Estou junto com o Pedro e tamb�m n�o quero nem chegar perto de rails.
N�o temos tempo h�bil para desenvolver isso. Mas que d�, pra um dia, com
bra�os, claro que d�.
On 15/02/2013 03:26, Thiago Carrapatoso wrote:
> MENOS DE UM DIA!!!
>
> V�rusPauloGeyerOuAlgumOutroNome, � g�nio!
>
> Como a gente faz isso?!?!?!
>
> Um dia, gente! Isso sim � muito amor!
>
>
> 2013/2/15 Paulo Geyer <
paulo...@gmail.com>:
>> haha, sim, trabalhei com o pessoal do Catarse,
>>
>> fiz um site de crowdfunding para casamentos, Wedding Giver,
>> pra criar um site no catarse tem que ter conhecimento de rails, um
>> site completo integrado ao facebook, paypal e hospedado no Heroku leva
>> menos de um dia pra implementar
>>
>> abs,
>> Paulo
>>
>> 2013/2/15 Pedro Markun <
pe...@markun.com.br>:
>>> Haha, oi?
>>>
>>> O Paulo Geyer, amigo meu de longa data, andou trabalhando com implementa��es
>>> de plataformas de crowdsourcing com o c�digo do Catarse. Ele pode dizer o
>>> trampo que d� (ou n�o)
>>>
>>> Reza a lenda que ele implementou um site de crowdfunding de casamentos uma
>>> vez.
>>>
>>> abs,
>>> Pedro Markun
>>>
>>> 2013/2/15 Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sei... :P
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/2/14 Pedro Markun <
pe...@markun.com.br>:
>>>>> Olha... implementar o c�digo do Catarse (
>>>>>
https://github.com/danielweinmann/catarse ) � complexo, mas factivel...
>>>>> se
>>>>> tiver gente e mais especificamente gente que entenda de rails... (eu
>>>>> estou
>>>>> fora.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Isso posto... o Catarse n�o � o software. N�o da pra fazer 'um' catarse
>>>>> em
>>>>> uma semana, nem em um ano. Os caras ralaram bastante pra construir -
>>>>> justamente aquilo que se aponta como a diferen�a maior entre Catarse e
>>>>> Benfeitoria.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eu n�o ligo muito pro modelo de neg�cio do Benfeitoria. O BxC tamb�m n�o
>>>>> tem
>>>>> um modelo claro, n�? E estamos por ai.
>>>>>
>>>>> Por fim, o RedeLivre esta pensado pra que cada um compre seu pr�prio
>>>>> roteador (atrav�s de uma doa��o)... e a ideia era descolar alguns apoios
>>>>> extras pra garantir alguns pontos pr�ximos dos palcos. Ent�o da forma
>>>>> como
>>>>> desenhei, pelo menos, n�o cabe bem no Benfeitoria.
>>>>>> vim escrever exatamente sobre isto! n�o entendo porra nenhuma de qu�o
>>>>>> tricky possa ser fazer um trem deste,mas se rolar acho vantagem!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em sexta-feira, 15 de fevereiro de 2013 01h14min26s UTC-2, Thiago
>>>>>> Carrapatoso escreveu:
>>>>>>> Peeeeeeeedro!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E Friiiiiiijolleessss!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meu, qual � o real trabalho para fazer isso?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vamos mensurar para ver qual o real trabalho e o que ter�amos que
>>>>>>> articular (MoIP, PagSeguro, PayPal, sei l� mais o qu�)??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vamos?!!?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pilhei!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Evelyn Gomes <
lyll...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Tbm acho genio pq pensar em 13% nem consigo!!! � foda ne!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 15/02/2013 00:01, "Thiago Carrapatoso" <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Na verdade, � mais simples.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> D� para fazer um Catarse nosso em 10 dias?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Se sim, acho G-�-N-I-O!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Luiz Veronesi <
lver...@texugo.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>> Pra mim, eu acho que a quest�o � assim:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Precisamos de um modelo de capta��o pr�prio ou n�o? Precisamos
>>>>>>>>>> adaptar
>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>> sistema aberto que existe hoje ou n�o? Qual o esfor�o pra isso?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sentar e discutir. O Catarse � aberto? Catarse: vamos melhorar
>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>> juntos.
