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Felis Concolor

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Sep 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/14/99
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A recent lost chance to eat some has left me hungry for
rice pudding. Now, I'd enjoy hearing about any places
that serve a _good_ rice pudding, not something out of
a can. South Bay preferred; and yes, I'd be interested
in hearing about takeouts, too.

Lenore Levine

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Karen O'Mara

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
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Felis Concolor wrote:

> A recent lost chance to eat some has left me hungry for
> rice pudding. Now, I'd enjoy hearing about any places
> that serve a _good_ rice pudding, not something out of
> a can. South Bay preferred; and yes, I'd be interested
> in hearing about takeouts, too.
>
> Lenore Levine

Have you tried Kozy Shack's? It's in the refrigerated section of your
grocery store (by the pudding stuff) and at Costco, too.

It's a good product.

http://www.kozyshack.com/

Karen


Jim Hunt

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
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|> Felis Concolor wrote:
|>
|> > A recent lost chance to eat some has left me hungry for
|> > rice pudding. Now, I'd enjoy hearing about any places
|> > that serve a _good_ rice pudding, not something out of
|> > a can. South Bay preferred; and yes, I'd be interested
|> > in hearing about takeouts, too.
|> >
|> > Lenore Levine
|>
|> Have you tried Kozy Shack's? It's in the refrigerated section of your
|> grocery store (by the pudding stuff) and at Costco, too.

Kozy Shack has rather deep expiration dates for my comfort.
Rice pudding is a milk product, and should be treated as one.

I get cravings for rice pudding too, and any indian lunch place
will subdue them for a month or so. But I recently noticed that
many taquerias have takeout packages of rice pudding. The spices
are different, cinnamon instead of pistachio, but still rice
pudding. And because it is distributed locally, it's quite fresh.

Look in the refrigerated case with the bebidas and agua frescas.

--

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Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Karen O'Mara

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
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Jim Hunt wrote:

> Kozy Shack has rather deep expiration dates for my comfort.
> Rice pudding is a milk product, and should be treated as one.

Kozy Shack's rice pudding is made from fresh milk, rice, eggs, sugar, pure
vanilla and a little salt. That's it. No preservatives, all natural
ingredients. Probably similar refrigerated shelf life as other dairy
products..? Cinnamon packets are included.

Someone the other day told me they loved the rice pudding dessert at Amber
India Restaurant., btw.

Karen

Gregory Sutter

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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In article <37E01DAE...@randomgraphics.com>, Karen O'Mara wrote:
>
>Someone the other day told me they loved the rice pudding dessert at Amber
>India Restaurant., btw.

Well, what's _not_ to love at Amber? It's the best Indian in the bay
area. It's one of my favorite restaurants anywhere. Mmmmm, must get
back to Mountain View soon...

Greg
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Robert Lauriston

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Jim Hunt wrote:
>
> Kozy Shack has rather deep expiration dates for my comfort.
> Rice pudding is a milk product, and should be treated as one.

It's a *cooked* milk product. The expiration dates are if anything too
conservative.

Abby Franquemont

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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In article <37E01DAE...@randomgraphics.com>,

Karen O'Mara <ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:
>Kozy Shack's rice pudding is made from fresh milk, rice, eggs, sugar, pure
>vanilla and a little salt. That's it. No preservatives, all natural
>ingredients. Probably similar refrigerated shelf life as other dairy
>products..? Cinnamon packets are included.

Other cooked dairy products for sure. Anyway, I agree, it's an acceptable
rice pudding to have sitting around in the fridge, and it's even been
approved and certified as edible by my one-and-a-half-year-old son. Now,
if anyone has suggestions for using it to camouflage large amounts of
protein, I'm all ears.
--
Abby Franquemont "I might have amnesia -- but I'm not stupid!"
J. Random BOFH --Jackie Chan

Todd Michel McComb

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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In article <7rs0l6$7...@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com>,
Valerie <vst...@netcom.com> wrote:
>Actually, I was underwhelmed by Amber. Boring food, high prices,
>slow service.

I felt similarly. At the time I tried it, I had no idea people regarded
it so highly, so maybe I wasn't paying much attention, but it sure
made little impression.

We did try DeeDee's last night, based at least in part on some remarks
here. Confusing place... definitely intriguing though.


