"Looking at Women" James, Peter, Tena, Jordan

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James Wall

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Oct 25, 2011, 7:59:38 AM10/25/11
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James, Tena, Peter, Jordan

James Wall

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:18:23 AM10/25/11
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I think that the thesis is when the author says "Now, thirty years away from that July afternoon, firmly married, twice a father, I am still humming from the power unleashed by the girl in pink shorts, still wondering how it made her feel to have two boys gawk at her, still puzzling over how to dwell in the force field of desire." I think this sentence best describes what i have read of this story because it really relates to how the way you dress can drastically effect the way that someone looks or feels about you. This boy still remembers that day because of how that girl was implanted in his memory, just by her style. If she had dressed in clothes that covered her up, her hair done more maturely and had a little more "class," as some would say, she may not have had that kind of reaction.

Peter Niro

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:18:28 AM10/25/11
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I think that the introduction starts in the beginning of the last
paragraph on page 295. The thesis is the sentence is the second
sentence. I think this because it asks a question and then explains
what he means about it and then starts to write a lot about it. The
introduction ends at the end of that paragraph.
On Oct 25, 7:59 am, James Wall <james.wall.berli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> James, Tena, Peter, Jordan

Peter Niro

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Oct 25, 2011, 11:52:23 AM10/25/11
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One vocabulary word that I found and i didn't know was "waltzes" and
that was on page 295. that word means a ballroom dance or a piece of
music.

Peter Niro

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Oct 25, 2011, 11:53:46 AM10/25/11
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I found the question: "How should a man look at a women?" I think a
man should look at a women the same as he would look a another man.
What do you think?

Peter Niro

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Oct 25, 2011, 3:22:52 PM10/25/11
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One connection that I can make with Scott Russel is when he said that
the girl put on clothes that made the boys gawk over her. I can
connect to that because I see a lot of people that dress to impress
the other sex in school. It is not only the girls that do that, boys
do it to impress the girls too. I know that a lot of people think that
only girls do that, but boys do it to.

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Tena Vernale

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:26:43 PM10/25/11
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A word that I did not understand was pristine on page 295. Pristine is an adjective meaning in its original condition, or unspoiled.

Tena Vernale

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:28:24 PM10/25/11
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I agree with Peter because both sexes should look at one another equally. I think that no one should look at each other and think that a man, or vice versa, is stronger, smarter, or better than themselves.

Jordan Zima

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:31:38 PM10/25/11
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one word I didnt get it and understand was Neurotically
 
 A person suffering from a neurosis. No longer in scientific use.
 Informal A person prone to excessive anxiety and emotional upset.

Jordan Zima

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:34:00 PM10/25/11
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I found one question "What did that gaping takie from me?"

Jordan Zima

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:39:24 PM10/25/11
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The way we should look at women/ girls is as equalls just like peter said. Women can do stuff just as well as men. Like now a days women in some house holds bring home the "bacon". And many women are very powerful these days.
 

Tena Vernale

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Oct 25, 2011, 8:40:39 PM10/25/11
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I think the introduction begins on page 294 with, "On that sizzling July afternoon..:" and I think ends with the boys getting yelled at for looking at the female. I think the thesis is " What attracts our eyes and rouses our blood is only partly instinctual. Other forces contend in us as well: the voices of books and religions, the images of art and film and advertising, the entire chorus of culture" (Sanders 295). I think this is the thesis because it tells us what the story is going to be about.
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Tena Vernale

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Oct 25, 2011, 9:28:40 PM10/25/11
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How should a man look at women? (295)

James Wall

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:09:03 AM10/26/11
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@jordan
i agree with you, the women nowadays are single mothers, primary
providers and other jobs that men used to only do. i like the way you
used a term, "bringing home the 'bacon'" to describe more in depth of
what society actually is nowadays.

Peter Niro

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:11:25 AM10/26/11
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In the story, I found one person that Sanders makes reference to. That
is Simone de Beauvioir. She was used in this piece because she wrote a
famous book about how women are treated. This connects to Sanders
because his writing is almost on the same topic.

Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simone_de_Beauvoir

Peter Niro

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:12:55 AM10/26/11
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@ Tena I think a man should look at a women like an equal. There
should not be any difference between the two.

James Wall

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:19:11 AM10/26/11
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There was one word that i had a small clue what it meant but i still
wasent too sure, so i decided to look it up. The word was ogling and
it means " To stare at in a lecherous manner: 'he was ogling her
breasts'; 'men who had turned up to ogle'." so basically it is to
rudely stare at someone or something

Jordan Zima

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:19:29 AM10/26/11
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I think that the introduction starts where it says "On that sizzling July afternoon...." and continues on. I believe that it ends at the end of the paragraph that starts with "Only after much puzzeling...."I think his thesis is the beginning of the last paragraph on page 295. Where it says "How should men look at women? It is peculiarly and perhaps neurotically human question. Billy goats don't fret over how they should look at nanny goats..... in my head."

James Wall

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Oct 26, 2011, 9:30:07 AM10/26/11
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One question i thought stood out to me the most and made me think the
most was "perfume, eye shadow, uplift bras, curled hair, stocking,
jewelry, lipstick, lace- what were these if not hooks thrown out into
male waters?"

Peter Niro

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Oct 26, 2011, 3:31:31 PM10/26/11
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I think that Sanders was trying to tell people about the
discrimination of Women. I think this because he was very serious
when writing this and he also used many examples from real life
experiences and from other texts.

James Wall

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Oct 27, 2011, 7:06:48 AM10/27/11
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I found the question, " how should men look at women?" also. This
question is a real open ended question because it can relate to so
many different topics. You can think of if we should even look at
women, is there a proper way to look at women? If so, what is it
because it seems like even in Scott russell sanders's case, he is
getting yelled at by his mother for looking a a slightly attractive
girl. It just seems wrong in my eyes that there are such stricked
rules nowadays.

James Wall

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Oct 27, 2011, 7:15:11 AM10/27/11
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I did some further research on Jean-Jacques Rousseau because sanders
mentioned him in the story. When I did some further research I found
that "His political philosophy influenced the French Revolution as
well as the overall development of modern political, sociological and
educational thought"(Wikipedia). I think he decided to use Rosseau.
because that philosopher wanted reform and to peel back the layers of
civilization just like sanders described

James Wall

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Oct 27, 2011, 7:32:59 AM10/27/11
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The personal quote I found was " every curve of the buttock an breast
was news to me, an innocent kid from the puritan back roads"(sanders
296). This quote stood out to me because it shows that society has
come far enough to where the way that girl dressed in the beginning is
actually normal in some societies but just not where Scott sanders is
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