>>>>>>>>>> Pode ser no Hackday? D�? N�o d�? O que fazer? E voc� Benfeitoria?
>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>> conversar pra fazer melhor.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Se um n�o quiser e preferir ficar na quest�o de grana, o problema
>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>> dele,
>>>>>>>>>> vamos utilizar os meios que acreditam nos nossos meios.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu quero conversar sobre isso.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu acho que j� t� pra ontem essa coisa de um Hack Day ou, como j�
>>>>>>>>>> foi
>>>>>>>>>> dito,
>>>>>>>>>> v�rias reuni�es focadas em assuntos espec�ficos no mesmo dia, mas
>>>>>>>>>> precisamos
>>>>>>>>>> desembestar isso a�.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Abrax.
>>>>>>>>>> Feij�o.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 14/02/2013 23:35, Thiago Carrapatoso wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> vai = faz
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas da� a gente vai um over cap dos 13%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (over cap!?)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 andressa vianna <
venivid...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Essa inc�gnita das faixas de colabora��o n�o vejo muito
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funcionando
>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>>>> l�gica aqui, infelizmont.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acho que � cada meta batida, � uma "campanha" nova que se
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inicia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interessante para a comunica��o, ok, pode ser (apesar do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trabalho
>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conte�do aumentar), mas acho bastante cansativo. E tb entra na
>>>>>>>>>>>>> l�gica
>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>> termos que elencar X hip�teses de or�amento e elencar o que
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aconteceria
>>>>>>>>>>>>> em
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cada faixa...A emo��o de bater uma meta de valor � sempre
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dolorida
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> funciona no duro do apelo...eu acho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> O Benfeitoria n�o tem modelo de neg�cio claro, e n�o tem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunica��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> t�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> trabalhada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nesse ponto, infelizmont again, o Catarse vem estruturando um
>>>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realmente rent�vel para os dois lados (mesmo que um dos lados
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ganhe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'menos esfor�o' concentrado)...Isso pra mim � importante, o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benfeitoria
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pode
>>>>>>>>>>>>> acabar amanh� se o patroc�nio deles acabar, o Catarse t� se
>>>>>>>>>>>>> garantindo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o. Sabe?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eu n�o sei mesmo, porque de fato, mesmo com a comunica��o do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (que tb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> temos de outras formas), 13% pra gente � muito!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 - ou a gente cria um Catarse pra gente (hohohohohoho) ainda
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NESTE
>>>>>>>>>>>>> festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (n�o d� pra fazer via bot�o de doa��o e ponto? a gente maneja
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> contrapartidas e ponto?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 - a gente faz pelo Benfeitoria.....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 - A RedeLivre experimentando o Benfeitoria acho tudo � ver.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> escrev� muito pra meio nada. Mas come�o � pensar que 13% t�
>>>>>>>>>>>>> foda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bj
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 14 de fevereiro de 2013 23:07, Thiago Carrapatoso
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Por que voc� n�o joga o RedeLivre para o Benfeitoria?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Da� a gente fica com dois projetos em duas plataformas e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vemos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> como
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sai.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> N�o?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Pedro Markun <
pe...@markun.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haha,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> justo. Ent�o � o passo 1 pra equalizar isso, acho...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Imo (e aqui � pragmatica, sem muita filosofia)...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se for na mesma faixa do segundo Catarse 15~25k. Faz menos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diferen�a a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plataforma... e o Catarse vai facilitar por conta da for�a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plataforma. E a capta��o vai ser suave (com bastante
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esfor�o).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nessas... eu jogaria algo como 15-35 em faixas de 5k no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benfeitoria.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20k
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no Catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se a ideia for o projeto original 45~55k. Acho que s� a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for�a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> natural
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse n�o � o suficiente. Obviamente d�... mas � isso, tem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�vel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rala��o enorme nesse processo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A invers�o da chamada p�blica � uma �tima sacada e facilita
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bem, pq
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cuida de articular uma galera pra doar e voc� multiplica
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p�blicos e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apoiadores.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nesse caso o Benfeitoria e suas categorias podem ser um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caminho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seguro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na onda do 'se n�o tem tu, vai tu mesmo' adaptado pra uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realidade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onde
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gente n�o pode fazer um segundo-catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> De toda forma essa coisa de 'faixas de doa��o' � meio mal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conhecido
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aqui. L� na gringa funciona relativamente bem... mas aqui �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incognita...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas tenho bastante convic��o de que no Catarse vai ser bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dif�cil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gente implementar essa l�gica de 'faixas de doa��o' s� na
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (como
