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sh...@nospamaaahawk.com

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Nov 11, 2002, 6:57:44 PM11/11/02
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The "View" function in the bookmark file that allows you to manually
sort the order of the bookmarks does not work. It will not allow me to
select "UNSORTED". It does allow me to select other sort orders but
does not do any sorting. It remains in the orignal order no matter
what is selected.

John R Pierce

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Nov 11, 2002, 9:26:13 PM11/11/02
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thats nice. we don't even know what operating system you have, never
mind which web browser.

this isn't browser brand X tech support, its for locality-specific
internet issues such as bitching about flakey ISPs, comparing regional
connectivity, etc.


sh...@aaahawk.com

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Nov 12, 2002, 1:28:03 PM11/12/02
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The Opearting System is XP and the Netcape Version is 7
.
This Version is a bug filled defective product whose defieciences are
being kept quiet by Netscape !


On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:26:13 -0800, John R Pierce <sp...@is.invalid>
wrote:

Jeff Liebermann

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Nov 12, 2002, 1:54:16 PM11/12/02
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:28:03 GMT, sh...@aaahawk.com wrote:

>The Opearting System is XP and the Netcape Version is 7
>.
>This Version is a bug filled defective product whose defieciences are
>being kept quiet by Netscape !

It's a conspiracy? Methinks I gave you some things to try when you
posted the exact same question in this newsgroup on 11/8/02. Did you
try any of my suggestions?

However, you do have a point about Netscape which applies to all
versions of Netscape. It opens up the bookmarks and address books on
startup, and leaves them open during a session. It doesn't update
these until you exit. If you crash your system during a session, it
often scrambles these files.

Go to:
http://help.netscape.com/netscape7/index.html?cp=brictrpr3
and see if Netscape has some answers for you. This newsgroup is not
intended to be used for browser or OS support. If you fail there, try
the various Netscape specific newsgroups at:
news:netscape.public.general

Oh yeah, about that conspiracy to suppress bugs, here's the NS7 bug
list and release notes:

http://wp.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/ns7/relnotes/7.html?cp=hlpcininfo5
Under "bookmarks", it mentions:
"Bookmarks cannot be rearranged if you have sorted them. To rearrange
them, select Unsorted from the View menu, or click the Name column
header until the arrow disappears."


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Bill Pitz

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Nov 12, 2002, 4:36:14 PM11/12/02
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sh...@aaahawk.com wrote:
> The Opearting System is XP and the Netcape Version is 7
> .
> This Version is a bug filled defective product whose defieciences are
> being kept quiet by Netscape !

Yep, those free products just aren't what they used to be. Damn those
things you get for free. They should be MUCH better!

John Higdon

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Nov 12, 2002, 9:10:00 PM11/12/02
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In article <3dd1...@news.svn.net>,
Bill Pitz <remove....@nospam.svn.net> wrote:

XP is free? That's OK...I don't want it anyway. Unix is fine.

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Bill Pitz

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Nov 13, 2002, 10:24:12 AM11/13/02
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John Higdon <no-...@amadeus.kome.com> wrote:
> In article <3dd1...@news.svn.net>,
> Bill Pitz <remove....@nospam.svn.net> wrote:

>> sh...@aaahawk.com wrote:
>> > The Opearting System is XP and the Netcape Version is 7
>> > .
>> > This Version is a bug filled defective product whose defieciences are
>> > being kept quiet by Netscape !
>>
>> Yep, those free products just aren't what they used to be. Damn those
>> things you get for free. They should be MUCH better!

> XP is free? That's OK...I don't want it anyway. Unix is fine.

Netscape = Free.

