5ive New Salinger Volumes in 5ive Years?

[Tom Sutpen]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/25/new-jd-salinger-books-_n_3813081.html?utm_hp_ref=books

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T. Sutpen

[Levano]

Thanks T. Sutpen,

for the link.

Did not see the movie, because I am hesitant, but I did read this
(http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/02/salinger-the-documentary-on-reclusive-author-j-d-salinger-premieres-at-telluride.html):

I was wondering if someone on the list can fill me in on the trustworthiness of these 'titles'... ?

"Without further ado, here are the titles of Salinger’s unpublished works, as revealed in the documentary:

A Counterintelligence Agent’s Diary

This book is based on Salinger’s time serving in the counterintelligence division when he interrogated prisoners of war during the final months of World War II.

A World War II Love Story

This book is based on Salinger’s brief marriage to Sylvia, a Nazi collaborator, just following World War II.

A Religious Manual

This book concerns Salinger’s adherence to Ramakrishna’s Advaita Vedanta Hinduism, which he found later in life.

The Complete Chronicle of the Glass Family

This book contains five new short stories about his recurring character Seymour Glass.

“The Last and Best of the Peter Pans”

This short story was written by Salinger in 1962, and tells another tale from the perspective of Holden Caulfield, the protagonist of The Catcher in the Rye."

BYE BYE!

2013/8/25 Tom Sutpen <toms...@gmail.com>

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/25/new-jd-salinger-books-_n_3813081.html?utm_hp_ref=books

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[Beth Kienle-Granzo]

Yes, this is what is shown/revealed in the last 2 minutes of the film.  They preface by saying it had been confirmed by two independent sources.  I don't know that those were all intended to be titles though.  When watching the film I interpreted them as summaries more so than titles (except for the Peter Pan one).

[James Rovira]

Isn't the Peter Pan story part of the Princeton archives?

Jim

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[Michael Anello]

Can't wait to discuss new Salinger stories.

But, I'm not clear on what exactly it is that has been confirmed by these two anonymous independent sources.  The release schedule of 2015-2020?  The titles of these releases?  The existence of these releases?  I know for a fact that it has been confirmed by two anonymous independent sources that nothing is actually true until it is.  Believe me?  

And yes Jim, yes it is.

Hi y'all!

[James Rovira]

Thanks for responding, Michael. Do you recognize the other titles?

Jim

[Michael Anello]

Hell no.

[James Rovira]

Right. They don't sound like Salinger titles to me. Compare the first four titles to the last one:

1. dumb

2. dumb

3. dumb

4. boring

5. Interesting.

Jim

On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Michael Anello <michae...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hell no.

[Michael Anello]

According to that article, those first four are "books," 4 whole books, and the last a short story (that might be 20 pages long at the most if printed in large print).  My (singular, do the schizophrenic get two?) opinion is that this "news" is "most likely" BS to hype nothing else actually being news (to me, the public might not know a couple things if they haven't read Slawenski's end all be all).  Except I really truly hope that it's not BS.  I don't care what these 5 "things" are called.  I just want to read them.  Come January 1, 2016, I'm grabbing bricks and heading for some windows.  But by then, all the bucks will have been made.

[James Rovira]

My wild hope is that they're really untitled works that do in fact exist and that these dumb titles were added by the reporters. 

Jim R

[Chris Kubica]

I'm hoping for The Catcher in the Rye, Part II: Holden the Meat Packer.

That would be a joke.

Did y'all see the movie? I'm in it for like 5 seconds!!

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[Michael Anello]

Won't see the movie until it's free on t.v.  Jan 1 2014, right?

Whenever people say they hope something happens, I always ask to see their hands.

[Chris Kubica]

I'm kidding about a Catcher sequel. Holden is a character who should always and forever be 16. We know what will happen to him at age 40...the same thing that happens to all of us. You know?

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[Chris Kubica]

Yes, January, 2014 on PBS American Masters series.

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[James Rovira]

Here you go, Michael.