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feito no Kickstarter por exemplo)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aqui eu estou descontando eventuais aportes parrudos, seja
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doa��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gente do poder p�blico, de organiza��es e coletivos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parceiros
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coisa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Outro jeito � pensar uma esp�cie de 'valor padr�o' por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atividade
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposta.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se tivermos as mesmas 120 atividades e cada coletivo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> articular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doar 500 reais... a gente chega em 60k f�cil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas � isso... � um risco numa grade de programa��o onde n�s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j�
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diagnosticamos que erramos numa conversa inicial e tem muita
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entendeu ainda a l�gica colaborativa do festival.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro Markun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps: Mal ae se escrevi muito. Estou longe e s� posso mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ajudar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bifurcando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> os sendeiros :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ps2: Provavelmente vou jogar o RedeLivre na paralela no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l�gica produto, pagou levou... ent�o acho que n�o tem galho.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventualmente posso s� concentrar esfor�os pra captar pro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Festival
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sair a gente v� como e se implementa a rede livre.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nem a gente! :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Pedro Markun <
pe...@markun.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Como eu disse... quer que saia grana, arranja um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patrocinador...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> construtora, incorporadora, intermediaria.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nesse nosso processo coletivo e colaborativo... No fim das
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tudo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risco... e vontade nossa e dos outrxs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No ano passado, no primeiro festival, o dinheiro *n�o*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saiu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E ai
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depois
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saiu e rolou.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E eu continuo achando que mesmo na pragm�tica, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibilidade de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colocar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valor minimo absoluto para realiza��o x e outras fases bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delimitadas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> y e z � mais garantia do que ir direto no valor y ou z no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas tamb�m estou discutindo moinhos. N�o estou no corre da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produ��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sei em quanto ficou 'custado' o festival...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro Markun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P�,eu tinha sugerido de a gente fazer este festival pelo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> depois, outros projetos pelo Benfeitoria para testarmos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ambos os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modelos.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Como a Malu apontou, � meio tenso experimentar com isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depois n�o sai a grana, todo mundo vai ficar bicudo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E eu SUPER acho que DEMOROU para fazer o nosso!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... mas n�o para esse festival...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Pedro Markun <
pe...@markun.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2cents?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acho que vale experimentar e dialogar com o Benfeitoria.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu, particularmente - e vivo falando isso com o pessoal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> l� -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse nasceu pra realizar sonho e n�o pra vender
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plataforma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em si tem um modelo padr�o pensado para contemplar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tamb�m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> la
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kickstarter).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E eles justamente n�o podem flexibilizar o modelo pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uns e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outros
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porque se n�o, v�o ter problemas com escala. A gente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tamb�m
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tentou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fazer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essa negociata com o �nibus Hacker... tentamos no outro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BxC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tentamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agora
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e eles sempre respondem (coerente e corretamente) que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fazer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pq se
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o 'fode o rol�'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As facilidades que o Diego lista valem, de fato, ouro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vai
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ser
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f�cil
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captar l� do que no Benfeitoria ou em qualquer outra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plataforma.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sempre insisto que se � pra ser o 'mais f�cil',
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decididamente o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caminho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> � crowdfunding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E na matemagica, a possibilidade de trabalhar com faixas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrecada��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benfeitoria vai facilitar que a capta��o seja bem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sucedida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seja
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ela
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for - diferente do Catarse que vai gerar de novo aquela
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'queremos viver disso ou queremos fazer valer?' (e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desenhar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> linha �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dificil pacas').
