"looking at woman" Lauren Donika Ashley morrisa kevin

[Lauren Aresco]

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[ashley fort]

How should a man look at a women?

[Kevin Smith]

I think the thesis of this essay is located at the bottom of page 295, and is the first sentence of the last paragraph that reads, "How should a man look at women?"(295).

[Lauren Aresco]

I think the introduction begins at the begging of the story and continues for a couple more paragraphs. I think the thesis statement is " What attracts our eyes and rouses our blood is only partly instinctual. Other forces contend in us as well: the voices of books and religions, the images of art and film and advertising, the entire chorus of culture" (295) I think this is the thesis because if tell me what the story is about and it connects back to the little story in the introduction. 

[Morrisa Luddy]

Norman doesn't start his essay and arguments right at the beginning of his essay. The first few paragraphs are a little background information about his connection to the subject of woman. I believe he really starts to argue his point in the paragraph on page 295 that starts with "How should a man look at a women?" He doesn't really have a strong thesis, but rather a question he hopes to answer throughout his essay, which is the question above. He wants to know how a man should treat/look at a women. In the following paragraphs he uses his own experiences and other philosophers references to back up evidence to answer the question.

[ashley fort]

The introduction begins at the beginning and ends where it says, "Norman gave a snort. I sank into the seat, and tried to figure out what power had sprung from that sashaying girl to zap me in the belly." I think the thesis is: "What attracts our eyes and rouses our blood is only partly instinctual. Other forces contend in us as well: the voices of books and religions, the images of art and film and advertising, the entire chorus of culture." I think this is the thesis because I think that is what the whole story will be about.

[ashley fort]

One word that was unfamiliar to me while reading was propagation on page 295. The definition of propagation is multiplication by natural reproduction.

[ashley fort]

Sanders' weaves personal stories from his own life into his essay. One story that Sanders' shared was when him and his friend saw a girl walking down the street who was wearing tight short shorts. I think this connects to the essential question of: To what extent do our bodies determine our personalities, identify our choices, and make us the individuals that we are? This connects because other people, especially, other girls and adults will probably view her in a negative way because she is not dressed apporpiately and is revealing too much. This girl is sending out the wrong message and a bad reputation because of the way she is dressed. A bad reputation will stay with you forever, therefore you don't want people under the imperssion that you are "asking for it".These connections allow a reader to better understand Sanders' point because the reader may be able to connect also with his connection. This can make the reader feel as if they know exactly what Sanders' is talking about.

[Morrisa Luddy]

A word I did not understand was on page 295. It was "sashaying" which means to glide, move, or proceed easily or nonchalantly:

[Morrisa Luddy]

The only question I can find of Sanders asking a direct question is when he asks "How should a man look at a women?" So, how should he look at one?

[Morrisa Luddy]

On pages 294-295, Sanders explains a scene where him and his friend stared at a pretty girl crossing the street. I can connect to the scene from "Mad Men" we watched in class today. It was the one where the woman had her shirt buttoned down a bit, and the men were all crowding around to look at her. The men didn't really care much for who she was, but what she was showing to them. Sanders is trying to figure out if that's the right way to look at a women. Do woman want men to look at them because of the way they dress, or because of what's inside. From this connection to Mad Men, you can understand why he asks these questions.

[ashley fort]

I think a man should look at a women with respect. A man should respect a women while looking at them because a woman would not aprreciate a man who said anything bad towards her.

[Lauren Aresco]

How should a man look at a woman?

[Lauren Aresco]

semaphore is one word i was not familiar with on page 294. Semaphore means conveying information by means of visual signals

[Lauren Aresco]

i think that a man should look at a woman with respect while also treating her with it. 

[Donika Prevalla]

A word that I didn't understand in the story is instinctual. I found out that it was an adjective and meant pertaining to, or of the nature of instinct.

