Bengaluru DownHill instructional mahem

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Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar

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Jul 2, 2011, 12:57:18 AM7/2/11
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Just in case anyone not aware of this,

Event lineup

7am - Rider meeting at Turahalli Dh track

7.15 to 8.00am
Know The Limits session - skill building for the Rider and
understanding limitations.

8.00 to 10.00am
Know the Track - Taming the track, working on it section wise.

10.00 to 11.00am
hit BumsOnTheSaddle for an inspiring Video Session to learn more
(40mins approx)

Others are requested to come and try their things out while the DH
runs are happening - photographers, time keepers, trail builders best
time to understand the trail and get the best spots for your stuff !

Cheers,
Akshay

Kishan Kumar

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Jul 2, 2011, 1:15:24 AM7/2/11
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Coordinates please?

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Arvind Ganesh

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Jul 2, 2011, 2:38:02 AM7/2/11
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modi

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Jul 2, 2011, 4:14:30 AM7/2/11
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link to BBCh 4 2010 turahalli gpx


In the map 4km to 5km is the downhill track

cheers
modi

Parag

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Jul 2, 2011, 4:53:38 AM7/2/11
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I will come over,can someone post the last set of directions from
Kanakapura road to the starting point ?
Is it Roadbike friendly ? Or strictly deflated MTB tyre kind of trail.

On Jul 2, 1:14 pm, modi <modi.ku...@gmail.com> wrote:
> link to BBCh 4 2010 turahalli gpx
>
> http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/16939089
>
> In the map 4km to 5km is the downhill track
>
> cheers
> modi
>
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>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Arvind Ganesh <arvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is happening 7AM tomorrow, Sunday!
>
> >http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Turahalli,+Bengaluru,+Karnataka,+India&...
>
> > -Arvind
>
> > On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Kishan Kumar <kishan.kumar...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> Coordinates please?
>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
>
> >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar <
> >> akshayprabhugaon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Just in case anyone not aware of this,
>
> >> > Event lineup
>
> >> > 7am - Rider meeting at Turahalli Dh track
>
> >> > 7.15 to 8.00am
> >> > Know The Limits session - skill building for the Rider and
> >> > understanding limitations.
>
> >> > 8.00 to 10.00am
> >> > Know the Track - Taming the track, working on it section wise.
>
> >> > 10.00 to 11.00am
> >> > hit BumsOnTheSaddle for an inspiring Video Session to learn more
> >> > (40mins approx)
>
> >> > Others are requested to come and try their things out while the DH
> >> > runs are happening - photographers, time keepers, trail builders best
> >> > time to understand the trail and get the best spots for your stuff !
>
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Akshay
>
> >> > --
> >> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details
>
> >> --
> >> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> >> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

Shankar Shastry

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Jul 2, 2011, 5:01:25 AM7/2/11
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Oh my god... Roadbike friendly? Why o why?

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Shankar Shastry

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Jul 2, 2011, 5:22:53 AM7/2/11
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No offense taken man :D. Was just wondering why someone would bring a road bike to a downhill instruction thingy.

And on another note, you don't really need quick release to repair punctures. Also, a 14-15 spanner is not too big for the saddlebag!

On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Parag Patankar <parag.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
No offense, just asking as I dont have an MTB at present--my Daily commute ACT 105 but it does not have quick release, so cant repair punctures etc----was planning to get my Sport 1 if rideable there.

krishna kumar

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Jul 2, 2011, 6:31:15 AM7/2/11
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hi friends can anyone tell  me that tomorrow is BBCh or its just trial ride...

" BURN YOUR FAT NOT FUEL....!!! "

With Regards,
Krishna
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Arvind Ganesh

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Jul 2, 2011, 6:35:44 AM7/2/11
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It is not the race. It is an event to teach the basics of downhill mountain biking. Those that have never raced downhill on a MTB, will find it useful. 

--

krishna kumar

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Jul 2, 2011, 6:51:05 AM7/2/11
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my bad luck... my bike is in service... is anybody going from BEL circle not by bicycle plz let me knw ...

Nalla P Konar

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Jul 4, 2011, 2:12:03 AM7/4/11
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Thanks to BOTS, Nelly and Iggy for the wonderful session.
I was enriched by it and did improve on my DH skills.
During last year's BBCh I fell twice in the first lap and lost confidence and ran down with the bike in the 2nd lap.
But yesterday due to Nelly's expert guidance, i did it in one shot without any fall.

Nelly split the session into three parts.
1st one was near the base i.e push for a few meters on top and descend the easy stretch by learning the controlling skills.
2nd one was bit tougher as we moved big higher and did the tricker sections.
3rd and final one was from all the way to the top i.e. near the Temple and come rolling down.