Jim

[Chris Kubica]

What the motherf*ck is that monstrosity? A bananafish??

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[Michael Anello]

Blobfish.  It's going extinct but it's ugly so who cares.  My bet is that it probably cures every single kind of sickness, just by kissing it.  Oh well.

[Chris Kubica]

Allow me to just say that I'm glad we're chatting on here again, all. Hi!

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[James Rovira]

Yep, it's a blobfish...

Jim

[Michael Anello]

It's nice, what the hell.  Just to bring it all back home to the topic at hand, I will be watching the movie for two reasons, both of which there is NO PROOF.  The five unpublished "works" coming out 2015-2020, and the testicle thing.  Those are the only two things I had no idea about.  Who is this person that says he has one testicle?  Will there be at least two anonymous independent sources?  Must see t.v. right there.

[Beth Kienle-Granzo]

I don't remember anything about his testicles in the film (maybe it's in the book?) ... It was actually pretty tasteful and balanced, and it seems they did all they could to not mention sex at all.  As for the unpublished "works," this wasn't really news, because I believe his daughter and others had reported files full of work with rules for publishing.  None of the summaries seemed far-fetched and they were shown in the last minutes of the film. The interviews with his friends/acquaintances were the best part for me. His children were all-but absent (except for a few tv interviews of his daughter promoting her book), which wasn't surprising (or unjustified), but I think their perspective could have fleshed out the portrait a bit more.  I would have also steered clear if I were them.  It's not the best film ever made, but I doubt anyone on this listserv would regret watching it.  I had more of a "shrug" reaction than a "shaking my head/finger" reaction.  There was very little "news" in this film at all, and didn't much change the portrait I had already painted in my imagination.  I rolled my eyes at the melodramatic score and "reenactments," and even "never before seen" stuff because it was pretty inconsequential, but my fanatic side is glad to have seen it. I also don't know why they bothered interviewing celebrities.  Definitely wait until its on PBS, because it's not worth the $ to see it on a larger screen.  I'm just a bit crazy like that, and I enjoy going to the movies.  I'm interested to know what you all think when you watch it.    

[Michael Anello]

So.  No testicle thing in the movie.  That pretty much eliminates my need to see it.  I wanted to watch what would happen on the screen when IT happened.  The dreaded spoken sentence.  "Because J. D. Salinger ONLY HAD ONE TESTICLE."  Hopefully the face of the narrator could have come onto the screen at that point and made a real big O face.  Cut to Chevy Chase explaining what the sentence "Everybody is a nun" means to him.  Am I being awful?  Yes.  I'm being awful.  I just want the unpublished "works" deal to be real.  And I'm just not feeling it.

[mike]

The following "works" will begin to be published in IRREGULAR installments starting BETWEEN 2015 and 2020.  In other words, the following works will BEGIN to be published in either 2016, 2017, 2018, or 2019.  Probably 2019, if ever.  Typical narcissistic Salinger.  Egotistically forcing his readership to have to stay alive another 6-7 years just to read more of his Vedanta bullshit.  What a dick!

THE FAMILY GLASS (book containing all Glass stories)

A book, containing all Glass stories (purportedly weighing 420lbs, costing $420, and bound entirely with hemp), will contain five new glass stories, mainly about Seymour, all narrated by Buddy.  The first four explore the thirty years leading up to Seymour's suicide, the very first being the 1926 party hotel lobby recruitment for It's A Wise Child.  The second details urine drinking and how to score pregnant and/or underage camp counselors, purportedly titled "FRESH HINDQUARTERS."  The third is about the strange Bananafish like habits of the Northern Reticulated Black Molly.  The fourth is an unfinished script for a new Indiana Jones movie.  The last story deals with Seymour's life after death, set entirely in heaven and comic sans font.

WWII LOVE STORY (story)

Based on Salinger's telepathic relationship with his first wife, Sylvia.  In this love story, Salinger's fictional counterpart (Sergeant X) meets, falls in love with, marries, Sylvia's fictional counterpart (Filthvia).  They share an intense and entirely imaginary love affair in WWII Germany.  The cover reportedly will be a painting of a testicle wearing a combat helmet, lipstick, and mustache.

