What Are "Papas?"
Geoff Miller
Occasionally I'll see a bumper sticker advertising a place
in Ensenada called Papas & Beer. What are "papas?" The word
on the bumper sticker has no apostrophe, and so between the
lack of a possessive form and the phrasing, I assume it refers
to a type of food and not to some guy nicknamed Papa who owns
the joint. Are papas something hors d'oeuvre-like, perhaps
the Mexican version of tapas?
Geoff
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Meg Worley
Geoffski writes:
>Occasionally I'll see a bumper sticker advertising a place
>in Ensenada called Papas & Beer. What are "papas?" The word
>on the bumper sticker has no apostrophe, and so between the
>lack of a possessive form and the phrasing, I assume it refers
>to a type of food and not to some guy nicknamed Papa who owns
>the joint. Are papas something hors d'oeuvre-like, perhaps
>the Mexican version of tapas?
I don't know about the joint with the bumpersticker, but
all over Latin America, "papas" are taters -- as in
papas fritas (like pommes frites, but Hispanic-er).
Rage away,
meg
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Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Occasionally I'll see a bumper sticker advertising a place
> in Ensenada called Papas & Beer. What are "papas?" The word
> on the bumper sticker has no apostrophe, and so between the
> lack of a possessive form and the phrasing, I assume it refers
> to a type of food and not to some guy nicknamed Papa who owns
> the joint. Are papas something hors d'oeuvre-like, perhaps
> the Mexican version of tapas?
I think they're French fries....
Karen
Jason E. McClelland
~j
Geoff Miller wrote:
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Papas is Mexican slang for potatoes, I believe.
Oh! I was thinking it was French fries, but you're right, it's
potatoes. That's Papas "Fritas" for French fries (fritas is fried),
maybe...
Karen
Paul Conley
Papas are potatoes. Papas fritas are French fries.
Paul
orl...@whatxarexx.killspam.us.com
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> the more colloquial term for fries is "papitas".
So, back to the original question, what exactly is the "papas" part of
"Papas & Beer" -- at the cantina servng potatoes and beer in Ensenada --
how are these potatoes prepared? (If they were fried, or French-fried, I
am guessing the bumpersticker would have said, Papitas & Beer, or Papas
Fritas & Beer, etc.. )
Karen
JD
Peter L
Er, ok the internet is great. But there is no explanation for the name.
Paul Conley
Papas are potatoes. In Spanish, "ito" and "ita" are diminutive forms. For
example, "la casa" means "the house, while "la casita" means "the little
house".
Saludos,
Paul
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Er, ok the internet is great. But there is no explanation for the name.
My cow orker went to this place in Ensenada a few weeks ago, and seems to
recall that PAPAS on the menu referred to the APPETIZER section. And he
doesn't recall any potato appetizer choices.
So, maybe it's like Hawaiian, where PUPUS (almost like PAPAS) means appetizers
or hors d'eourves.
Karen
Peter L
Maybe, cause I don't think it's a full service restaurant. So maybe
just appetizers and beers.
Ward Stewart
<ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:
>Peter L wrote:
>
>> Er, ok the internet is great. But there is no explanation for the name.
>
>My cow orker went to this place in Ensenada a few weeks ago, and seems to
>recall that PAPAS on the menu referred to the APPETIZER section. And he
>doesn't recall any potato appetizer choices.
>
>So, maybe it's like Hawaiian, where PUPUS (almost like PAPAS) means appetizers
>or hors d'eourves.
>
>Karen
Actually, pupus are shells, as in "pearly Shells" -- "Pupu o ewa" in
Hawaiian --
I am however mystified as to what "cow orkers" may be and what are
they up to -- sounds a bit kinky to me.
ward
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Allan Schaffer
>I am however mystified as to what "cow orkers" may be and what are
>they up to -- sounds a bit kinky to me.
Take the space out.
But it's funnier with it left in..
Allan
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Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Actually, pupus are shells, as in "pearly Shells" -- "Pupu o ewa" in
> Hawaiian --
Can't a word have two meanings in Hawaiian? (Like the word, "aloha"?) I'm fairly
certain pupus is a word used for little hor d'eourve-y type foods in Hawaii. It's
something like that, anyway.
Karen
Peter L
>
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:09:13 -0700, Karen Anderson O'Mara
> <ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:
>
> >Peter L wrote:
> >
> >> Er, ok the internet is great. But there is no explanation for the name.
> >
> >My cow orker went to this place in Ensenada a few weeks ago, and seems to
> >recall that PAPAS on the menu referred to the APPETIZER section. And he
> >doesn't recall any potato appetizer choices.
> >
> >So, maybe it's like Hawaiian, where PUPUS (almost like PAPAS) means appetizers
> >or hors d'eourves.
> >
> >Karen
>
> Hawaiian --
>
> they up to -- sounds a bit kinky to me.
>
And Karen actually owns some cow orkers.
notbob
Peter L wrote:
>
> JD wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 08:28:48 -0700, Karen Anderson O'Mara
> > <ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:
> >
> > >orl...@WhatXAreXX.killspam.us.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> the more colloquial term for fries is "papitas".
> > >
> > >So, back to the original question, what exactly is the "papas" part of
> > >"Papas & Beer" -- at the cantina servng potatoes and beer in Ensenada --
> > >how are these potatoes prepared? (If they were fried, or French-fried, I
> > >am guessing the bumpersticker would have said, Papitas & Beer, or Papas
> > >Fritas & Beer, etc.. )
> >
> > http://www.papasandbeer.com
> >
> > ain't the www great! ;o-/
> >
> > jd
>
> Er, ok the internet is great. But there is no explanation for the name.