Pushing the bike from base till top takes about 15 to 20 mins.. but the DH ride till down takes <3 mins and is well worth the push to top :)
Iggy and Nelly does it in 1min 10 sec it seems.. crazy !!!!!!!!

Wohooo.. MTBing rocks :) DHing rocks !!!

Rgds,
Nalla.
Rider of Cleated Warriors - Bangalore Bicycle racing team
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Sreepathi Pai

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Jul 4, 2011, 3:48:41 AM7/4/11
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On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Nalla P Konar <nalla...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks to BOTS, Nelly and Iggy for the wonderful session.

+100.

Summary of the gyaan distributed by Nelly (what I remember, please add
if I've missed anything):

SADDLE AND POSITION:

1) Keep Saddle Low, as low as possible. Remove all extras from the
bike, mudguards, carriers, reflector lights, etc.

2) Do not sit on the saddle, keep standing on the bike during the
entire DH run. Keep centre of gravity low.

3) Do not be stiff on the bike, your arms and legs can act as extra
shock absorbers, so use them.

BRAKES:

4) Do not brake so hard that you lock your wheel and start skidding --
this destroys the trail and also means you've lost control. Feather
the brakes instead.

5) Brake in a 60% to front, 40% to back ratio. Never equal. Front
brake has more stopping power.

RIDING:

6) Always look where you want to go, not at your wheel or at the rock
that is intimidating you. If you look at a rock, your bike will go
towards the rock.

7) Take the smoothest line possible.

FALLING:

8) When falling, try to roll on impact, always separate from your bike.


> Iggy and Nelly does it in 1min 10 sec it seems.. crazy !!!!!!!!

+1

There's going to be another session next week, followed by trail maintenance.

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Sreepathi Pai

Deva R

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Jul 4, 2011, 4:56:00 AM7/4/11
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>> Thanks to BOTS, Nelly and Iggy for the wonderful session.
>+100.
+100 :)
had wonderful time.. a next level of MTB ride for me.
blazing on a that insane downhill with little control, is some rush :)

>> Iggy and Nelly does it in 1min 10 sec it seems.. crazy !!!!!!!!
>+1
+1
like Nelly said, they gave us no excuse to not to try downhill :) 

>hit BumsOnTheSaddle for an inspiring Video Session to learn more
we were counting crashes per minutes in that video.. :) 
everyones' faces were like "oww...", "ouch..", "what the ..","mother of jesus.." :D 
those riders are from differnt world :)


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Regards,
Deva

RT

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Jul 4, 2011, 5:49:44 AM7/4/11
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Thanks a TON for sharing those tips from the session with us.

I had to miss it since I was down with the flu and was feeling rather
irritated about it. My 1000 is getting quite impatient being kept
indoors and in the basement. I need to HTFU and get out next weekend
(TOUCH-ALOTTAFRIGGIN-WOOD!)


On Jul 4, 12:48 pm, Sreepathi Pai <sree...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mayank Rungta

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Jul 4, 2011, 6:14:54 AM7/4/11
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> Summary of the gyaan distributed by Nelly (what I remember, please add
> if I've missed anything):
>
> SADDLE AND POSITION:
>
> 1) Keep Saddle Low, as low as possible. Remove all extras from the
> bike, mudguards, carriers, reflector lights, etc.
>
> 2) Do not sit on the saddle, keep standing on the bike during the
> entire DH run. Keep centre of gravity low.
>
> 3) Do not be stiff on the bike, your arms and legs can act as extra
> shock absorbers, so use them.
>
> BRAKES:
>
> 4) Do not brake so hard that you lock your wheel and start skidding --
> this destroys the trail and also means you've lost control. Feather
> the brakes instead.
>
> 5) Brake in a 60% to front, 40% to back ratio. Never equal. Front
> brake has more stopping power.
>
> RIDING:
>
> 6) Always look where you want to go, not at your wheel or at the rock
> that is intimidating you. If you look at a rock, your bike will go
> towards the rock.
>
> 7) Take the smoothest line possible.
>
> FALLING:
>
> 8) When falling, try to roll on impact, always separate from your bike.
>
>
Thanks for sharing this. I missed the session as we were lost locating
the place.

>> Iggy and Nelly does it in 1min 10 sec it seems.. crazy !!!!!!!!
> +1
>
> There's going to be another session next week, followed by trail maintenance.
>
Ouch going to miss this one! :(

nilesh dhumal

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Jul 4, 2011, 12:14:24 PM7/4/11
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Dear Riders

Its was really nice to see all of you doing the Dh trail and more importantly having fun riding it, it was our pleasure to help you all riders ride better and be safe while pushing the limits,

Some more Points/ Precautions in addition. to what Nalla and Pai mentioned earlier.

I see people riding bikes without shoes which is dangerous while riding DH your legs may slip off the pedals which may lead to crash sometimes even a nut cracker :-) 

We may not allow this at the race day, its for your own safety.

