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Ivan Tarasov

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:50:02 AM11/19/09
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Hello, Haskellers!

We haven't met for quite some time now, and I think we should.

I can try to prepare something, however I'd be glad if someone else
decides to present something.

I'd also like to have something that could be demonstrated at the
meeting, something cool and practical (e.g. example of automatic
differentiation application), something smart and interesting. Any
ideas?

Cheers,
Ivan

Vlad Patryshev

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Nov 19, 2009, 4:26:25 PM11/19/09
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I promised a comonad sample

2009/11/19 Ivan Tarasov <ivan.t...@gmail.com>

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:25:58 AM11/20/09
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That would be awesome. Whatever you guys cook up, I'm in.

-Arthur


On Nov 19, 1:26 pm, Vlad Patryshev <vpatrys...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I promised a comonad sample
>
> 2009/11/19 Ivan Tarasov <ivan.tara...@gmail.com>
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> > Hello, Haskellers!
>
> > We haven't met for quite some time now, and I think we should.
>
> > I can try to prepare something, however I'd be glad if someone else
> > decides to present something.
>
> > I'd also like to have something that could be demonstrated at the
> > meeting, something cool and practical (e.g. example of automatic
> > differentiation application), something smart and interesting. Any
> > ideas?
>
> > Cheers,
> > Ivan
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Evan Laforge

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Nov 22, 2009, 11:15:24 PM11/22/09
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I have a project I've been working on for a while, which is a music
sequencer. I think some day it would be fun to do a little
presentation on it. There are two parts, one is what makes it
interesting and different as a music sequencer, and two is what's
interesting about its design as a haskell program.

For a haskell audience of course I'd focus on number two. There's
nothing revolutionary here, but it's an example of a nontrivial
(currently around 20k lines of haskell and 5k lines of c++) program
with a GUI in haskell. There may also be some strange design
decisions because I'm a newcomer to the world of interactive
applications. So it wouldn't be "here's a tidy clever idea" but
rather a miscellaneous collection of practical issues with their
occasionally suboptimal solutions.

There are also haskelly things like a pure functional state and how
that syncs with the imperative GUI, and the non-GUI interface which is
a haskell REPL, the various monads in use, and the importance of lazy
data structures. I can talk about my experiences with debugging,
profiling, etc. I'd also be really interested in hearing other
people's feedback on some of the design decisions in there.

I've never been to one of these meetings so it seems like it might be
a nice introduction.

The only thing is that it's nowhere near release-able, so some stuff
will be handwaving. I hopefully could get things together enough for
a demonstration, depends when this thing is happening. It can put
stuff on the screen and make some noises at least :)

Jason Dusek

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Nov 23, 2009, 1:49:10 AM11/23/09
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2009/11/19 Vlad Patryshev <vpatr...@gmail.com>:
> I promised a comonad sample

I'm interested to hear more about this.

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Ivan Tarasov

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:52:39 AM11/23/09
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Evan,

these things sound really interesting! When do you think you would be able to present it?

I think that we should have a meeting with an "abstract" theoretical/practical talk first, so that you have more time to prepare for your talk till the meeting after that. However, if you want, we can have you present on the next meeting. We can also have a discussion afterwards based on what you show and tell us, there must be a lot of things to talk about.

Ivan

2009/11/22 Evan Laforge <qdu...@gmail.com>
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Ben Sanders

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:58:52 PM11/23/09
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On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Evan Laforge <qdu...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have a project I've been working on for a while, which is a music
sequencer. 

This sounds great!  I'd love to hear about experiences of structuring larger, interactive Haskell programs.

Evan Laforge

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Nov 23, 2009, 2:11:41 PM11/23/09
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Ivan Tarasov <ivan.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Evan,
>
> these things sound really interesting! When do you think you would be able
> to present it?

Well, I can take advantage of thanksgiving holiday to polish some
things up and make some slides, so lets say any time in december
before the 17th, when I'm leaving the country until the new year.

> I think that we should have a meeting with an "abstract"
> theoretical/practical talk first, so that you have more time to prepare for
> your talk till the meeting after that. However, if you want, we can have you
> present on the next meeting. We can also have a discussion afterwards based
> on what you show and tell us, there must be a lot of things to talk about.

Sure, sounds good to me.

Jason Dusek

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:24:25 AM11/24/09
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How do you folks feel about December 12th or 13th, at 18:00 or
19:00? There are open spots on the calendar at Noisebridge; I
can get us a classroom with whiteboards for either of those
days.

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Ivan Tarasov

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:30:47 AM11/24/09
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I'm trying to see if we could get another good venue in SOMA.

Saturday/Sunday were regarded as bad meeting days by most people who initially were interested in visiting the meetings, however since usually not that many people actually come, that may be not true anymore.

Ivan

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Jason Dusek

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Nov 24, 2009, 1:36:44 PM11/24/09
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2009/11/24 Ivan Tarasov <ivan.t...@gmail.com>:
> Saturday/Sunday were regarded as bad meeting days...

Oh, oops. I was looking at the November calendar.

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Evan Laforge

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:39:19 PM11/24/09
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:30 AM, Ivan Tarasov <ivan.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to see if we could get another good venue in SOMA.
>
> Saturday/Sunday were regarded as bad meeting days by most people who
> initially were interested in visiting the meetings, however since usually
> not that many people actually come, that may be not true anymore.

Sunday afternoon (5pm or later) is ideal for me since I'm passing
through SF at that time. Saturday is ok. Weekdays are not ideal
since I live in Mountain View, but doable if they're 7pm or later.

Vlad Patryshev

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Nov 24, 2009, 7:31:47 PM11/24/09
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I'd prefer 7pm on workdays, but if there's no choice, I'll be there anyway, even if it's 8am Sunday.

2009/11/24 Jason Dusek <jason...@gmail.com>
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Jason Dusek

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:55:05 PM11/24/09
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Definitely, 19:00 on workdays is easy at Noisebridge most days;
especially with enough lead time.

Ivan, if you have trouble finding a location than we can use
Noisebridge as a backup.

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