...and the site only adds to the mystery as it's obvious the place is
actually a meat market.
nb
Will Borgeson
: Yn erthygl <3945482D...@netobjects.com>, sgrifenws "Jason E.
: McClelland" <jmccl...@netobjects.com>:
:>Papas is Mexican slang for potatoes, I believe.
:>
:>~j
:>
: It's not <slang>, it IS the word for potato... Papa (capitalized) is
: also what they call the Pope--"El Papa" (<la> papa is "the potato")
: Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this newsgroup? I
: <thought> this was California! Jesus, I see everyone translating some
: of the most bizarre dialects there are, and people are <speculating>
: as to the meaning of papa??
: Wow. How do you all communicate with your gardeners?
Momentito, amigo. Papa is one Spanish word for potato. In Spain, it's
usually patatas...there are probably others, just as we have spuds, taters
etc.
Gardeners, that's pretty funny. Necesitamos no shtinkin gardeners.
Will
notbob
bizbee wrote:
>
> Yn erthygl <3945482D...@netobjects.com>, sgrifenws "Jason E.
> McClelland" <jmccl...@netobjects.com>:
>
> >Papas is Mexican slang for potatoes, I believe.
> >
> >~j
> >
> It's not <slang>, it IS the word for potato... Papa (capitalized) is
> also what they call the Pope--"El Papa" (<la> papa is "the potato")
>
> Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this newsgroup? I
> <thought> this was California! Jesus, I see everyone translating some
> of the most bizarre dialects there are, and people are <speculating>
> as to the meaning of papa??
> Wow. How do you all communicate with your gardeners?
My mailman translates...
mag...@rahul.net
babelfish.
But I haven't had reason to tell my gardeners how to care for my
potatoes, so papas hasn't come up. Not to mention, babelfish
translates papas as Pope (or Popes) rather than potato (or
potatoes) anyway.
jc
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> ...and the site only adds to the mystery as it's obvious the place is
> actually a meat market.
It's where the cruise ships dump all those tourists who get reallly drunk and
then go back to the ship.
Karen
mag...@rahul.net
wrote:
>...and the site only adds to the mystery as it's obvious the place is
>actually a meat market.
Meat and potatoes!
jc
Ward Stewart
<ka...@randomgraphics.com> wrote:
>Ward Stewart wrote:
>
>> Actually, pupus are shells, as in "pearly Shells" -- "Pupu o ewa" in
>> Hawaiian --
>
>Can't a word have two meanings in Hawaiian? (Like the word, "aloha"?) I'm fairly
>certain pupus is a word used for little hor d'eourve-y type foods in Hawaii. It's
>something like that, anyway.
>
>Karen
Aloha Karen --
You are, of course, entirely correct. The shells referred to pupus
are containers for small portions of 'hors d' ouvre.' The word
describes the carrier AND the contents -- pupus can be served on
plates or on pieces of ti or banana leaves.
ward
Geoff Miller
bizbee <tub...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this
> newsgroup? I <thought> this was California!
It's also America, and as an American, I have no need for
any languages save English. On the rare occasions when
somebody doesn't understand me, I just talk louder.
ObFood: I had lunch at Boston Market with a passel of cow-
orkers today. That place isn't half-bad!
Geoff
--
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Canadians, or Eskimos, or Natives of any kind. It seems that
you are just a two bit racist, thats all." -- Floyd Davidson
Meg Worley
I wrote:
>>I don't know about the joint with the bumpersticker, but
>>all over Latin America, "papas" are taters -- as in
>>papas fritas (like pommes frites, but Hispanic-er).
Bizbee writes:
>On the other hand, perhaps it's a referral to some sort of celebration
>of Popes....
Or Hemingway impressionists....
ObFood: cheese-tomato-basil sandwiches, eaten at Lake Del Valle,
right before a nighttime bat-watching boat trip. A *batless*
bat-watching boat trip. We did see an osprey, magpies galore,
a golden eagle, several GBHs, a kingfisher, and zillions of
pesky deer. Why is it that Californians go gaga over the sight
of Bambi? Haven't they ever had a deer-attractor^H^Hgarden?
Bob R. Kenyon
<tub...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Yn erthygl <3945482D...@netobjects.com>, sgrifenws "Jason E.
> McClelland" <jmccl...@netobjects.com>:
>
> >Papas is Mexican slang for potatoes, I believe.
> >
> >~j
> >
> It's not <slang>, it IS the word for potato... Papa (capitalized) is
> also what they call the Pope--"El Papa" (<la> papa is "the potato")
>
> Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this newsgroup? I
> <thought> this was California! Jesus, I see everyone translating some
> of the most bizarre dialects there are, and people are <speculating>
> as to the meaning of papa??
> Wow. How do you all communicate with your gardeners?
Or your relatives?
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Margarita Lacabe
> Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this newsgroup? I
> <thought> this was California! Jesus, I see everyone translating some
> of the most bizarre dialects there are, and people are <speculating>
> as to the meaning of papa??
Ok, Ok. The word papas mean, quite simply, potatoes. Papas fritas
mean french fries (or fried potatoes). Some people say papas meaning
papas fritas, just as some people say fries meaning french fries.
Where I come from papitas fritas is usually used to refer to potato
chips (the ones that come in bags), but just as the word "chip" means
different things in different places, I'm sure papitas mean something
else in other spanish speaking areas.
