[BBC] Great news about the road to Manchanabele and plan for this weekend.

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Hi Guys, I have great news. They finally paved (or tar'ed) the road between Manchanabele Dam and Byalalu (ISRO space station). I have had several miserable rides with several of your in the last 2 years. It was particularly bad on my last trip with Arun D'Silva, Pramod Bharadwaj, Anke, Sagar, and a few others. I saw it for myself as I was returning back from Savandurga this afternoon. This road is calling out to cyclists. How about a ride on this weekend? I am thinking: Merida Junction > Harohalli > Manchinabele Dam (after crossing Mysore road carefully) > Hejjala > Merida Junction. Should be a measly 100kms.

Any one want to join?

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[Sudhir P]

isnt bbch on this weekend?

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[Chidambaran Subramanian]

Sunday. Hopefully there is some water left.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Guys, I have great news. They finally paved (or tar'ed) the road between Manchanabele Dam and Byalalu (ISRO space station). I have had several miserable runides with several of your in the last 2 years. It was particularly bad on my last trip with Arun D'Silva, Pramod Bharadwaj, Anke, Sagar, and a few others. I saw it for myself as I was returning back from Savandurga this afternoon. This road is calling out to cyclists. How about a ride on this weekend? I am thinking: Merida Junction > Harohalli > Manchinabele Dam (after crossing Mysore road carefully) > Hejjala > Merida Junction. Should be a measly 100kms.

Any one want to join?

--
biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
 
are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
Visit www.bangalorebicyclechampionships.com for more details

[poorna chandra]

Hi,

Yes, this is true, A few of us rode to Savandurga tommorow early
morning from Bangalore University Jnanabharathi campus, on April 30th
and the route which we took was
Bangalore University -> Mata Amrithananda Ashram -> Kengeri Club ->
Over
Nice road bridge -> Sulekere Lake
-> Ramasandra -> Big Banyan Tree -> Manchinabele Dam -> Savandurga

Now the road is in very good shape for the entire stretch. You all
can have a Great time cycling. I will try to make it again if this is
planned

Poorna

On May 11, 9:21 am, Chidambaran Subramanian <chi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sunday. Hopefully there is some water left.
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Guys, I have great news. They finally paved (or tar'ed) the road between
> > Manchanabele Dam and Byalalu (ISRO space station). I have had several
> > miserable runides with several of your in the last 2 years. It was
> > particularly bad on my last trip with Arun D'Silva, Pramod Bharadwaj, Anke,
> > Sagar, and a few others. I saw it for myself as I was returning back from
> > Savandurga this afternoon. This road is calling out to cyclists. How about a
> > ride on this weekend? I am thinking: Merida Junction > Harohalli >
> > Manchinabele Dam (after crossing Mysore road carefully) > Hejjala > Merida
> > Junction. Should be a measly 100kms.
>
> > Any one want to join?
>
> > --
> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

>
> --
> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

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[Indrajit wahi]

Hi All,

This seems to be very interesting. hope to have my first long ride.

Keep posted

Indra

> > > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details

>
> > --
> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

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[Yogesh N. Rao]

Ok, let's plan this for the weekend after May 23rd, i.e. the weekend after Sunfeast World 10k.

Hope to see you all BBCh on this Sunday and at the Kanteerava Stadium on the following weekend for the 10k.

Go Bangalore!

[Abhijit Kshirsagar]

Finally!

Abhijit K

[meetbadri]

Our last ride to Savandurga 2 weeks ago was via the same route and the
road is narrow and new .. A beautiful and tireless ride till Big
Banyan Tree with zero traffic from Bangalore University campus early
in the morning was FANTASTIC.

The roads are all good throughout till Manchanabele Dam.

cheers,
Badri

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Badri, can you please send us the route you took from Bangalore University to Manchanabele dam? Was it Mysore road up until Rajeshwari Dental college? I hate riding on Mysore road or for that matter on any highways. Love the small little roads that cut across villages. I still fondly remember the road we took from Magadi Road to Manchanabele dam on one of our Month-end long rides.

[Sunil PV (ಸುನಿಲ್)]

Yogesh, refer my mail posted last week ... it has the greenest route through Mata Amritanandamayee Ashram ...

 

You wont touch Mysore road 'at all'

 

since I dont have the map with me, can chat up in the evening !

 

Sunil

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Great Malnad Challenge - 2010 : 23rd Oct to 31st Oct 2010

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Sounds good Sunil. Would you be kind enough to map the route on www.mapmyride.com or a similar site? It would help anyone looking for  a long ride in the Bangalore rural area. I would love to chat with you this evening.

2010/5/12 Sunil PV (ಸುನಿಲ್) <sun...@gmail.com>

[smreddy]

I will be interested to join this ride. could be my first long ride as
well.

