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Jacque Waiden

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Aug 2, 2024, 11:45:28 AM8/2/24
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As hinted, WD TV Live Streaming Media Player (Gen 3) is the version with Netflix support. The current WDTV Media Player product hardware is practically identical (just no LIVE on the front panel) but software is different - Netflix is one of the features removed.

The device does not have the Netflix copy protection chip in it so never can have Netflix capability. Ther are inexpensive ways to get Netflix on your TV. A Chromecast on TV controlled by a phone or tablet with the Netflix app can do the job.

The Roku was the original Netflix player and the first. one was primarily a Netflix player . I have had the first three players and have stayed with the last one,Roku 2 since the newer ones had no great features I needed. Roku was first and best player and the WDTV was not a good UI and never use it for Netflix,used just as a media player.

Cold boot time is also as much as three or four minutes and even warm boots are sometimes a minute long. Leaving the device running often results in low memory errors or videos stuttering or failing to play. Now about half of my MKVs which used to play smoothly no longer play at all.

I still have email from WD support on my WDTV Live unit. It explains how to activate Miricast which I did and as promised a large number of otherwise unseen apps showed up to the right of the screen. But; the promised NETFLIX app was not included.

There is also an instruction of loading an additional app through the USB device. This would mean access to Netflix app in a folder so it will install properly. I see one on Amazon which is perfect set up for Miricast etc. Even Kobo Books has an app for Netflix.

Because the apps are set up for immediate install we need to get it in a folder and open the folder on the USB stick. Or, a more civil thing would be for WD to undo the roll back and put the Netflix into a current update.

I need some suggestions for Control4 compatible streaming players which are supported outside USA.
I should be able to control the streaming player from the Control4 app.
I need to watch youtube, Netflix and etc...

I have been using Apple TV and it sucks big time when it comes to Control4 integration.
Apple TV keeps disconnecting whenever a new update arrives. Every time it gets disconnected, I need to reset Apple TV and reupdate.
With the most recent IOS update, even though it displays that the C4 remote is getting connected, it cannot be controlled.

I think Roku, nvidia shield and Fire TV are probably the most popular, not sure if any of them are available in your region though. Chowmain do a driver that works with a lot of android tv boxes but I have no experience with it

Just watch how much data the Chromecast uses... My oldest was living in the basement with his family a while back, and his wife streamed YouTube videos over Chromecast, and it *REALLY* sucked up the data.

Also will I be able to take the full control of the GUI of Chromecast with Google TV using Control4 app from the iPhone just like we control AppleTV?
(Hope it is not a must to have a SR260 or Neeo remote to navigate the operating system/GUI of the device)

As far as the turn off - just set the appleTV to never go to sleep and you should nbe fine, though on both the C4 made and Jessie's driver, a press of menu and cancel right after each other usually wakes it up just fine.

For me my favorite ever steamer is Xiaomi Mi Box, very cheap, I use it wired not WiFi with IRUSB and Chowmain IRUSB driver, great box, lovely Interface and with the proper smart DNS service, all US contents can be viewed.

Same here, though I can't speak for all of Canada. Some providers still 'state' a download limit, but unless you're talking bitcoin mining or (pro) server hosting (not talking about hosting something like a minecraft server)........nothing ever happens.

Here in Ontario Bell and Rogers are unlimited in their high-ish end plans that have download speeds of about 200Mbps or more. Unfortunately they no longer allow you to see how much data you use - I would love to have seen how much I would have used at the peak of the pandemic.

I've never used the Mi Box Personally (but fairly sure it's one in our office Alan has tested actually). In all likelihood though, you need to go into the the audio settings and enable something like PCM/Stereo mode (it might be trying to output as TrueHD or other surround formats not supported by some TV's)

Actually my AVR Sony DA5800ES is in my server room.
The speakers are in the Theatre room to listen to music and video's audio which are connected to this AVR.
I connected both Mi Box S & Chromecast to the Leaf AV Matrix.
One of the outputs of Leaf AV Matrix (Zone 5) is connected to this AVR (HDMI Input GAME) to get the video's audio through the receiver.

However, the audio of Mi Box S & Chromecast is not outputting through the AVR.
But the audio of Apple TV works.

I tried changing the settings of the AVR, but I couldn't figure it out yet.

Of course the overall quality goes down and the bitrate is lowered, but is the actual pixel count lowered? If so, how? When you upload a video it is usually transcoded into various bitrates, but is there actual upscaling/downscaling done during the transcoding process as well? That is to say, are multiple renditions of the same video created at different resolutions? Say you have you have one master uncompressed HD video file to stream in an abr format like hls... when you upload/encode the video should you (or the backend transcoding system) be making various renditions at different resolutions AND bit rates, or just transcoding to different bitrates? What is the player actually doing to the video when you change the resolution if it does not have pre-encoded video at multiple resolutions to choose from?

Does the video hosting or streaming service is storing the same video, "video x", in, for example, 1080 HD at bitrates A, B and C, 720 at bitrates D, E, and F and 480 at bitrates G, H, and I for adaptive bitrate streams (HLS, HDS, Dash). This is what I would think..because you can change the "resolution" from the player, however all of the streaming architecture I can find online makes it seem like 1 HD video is delivered at various bitrates without having different resolutions to choose from. But that doesn't explain the ability to change the "resolution". Perhaps I am getting caught up in the verbiage, or maybe the downscaling is done in real time on the player side? I am just trying to get a solid idea of exactly what media needs to be either uploaded to, or transcoded by, the hosting service for adaptive bitrate streaming. If there are not multiple resolutions created (like there are bitrates) then would I be correct in assuming the player must have the ability to downscale/upscale the pixel count in realtime?

When encoding a video for adaptive streaming you would normally encode the alternative streams at different bitrates (for a given resolution) and different resolutions. It depends on the capabilities of the device(s) you want to support. Take a look at Apple's HLS encoding recommendations for an example. You always want to generate your variants from a high quality source (HD). For the lower resolution versions, the downscaling will take place during the transcoding process.

If you play a low resolution version of your video in full screen mode on a device with a high resolution screen, the player will upscale it (if there are no alternative streams) to match the dimensions of the screen, but the quality won't be good - the picture will look blurry. This is why it's generally a good idea to have multiple versions at different resolutions.

The Netflix movies that you stream are NOT in high def. Although I knew this going in, I expected them to all be at least widescreen (with the exception of titles that were never widescreen). I was shocked that the first couple of titles I tried were NOT playing in widescreen. As a matter of fact they even looked a little squished. It was like they were widescreen titles that were being forced into a 4:3 format.

This player connects to your network via Ethernet. So you will need either an ethernet drop near your TV or an Ethernet to Wi-Fi bridge (which I have not tested). It would be great if these Blu-ray players either came with Wi-Fi built-in or at least offered a low cost external option like the one available for TiVo HD.

Thanks, Terry. The world has passed me by, but I think I got it. He can load the disk on his Mac and plug the AirPort into the wall near his BD300. Then he would run an Ethernet cable from the AirPort to the BD300 and would be able to stream Netflix movies directly to his TV. Sounds like a better deal for us rather than just waiting for the movies to arrive in the mail. Again, thanks so much.

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