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Michael Dix
>
> Yn erthygl <3945482D...@netobjects.com>, sgrifenws "Jason E.
> McClelland" <jmccl...@netobjects.com>:
>
> >Papas is Mexican slang for potatoes, I believe.
> >
> >~j
> >
> It's not <slang>, it IS the word for potato... Papa (capitalized) is
> also what they call the Pope--"El Papa" (<la> papa is "the potato")
>
> <thought> this was California! Jesus, I see everyone translating some
> of the most bizarre dialects there are, and people are <speculating>
> as to the meaning of papa??
Well, first of all, I seldom talk to myself, and for all other
occasions, I usually start out by saying, "Honey?"
Mike Dix
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Meg Worley
Marga escribe:
>Where I come from papitas fritas is usually used to refer to potato
>chips (the ones that come in bags), but just as the word "chip" means
>different things in different places, I'm sure papitas mean something
>else in other spanish speaking areas.
In my experience (full disclosure: two years hitchhiking from
El Paso to Ushuaia and back to Asuncion), anything with the
"ito/a" diminutive refers to dicks 'n' tits *somewhere* in
the Latin world. There is at least one linguistic community
in the world where "papitas" no doubt means gazongas -- I'll
stake my reputation on it.
ObPapitas: Terra blue chips
Mary Kay Kare
Worley) wrote:
>
> ObFood: cheese-tomato-basil sandwiches, eaten at Lake Del Valle,
OOOO. I had one of those this very day for lunch--fresh mozzarella,
sliced tomatos, fresh basil on sourdough baguette. Andronicos, where I
bought it, calls it Panini Caprese. I call it marvelous.
MK
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mag...@rahul.net
Worley) wrote:
>ObFood: cheese-tomato-basil sandwiches, eaten at Lake Del Valle,
>right before a nighttime bat-watching boat trip. A *batless*
>bat-watching boat trip. We did see an osprey, magpies galore,
>a golden eagle, several GBHs, a kingfisher, and zillions of
>pesky deer. Why is it that Californians go gaga over the sight
>of Bambi? Haven't they ever had a deer-attractor^H^Hgarden?
Mmmm. Venison.
jc
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Janis Lane
> Wow. How do you all communicate with your gardeners?
My gardener doesn't listen to what I ask of him in any language.
Janis
David Arnstein
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>In my experience (full disclosure: two years hitchhiking from
>El Paso to Ushuaia and back to Asuncion), anything with the
>"ito/a" diminutive refers to dicks 'n' tits *somewhere* in
>the Latin world. There is at least one linguistic community
>in the world where "papitas" no doubt means gazongas -- I'll
>stake my reputation on it.
Just imagine a panel discussion hosted at Chez TJ featuring
Meg Worley
Geoff Miller
Will Borgeson
Fun!
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Allan Schaffer
>Just imagine a panel discussion hosted at Chez TJ featuring
> Meg Worley
> Geoff Miller
> Will Borgeson
Set it up and I'm there. :-) Table for 20..
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> arnstei...@netcom.com said..
> >Just imagine a panel discussion hosted at Chez TJ featuring
> > Meg Worley
> > Geoff Miller
> > Will Borgeson
>
> Set it up and I'm there. :-) Table for 20..
Woo hoo! I'll bring snacks!!
Karen
Doomster
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
|
|In my experience (full disclosure: two years hitchhiking from
|El Paso to Ushuaia and back to Asuncion), anything with the
|"ito/a" diminutive refers to dicks 'n' tits *somewhere* in
|the Latin world. There is at least one linguistic community
|in the world where "papitas" no doubt means gazongas -- I'll
|stake my reputation on it.
That reminds me of that comedy routine by George Lopez, a
Hispanic comedian. He said Taco Bell's "chilitos" meant
penis in Mexico:
"Come on! You wouldn't go into a Jewish delicatessen and order
a 'schlong' would you?"
Doomster
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mag...@rahul.net
Schaffer) wrote:
>arnstei...@netcom.com said..
>>Just imagine a panel discussion hosted at Chez TJ featuring
>> Meg Worley
>> Geoff Miller
>> Will Borgeson
>
>Set it up and I'm there. :-) Table for 20..
Ditto!
jc
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Allan Schaffer wrote:
>
> > arnstei...@netcom.com said..
> > >Just imagine a panel discussion hosted at Chez TJ featuring
> > > Meg Worley
> > > Geoff Miller
> > > Will Borgeson
> >
> > Set it up and I'm there. :-) Table for 20..
>
> Woo hoo! I'll bring snacks!!
OH ack. Sometimes I wind my curlers too tight. Of course, if the
panel discussion was at Chez TJ, I wouldn't bring snacks...
perhaps some doggie bags, though.
Karen
Peter L
The Ranger
Peter L asked:
[concerning The BA.Food Celeb panel]
> What's the topic of discussion?
Come on Peter! Show a little adventure.
Pay the door fee (would be worth it just to eat at Chez TJ's) and watch the
cage match as Masked Meg tears into Goring Geoff and The Borg assimilates...
Education for the palate and the mind; don't get no better. Count two more
in on the attendees' list. <G>
The Ranger
Peter L
There's going to be a cage? Make that a cage and a tub of jello, and I
am there.
Meg Worley
Ranger wrote:
>> Come on Peter! Show a little adventure.
>>
>> Pay the door fee (would be worth it just to eat at Chez TJ's) and watch the
>> cage match as Masked Meg tears into Goring Geoff and The Borg assimilates...
>There's going to be a cage? Make that a cage and a tub of jello, and I
>am there.