Basically i am located in Hanumanthanagar.

Srinath

On May 12, 9:29 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good Sunil. Would you be kind enough to map the route onwww.mapmyride.comor a similar site? It would help anyone looking for  a

> long ride in the Bangalore rural area. I would love to chat with you this
> evening.
>

> 2010/5/12 Sunil PV (ಸುನಿಲ್) <suni...@gmail.com>

>
>
>
>
>
> > Yogesh, refer my mail posted last week ... it has the greenest route
> > through Mata Amritanandamayee Ashram ...
>
> > You wont touch Mysore road 'at all'
>
> > since I dont have the map with me, can chat up in the evening !
>
> > Sunil
>
> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Badri, can you please send us the route you took from Bangalore University
> >> to Manchanabele dam? Was it Mysore road up until Rajeshwari Dental college?
> >> I hate riding on Mysore road or for that matter on any highways. Love the
> >> small little roads that cut across villages. I still fondly remember the
> >> road we took from Magadi Road to Manchanabele dam on one of our Month-end
> >> long rides.
>

> >> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM, meetbadri <meetba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Our last ride to Savandurga 2 weeks ago was via the same route and the
> >>> road is narrow and new .. A beautiful and tireless ride till Big
> >>> Banyan Tree with zero traffic from Bangalore University campus early
> >>> in the morning was FANTASTIC.
>
> >>> The roads are all good throughout till Manchanabele Dam.
>
> >>> cheers,
> >>> Badri
>
> >>> --
> >>>   biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >>> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> >>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

>
> >> --
> >> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> >> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> >> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

>
> > --
> > TandemTrails - The Road Less Taken
> >http://tandemtrails.co.in
>
> > Great Malnad Challenge - 2010 : 23rd Oct to 31st Oct 2010
>
> --
> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

[Jagan]

Is this ride still on or has it been ditched for the month end nandi
ride?

On May 12, 10:11 am, smreddy <srinathmre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I will be interested to join this ride. could be my first long ride as
> well.
>
> Basically i am located in Hanumanthanagar.
>
> Srinath
>
> On May 12, 9:29 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>

> > Sounds good Sunil. Would you be kind enough to map the route onwww.mapmyride.comora similar site? It would help anyone looking for  a

> > >>> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details

>
> > >> --
> > >> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > >> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> > >> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details

>
> > > --
> > > TandemTrails - The Road Less Taken
> > >http://tandemtrails.co.in
>
> > > Great Malnad Challenge - 2010 : 23rd Oct to 31st Oct 2010
>
> > --
> > biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> > are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?

> > Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comformore details

>
> --
> biking conversations on the world famous "Bangalore Bikers Club" :)
>
> are you a part of the bicycle racing scene?
> Visitwww.bangalorebicyclechampionships.comfor more details

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[Yogesh N. Rao]

Jagan, No, this route has not been ditched (atleast, not yet). How about we plan to do this on Saturday? That way, we will not mess with the BBCh schedule. Please respond with a +1 if you are coming.

I propose the following:
Starting/Ending point: Bangalore University @ Jnana Bharathi on Mysore University (Anyone know if there is parking available for folks coming from other parts of the town?)
Route:: Manchinabele reservoir (and a dip over there), Savandurga (Thatte idly), Magadi Fort, and back
Start time: 6am?
Please carry money, hydration, and a spare tube.



Nandi ride will be HUGE. Lots of participants. I am not sure how many will show up for this ride.

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Small correction: That's Mysore Road and not Mysore University.

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jagan, No, this route has not been ditched (atleast, not yet). How about we plan to do this on Saturday? That way, we will not mess with the BBCh schedule. Please respond with a +1 if you are coming.

I propose the following:

Starting/Ending point: Bangalore University @ Jnana Bharathi on Mysore Road (Anyone know if there is parking available for folks coming from other parts of the town?)

[Jagan]

I'm in for the ride on Saturday. So, it is

1. Yogesh
2. Jagan

Who else?

On May 13, 9:59 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Small correction: That's Mysore Road and not Mysore University.
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Jagan, No, this route has not been ditched (atleast, not yet). How about we
> > plan to do this on Saturday? That way, we will not mess with the BBCh
> > schedule. Please respond with a +1 if you are coming.
>
> > I propose the following:
> > Starting/Ending point: Bangalore University @ Jnana Bharathi on Mysore Road
> > (Anyone know if there is parking available for folks coming from other parts
> > of the town?)
> > Route:: Manchinabele reservoir (and a dip over there), Savandurga (Thatte
> > idly), Magadi Fort, and back
> > Start time: 6am?
> > Please carry money, hydration, and a spare tube.
>
> > Nandi ride will be HUGE. Lots of participants. I am not sure how many will
> > show up for this ride.
>

> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Jagan <jaganm1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Is this ride still on or has it been ditched for the month end nandi
> >> ride?
>
> >> On May 12, 10:11 am, smreddy <srinathmre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I will be interested to join this ride. could be my first long ride as
> >> > well.
>
> >> > Basically i am located in Hanumanthanagar.
>
> >> > Srinath
>
> >> > On May 12, 9:29 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > > Sounds good Sunil. Would you be kind enough to map the route

> >> onwww.mapmyride.comorasimilar site? It would help anyone looking for  a

[thetwilightdance]

How long will this take? I have the "lamb of god" concert to attend as
well :)

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[Yogesh N. Rao]

Not sure...still need to finalize the route.

Sunil, does this like the right route?

Thanks,
Yogesh.

[thetwilightdance]

+1

On May 13, 11:29 am, "Yogesh N. Rao" <yna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not sure...still need to finalize the route.
>

> Sunil, does this<http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=mariyappana+palya+bd...>like

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[Ranjan Kulkarni]

+1

I am up for it too, It would be a nice shakedown for the Month end Nandi ride.

[smreddy]

+1

How many kms will this ride be ? Want to make sure if i can, as this
will be my first long ride :)

--Srinath

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[Shreyas Kumar]

I want to join, but cant :( Can this happen during the first week of
June instead :)

This weekend is BBCh, next is Sunfeast 10k an after that I am out of
station and will be back with a new bike on 30th, so after that
pleaseeeeeeeeeee

Regards
Shreyas

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[Yogesh N. Rao]

BBCh is on Sunday. We are planning this ride on Saturday.

[Sunil PV (ಸುನಿಲ್)]

this is fine ... other route we generally take is to go through Komghatta lake -> Sulekere Village / tavarakere road ..

 

 

Sunil

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Dear Friends, I won't be able to make it to the ride tomorrow. I have some personal committments at 10am and will have to be satisfied with a short run. Please don't let that stop you. You have the Google maps starting from Bangalore University. I hope you can go ahead and finish the ride. I look forward to reading the ride report.

Thx

2010/5/13 Sunil PV (ಸುನಿಲ್) <sun...@gmail.com>

[Jagannath Moorthy]

No problem Yogesh. I will be going anyway, as it is the last weekend that I can do a long ride, babysitting duties resume from next week:-)

For people who are interested, I suggest that we start off from the Bangalore University gate on Mysore road at 6:30 am (6 is too early as that is almost an hour away from many places in bangalore).

my number: 9986702840

2010/5/14 Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>

[Ranjan Kulkarni]

It is a pity Yogesh that you couldn't make it. Hopefully will be able to meet you in some other rides in the future.

I am still up for this. I will see you Jagannath at 6.30 tomorrow near the Bangalore gate entrance.

My number(s) : 8951965506, 9482525876

2010/5/14 Jagannath Moorthy <jagan...@gmail.com>

[Ranjan Kulkarni]

Where are thou all? :) . Been waiting for 10 mins near b'lore uni..
Leaving in 5. If u all have left already then ride along. Hope to
join u all there.

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[Yogesh N. Rao]

How was the ride guys? Hope you had fun and took some pictures.

2010/5/15 Ranjan Kulkarni <ranjank...@gmail.com>

[Ranjan Kulkarni]

Jagannath and myself rode to Savanadurga and back. I'll be writing a small travelogue later.

2010/5/17 Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>

[Ranjan Kulkarni]

I am sorry if its a bit long but here goes

The Ride to Savanadurga was an experience I'd never forget. Being the first long distance ride for me, it felt like it was a fight against attrition, and at the fag end of the ride I was exhausted and felt as if I had just completed a stage in a Tour De France competiton. Ironically, I realised the stage had already been won before it even started when I met Jagannath near the Big Banyaan tree all cladded well in the Yellow Jersey!

I reached  Bangalore University, the meeting point of ours, at around 6.35 AM.  To my witness, I found noone. I thought may be there was a little chance afterall for people to congregrate and leave in the space of 5 minutes, either that or everyone has legged the idea itself of actually going. But I made sure I waited for 10 more minutes. I had forgetten the previous night to note one number that was left on the forum which was of Jagannath's. I quickly browsed the internet and got his number and dialed immediately. I couldn't get hold of him at that instance. I waited for another 5 minutes to see if anyone showed up, to see if I could spot a clockwise motion of legs pedalling through but to no avail. I said **** it, I'll go alone if I had to. I started off on my own at 6.55 AM.