A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AGENT'S DIARY DURING WWII (novella)

Culminating with the Holocaust, the entries take place in many different towns and cities and involve his interactions with civilians, soldiers struggling with the day to day horror of war, and children's feet (Re: this last, in one diary entry he describes witnessing Hemingway, with one shot, take both the feet right off a small German child.  It, evidently, shocked Salinger so much, shocked him to the very core, it made him, for the rest of his life, only love and want to write about, small German children).

VEDANTA MANUAL (manual)

Stories and fables in the form of a Vedanta manual.  The forward is an ancient Japanese koan: "What is the sound of one undescended teste?"

THE FAMILY CAULFIELD (book)

A re-imagined version of Salinger's 1942 unpublished work, "The Last and Best of the Peter Pans," will be collected WITH the other six Caulfield stories AS WELL AS NEW STORIES and also THE ENTIRE BOOK 'The Cather In The Rye' (will purportedly weigh as much as a standard telephone pole and will be bound entirely in macrobiotic hay that you can drink your own urine through).  The re-imagined version of his original 12 page story is now formatted to be 13 pages, and will be titled, "I Thought Peter Pan Was That Thing Under the Bed?"  Instead of conversing with his mother about the war, he has the conversation with the ghost of his mother, who is dressed only in a strange futuristic kimono and hairnet.  She teaches him to hate war, and also, to use her futuristic bedpan as a shield to keep people, especially sexy young children, from falling off a cliff onto the roof of a nearby rye bread factory.  Salinger once said of rye bread, "You never really get the smell of it out of your nose entirely."

All of this information has been purportedly corroborated by two separate anonymous sources (Shane Salerno & David Shields) via telepathy and/or time travel using very little imagination.

NEWS AT ELEVEN.

[Lucy Pearson]

Brilliant. I'm saving up for that macrobiotic hay edition.

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[mike]

It's almost 2015.  Everybody getting excited?!

[mike]

It's almost 2018.  Everybody getting excited?!  Their "book" states the following "works" will begin to be published in IRREGULAR installments starting BETWEEN 2015 and 2020.  That means 12/31/19 is the day to get your pitchforks.  Because between means BETWEEN.  Not INCLUDING.  SHMUCKS!

[James Rovira]

Ha.

Jim

PS I’m typing this from beyond the grave because I held my breath in 2015.

Sent from my iPhone

[mike]

It's almost 2019. Everybody getting excited?! You got a year left, Chris. I still hope you're right though.

[Chris Kubica]

haha, i was just in the documentary for five seconds. I never made any claims. ;)

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[mike]

Do you know who the sources are?

[Chris Kubica]

Nope. I worked on the film off and on for many years and spoke with the director on the phone sometimes daily for weeks at a time and even I knew almost nothing *at all* about the movie even while sitting in the audience at the NYC premiere, waiting for it to start!

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[Michael Anello]

Shane and Dave can legally never have to prove their sources are even real.  Guess it doesn't matter much anyway.

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[Chris Kubica]

I honestly couldn’t care less at this point. Wouldn’t be surprised if they made it all up tho. 

[Maurice]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/feb/01/matt-salinger-jd-the-catcher-in-the-rye

"when it’s ready, we’re going to share it"

Op zo 30 dec. 2018 om 22:40 schreef Chris Kubica <chris...@gmail.com>:

[mike]

It's been two years since we found out there'd be new Salinger "works" coming out.  Seems like Matt could have gotten one typed up by now.  Or does he plan to release them all at once?  I don't want to have to stay alive until 2030 for fucksake.

[James Rovira]

Ha, original email sent in 2013 about a publication process starting
in 2015 and it's 2021 and... nothing. I'm perfectly happy with
Salinger disappearing into the ether if that's what his estate wants.

Jim R