Valerie

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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In article <slrn7u1863....@localhost.zer0.org>,

Gregory Sutter <gsu...@zer0.org> wrote:
>In article <37E01DAE...@randomgraphics.com>, Karen O'Mara wrote:
>>
>>Someone the other day told me they loved the rice pudding dessert at Amber
>>India Restaurant., btw.
>
>Well, what's _not_ to love at Amber? It's the best Indian in the bay
>area. It's one of my favorite restaurants anywhere. Mmmmm, must get
>back to Mountain View soon...

Actually, I was underwhelmed by Amber. Boring food, high prices, slow
service. Still beats the place where we found a bag tie in the rice, though.


Val

Gregory Sutter

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Funny, I just sent a friend and his fiancee there for dinner. He
came back and thanked me because they enjoyed their meal so much.
The thing that shocked me the most was when he mentioned that there
was excellent service--"someone always peeking around the corner to
make sure our water was full and we didn't need anything" were his
approximate words. I've never gotten service quite _that_ nice at
Amber, but it's always been pretty good.

I think perhaps you went either on a pretty bad night for Amber or
when you were in a grumpy mood.

Greg
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Karen O'Mara

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Gregory Sutter wrote:

> Funny, I just sent a friend and his fiancee there for dinner. He
> came back and thanked me because they enjoyed their meal so much.
> The thing that shocked me the most was when he mentioned that there
> was excellent service--"someone always peeking around the corner to
> make sure our water was full and we didn't need anything" were his
> approximate words. I've never gotten service quite _that_ nice at
> Amber, but it's always been pretty good.

I went to Amber one night a few weeks ago for the first time for dinner (have had
the buffet lunch many times), and the service was *perfect*.

It stood out.

Can we talk?

You see, sometimes when dining out with another woman, and at all types of
restaurants, I notice service to be noticeably much slower than if I am dining
with a man (why is that, anyway?! It's very annoying.) This time, at Amber, I was
with another woman and my teenaged daughter (another strike for good service) and
the service was as good as I've had anywhere, anytime and with anybody, if not
better. Drinks were served, water glasses refilled, plates taken away, dishes
served, as if the waiter was reading our minds... It was well, a refreshing
experience.

The Butter Chicken is better at lunchtime, btw.

Karen


Tricia

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Karen O'Mara wrote:

>
> I went to Amber one night a few weeks ago for the first time for dinner (have had
> the buffet lunch many times), and the service was *perfect*.
>
> It stood out.
>

I agree! :-)


> Can we talk?
>
> You see, sometimes when dining out with another woman, and at all types of
> restaurants, I notice service to be noticeably much slower than if I am dining
> with a man (why is that, anyway?! It's very annoying.) This time, at Amber, I was

I've noticed this too. What's up with that?

> with another woman and my teenaged daughter (another strike for good service) and
> the service was as good as I've had anywhere, anytime and with anybody, if not
> better. Drinks were served, water glasses refilled, plates taken away, dishes
> served, as if the waiter was reading our minds... It was well, a refreshing
> experience.

The service was fantastic, very attentive without being obtrusive. I look
forward to future visits.


> The Butter Chicken is better at lunchtime, btw.

It was so good at dinner, I wish I could make it there for lunch sometime.
Do they have the lunch buffet on weekends?

Tricia
who still feels a little guilty that she got to take home the leftovers.


Lisa Garvey

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Tricia wrote:

> Karen O'Mara wrote:
>
> >
> > I went to Amber one night a few weeks ago for the first time for dinner (have had
> > the buffet lunch many times), and the service was *perfect*.
> >
> > It stood out.
> >
> I agree! :-)
>
>
> > Can we talk?
> >
> > You see, sometimes when dining out with another woman, and at all types of
> > restaurants, I notice service to be noticeably much slower than if I am dining
> > with a man (why is that, anyway?! It's very annoying.) This time, at Amber, I was
>
> I've noticed this too. What's up with that?

As a former restaurant person (server and bartender), I suspect it's because groups of
women are among the worst tippers ever. If they're teachers, you might as well assume a
5% gratuity. But if they happen to also be in the service industry, especially
restaurants or hair salons, they will be fantastic tippers, and a joy to wait on.
As a rule, men are easier to wait on because they're lower-maintenance (no special
requests for lemon in the water, no dressing on the side, no appetizers as an entree,
etc.) and generally more respectful of good service.
Before I get thoroughly flamed for writing this, let me say that I'm a woman too! But
all of my restaurant and ex-restaurant buddies, male and female, agree that groups of
women in restaurants give women a bad name.