I am *not* getting into a tub of jello with Geoffski, and that's
final.
ObFood, because jello ain't food: ice cream for lunch, because
it's 92 in my office. It's so damn hot, I actually drank a
coke yesterday. Man, that stuff's narsty.
Peter L
What a wimp. It's hundred and ten here in Sacto and we are still
working.
Jeffrey Lichtman
> I am *not* getting into a tub of jello with Geoffski, and that's
> final.
>
Is it Geoff or the jello you object to?
Why not just pick Geoff up and throw him into the tub of jello?
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Michael Dix
"Schlong" means snake. So it would have to be a Sino-Hebrew
deli.
Meg Worley
I averred:
>> I am *not* getting into a tub of jello with Geoffski, and that's
>> final.
Jeff wonders:
>Is it Geoff or the jello you object to?
Yes, as a matter of fact.
>Why not just pick Geoff up and throw him into the tub of jello?
And here I thought y'all appreciated me for my smoooooth
rhetorical stylings, rather than my ability to move
massive intractable objects! *sniff*
ObFood: takeout Vicolo wild mushroom pizza from Draeger's.
Although I should have ma haid examined for turning on the
oven on a day like today.
Jeffrey Lichtman
>
> >Why not just pick Geoff up and throw him into the tub of jello?
>
> And here I thought y'all appreciated me for my smoooooth
> rhetorical stylings, rather than my ability to move
> massive intractable objects! *sniff*
OK, then, throw Geoff into a tub of poutine while reviewing
the latest "authentic" New-York-style kosher pizza topped
with crispy Chinese noodles.
Meg Worley
Jeff writes:
>OK, then, throw Geoff into a tub of poutine while reviewing
>the latest "authentic" New-York-style kosher pizza topped
>with crispy Chinese noodles.
No, no, no -- homey don't play that game. You're confusing me
with other ba.foodies.
ObFood: nectarines from the farmers market sure make a good
breakfast on a summer morning, with the sound of sprinklers
whirring in the background.
Peter L
anyone not understanding English.
There is that cow orker again. Do they sell them at Wal mart? I
thought it was gaggles of cow orkers. Now you tell me it's passels of
cow orkers.
Boston market, I thought they went under?
Geoff Miller wrote:
>
> bizbee <tub...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
>
> > Damn, what, aren't there <any> Spanish speakers in this
> > newsgroup? I <thought> this was California!
>
Will Borgeson
Re: Schlong...there's a band by that name who have a CD out that's all
covers of the Fleetwood Mac album "Rumours"...Schlong's version's called
"Tumours"...pretty funny stuff.
Will
Brenda Daverin
>Boston market, I thought they went under?
No, just did the business equivalent of dropping back five yards and
punting. And I had a sightem relating to that organization last night that
I really didn't want to see. The Pollo Rey in Mountain View got converted
into an Una Mas with rotisserie chicken. When it was a Pollo Rey, it had a
nice rig for the chicken with mesquite wood as part of the heating element.
Now, they use a roaster they bought off of Boston Market. The Una Mas
sticker was half-off the roaster unit, which is how I knew. They also have
changed the recipe to "honey mustard jalapeno." My husband and I
contemplated that for a moment, then turned around and left without
ordering.
--
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Will Borgeson
intimate female anatomy...
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> One also doesn't want to order "tacos" in Spain. Refers, colloquially, to
> intimate female anatomy...
Heard that about cous cous, too. Not in Spain, of course, but in the country
of where cous cous is from. Where is that, anyway?
Karen
Meg Worley
Will wonders:
>Where's Chez TJ?
Down the road from my house -- you and your gal can stay with
us if the Cage Match Planning Committee won't foot the hotel bill.
Personally I think Charlotte's drunkyuppiedickheadoff sounds
much more promising. I have to have a few beers in me before
I assume my ba.food persona in face-to-face conversation.
It's a mild-mannered-Clark-Kent thang.
Peter L
I find that almost in all cultures all kinds of terms can be used to
refer to intimate female or male anatomies.
Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>
Mark Mellin
m...@steam.stanford.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
>
> Will wonders:
> >Where's Chez TJ?
>
> Down the road from my house --
So, uh, what's considered appropriate attire for panel discussions at
Chez TJ?
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Aahz Maruch
Mark Mellin <mel...@unix.sri.com> wrote:
>
> So, uh, what's considered appropriate attire for panel discussions at
>Chez TJ?
Derby hat, linen shirt, bolo tie, Lycra shorts, and Birkenstocks.
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>m...@steam.stanford.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
>
>>
>> Will wonders:
>> >Where's Chez TJ?
>>
>> Down the road from my house --
>
>Chez TJ?
And how do we make sure they don't serve us too much food?
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Meg Worley
Mark asks:
>So, uh, what's considered appropriate attire for panel discussions at
>Chez TJ?
Tuxedos with "WWF Smackdown" embroidered on the chest, of course.
ObFood: chicken-cilantro calzone from the Law School Cafe.
Peter L
>
> In article <8idv1j$bq4$1...@unix.sri.com>,
> Mark Mellin <mel...@unix.sri.com> wrote:
> >
> >Chez TJ?
>
> --
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>
I don't think the Megster even own a bolo tie. And Birkenstocks are for
Berkeley.
Meg Worley
Aahz suggested:
>> Derby hat, linen shirt, bolo tie, Lycra shorts, and Birkenstocks.
PeterL comments:
>I don't think the Megster even own a bolo tie. And Birkenstocks are for
>Berkeley.