By the time I reached Rajarajeshwari Hospital, i got a call from Jagannath. He told me that he had already reached Dodda Alada Mara and confirmed that he was alone. He told me he would wait for me there and so he did.
We started acquainting with each other as we rode along. He told me that he had already done this route in 2008 and that he had also conqureed Nandi. He suggested we'd follow the route Yogesh had in mind before he had to drop out, the route to Savanadurga through Manchanabele.

The roads till Manchanabele were just fine and had been re-laid. Further up the route towards Savanadurga there were a number of potholes which are to be expected I guess being a hilly area and all that. I'd made a couple of mistakes. One was not wearing a helmet  and the other was not to buy a pair of gloves. I still have numbness in my right palm after surviving through many potholes. I've now got it through my thick head that having cycling gear is as important as having a cycle itself.

We did face obstacles along the way particularly while coming back. We took the route towards Magadi. Jagannath put it succinctly when he said it was his accumulated karma that put him in this predicament. He suffered a pinch flat near Vardenahalli, if my memory serves me right. One more lesson I learnt or I am sure Jagannath won't  mind when I say we learnt was that we ought to have a puncture kit on us at all times. We found that there were hardly any shops near by where he suffered the said flat. Somehow, after 2 hours of hitchhiking a bike, hanging off the footboard of a bus, we managed to get it repaired. Little did we know that it wouldn't be the end of our ordeal.

It was 2.30 PM in the afternoon and after a long ride through numerous undulated roads, we decided to take a break very close to Kengeri Satellite Town. We were sitting infront of a sign pole which said "40", the speed limit set for that road. A part of me was giggling inside and made a smart arse remark, "are you kidding me?, I would give anything to go at that speed, as long as it gets us to our home right now". It puts into perspective of how we take speed for granted. There are people who are crazy for speed and yet here we were on our tiring part of the journey trying to hit 20kms/hr let alone 40kms/hr to get through. After 5 minutes of rest, we decided to hop on our saddle and ride towards the final part of our journey, back to our respective homes. Glancing at the back tyre Jagannath felt the pressure. To our dismay we found it was deflated.... AGAIN. With the scorching mid afternoon sun over us we began to walk our bikes towards civilization. After walking for about 2-3 kms, we found a cycle shop atlast. We gulped down a bottle of nimbo fresh apiece from a nearby bakery which energized our drained batteries for one last push. We finally parted ways in Kengeri as I was heading towards Nagarbhavi, a very short distance compared to what Jagannath was attempting to, all the way to HSR layout a further grueling 20 kms or so.
All in all it was a pleasure to ride with Jagannath and the satisfication I gained from this ride was immense. The ride should put me in good stead if I were to try Nandi, although I realise it may require twice the effort. Next time if you see a bloke with a helmet, gloves on and with a puncture kit ofcourse, on a Schwinn Sporterra, that should be me!.

Some pictures I took along the way -> http://picasaweb.google.com/ranjankulkarni/Savanadurga#

2010/5/17 Ranjan Kulkarni <ranjank...@gmail.com>

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Ranjan, Looks like you and Jagannath had a very exciting ride.

Flats always happen at a very bad place. There's nothing like preparation. This is one of the BIG reason I prefer riding in a group or at least with one other person. There's nothing more comforting than having another person you can lean on at hard times.

From experience, I have learnt that it is wise to keep at least one spare tube that you can replace quickly if you have a flat. I prefer paying the Rs.10 it costs to fix a flat even if I carry a puncture repair kit. My biggest unknown at this time is to find out the puncture spots.

~~ Yogesh.

2010/5/18 Ranjan Kulkarni <ranjank...@gmail.com>

[Georg Leuzinger]

Hi Yogesh,
what do you mean by finding out the puncture spots ? its easy, move
the inflated bare tube in fornt of your lips and nose, or other most
sensitive areas and you will immediately come to know where it hisses
out, or the water test, keeping the tube under water and check for the
bubbling(a mug will do, not much is needed)
is that what you meant?
unless the puncture is a t a very delicate spot like near the valve
stem it is easy and takes just 5 minutes to patch the puncture.
Georg

2010/5/18 Yogesh N. Rao <yna...@gmail.com>:

[Yogesh N. Rao]

Georg, Oh well! Punctures always happen at the most inconvenient place and time. I cannot use the water check (which is the best) because I cannot find a bucket (because there's no one in the place where I have had the flat). Even if you have water, you cannot pour water over the tube to check for flat because the tube does not get wet (the water just flows away).

I have tried feeling for puncture using lips, but am always uncertain if I have found all the punctures and fixed them all. I have also had terrible luck with puncture kits because I have found that the glue (or cement) is dry when I need it the most and the patches won't stick with the glue that they already have on them :-(

Hence, always end up carrying a spare tube :-( More importantly, I need to practice fixing flats.

~~ Yogesh.

2010/5/18 Georg Leuzinger <gk....@gmail.com>