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Fantastic idea Suman. ..
May be good if one of the engines is mounted with a go pro.
All the best to engine and coaches...
lol....also click photos for blog write up and for FB....
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Lol epic funny macha ;)
I so badly wish I could be a part of this but alas average pace does not qualify me ;) ;)...
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So, that puts us at 6:53 hours.
i too was thinking about it....
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What's the weather like, guys? And did they start on time?
/Prashanth
i think they started 6 minutes late.
quite hot....
how many of them....super show
Who were the two?
/Prashanth
Two reached after not stopping for either breakfast or lunch. Atleast they met the R60 criteria.
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We don't ride distances, we ride routes (or something like that which Chiddu/someone said long back)Welcome to the awesome Super slow train, anyone who wants to be a part of this train, please ensure that you have the right attitude and energy to complete the 200k taking every minute of the allotted 13.5 hours... Anyone finishing before that will have their tires flattened (cycle tires, not the waist)This is the kind of breakup I'm expecting if I'm to finish exactly at 7.30 PM. Sharing it just so that whoever joins the train knows what we are upto :-)
0 - 81.25 km
An average of 2 idlis, one wada per hour, with filter coffee and cutting chai alternate hours.Some nice roadside hotels could increase our average to 2 vadas per hour also.
81.25 - 148.5 km
And average of 1 rice bath per hour, and sugar cane juice / tender coconut every hour. If we see some nice roadside hotel serving full meals (unlimited banana leaf saapad), we might stop for it and take a nap too.
148.5 - 204 km
An average of 2 bondas, 1 tea and 3 paruppu-vadas per hour.
So, that puts about 3 kgs at the end of the ride.
Looks extremely easy target for me considering that we will face obstacles in a few places, like vada not being fresh/hot. But it will be a very comfortable target if there are at least few good riders who can eat well and create the demand for the shop keeper to prepare fresh vada.
See you all tomorrow morning.
PS: Opendro is my good friend, so am not pulling his leg. Am actually serious for a change.
On Friday, October 31, 2014 4:15:19 PM UTC+5:30, Opendro wrote:
This is the kind of breakup I'm expecting if I'm to finish in 6:45. Sharing it just so that whoever joins the train knows what we are upto :-)
0 - 81.25 km
An average of 35 kmph or 2:20 hours. Some downhills sections could touch 80. I suggest that we maintain a close paceline only on the flat and uphills. We should maintain good distance on the downhills. 5 mins to be spent in different ATMs to save time. We are expected to have consumed a little more than a litre of water. If possible, try to refill one of the bottles quickly.
81.25 - 148.5 km
An average of 27 kmph or 2:30 hours. We will lose about a couple of mins at 136.3 km for a selfie control. We should paceline as close as possible. We should have stopped for 5 minutes at an appropriate water refill place where we could also take some bites of the snacks that we would be carrying. Another 5 minutes for the ATM control. If the line is long, a faster group will break away about 5 km before the control and get the ATM slip to reduce crowd outside ATM and save time.
148.5 - 204 km
An average of 31 kmph or 1:46 hours. Hopefully, we will wriggle out of the Saturday noon traffic to average this.
So, that puts us at 6:53 hours.
Looks extremely steep target for me considering that we will face obstacles in a few places. But it will be a very comfortable target if there are at least 5 strong riders who can pull in the front and another 5 who can contribute a couple of minutes every 20 minutes.
See you all tomorrow morning.
On Thursday, October 30, 2014 11:01:27 AM UTC+5:30, Opendro wrote:Since we are expected to maintain at speeds over 30 most of the time, it would be better if everyone spends some time googling for "paceline etiquette", learn some basic "do's" and "dont's" so that we get the maximum benefit of the train and be safe at the same time.
Just a summary:
- be predictable
- ride/pedal smooth
- accelerate or decelerate steadily. Use of brake should be at the minimum or it should be at such amount that the rider behind won't even realize. Recommended way is to pedal easy and be more upright to use wind resistance. If you are trying to bridge a gap, it should be done again at very gentle acceleration so that the riders behind will get time to respond. Again, ease the acceleration gently to avoid over-bridging and overlapping of the wheel in the front.
- it is better if you don't stand and pedal simply because it causes your pedaling not-smooth and rider behind will experience sudden acceleration and slowing down for every stroke at 3 O clock (max power) and 6 O clock (dead spot).
- if you get flat, don't jam brake. Be calm, warn others, pull out of the line.
- don't stop pedaling even if you think you are rolling too much. Rather, ease the pedaling. Stopping pedaling every now and then causes irregular pace and difficult for the rider behind to be close to your wheel.
- if you are in the lead, announce any warning or obstacles such as other vehicles, cattle, speed breakers, bad patches of roads etc.
I usually pedal even while sipping water to make the rider behind easier. But for your own safety, increase the gap by an extra feet or so if you plan to sip as you would be riding in one hand.
I'm honestly hoping that this is going to work even if it is your first time.