I do so. It's bright yellow-orange, and the little connector-
thingie is the Girl Scout trefoil. I've had it since 1968 or
so. I occasionally wear it, either for kicks or with my
gold crushed-velvet (with black satin lapels) tuxedo jacket.
More to the point, however: Just as in wrasslin', the performers
are free of all "appropriate attire" constraints placed on the
audience.
ObFood: S'mores.
Charlotte L. Blackmer
>us if the Cage Match Planning Committee won't foot the hotel bill.
>
>Personally I think Charlotte's drunkyuppiedickheadoff sounds
>much more promising. I have to have a few beers in me before
>I assume my ba.food persona in face-to-face conversation.
>It's a mild-mannered-Clark-Kent thang.
Yeah, yeah, I know I should get busy on that, but y'all are south-bay
based and I was on an early work schedule up in Berkeley.
If you promise to not wreck furniture, we could start with margaritas at
my place. Guaran-fuckin'-teed no slush.
CLB
------------------------------------------------------
Charlotte L. Blackmer <http://www.rahul.net/clb>
Berkeley Farm and Pleasure Palace (under construction)
Junk (esp. commercial) email review rates: $250 US ea
Nancy Block
>>
>ObFood: takeout Vicolo wild mushroom pizza from Draeger's.
>Although I should have ma haid examined for turning on the
>oven on a day like today.
>
one, and an Andronico's 5 minutes farther, in Stanford Shopping Center. In between
these two, as well as local farmer's markets, I'm amazed that Safeway, on El Camino
in MP, has any customers at all. I would think they'd want to spruce up, but in
fact what the company wants to do is put in an even more immense "super" Safeway.
They do not grok that bigger won't garner them more customers with $$$...
Nancy
(who won't patronize Safeway until they get rid of the beggars, if then)
Peter L
Oh come on, you guys down there near Stanfurd are so anticeptic. Have a
little diversity.
Andrew Shieh
>I don't know which Draeger's you patronize, but I live in MP, where
>there is one, and an Andronico's 5 minutes farther, in Stanford
>Shopping Center. In between these two, as well as local farmer's
>markets, I'm amazed that Safeway, on El Camino in MP, has any
>customers at all.
And Trader Joe's is just three blocks further down El Camino.
Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
costs about half as much.
Michael Nelson
->Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
->safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
->costs about half as much.
Ah, so YOU'RE the guy. Turned it orange, didn't it?
Michael
--
Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA
Michael Dix
>
> Nancy Block wrote:
> >
> > In article 6...@steam.stanford.edu, m...@steam.stanford.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
> > >>
> > >ObFood: takeout Vicolo wild mushroom pizza from Draeger's.
> > >Although I should have ma haid examined for turning on the
> > >oven on a day like today.
> > >
> > one, and an Andronico's 5 minutes farther, in Stanford Shopping Center. In between
> > these two, as well as local farmer's markets, I'm amazed that Safeway, on El Camino
> > fact what the company wants to do is put in an even more immense "super" Safeway.
> > They do not grok that bigger won't garner them more customers with $$$...
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > (who won't patronize Safeway until they get rid of the beggars, if then)
>
> Oh come on, you guys down there near Stanfurd are so anticeptic. Have a
> little diversity.
The beggars take up valuable space. Where else can the chauffeurs idle
the Rolls-Royces, while they wait for their bloated plutocrat
masters to come out of Safeway, clutching bags of bargain Cheetos?
Class warfare in Palo Alto. You gotta love it.
notbob
Hopefully, BM will go belly up soon. You know they suck when Livermore
rejects them. Yep, went under in less than a year.
Hopefully, Una Mas won't be far behind. Haven't been back since I got
home with a bag of fish tacos and discovered my $2.00+ per was only
netting me 1/2 oz of fish per taco. Die, die, die, rip off scum!!
have a nice day :)
nb
Meg Worley
Charlotte cautions:
>If you promise to not wreck furniture...
Okay, that's it -- deal's off.
ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
nospam_...@yahoo.com
> Hopefully, BM will go belly up soon. You know they suck when Livermore
> rejects them. Yep, went under in less than a year.
Boston Market did file for bankruptcy, and McDonalds purchased
the remains. Last thing I read was that they were going to
keep some as BM's and covert others to Chipolte Mexican Grills.
Some locations will just be sold off.
> Hopefully, Una Mas won't be far behind. Haven't been back since I got
> home with a bag of fish tacos and discovered my $2.00+ per was only
> netting me 1/2 oz of fish per taco. Die, die, die, rip off scum!!
The opposite happened to me, my chunks of fish were
so big that the centers were still frozen.
Steve
Mary Kay Kare
<pet...@nospam.csus.edu> wrote:
> Aahz Maruch wrote:
> >
> > In article <8idv1j$bq4$1...@unix.sri.com>,
> > Mark Mellin <mel...@unix.sri.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So, uh, what's considered appropriate attire for panel discussions at
> > >Chez TJ?
> >
> > Derby hat, linen shirt, bolo tie, Lycra shorts, and Birkenstocks.
> > --
> > --- Aahz (Copyright 2000 by aa...@netcom.com)
> >
>
> I don't think the Megster even own a bolo tie. And Birkenstocks are for
> Berkeley.
>
Since she is not a gentleman, however, she may, if she chooses wear
sombrero and flippers.
