[BBC] Old tube as rubber patches for puncture?

[Saurabh Singh]

Is it a good idea to use old tubes cut into rubber patches for fixing punctures?

Saurabh Singh
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[Pradeep Naidu]

yes you can use them as patches..

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Pradeep Naidu S

[Opendro]

However you would need to file the old tube before applying glue. The patches available in the market don't need to be filed. Is it worth doing all that. Patch with self adhesive cost Re.1 per piece only.

[Pradeep Naidu]

saurabh,
Aslo try parktool puncture kit avaliable at bots and decathlon. They are awesome.

[Saurabh Singh]

I already have a puncture kit form decathlon, I was out of patches and  I had 3-4 punctures, so I decided to cut up an old tyre and use it as patches.

I learned the hard way to file the old tube. :)

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[Opendro]

I hate decathlon one for the fact that they don't sell only patches separately. Who needs lever anyway (that too for every patch we buy)? So, I started buying those Re.1 patch (pretty good) from local stores. I buy Fevibond glue (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.tradeindia.com/fp/0/175/991.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tradeindia.com/fp175991/Fevibond.html&h=450&w=450&sz=25&tbnid=D3PaJrPt7yOImM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=90&zoom=1&usg=__GPHISXtSXSVykgXswIlJeVwjFgM=&docid=pYPci8wphRgxOM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UOBKUZWtOoGPiALpvoGwCg&sqi=2&ved=0CDkQ9QEwAQ&dur=561)

The thing I like about this glue is that it does not dry too fast, which allows me enough time to spread uniform thin film. Apply and keep in sunlight for about 3 mins before attaching together.

[Chidambaran Subramanian]

Where can you get a big tube of the rubber solution?

Regards

Chiddu

[Chidambaran Subramanian]

Hmm, actually I discontinued Fevibond because it seemed to come off multiple time,maybe I should just wait longer

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Opendro <ope...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Opendro]

True. Film you apply has to be thin and uniform. That will ensure a quick dry. If you stick before drying, they will mostly open up like a rubber gel. In cold weather you should wait till almost 5 mins. You will know once you learn the dried texture. You cannot just pull out even immediately after affixing it (if dried before affixing).

[deepakvrao]

Never buy a big tube. Rubber solution gets spoilt with age after opening.

I've also had iffy patching with the Fevibond. Had bought some Taiwanese stuff from Wheelsports long ago, and never ever had a failed patch with that. Now, I just got the Park kit, and that stuff is awesome. Dries really fast and glues superbly. 100 bucks and you can patch about 12 or so flats.

[Sreepathi Pai]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:51 AM, deepakvrao <deepa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Never buy a big tube. Rubber solution gets spoilt with age after opening.

Technically the solvent inside dries, rendering the rubber solution
unusable. And you don't even have to open it. Apparently the volatile
solvent "leaks" over time from the crimp at the bottom of the tube.
Always a good idea to check if the solution is still flowing before
going out on a long ride.

You get small tubes of rubber solvent for about INR 5 each. Buy in
bulk at B V K Iyengar road (25 for about INR 70). The best Indian
patches are made by a company called "Omni". You get a 100 patches for
about INR 30 or so.

While old latex tubes can probably be used for patching (after
removing the "non-stick"), I'm not sure about using old butyl tubes.
The latter have never worked for me, and I learnt that the hard way.

P.S.: I bought all this stuff just before I switched to Marathon tires
and so never got to use them :)

Sreepathi Pai

[Vasu]

Agree with Sreepathi. The old butyl tubes never worked for me either. I bought an Omni sheet for 70 INR a couple of years back. Those were my MTB days. Then discovered liners and more importantly how to ride properly and haven't seen many flats since. Got bored of seeing that Omni sheet in my tool kit so donated it to BOTS.

 

I would buy the Park Tool kit for sure, not because the patch is great but because the box is nice and handy. When the patches run out just buy a handful from the local indian cycle repair guy/shop Re 1 / piece and buy a small tube of rubber glue from the same shop and  you are set.

 

Simple!

[chirag singal]

Just ask BOTS for their business card :D

http://blog.bumsonthesaddle.com/2013/03/20/bots-visiting-cards-for-abby/ 

[Ramey]

Agreed with all the methods mentioned in thread, its taken if you are on MTB/Hybrid or your PSI is less than 40. have you guys ever heard of self vulcanising (kinda of latex of around the black rubber patch)
which of those Rs1/- patches have them and more over they are thick said that if you are a roadie you will mess up with the tube since the thick patch doesn't gel properly and you guys think it worth to trade off your life for Rs1patch/fevibond etc.., when your Tyre Psi is in the range of 100-140.

let it be an Park tool Patches which is awesome one or the decathalon- are self vulcanising patches-i wouldn't claim that the rest of methods don't work with one or many but do you want to ride having them back in your mind that they can give away any time.

