shown to be logically wrong :)

- sameer

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Chidambaran Subramanian

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Cycling helps you find a natural weight? Are you consigning the likes of us to lifelong obesity? At least let me have some hope :)

Chiddu

George Joseph

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Jan 3, 2011, 12:32:28 PM1/3/11
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A few years ago when I had tim I rode 100 to 150 miles a week for about 4 - 5 months and I definetly lost weight.

I've lost weight when ever I've started doing 3 or more rides a week of 90+ mis.

Of course I also tend to be more conscious of what Im eating.

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Kuldeep Kumar

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Jan 4, 2011, 12:26:09 AM1/4/11
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Ditto!!
   Whenever I am overweight and  i do about 150 to 200 Kms a week, i lose about a pound a week.
“Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.”
                              ~~H. G. Wells~~
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Opendro

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Jan 4, 2011, 3:21:41 AM1/4/11
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That is quite a lot of ride :) Anyone will start becoming conscious of
what they are eating with that kind of seriousness.

In summary, I would say, if you are not doing any kind of exercise, do
cycle at least. But expecting to remain skinny and flat belly by
cycling to work everyday may not work as cycling needs the least
effort of any physical movement. Some "serious" cycling will however
help in keeping up the cardiovascular health. We should also keep in
mind that cycling allows us to eat quite a good amount of food, unlike
running (even a non-serious one) which automatically forces you to eat
only the minimum necessary amount. For someone who was having other
sports like running, football, basketball or badminton, etc, it is not
sufficient to replace that sport with cycling alone from a fitness
perspective. I would rate even skating on a rink much more higher
energy consuming than cycling. Two hours of skating a week gives me
the "on top of the world feeling" on the body.

But from a competition point of view, every sport is challenging. That
however is of a completely different aspect altogether.

On Jan 3, 10:32 pm, George Joseph <gjosep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A few years ago when I had tim I rode 100 to 150 miles a week for about 4 -
> 5 months and I definetly lost weight.
>
> I've lost weight when ever I've started doing 3 or more rides a week of 90+
> mis.
>
> Of course I also tend to be more conscious of what Im eating.
>
> George Joseph
> gjosep...@gmail.com
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> NA cell:1-847-859-9591
>
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Chidambaran Subramanian
> <chi...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Cycling helps you find a natural weight? Are you consigning the likes of us
> > to lifelong obesity? At least let me have some hope :)
>
> > Chiddu
>
> > On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Sameer Shisodia <get.sam...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> For starters thin == fit and vice versa is a major scam. Its much much
> >> more than this, and under certain limits, nearly orthogonal.
>
> >> Personally, I get colds much lesser, feel more active, climb stairs easier
> >> and have a much better metabolism since I started riding. I make sure I do
> >> not lose any weight *during* rides. It does alter my overall eating
> >> behaviour towards more frequent, lighter meals (which is a good thing).
>
> >> From empirical evidence, cycling helps you find a "natural weight" quite
> >> easily, given not overdoing any aspect.
>
> >> And Mayank - the idea of losing weight at specific points has been shown
> >> to be logically wrong :)
>
> >> - sameer
>
> >>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >> --
> >>  I did the BSA *T*our *of **N*ilgiris
> >>www.bsatourofnilgiris.com
>
> >> Sameer Shisodia, Bangalore
> >>http://lingerleisure.inDo Nothing Breaks
> >> (m) +91-98451-80207
>
> >>  --
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>
> >> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
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Apurv Manjrekar

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Jan 4, 2011, 4:02:41 AM1/4/11
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Hi Opendro,

It all depends on what you expect out of the activity. If any activity
is performed just to derive pleasure out of it, it will not seem taxing.
For example if I skate for 2 hrs at very slow speed or run 5k at very
slow speed, I wont feel drained. A lot of people with potbelly's run,
play badminton and skate. They just dont take it to a higher level.

Some people take up cycling purely for commute. Having health benefits
is an additional add on for them. Some people take up cycling to remain
fit. They challenge themselves physically. Weight reduction will be
mandatory for such people, to improve their performance. Hence, they
will modify their training accordingly. There are some people like
Michael Rasmussen who will measure every grain they eat and every tape
they put on their cycle to improve performance.

The same applies to all physical activities like running. People play
badminton on roads for hours on. Do they become more physically fit than
a commute cyclists? Unless you play football very seriously, it wont
benefit you.

So I dont think its fair to say that cycling as an activity is inferior
to other physical activities. In fact I find that such comparisons are
meaningless. If you think that your mode of exercise is not working for
you, may be you are not doing it right or need to add more challenges.