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Por fim, s� pra jogar lenha na fogueira... pq ainda acho
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que d�
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chamar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse pro Hackday e implementar as funcionalidades...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c�digo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aberto. E se a gente fizesse o nosso? :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedro Markun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/14 Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carxs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resposta do Diego.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O que acham?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Diego Reeberg <
di...@catarse.me>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 2013/2/14
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: BaixoCentro e Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Thiago Carrapatoso <
thiago.ca...@gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rodrigo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
rod...@catarse.me>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fala Thiago, tudo bem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O Rodrigo segue copiado aqui nesse e-mail tamb�m, ok?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dei
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folguinha para o Lu�s x) Hahaha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� repassa para a galera do BaixoCentro?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conversamos aqui hoje para poder dar um feedback para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voc�s.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bem, como o BaixoCentro � uma iniciativa que tem muito
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ver
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse, comentamos com voc�s que adorar�amos investir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recursos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pr�prios para ativar ainda mais gente para conhecer e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apoiar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no Catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para isso, o que a gente mais pode oferecer s�o frentes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ajudar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunica��o e ativa��o da rede do Catarse para apoiar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - 1 newsletter focada no BxC, ou seja, indicando o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at�
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conte�dos associados ao que � o festival;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - investimento de at� R$500 em posts promovidos no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facebook.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Achamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> melhor que esse investimento seja dividido em alguns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ao
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> longo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> campanha (no m�nimo 4 posts - come�o, dois no meio da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> campanha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reta final). A ideia aqui � articular a rede do Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do BaixoCentro e fazer v�rios posts faz com que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atinjamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pessoas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diferentes e em diferentes momentos da campanha.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - assessoria para elaborar recompensas e/ou estrat�gia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunica��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da campanha do BaixoCentro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sobre ter um campo espec�fico no Catarse para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribui��es
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o-financeiras, a gente preferiu n�o prometer nada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> est�
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso roadmap, achamos importante e por causa do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voc�s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ser que antecipemos a implementa��o dessa feature. Mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prudente n�o prometer uma data.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se realmente tivermos espa�o para fazer isso num Hack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (foi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nome que voc�s me falaram ontem?) na semana do dia 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fevereiro,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posso ver com o Diogo, mestre de tech no Catarse, se
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ele
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ele
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para c� e agilizarmos isso.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lembrando que mesmo que algo fosse feito aqui, n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviria
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diminuir/alterar a meta do projeto ao longo da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capta��o,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> n�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rola
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo no Catarse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sobre a taxa, concordamos que ela continua para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projeto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BaixoCentro assim como ela � para os outros projetos do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fica muito claro para n�s que isso � indispens�vel para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catarse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conseguir oferecer o servi�o que a gente oferece hoje
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (e �
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que a maioria dos projetos � financiado no site) e para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sustentar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> equipe que possibilite melhoria cont�nuas desse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servi�o.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu entendo que voc�s tem uma preocupa��o com a quest�o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxa,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acho que voc�s devem ponderar principalmente sobre os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> servi�os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oferecidos: facilidade de login/cadastro, j� ter uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usu�rios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no Catarse, v�rios dos apoiadores de um projeto como o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BaixoCentro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> j� apoiaram projetos no Catarse, facilidade no fluxo de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pagamento,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aceitar pagamentos internacionais de forma pr�tica,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comunica��o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apoiadores pela aba Novidades.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bem ,acho que � isso. Qualquer d�vida mais � s� falar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Abra��o,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diego Reeberg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
catarse.me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (11) 98178-0825
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .:Andressa Vianna:.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @FurtaaCor
>>>>>>>>>>>>> BaixoCentro
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Casa da Cultura Digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alian�a do V�deo Livre
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Veredas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> para o
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio
>>>>>>>>>> --- Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no
>>>>>>>>>> grupo
>>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus
>>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio para
>>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo
>>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus
>>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio para o
>>>>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo
>>>>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus
>>>>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
>>>>>>>>
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio para o
>>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo
>>>>> "BaixoCentro"
>>>>> dos Grupos do Google.
>>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus e-mails,
>>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio para o nosso
>>>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo
>>>> "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>>>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus e-mails,
>>>> Para obter mais op��es, acesse
https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> Se voc� quiser receber nossos releases, preencha o formul�rio para o nosso mailing de imprensa:
http://eepurl.com/t9KEH
>> ---
>> Voc� est� recebendo esta mensagem porque se inscreveu no grupo "BaixoCentro" dos Grupos do Google.
>> Para cancelar a inscri��o neste grupo e parar de receber seus e-mails, envie um e-mail para
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