John Higdon

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Nov 13, 2002, 11:50:08 AM11/13/02
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In article <3dd2...@news.svn.net>,
Bill Pitz <remove....@nospam.svn.net> wrote:

> John Higdon <no-...@amadeus.kome.com> wrote:
> > In article <3dd1...@news.svn.net>,
> > Bill Pitz <remove....@nospam.svn.net> wrote:
>
> >> sh...@aaahawk.com wrote:
> >> > The Opearting System is XP and the Netcape Version is 7
> >> > .
> >> > This Version is a bug filled defective product whose defieciences are
> >> > being kept quiet by Netscape !
> >>
> >> Yep, those free products just aren't what they used to be. Damn those
> >> things you get for free. They should be MUCH better!
>
> > XP is free? That's OK...I don't want it anyway. Unix is fine.
>
> Netscape = Free.

Then I have to take issue with your original statement. I'm running lots
of Unix Freeware that is superb. There are all kinds of utilities and
applications that are solid and trouble-free. Those free products are
every bit what they used to be and more.

Bill Pitz

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Nov 13, 2002, 1:59:56 PM11/13/02
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John Higdon <no-...@amadeus.kome.com> wrote:
>> Netscape = Free.

> Then I have to take issue with your original statement. I'm running lots
> of Unix Freeware that is superb. There are all kinds of utilities and
> applications that are solid and trouble-free. Those free products are
> every bit what they used to be and more.

*sigh*

Believe me, I know. My point is that it I find it mildly entertaining when
people ramble on about how terrible some free thing is (whether it be
software or anything else). For example "This Netscape software is absolute
garbage! Such and such doesn't work, so I'M NOT GOING TO USE IT ANYMORE!"
It's not as if Netscape cares if one person stops not paying them for their
free software.

-Bill

Philip J. Koenig

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Nov 14, 2002, 3:15:54 AM11/14/02
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In article <3dd2...@news.svn.net>, remove....@nospam.svn.net (Bill Pitz)
writes...


Actually they do - because the only reason they continue to
produce such 'free' software is to help enhance their actual
revenue streams.

Why does Microsoft spend billions of dollars developing Internet
Explorer? Certainly not charity - it helps drive revenue dollars
to them in various other ways. (server software, MSN and Hotmail
revenues, partnering deals with other companies, enhances their
Windows business so enhances the revenue stream there, etc etc)

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John Higdon

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Nov 14, 2002, 12:27:57 PM11/14/02
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In article <MPG.183cfb911...@corp.supernews.com>,

Philip J. Koenig <See_email_@ddress_below.This_one_is.invalid> wrote:

> Why does Microsoft spend billions of dollars developing Internet
> Explorer? Certainly not charity - it helps drive revenue dollars
> to them in various other ways. (server software, MSN and Hotmail
> revenues, partnering deals with other companies, enhances their
> Windows business so enhances the revenue stream there, etc etc)

Microsoft realizes that if it wants to dictate "standards" to the
net.world, it must control both the client and the server. By owning the
ubiquitous browser, Microsoft is in a position to dictate the rules to
all those who would presume to sell servers and other content providing
systems.

I'll never forget a line on a web page recently visited: "You must use
Microsoft Internet Explorer to obtain the FULL experience from this
website." Whatever happened to the open and universal standard of the
Internet?

Microsoft views the web as a gigantic transaction-enabling system which
it wants to control end-to-end and collect tribute on every dollar that
flows thereon. To do that, it needs to make sure that YOU use its
software...even if it appears to be giving it to you.

sh...@aaahawk.com

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Nov 14, 2002, 2:02:28 PM11/14/02
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Thank You JEFF your referral to the release notes fix by clicking
on NAME fixed the problem.


On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:57:44 GMT, sh...@NOSPAMaaahawk.com wrote:

Philip J. Koenig

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Nov 16, 2002, 10:46:43 AM11/16/02
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In article <no-spam-C415BF...@equine.announcetech.com>, no-
sp...@amadeus.kome.com (John Higdon) writes...


Yep. And for the view on this type of thing from the guy
credited with inventing the web:

"Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X'
label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days,
before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document
written on another computer, another word processor, or another
network."

-Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996


A recent interview about MSN's attempt to lockout non-IE browsers:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2001OctDec/0045.html


Position statement by the W3C, the organization which Tim heads
and which is responsible for setting web standards, on why you
should have a standards-compliant website:

http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/07/WebAgency-Requirements

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