Thanks and Regards,
Apurv Manjrekar

Opendro

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Jan 4, 2011, 4:34:42 AM1/4/11
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Hi Apurv,

I wouldn't use the word "inferior" for cycling or any other thing. I
really don't think that way. I also don't really think that it is easy
to cycle the way some of the folks do here in this group. They do
really serious cycling, which needs a lot of energy and fitness level.

Sports like badminton or football or basketball are inherently
competitive, because your opponent is continuously trying to outscore
you even during regular, not-serious, fun games. I earlier explicitly
mentioned "25 Kmph" for cycling, not really lazy speed. It is above
the half-way average speed of the serious cyclists. Similarly I
mentioned running speed at 10 Kmph which is about halfway of the
serious runners.

You really think that a lot of people with potbelly run, play
badminton and skate? I'm yet to see one. Of course, I do see a lot of
pot bellies strolling in the park though :) and I also see on streets
where people just pass the shuttle cork straight to each others
rackets (I used to do that to my 5 years old daughter :))

Anyways, I think, I'm gradually offending the cyclists enthusiasm. I
have made my points and I should rather keep shut now :)
> >>>>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details
> >>>> --
> >>>>   I did the BSA *T*our *of **N*ilgiris
> >>>>www.bsatourofnilgiris.com
> >>>> Sameer Shisodia, Bangalore
> >>>>http://lingerleisure.inDoNothing Breaks
> >>>> (m) +91-98451-80207
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deepakvrao

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Jan 4, 2011, 4:51:46 AM1/4/11
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Stated your points rather.

I dont think you have offended any cyclists. Just that most dont agree
with those points.

Shreyas Kumar

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Jan 5, 2011, 8:56:17 AM1/5/11
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Have been running since May 2009, did nothing much on my weight.
Height 6ft; Weight 87Kgs
Started cycling since May 2010. Down approx 10Kgs now. Weigh in
between 77 to 78kgs
I have run 50kms in the RFL ultra and done 300kms biking for the Ultra
BCB. Cycling seems to give me best results.

I eat what I like now and all my antique clothes fit me really well
now. Metabolism goes up like whoooooooosh and I eat all the food i
like and the quantity I like. I find these sports help each other
since biking has made me run faster too (it might just be the kgs or
also the stamina that I built up while biking).

I dont know what it does to others, but it sure does work for me.

On Dec 29 2010, 10:23 am, Sree Ram <n.sreeramn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there another way without cutting the sugar?? I've got 32 sweet teeth :P
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Vasu <mr.b.mis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I dont know much but can say one thing about losing flab. I lost 16kgs in
> > the last 9 months. 80% credit goes to my Trek 1.5, Minoura RDA 80 trainer,
> > Garmin HRM, long rides and the simple yet super effective advice from Mr. 69
> > - no sugar. Thats it.
>
> > So yeah.. cycling kinda helps.
>
> > vasu.
>
> > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:25, Mayank Rungta <mr.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I don't know for others but for me I know longer fit into jeans I
> >> purchased this year! Forget that even my belts don't fit any longer. The
> >> first trip to ladakh took care of the flab around waste and back problem and
> >> the TfN took care of the rest! :)) So if u know anybody planning to spend
> >> 40K or so on a tread mill - recommend a bike trip for the same price! :D
>
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>
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>
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George Joseph

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Jan 5, 2011, 9:05:59 AM1/5/11
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Bottom line: ANY cycling is better than no cycling.

ps. Congratulations on your improvements Shreyas.

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Sudarshan R. Iyengar

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Jan 5, 2011, 9:46:59 AM1/5/11
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Still unclear about the objective of this thread but just wanted to
make a point about weight loss/gain :-)

Cycling or no cycling, the bottom line to losing or gaining weight is
the simple relation between input calories and burnt calories. It may
not be wise to arrive at any generalizations with regard to any sport
as different peoples' bodies react (burn calories) differently to
different activities depending on their current metabolism and a whole
lot of other factors. No other person's formula/regimen will work for
your body in exactly the same way, so there is really no point in
drawing any conclusions from their effort. In my opinion, the closest
way to approximate this might be to test yourself at the
sport/activity in question and then try to extrapolate the results for
a higher level of effort. But again, the results might not even be
linear there so its still an approximation.

Sudarshan R. I.

Chidambaran Subramanian

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Jan 5, 2011, 11:22:36 AM1/5/11
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You're just not eating enough my friend :)

Chiddu

George Joseph

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Jan 5, 2011, 11:31:48 AM1/5/11
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Clear objectives and logic have no place in this forum. ;)

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Shivakumar Narayanan

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Jan 5, 2011, 9:52:37 AM1/5/11
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...and if you hit a plateau with the regimen - change or improvise the routine. It applies to any sport of activity you take for weight loss.

~Shiva
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