Looking forward to it. One and a half more days to go :-)
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 11:39:27 AM UTC+5:30, Opendro wrote:A few of us in the Cleated Warriors team are planning to target the Kottai 200K in 50% of the cutoff at finish control, which will be an average of 30 kmph including time control stops and water refill.
Why am I announcing it here?
I wouldn't mind a longer train and would be even happier if there are riders who can share the pull in the lead. Even if you want to just hang on, that is also fine. But this train will not wait for anyone in case of mechanical failures or punctures. We will however spend 5 to 10 minutes in ATM controls and 2 minutes in selfie control. Another 5 minutes of stop to refill water.
If you want to join the train, this is what I suggest : eat full meals at 5 AM and optionally pack an easy-to-eat snacks or mini meals that you can eat during the ride without having to stop. We can slow down the train to 25 kmph for a brief 10 minutes for the purpose at around 9:30 AM. If you have stocks of GU energy gel or something equivalent - then great.
It has been my desire to achieve higher average during long distance rides. 200K is the best distance to try and gain some experience before we attempt longer distances.
What do we get by doing this?
Nothing. We will at least have one more reason to come and ride brevets. Additionally we can brag as we would be beating Vivek Radhakrishnan, Craig and Gaurav Dwivedi of the 2011 (http://www.bangalorebrevets.in/past-seasons/2011-season/old-results/) and then target Samim's time of 300K and Vishal's time of 600K and again Vishal/Dipankar's time of 1000K (http://rrbmgr.appspot.com/bb/belgaum-1000/results/ and https://brevetmgr.appspot.com/brevet/june2014-1000/results).
Do you have the hunger in your legs? Then please come on time this Saturday :)
| From: Sandeep Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 14:35 Cc: Bangalore Bikers Club Subject: Re: [BBC] The Kottai Super Slow Train on 1st Nov |
Will see if I can make it to the end point around the designated end time to meet some of the riders.
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Rode with sunil parag mudit from rayakottai, we rode steady with breaks including a picnic lunch of hand plucked tamarind. Noted that at least 3other villages ended in kottai
Reached end control little after 5,and saw goats balancing on sheer cliffs, it was fun
About 55 finishers I think.
This is the route for 200k... Killer climbs.
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| From: R Venkatachalam Sent: Saturday, 1 November 2014 19:35 To: berkeleydb |
Subject: Re: [BBC] The Kottai Super Slow Train on 1st Nov |
| From: Chidambaran Subramanian Sent: Sunday, 2 November 2014 09:27 To: berkeleydb Cc: Bangalore Bikers Club |
As Venkatachalam already posted -- he was riding the bike as a single speed. Fixie would have been super intense. :). No way the bogies would have gone past the engine on downhills, then.
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Did you switch to the freewheel cog for the downhill section or did you use it all the way?
/Prashanth
No Chiddu... I chickened and out a freewheel cog... :)
It was freewheel throughout. The previous day, I had got a cheap 100 rupees 18t cog from a Roadside cycle shop. 42-18 was the combination.
For anchetty, this ratio would be killing...
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On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 2:00 PM, berkeleydb <dha...@gmail.com> wrote:Chiddu -- Kokum juice is my favorite. :) Where is it available in Bangalore; what is Kokum called in Kannada? I have asked for Kokum is some places, they don't seem to get what I'm referring to. Would love to carry it on my rides... a super thirst quencher.
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Shenoy stores... Cool. Not too far from the BOTS store I see on the map. :)
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On 2 Nov 2014 15:29, "berkeleydb" <dha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well... food and cycling go together,
Cant agree more :)
so about time. :) So looks like one can pick up some good snacks too for cycle rides, at Shenoy stores. :)
Shenoy stores sell atleast half a dozen type of chikki, antinunde(a laddoo woth chikki ingredients & jaggery)etc...
Cocum squish is available in many supermarkets. I just got one yesterday at mk ahmed...
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Speed and enjoying the beauty of the route need not be, mutually exclusive. :-)
I had 1/4th of an egg puff, one piece Dil Pasand and a 200ml packet of curd + 2 protein bars solid food
2 liters of Kokum juice, 1 liter of diluted electral + gatorade , about 500ml Maaza and 1/2 liter of water
-- this was my nutrition for the day till end of ride.
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CHiddu..whats the protein bar you eat?
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Sent: 02 November 2014 19:49
To: Sandeep
Cc: Bangalore Bikers Club
Subject: Re: [BBC] The Kottai Super Slow Train on 1st Nov
My (unstated) goal for the ride was to ride only on protein bars + liquid nutrition that I carried. I wanted to top up liquid if what i carried did not suffice. I (mostly) succeeded, with only the 1/4th Dilpasand + 1/4th egg puff breaking the monotony of what I ate (and these two were not for the nutrition, but for the taste -- i was getting sick of the protein bars and the gatorade + electral that I carried)
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@Chiddu, you're just biased ;) As far as I remember, you're not
exactly a slow rider either. Finally, as Venky said, speed and
enjoyment are not exactly exclusive. As Velocio put it:
Chiddu,
What you wrote below here is upper limit or lower limit?
Hahaha.. That was anything but boring. Too bad you missed seeing your grandfather! :-P
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