Protection is necessary!!! Try get what you can (Elbow/Keen Pads, Good Helmets , Gloves, Shoes...)

Least Is Helmet, Gloves Shoes.

Also please Note:

Remove the clipless pedals for the race especially when you are new to the DH riding

Always Look back at the trail while you are climbing up, and remember the trail sections so that you know where you are going, this prepares your mind to do it smoother.(optional faster, safer..).

Remember to push yourself accordingly the more the protected you are faster you can ride
also Bike limitations Full-Sus has more power compared to Hard-tail bikes with less suspension travel only in the front.  

Stay safe to ride another day 

See you at the trail.... Nelly
 

Deva R

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Jul 6, 2011, 3:53:11 AM7/6/11
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Few videos from DH workshop (via arvind,nelli :) )

Nelly instructing riders www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUtefrLXeNs 
Turahalli downhill workshop #1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8t3i_7iZfo
Turahalli downhill workshop #2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDwSxxA-Yk
Harsha going down Turahalli www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy-btHjgqGQ
Nilesh on trail - POV ride www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEH4LZC1cw

--
Regards,
Deva

Amarpreet Kalkat

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Jul 6, 2011, 6:23:20 AM7/6/11
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"8) When falling, try to roll on impact, always separate from your bike."
I am guessing the try to roll here means "Let the bike go, but try to slide instead of trying to get up" 

Rolling over by itself usually ends up giving broken collarbones, u dont want to do that...

Kalkat

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Deva R <r.de...@gmail.com> wrote:
Few videos from DH workshop (via arvind,nelli :) )

Nelly instructing riders www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUtefrLXeNs 
Turahalli downhill workshop #1 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8t3i_7iZfo
Turahalli downhill workshop #2 www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDwSxxA-Yk
Harsha going down Turahalli www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy-btHjgqGQ
Nilesh on trail - POV ride www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEH4LZC1cw

On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 9:44 PM, nilesh dhumal <nilesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Riders

Its was really nice to see all of you doing the Dh trail and more importantly having fun riding it, it was our pleasure to help you all riders ride better and be safe while pushing the limits,

Some more Points/ Precautions in addition. to what Nalla and Pai mentioned earlier.

I see people riding bikes without shoes which is dangerous while riding DH your legs may slip off the pedals which may lead to crash sometimes even a nut cracker :-) 

We may not allow this at the race day, its for your own safety.

Protection is necessary!!! Try get what you can (Elbow/Keen Pads, Good Helmets , Gloves, Shoes...)

Least Is Helmet, Gloves Shoes.

Also please Note:

Remove the clipless pedals for the race especially when you are new to the DH riding

Always Look back at the trail while you are climbing up, and remember the trail sections so that you know where you are going, this prepares your mind to do it smoother.(optional faster, safer..).

Remember to push yourself accordingly the more the protected you are faster you can ride
also Bike limitations Full-Sus has more power compared to Hard-tail bikes with less suspension travel only in the front.  

Stay safe to ride another day 

See you at the trail.... Nelly
 

-- 
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Matthew North

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Jul 6, 2011, 10:35:51 AM7/6/11
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Is anyone going this Sunday? Have been in bangalore a while but mostly
done the Nandi Hills downhill, but this track looks fun so will check
it out.

On Jul 6, 6:23 am, Amarpreet Kalkat <kal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "8) When falling, try to roll on impact, always separate from your bike."
> I am guessing the try to roll here means "Let the bike go, but try to slide
> instead of trying to get up"
>
> Rolling over by itself usually ends up giving broken collarbones, u dont
> want to do that...
>
> Kalkat
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Deva R <r.deva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Few videos from DH workshop (via arvind,nelli :) )
>
> > Nelly instructing riderswww.youtube.com/watch?v=sUtefrLXeNs
> > Turahalli downhill workshop #1www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8t3i_7iZfo
> > Turahalli downhill workshop #2www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDwSxxA-Yk
> > Harsha going down Turahalliwww.youtube.com/watch?v=xy-btHjgqGQ
> > Nilesh on trail - POV ridewww.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEH4LZC1cw
>
> > Travelomy <http://www.travelomy.com/>: simplify your travel.

Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar

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Jul 6, 2011, 12:37:27 PM7/6/11
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We have a trail maintenance session planed for sunday. U can join

Rohan Kini

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Jul 6, 2011, 1:56:10 PM7/6/11
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Everyone who is gonna race on 17th needs to have tried the DH route atleast once ! 
If you dont not only do you put yourself at risk of having a fall, but you might put the ride behind you at risk too.

So, please do plan to give the DH a try this weekend if possible. 

It helps that its loads of fun :) 

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Akshay Prabhu Gaonkar <akshaypra...@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a trail maintenance session planed for sunday. U can join
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