Cheers!
Lisa

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Karen O'Mara

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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Lisa Garvey wrote:

> As a former restaurant person (server and bartender), I suspect it's because groups of
> women are among the worst tippers ever. If they're teachers, you might as well assume a
> 5% gratuity. But if they happen to also be in the service industry, especially
> restaurants or hair salons, they will be fantastic tippers, and a joy to wait on.
> As a rule, men are easier to wait on because they're lower-maintenance (no special
> requests for lemon in the water, no dressing on the side, no appetizers as an entree,
> etc.) and generally more respectful of good service.
> Before I get thoroughly flamed for writing this, let me say that I'm a woman too! But
> all of my restaurant and ex-restaurant buddies, male and female, agree that groups of
> women in restaurants give women a bad name.

A server who expects a bad tip because s/he is waiting on a woman, and gives bad service
because of this anticipation, will probably get a smaller tip because of service s/he is
giving stinks, and s/he is perpetuating the so-called problem. otoh, a server that gives
such wonderful service like that one at Amber, will probably be reporting that women are
the bigger tippers these days...

I wish the server at Amber could comment on this.

Karen

Valerie

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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In article <slrn7u3sbj....@localhost.zer0.org>,
Gregory Sutter <gsu...@zer0.org> presumed a fair bit when he told me:

>
>I think perhaps you went either on a pretty bad night for Amber or
>when you were in a grumpy mood.

Well, it certainly wasn't my mood! Boring dinner aside, it was a
wonderful date. We went dancing afterwards.


Val

Steve Pope

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Sep 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/18/99
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Karen O'Mara <ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:

> A server who expects a bad tip because s/he is waiting on a
> woman, and gives bad service because of this anticipation, will
> probably get a smaller tip because of service s/he is giving
> stinks, and s/he is perpetuating the so-called problem.

Very good point. Waitstaff should give equal service to
customers regardless of whether they meet some stereoptype
in the waitperson's mind of a good or a bad tipper. In
fact, if I notice a waitperson giving poor service to a
customer not in my party because of that customer's
appearance or whatever, I factor that in negatively when
tipping, even if the service I and my party receive is excellent.

Steve

Bill Garrett

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Sep 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/20/99
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Karen O'Mara <ka...@randomgraphics.com> writes:
} A server who expects a bad tip because s/he is waiting on a woman,
} and gives bad service because of this anticipation, will probably
} get a smaller tip because of service s/he is giving stinks, and
} s/he is perpetuating the so-called problem.

My friends and I experienced this problem when we were in our
late teens. We'd often get poor service at restaurants, ostensibly
because the waitstaff assumed that all teenagers were stingy tippers
and treated us accordingly. My friends and I all happened to be
conscientious tippers, as most of us worked in food service ourselves,
but it was a self-fulfilling prophecy on the part of the waiters
and waitresses. We certainly weren't going to tip well when we
were given abyssmal service.

I had frequent arguments about this with a relative who worked as a
waitress at that time. She told me that she and all her coworkers
"knew" that teenagers were stingy tippers and would hence put out
less effort serving them than older customers. None of them seemed
to understand the concept of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I suppose
that's why they were waitresses and not rocket scientists.

--
Bill Garrett Nobody, on their deathbed, ever said,
wfg1 @ concentric.net "I wish I'd spent more time at the office."

Animzmirot

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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>
>Someone the other day told me they loved the rice pudding dessert at Amber
>India Restaurant., btw.

It's good, but a tad too runny for my taste. I happen to love Greek rice
pudding, so I'd look for a greek restaurant if I was hankering after rice
pudding, but it is so easy to make yourself. Lots of vanilla is the secret!


Isn't weather relative?

Animzmirot

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Sep 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/22/99
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>
>Well, what's _not_ to love at Amber? It's the best Indian in the bay
>area. It's one of my favorite restaurants anywhere. Mmmmm, must get
>back to Mountain View soon...
>

Sssshhhhh, it's crowded enough as it is. Don't tell anyone else about it. :-)


Isn't weather relative?

orl...@ricexpuddi.killspam.us.com

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Sep 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/23/99
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last night i bought rice pudding from trader joe's and i loved it!
not as good as mine, but it satisfied my rice pudding craving :)

orlando


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