MK--It's a RASFF thing
--
Member:
fwa
Evil Elitist Fannish Conspiracy
RASFF Fire, Usage, and Whinge Brigade
Worldwide TAFF Cabal (there is no cabal)
Aahz Maruch
Mary Kay Kare <ka...@sirius.com> wrote:
>
> [Meg Worley @ Chez TJ]
>Since she is not a gentleman, however, she may, if she chooses wear
>sombrero and flippers.
I think she's too swarthy for that.
>MK--It's a RASFF thing
So was this.
--
--- Aahz (Copyright 2000 by aa...@netcom.com)
Androgynous poly kinky vanilla queer het <*> http://www.rahul.net/aahz/
Bob R. Kenyon
wrote:
> notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> > Hopefully, Una Mas won't be far behind. Haven't been back since I got
> > home with a bag of fish tacos and discovered my $2.00+ per was only
> > netting me 1/2 oz of fish per taco. Die, die, die, rip off scum!!
>
> The opposite happened to me, my chunks of fish were
> so big that the centers were still frozen.
Don't forget the pound and a half of wet cabbage. You need a tub
underneath to catch all the water. Really keeps the fish crispy, too.
--
Bob R. Kenyon
Beautiful Downtown San Jose, CA
<http://www.bobrk.com/>
Bob R. Kenyon
Worley) wrote:
> Charlotte cautions:
> >If you promise to not wreck furniture...
>
> Okay, that's it -- deal's off.
>
>
> ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
Damn straight. I had several at MoMo's before the game last night, and
they was tasty. The Lagunitas I had inside didn't compare.
The place was way too crowded to eat, though. The food did smell good.
Meg Worley
Goatboy had written:
>> ->Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
>> ->safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
>> ->costs about half as much.
>> Ah, so YOU'RE the guy. Turned it orange, didn't it?
Porsupah writes:
> Doubles as a convenient tanning aid, too! I shan't hear a word said
>against them.
Yabbut which cult do you belong to -- gnarly cheetos or
bloaty cheetos?
Porsupah
> Andrew Shieh wrote:
>
> ->Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
> ->safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
> ->costs about half as much.
>
> Ah, so YOU'RE the guy. Turned it orange, didn't it?
Doubles as a convenient tanning aid, too! I shan't hear a word said
against them.
-- Porsupah
Will Borgeson
: Damn straight. I had several at MoMo's before the game last night, and
: they was tasty. The Lagunitas I had inside didn't compare.
With all due respect, Bob, Guinness stout and local microbrew ales are
such different beasts that they really can't be compared to each other.
I love Guinness from a good tap, or from a widget can; but - when the day
or evening's warmer - a Lagunitas IPA can be tasty indeed.
Will
Meg Worley
Bizbee writes:
>This is really strange, I hadn't eaten or even <seen> a Cheetoh for
>about ten years.... today I did a bar mitzvah, and, of all things,
>these people wanted <Cheetohs> for the kids (oh those wacky Jews...).
>It all came rushing back like an opened floodgate... the cheap ass
>cheesy smell, the "golden thumb"..... and now I come here and <read>
>about them... maybe my destiny is leading me toward Frito-Lay....
What kind of person hires a caterer to open a bag of cheezy-poofs?
And what kind of Jew serves cheezy-poofs, the goyischest snack
item available, at a bar mitzvah?
Charlotte L. Blackmer
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>Charlotte cautions:
>>If you promise to not wreck furniture...
>
>Okay, that's it -- deal's off.
Mea culpa. Forgot that I was supposed to go to drive *and* provide
bail.
The offer of margaritas still stands, though.
>ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
The canned stuff is surprisingly tasty.
ObFood: Ate Sunday brunch with the family and friends of the family at
the Radisson in Sacramento - it was pretty good for the "hotel
brunch" sorta deal. I'd go back, as would the Sacramentans in the party.
Ken Rowberry
stuff that takes forever to warm to the right temperature. (At least, it
seems like forever when I am thirsty.) Trial's Pub in downtown San Jose is
good. FIbbar Magee's in Sunnyvale used to be good but now chills it far too
much. Any other places to recommend?
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote in message
news:8if844$e...@steam.stanford.edu...
>
...
> ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
>
>
>
The Ranger
Ken Rowberry asked:
> And where is a good pint to be found?!
Britannia Arms (on De Anza Blvd.) and Duke of Edin[something--can't spell it
correctly], both in Cupertino. The Scottish pub in the Boulder Creek area
[brain-lock on the name].
The Ranger
mag...@rahul.net
<cuhul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Ken Rowberry asked:
>> And where is a good pint to be found?!
>
>Britannia Arms (on De Anza Blvd.) and Duke of Edin[something--can't spell it
>correctly], both in Cupertino.
Ditto.
>The Scottish pub in the Boulder Creek area
>[brain-lock on the name].
White Cockade, on Hwy 9 a few miles uphill from "downtown" BC.
jc
Meg Worley
I had obbed:
>>ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
Charlotte admits:
>The canned stuff is surprisingly tasty.
Much better than the bottled, in my experience. In fact, I
generally prefer canned over draft in this country, unless
the joint just tapped the keg.
Okay, how many of you geeks have dissected a can to play
with the widget?
How many do it every time?
notbob
Ken Rowberry wrote:
>
> And where is a good pint to be found?! Many times, I get this ice cold
> stuff that takes forever to warm to the right temperature. (At least, it
> seems like forever when I am thirsty.) Trial's Pub in downtown San Jose is
> good. FIbbar Magee's in Sunnyvale used to be good but now chills it far too
> much. Any other places to recommend?
You might try The Shamrock in SF.