Cheers,

Ramey  

[Opendro]

I don't understand this life and death situation. Are you suggesting that a Re.1 patch failure will cause the road bike to overspeed over some 100 kmph and cause some death? I just cannot understand. Can you please elaborate?

[deepakvrao]

Actually, Ramey's entire post was incomprehensible, to me at least.

[Banibrata Dutta]

Come on, it was not so bad. Don't tell me you guys didn't have to deal with SMS lingo, which takes English to a whole new level.

Ramey probably means that it's not worth risking your life (s.a. due to sudden deflation -- perhaps), which is what might happen if one uses the fevibond plus patch cut out of old-rubber tubes to fix a puncture, especially as the tube is inflated to 100-140 psi !! Probably comparing it with self-adhesive type of patches you can buy for Re.1 !!

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[Deepak Rao]

Ali,

I would not call it a generation gap. Just poor writing, with no punctuations etc.

On 23 March 2013 14:32, Ali Poonawala <alfa...@gmail.com> wrote:

+1 Deepak..!

me too !

Generation Gap is what this is called .. LOL !

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[Ramey]

@ Opendro not sure if the Re1 will cause over speed, with the kind of 100+ PSI in your Tyre the probability is high.are suggesting to take chances to folks that all would be well!  why don't suggest Re120 tyre available in LBS.

[deepakvrao]

I rest my case guys. LOL

[Tejovanth N]

I bought a pack of patches at comm street. Rs 40 for 100 patches.. :)

[Opendro]

What is LBS (I better know it now than later)?

Where do I get Rs. 120 tires? Even if it were there, the reason I wouldn't buy couldn't be safety. It would rather be for other parameters such as comfort, durability, racing performance (weight, etc.) and ease of installation. I usually hate the ones in local shops with thick steel beads. Again, they are pretty safe. I had used them a lot earlier.

[Chidambaran Subramanian]

LBS - Local bike shop

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[Ramey]

LBS=Local Bike Shop(which do not deal with any of the premium brands).

@ Opendro it looks now you are on the right track and you have started to think on the parameters. you get the Rs120 tyre in LBS

any thing is safe when your speed doesn't cross beyond 15-20kmph,for bike if your speed is well over 30kmph,its termed as insane speed any failure (tyre burst,tyre ripping off the rim,sudden deflation,patch failure etc...,)  at that speed it will lead to fatal accident(will not if you are the luckiest person).

I wouldn't recommend any one to tweak/patch up/amateur/shivaji nagar kinda work being done with the Key characteristic components and the other is the significant characteristics components which you can to a certain limit. 

[Pradeep Naidu]

Ramey,
i dont understand this, How can a 30 kms speed be insane speed?
And i get flat often when i am doing speeds near to 40 and nothing drastic happens. The bike just slows down and i stop it rght there.

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[Ramesh v]

Pradeep,

it might be subjective but said that are we talking about road bike with 23c on them.atleast for me 30kmph and above is still an insane speed on bike with cleats on,

How can you stop right there when you are on the second lane and off course in India shoulder doesn't mean any thing to folks around.

[Pradeep Naidu]

i have a road bike and my tires are 23c and i use cleats..if you have cleats, 30kmph is not at all called speed.

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[Chidambaran Subramanian]

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Pradeep Naidu <pradee...@gmail.com> wrote:

i have a road bike and my tires are 23c and i use cleats..if you have cleats, 30kmph is not at all called speed.

And what if you don't have cleats? 

[sandeep shet]

Cleats or no cleats. 30kmph is not insane at all. 

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[Ramesh v]

folks have to learn them viz hard way to believe those figures.

[Sri]

Vasu - Aah you're one more person who thinks that the box is nice and handy :)

Ramney,
Sorry, confused quite a bit here.  What is your point?

That people should not ride road bikes?

Or that people may ride road bikes but not over 30kmph which you consider insane speeds, and according to you if at that insane speed any failure happens (tyre burst,tyre ripping off the rim,sudden deflation,patch failure etc...,)  at that speed it will lead to fatal accident (will not if you are the luckiest person)? Particularly if you have cleats on?

Or that people should not ride bikes without the safest Rs.120/- tyres available at LBS that do not deal with premium brands?  By the way I went to a LBS yesterday to get non-knobby tyres for my MTB and it costs around Rs.320/- per tyre and could be as safe or unsafe, depending on how and where I choose to ride.

