*** Introductions ***

[Micheal Kinney]

Hello Everyone,

My name is Micheal, I'm a professional in the field of Web Development, Graphic Design, Programming, and Hardware/Software Engineering. I'm here to find like minded individuals that want to talk about more than the weather or sports, lol.

I'd be interested in meeting up with like minded individuals. I have extensive experience with Linux and a variety of distros but I'm actually most interested more in discussions on python and other programming languages. I'm already part of the Bakersfield JavaScript group but sadly there is no Bakersfield Python User Group, I'd join if there was. Hell, this one could be merged with Python to become Bakersfield PLUG, lol.

It doesn't look like there's much activity here, so I hope the group is still active and I figured to revive things here, it wouldn't be a bad idea to introduce ourselves.

Thanks,

Micheal

[Jason Spivey]

Hello there Michael. Welcome to the group. The group is pretty inactive as you can probably see. I have very basic knowledge of python. I was recently enrolled in a class but fid not finish for the usual reasons. I do like python. 

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[Micheal Kinney]

I've been working in python for about a year on my own project and just picked it up myself. I know they teach it now at BC along with structured programming design instead of using pseudo code but I took the class before they offered Python as part of it. It's really simple to use (much like Ruby on Rails) and what I like most about it is that you can focus more on the task at hand than the language itself. It makes for very quick and structured development. I also think that a lot of people have misconceptions about Python, like that it's slow and not as "Good" as C languages. Without changing an Python code, it runs as fast as C++ for me and I even compile some of my programs down to binaries to natively run on Linux, Mac or Windows without python, which speeds it up 3 to 5 times. But enough about Python, I should probably keep the discussion centered around Linux but clearly I'm a Python fanboy. I could teach and/or anyone willing to put in a little time (both Linux or Python).

[Tristan Smith]

Welcome to the group! As someone has mentioned we are pretty inactive. You're more than welcome to create discussions though.

I'm not great with it, but Python holds a special place in my heart. :D

[Douglas James]

I've lived here almost my entire 37 years here, and only in the last 4 or 5 years have I really come to the conclusion that I should change occupations, from retail to IT....

Man, oh man, Bakersfield is not the place to find any Linux/UNIX employment, this is definitely MS country!

I think that is the primary reason it's so difficult to find anyone, outside of very small circles, that you can relate with in regards to anything other than MS.  

[Micheal Kinney]

Maybe with the economic times and companies needing to save more an more money, you might start to see a bit more Linux distros being used with open source software to save a buck. There's a lot of good appliances out there and Turnkey as well as virtualization makes it easier than ever to spin up an instance of a Linux server, almost ready to go. We have a few Linux servers and appliances running here where I work.

[Jason Spivey]

Ive often tried to recommend linux when repairing friends and family old computers. Number one is the cost and they would not realize that their ten your old computer isnt going to run like it used to and also when you have lost installation media new OS costs money. The free solution (ubuntu) but different was always pushed away and they would want a new pc. Almost everyone I know uses to surf the web and check emails. Nothing taxing for old hardware. 

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On May 20, 2016, at 13:59, Micheal Kinney <micheal.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

Maybe with the economic times and companies needing to save more an more money, you might start to see a bit more Linux distros being used with open source software to save a buck. There's a lot of good appliances out there and Turnkey as well as virtualization makes it easier than ever to spin up an instance of a Linux server, almost ready to go. We have a few Linux servers and appliances running here where I work.

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[Richard Yamauchi]

I think now it's a great time to recommend Linux with all that ransomware out there.

[Douglas James]

I have a guy at my work that had issues with his laptop, and him being computer illiterate, he would pack his computer within a short time with search bars, ransomware, etc,. So I finally told him he should try Ubuntu (this was when 12.04 LTS just dropped), and he agreed. The only issue I ran into was getting wifi to work, but once that was resolved, I never heard him complain again. I think most people don't realize there ARE other options, you're not forced to use Windows. In fact, most find it hard to believe that Windows, in the grand scheme of things, is the only OS that's not related to the rest of the OS family, i.e, OSX and Playstation using a modified form of UNIX, Android and Chrome OS with modified Linux kernel, etc. 

[Douglas James]

True. You're seeing that trend begin, especially in Europe, where a lot of gov't systems are moving to exclusively SUSE, RHEL, Debian, even the US military is now beginning that transition to Linux if I remember correctly. The fact is, yes, it's much easier, cheaper, and faster to deploy Linux, whether it be through virtualization or physical. I think that also has a bit to do with why MS is needing the bash support on Win10, it's a logical way to ensure devs can still use their product and still get their work done.

[Douglas James]

Funny you mention ransomware... I have a co-worker, just yesterday, asking me if I could take a look at his wife's notebook. He explained what was happening, and, the OS being Win8, the symptoms would indicate ransomware. I agreed to help him with it. Later that day, he tells me that his wife's brother was going to fix the notebook. He tells me that his wife says, "I dont know your (IT GUY), and my brother is an electrician, so he can fix it." Who can argue with that? A computer uses electricity, her brother is an electrician.. I haven't heard back, whether or not the problem was fixed.

[Jason Spivey]

Really? Electrician!!!! 

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[Erick Toscano]

Lol

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[J. Brown]

I agree with most of the above statements. Yes, most people are not aware of Linux. Most businesses will soon see the cost/savings benefit of Linux, especially considering virtualization and scalability. Everyone starts somewhere. I am just a comedian who adopted the ideology and practical uses of free open sourced solutions.