Back in the 70's when I was just a young punk, a friend of mine, a SF
native, took me to a hard core Irish tavern named The Shamrock (what
else?), just across the street from Golden Gate Park's panhandle (South
side). It had one pool table and one beer ...Guinness. In the mid
afternoons, during the week, the place was pretty much deserted, so the
pool table was always open and that was the primary reason we went
there. The Guinness was the other.
Now, I had, up to that point, always disliked Guinness. I thought the
stuff tasted like carbonated crankcase oil and would never drink it,
except on really desperate occasions. But, I had only tried it from
bottles, chilled. This place had it on tap and at room temperature.
It was a real education to watch it being drawn from the tap. The
bartender would put a pint glass under the tap and fill it to the top
with brown foam. He would let it sit for a couple of minutes so the
foam would reduce to liquid and do it again. It took about 4 tries and
5-7 mins to completely fill a pint glass. I was not at all looking
forward to drinking this stuff, warm, no less. But, my buddy was buying
and this was one of those desperate occasions, so I drank.
To my amazement, it was very good. Not at all like the nasty stuff in
chilled long necks. I remember thinking those folks on the Isles are
not crazy. Warm beer can actually be good. And this stuff was potent.
Two pints and I was rockin! We always had a great time. Except for the
last time.
Like I said, it was a hard-core tavern. When I say Irish, I mean
IRISH. The bartender, who is the only person we ever saw, had a brogue
so thick I could hardly understand him. Then, one afternoon, a couple
of patrons came in and sat at the one of half a dozen tables. A bit
later, a few more entered. In about 15 mins, the place was full and
abuzz with fervent conversation, some of it in a language I didn't
recognize. It was quite a change from the usual sleepy atmosphere.
Obviously, something was afoot.
While still playing pool, both me and my buddy noticed, at about the
same time, a drastic drop in the din. We turned to see the cause and
were confronted by the bartender. His demeanor had changed from the
usual indifference to deadly seriousness. Without being rude or
menacing, he said, "I'm sorry boys, but you must leave ...now". I
looked over his shoulder to see all the now silent patrons staring
straight at us. Without a word, we laid down our cues, picked up our
jackets, and silently walked out the door while every eye in the place
followed us out. As I stepped out on the sidewalk, a small chill went
down my spine. True Story.
I'll let you speculate on what went on that day. I have my own ideas.
But, I do love the Guinness now. And I would like to find somewhere
that knows how to serve it. These boutique "pubs" with their "dribble"
taps of chilled Guinness just don't get it. As for The Shamrock, I
don't know if it's still there. Maybe, one of these days, I'll go up to
the City and take a look.
nb
Geoff Miller
"The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> writes:
> Britannia Arms (on De Anza Blvd.) and Duke of Edin[something--can't
> spell it correctly], both in Cupertino.
The Duke of Edinburgh. What's to spell? It's the *pronunciation*
that throws most people. They have a good selection of beers, and
a serviceable, if somewhat limited, menu. The attitudes of their
waitresses are often rather indifferent, though.
> The Scottish pub in the Boulder Creek area [brain-lock on the name].
That would be my local, the White Cockade. The cook, John, speaks
with a nearly impenetrable Scottish brogue. I find him a lot easier
to understand after I've consumed a few pints.
Now that premium beer is trendy and has been so for a while, Guinness
on tap^H^H^Hdraught can be found in a lot of places. I find that just
about anyplace classier than a neighborhood dive bar will have it.
Geoff
--
"It appears that the real problem here has nothing to do with
Canadians, or Eskimos, or Natives of any kind. It seems that
you are just a two bit racist, thats all." -- Floyd Davidson
Eddie Grove
> Ken Rowberry asked:
> > And where is a good pint to be found?!
>
> Britannia Arms (on De Anza Blvd.) and Duke of Edin[something--can't spell it
> correctly], both in Cupertino. The Scottish pub in the Boulder Creek area
> [brain-lock on the name].
>
> The Ranger
Not to mention the Duke had Murphy's stout on tap last time I was
there. Call me a heretic; I preferred it to Guinness.
The main problem is that it is adjacent to the asian mall
at Homestead & Wolfe, and parking can be tight.
Eddie
Porsupah
> "The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> writes:
> Not to mention the Duke had Murphy's stout on tap last time I was
> there. Call me a heretic; I preferred it to Guinness.
On the other paw, those of the East Bay (or those willing to make such
a /lengthy voyage/), might wish to avail themselves of The Englander in
San Leandro. Not quite where one might expect such a swelling of beers,
but while they /offer/ Guinness, those seeking a deeper brew might enjoy
the locally produced "Death & Taxes", or even North Coast's "Rasputin's
Imperial Stout". Around 50 beers of every stripe, all on tap, available
in the usual denominations.
Only drawback is that it also wants to be a Sports Bar(tm), and thus
has several TVs around, showing unrelated events. Of course, this may be
a positive attribute for some. ^_^
-- Porsupah
PS: "Edinburgh"
notbob
Ken Rowberry wrote:
>
> And where is a good pint to be found?! Many times, I get this ice cold
> stuff that takes forever to warm to the right temperature. (At least, it
> seems like forever when I am thirsty.) Trial's Pub in downtown San Jose is
> good. FIbbar Magee's in Sunnyvale used to be good but now chills it far too
> much. Any other places to recommend?
.....oops, forgot to mention. The stuff in the trick gas-release cans
is only about 4.5% alcohol content. The bottled Guinness is 8%.
Bubbles or booze, you choose!
nb
Joe Petolino
>I had obbed:
>>>ObFood: Guinness and plenty of it. It does a body good.