Or that people should go back to the old vulcanising way of patching punctures (don't pounce on me, Doc, Ali myself and many others who've been around for long enough have all benefited by vulcanised patches - both hot and cold - and so I do know what vulcanising is)?

Or that people should not ride 'on the second lane' - Whatever that means - 'since you cannot stop right there' since, according to you in India shoulder doesn't mean any thing to folks around.

Now, now, don't get intimidated by my questions.  ALL I am trying to say is that I'm not clear as to what you're trying to say.  If you pause to read aloud, what you've written and then post it, may be, we will be able to understand your point.

Sri

[Ramey]

On Friday, 29 March 2013 15:46:26 UTC+5:30, Sri wrote:

Vasu - Aah you're one more person who thinks that the box is nice and handy :)

Ramney,
Sorry, confused quite a bit here.  What is your point?

    

   Sri,

    If there's a confusion,can't help you with a clarity/if they don't wan't understand and why should I, whats your point? 

That people should not ride road bikes?

 

    Never suggested people shouldn't ride road bike and whom am'I do so or who you are do so,i guess its left to individual. 

Or that people may ride road bikes but not over 30kmph which you consider insane speeds, and according to you if at that insane speed any failure happens (tyre burst,tyre ripping off the rim,sudden deflation,patch failure etc...,)  at that speed it will lead to fatal accident (will not if you are the luckiest person)? Particularly if you have cleats on?

 

   whose going to stop you,guess there isn't any speed limit by law,learn it the hard way! 

Or that people should not ride bikes without the safest Rs.120/- tyres available at LBS that do not deal with premium brands?  By the way I went to a LBS yesterday to get non-knobby tyres for my MTB and it costs around Rs.320/- per tyre and could be as safe or unsafe, depending on how and where I choose to ride.

   

    i would say best wishes for your experiment and for volunteering for that,safety in India is ones own luxury though you are free and independent    to choose what ever you want-you wish to learn in hard way-please do who is going to stop either.  

Or that people should go back to the old vulcanising way of patching punctures (don't pounce on me, Doc, Ali myself and many others who've been around for long enough have all benefited by vulcanised patches - both hot and cold - and so I do know what vulcanising is)?

  have you referred to previous thread where have i mentioned that people should only stick to old method of vulcanising-petty for your understanding.

  yes if its MTB tube old method will work,if it is road tube then you are going to burn it out.and its great that you agreed that you have been benefited from the vulcanised patches-which i did recommend in my previous posts-now whats your point?

   

   instead of writing here you could have spent the same time to google out or you could have gone to a local puncher fixing shop to have more gyan

   since you don't understand what i'm writing.      

Or that people should not ride 'on the second lane' - Whatever that means - 'since you cannot stop right there' since, according to you in India shoulder doesn't mean any thing to folks around.

 

   if you are highly talented and if you want to be an organ donor-please do and have your followers.  

Now, now, don't get intimidated by my questions.  ALL I am trying to say is that I'm not clear as to what you're trying to say.  If you pause to read aloud, what you've written and then post it, may be, we will be able to understand your point.

     

    yes i have and hope you don't get intimidated by the reply,if its not clear don't try,i give the ----- and are you British?

   why the heck I have been on to this thread,should have utilized the time for adding some more miles.

[mayank tripathi]

Lolz

[Sri]

ROFLMAO

Doc, we all know why you rested your case :)

While it took me 3 mins to write my comments, asking Ramey what his point was, he has spent a lot of time saying ..... er... well, whatever he's tried saying :).  Obviously he hasn't figured out the meaning of 'If you pause to read aloud, what you've written and then post it, may be, we will be able to understand your point.'
LOLzzz.

Of course, I like his realisation, "why the heck I have been on to this thread,should have utilized the time for adding some more miles"

British Nationals on BBC, he's not meant any offence / harm here. I'll still apologise on Ramey's behalf.

I also have to rest my case, LOL

Sri

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:) Lol

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Subject: Re: [BBC] Old tube as rubber patches for puncture?

[Ramesh v]

sri

ROFLMAO

finally you have realized and  appreciate your state of having rested your case(R.I.P) which you should have done in first case before posting/making your point.

great doing for those testimonies you have,Obviously you haven't figured out either.

LOLzzz

[Ramey]

sri

ROFLMAO

for your 3mins time spent on comments and being the fastest/highly talented - expect some one will award a trophy for that! or let your boss know  that you did it in 3min or is he in this forum!LOLzzz 

my realisiation-actually meant, why am'I wasting time talking to bunch of......

finally you have realized and appreciate your state of having rested your case(R.I.P) which you should have done in first case before posting/making your point.

great doing for those testimonies you have,Obviously you haven't figured out either.

LOLzzz

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