What about UUNET/Alternet?
Wilson J. Chan
to be exact) and have been following this group for a while. How come
no one has mentioned Alternet? Is there something wrong with them?
--wilson
jory bell
impression of UU/Alternet. We are getting a fractional T1 in a couple
weeks, and if I could afford it, I think I'd go with them (as it is, we'll
probaby go with Internex). UU/Alternet's competitors are (essentially)
Sprint (very sales oriented, not very into the technology, but still
pretty good...some people refer to recent problem with their network, but
everything seems to be fine at this time), Net99 (traceroutes revealed
some unexpected delay/latency, but their relatively lower costs make them
increasingly popular with reseller ISPs), MCI (no pricing/availability
info beyond their new consumer dialup offring... theoretically the larget
carrier in the world), ANSnet (also no pricing unless you are a huge
regional carrier... still a great backbone even if they were just bought
by AOL).
I'd imagine the dearth of discussion concerning Alternet and their ilk is
due largely to their high costs ($5000 startup, $3000 monthly for a T1),
and associated higher levels of service. Most of the discussion on
ba.internet centers around resellers who provide dialup to individuals, or
the "second tier" of ISP resellers who get their access through one of the
bigger players.
Of course, I'd love to hear more knowledgeable assessments of both
UU/Alternet and the other "big" ISPs.
jory bell
jo...@mit.edu
In article <3dpe98$9...@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, wil...@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
(Wilson J. Chan) wrote:
: Hi, I'm considering getting a T1 connection in the Bay Area (East Bay
Paul A Vixie
access. Alternet isn't cheap. But they have a hell of a nice backbone;
you can ping them (ns.uu.net for example) from just about anywhere and get
a nice short path. (Unless you are on TLG, which is a long haul from just
about anywhere.) Alternet also charges more for resale-level access. What
I see in my business is that folks who just want good access, don't want
to resell, and don't mind paying a little extra for better access and better
service, go with Alternet. When someone wants a cheap link I point them at
SprintLink.
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Paul Vixie
La Honda, CA
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Wolfgang Henke
: SprintLink.
Paul,
a question for a DNS guru :-). I heard that Sprintlink sold 27,000 T1
TCP/IP Internet links in the last year. The figure seems high to me.
If true it would make them the largest ISP?
Wolfgang
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Paul A Vixie
More like a DNS shaman, or maybe a DNS snake oil manufacturer. But whatever.
>I heard that Sprintlink sold 27,000 T1 TCP/IP Internet links in the last year.
>The figure seems high to me. If true it would make them the largest ISP?
I think so, yes. That is, the number seems high to me, too, but if true it
would be more links than I have personally counted or heard of anywhere else.
Sean Doran
>>I heard that Sprintlink sold 27,000 T1 TCP/IP Internet links in the last year.
>>The figure seems high to me. If true it would make them the largest ISP?
>I think so, yes. That is, the number seems high to me, too, but if true it
>would be more links than I have personally counted or heard of anywhere else.
The figure for DS1s (not counting fractional DS1s or DS0s or Frame Relay)
actually turned up and working is off by about two orders of magnitude.
"The Largest ISP" really depends on how you measure size. By traffic
volume, according to the reports given to the NSF, Sprint's traffic
surpassed the NSFNET backbone service's in November. By number of
dedicated connections, Sprint is probably the largest backbone provider.
These metrics probably aren't very important on their own, but
they do lead one into interesting questions about how various ISPs
are dealing with issues of scale.
I'm biased so I'll shut up now.
Sean.
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Sean Doran <s...@fish.com>
Beaulieu, John
(dks) wrote:
>Any satisfied customers of AIMnet or InterNEX, out there? Send me your
>comments, please.
>
We have a 56K Frame Relay connection with Aimnet and have been very happy
with their service. They have great communications with their client base.
Perhaps the best thing has been the technical support.
John
Ben Klau
happy with their service, especially the extent of newsgroups, but find their
prices to be a bit outrageous. They do provide a 1-800 number, however, which
is nice if you're on the road a lot.
Ben