>Charlotte admits:
>>The canned stuff is surprisingly tasty.
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Much better than the bottled, in my experience. In fact, I
>generally prefer canned over draft in this country, unless
>the joint just tapped the keg.
They are, in fact, two different beers. The bottled "Extra Stout" is
much stronger and heavier-bodied. Canned Guinness is basically the same
formula as draft Guinness, including the nitrogen charge.
-Joe
Ken Rowberry
extra-stout. Two very different animals.
notbob <not...@NOThome.com> wrote in message
news:394E7D60...@NOThome.com...
Joe Petolino
>is only about 4.5% alcohol content. The bottled Guinness is 8%.
>Bubbles or booze, you choose!
The real numbers are not as impressive, and can be found at
http://www.ivo.se/guinness/specs.html
Canned: 3.3% by weight / 4.1% by volume;
Bottled Extra Stout: 4.8% by weight / 6.0% by volume.
-Joe
notbob
........a little lower:
"Guinness Extra Stout (Ireland in 1901, according to Eckhardt)
OG: 1075 (18.2 Plato)
Alcohol: 6.3% abw, 7.9% abv"
......no doubt the Guinness rep who quoted me those figures was fudging
the numbers to impress me .....and it worked. Thanks for the
correction.
nb
Doomster
|>
|> ->Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
|> ->safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
|> ->costs about half as much.
|>
|> Ah, so YOU'RE the guy. Turned it orange, didn't it?
|
| Doubles as a convenient tanning aid, too! I shan't hear a word said
|against them.
Reminds me of another joke.......
Folks it's vulgar so if things like this offend you, move on.......
A guy goes to the doctor and confides to him about a certain
problem.
Patient: "Doc I have a problem."
Doctor: "What's your problem?"
Patient: "Doc, I have an orange penis."
Doctor: "What?!?"
Patient: "No, really, I do! Here, let me show you."
(patient drops his pants)
Doctor (befuddled): "This is strange. Were you born with this
condition?"
Patient: "No."
Doctor: "Well, does anyone else in your family have this
condition?"
Patient: "No, not that I know of."
Doctor: "I can't figure out why your penis turned orange. Do
you work with with chemicals?"
Patient: "No."
Doctor: "So what do you do for a living?"
Patient: "Nothing. I've been unemployed for the last month
or so and I've just been staying at home eating Cheetos and
watching porno movies."
Doomster
JD
wrote:
>>Okay, how many of you geeks have dissected a can to play
>>with the widget?
>
>To answer the question in the subject line, guiness is nitrogenated as
>opposed to carbonated, that's what gives it's head that creamy
>texture--smaller bubbles. If a bar is going to sell draft Guinness,
>they have to agree to a nitrogenation system for the beer, which is an
>additional expense, since the regulator is a different size than the
>one used for carbonation.
>Bottles are carbonated.
Not long ago there was a thread in rec.food.drink.beer about the
recent "trendiness" of nitro beers in bars. Apparently just about any
bar beer is fair game for nitro these days including Sierra Nevada's
Bigfoot seasonal *boggle*.
I don't mind the nitro widget in Guinness and Boddington cans but
nitro does tend to "mellow" the flavor of most beers too much and
what's wrong with carbonation anyway?
If it's just a fad, fine, but if these bars are investing in special
equipment, I expect we will be stuck with this nitro fad for much too
long.
Obnon-alcoholic.ba.food: If you are in Santa Cruz and Rosa's
Rosticeria at the harbor is serving Cuban pork, run, don't walk to get
your portion before it's gone. Fork-tender spiced pork with black
beans, mango, green pepper, plantain, and more. Rosa's isn't fancy and
the ordering process is confusing but it's worth it.
jd
mag...@rahul.net
<eddie...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Duke of Edin[something--can't spell it
>> correctly], both in Cupertino.
--
jc (posted and emailed due to flakey news server, email or cc'd email replies appreciated for the same reason)
Bob R. Kenyon
<szbo...@logan.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
Oh, I know. The Guiness was just too good that brisk S.F. evening. I
love IPA's as well, and will enjoy them again on my next visit.
Michael Nelson
->|> Andrew Shieh wrote:
->|>
->|> ->Safeway is just fine for pre-packaged food, though. A bag of cheetos at
->|> ->safeway is the same bag of cheetos you get at Andronico's, except it
->|> ->costs about half as much.
->|>
->|> Ah, so YOU'RE the guy. Turned it orange, didn't it?
->|
->| Doubles as a convenient tanning aid, too! I shan't hear a word said
->|against them.
->
->
->Reminds me of another joke.......
That's not another joke, it's the same one I was referring to... I just
didn't post the joke.
Michael
--
Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA
Nancy Block
>And where is a good pint to be found?! Many times, I get this ice cold
>stuff that takes forever to warm to the right temperature. (At least, it
>seems like forever when I am thirsty.) Trial's Pub in downtown San Jose is
>good. FIbbar Magee's in Sunnyvale used to be good but now chills it far too
>much. Any other places to recommend?
>
Bollinger? If so, they *USED* to serve proper British-style food and beer/ale/
stout (back when I was at Four-Phase, a lifetime ago). The Britannia Arms.
Nancy
jzsw...@my-deja.com
m...@steam.stanford.edu (Meg Worley) wrote:
>
> Okay, how many of you geeks have dissected a can to play
> with the widget?
>
Heck, this is Silcon Valley.
I've got friends that have modeled
the silly thing on a super computer.
"All in the name of Science"
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Before you buy.