[Donika Prevalla]

I think the introduction begins in the italics paragraph. He start with some background information and then went on with telling the story about the stoplight. I think it ended after he finished the story and started explaining how he really felt about the situation. So I basically think it starts at the top of page 294 and ends in the beginning of 295.

[Donika Prevalla]

"What man hasn't, aside from all those who feel lust in their hearts for other men?" pg 298 p 1

[Donika Prevalla]

I think a man should look at a woman with respect. That's the best way I could describe it. The worst feeling is when you see a guy looking at a girl and feels so superior and like they're better than her.

[Morrisa Luddy]

For some reason,  my post didn't show up, but I answered this question before. I said that a man should look at a woman if he loves her, or for whatever he admires her for. Men should be looking on the inside, not the outside. Most women want to be treated with respect, and if they have guys drooling all over them, yes they may like it, but it's not fair because they don't know who they are inside.

[Donika Prevalla]

John Berger is a storyteller, essayist, novelist, screenwriter, dramatist and critic. He is said to be one of the most internationally influential writers of the last fifty years. I can defiantly see why Scott Russell Sanders picked him to reference. He's taken part in many things like exploring relationships between individuals and society, culture and politics, novels, book works, essays, plays, films, photographic collaborations and performances. Sanders picked a very good choice to reference because it seems like John Berger has the entire package when it comes to literature. http://www.johnberger.org

[Morrisa Luddy]

Kate Millett - http://www.enotes.com/kate-millett-salem/kate-millett-0220000117

Kate Millet was a part of the National Organization for Women, which fought for women equality. She wrote a book called "Sexual Politics". This book explained how male writers portray woman as "objects", and how that isn't right.

Sanders is making this reference because he wants to show how woman feel about men staring at them, and treating them like they are just an object to use. He refers to Kate Millett on page 302 and 303, and explains her arguments with D. H Lawrence. Sanders says "Millett argues...for in her view Lawrence himself was a purveyor of patriarchal and often sadistic pornography" (303). Sanders is providing a women's view on the subject, to get somewhat of an answer of how a man should look at a women, or treat one. Respect, and equality is was Millett wants. 

[Donika Prevalla]

I think at the end of the essay Sanders basically told how women are discriminated. He went into detail talking about how men pretty much have control. How a woman dresses and puts make up on effects men in every way. I never really thought of it like that but this story really opened up my eyes. Woman are way too discriminated. The fact that we wear make up and men don't proves a point itself.

[ashley fort]

Simone de Beauvioir was a french novelist, philosopher, and feminist critic. She used her own expierences to write about her own opinons and how she feels about how men look at women. I think Sanders put this individual into the essay to get a different view point. The other individuals were mostly male, therefore this can cause bias. Also, this was a different view point because, on page 299,  Simone feels as if women transform themselves into dolls and that women are the ones tempting men to look at them.

http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/phil/philo/phils/beauvoir.html

[ashley fort]

I think Sanders concludes that women are treated the same as men. For example, it is clear when Sanders talks about his past expierences from when he was in college. On page 296, Sanders is talking about how women, modeling for Playboy, are making their own decision to be on diplay. Also, on page 297 he mentions "these women in the glossy photographs would have become merely another category of objects for sale, alongside the sports cars and stereo systems.." His tone of the essay was indifferent, I felt like Sanders never expierenced girls when he was a boy because he didn't relate to his friends in college and even his friend growing up, Norman. The purpose of the essay was to show that women should be treated equal as men, and women should be respected and they should be looked at with respect from men

[Morrisa Luddy]

Sanders's  final conclusion is that women should be looked at based upon how they want to be looked at. For example, in Sanders's last sentences, his diction includes a similie that says he "encounter[s] women whose presence strikes me like a slap of wind in the face" (304). He is saying that women amaze him and make him feel winded, and you can feel that within this word choice. Also, his last words in this eassy are "I must prepare a gaze that is worthy of their splendor" (304). His word choice here is descriptive and almost metaphoric. In this sentence he is saying that he should look at a women that is "worthy" of who they are, not what they are.