No to Pasand restaurant
ghi...@my-deja.com
and 3 other places in Bay Area (I am not sure where they are).
The owner of these restaurants has been just arrested for bringing
underaged girls from India under false pretense and sexually molesting
them. Most of the employees at these restaurants are victims. They work
long hours with meager benefits and salary.
Some young girls brought here have been bought from their poor families
in India and are quite helpless.
Hope the Justice department puts this guy away for life.
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Before you buy.
Matthew B
convicted before starting any punitive actions. Remember we are
innocent until proved guilty by a court of law. The crime he is
accused of is indeed heinous. But it is just that, an accusation.
If you were accused of an outrageous crime the you were innocent of,
would you understand and agree with the punitive actions against you?
Just a thought.
Matt Rich
In article <86q0l3$i38$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Gareth
Matthew B wrote:
> I understand you concern, but maybe we should wait until he is
> convicted before starting any punitive actions. Remember we are
> innocent until proved guilty by a court of law. The crime he is
> accused of is indeed heinous. But it is just that, an accusation.
>
Not withstanding any outstanding indictments against the owner, I stopped
eating at Pasand after two visits because it is quite possibly the worst
Indian food I've ever been served.
Bland, greasy and lukewarm are just three of the better points of it.
Moochcat1
>Hope the Justice department puts this guy away for life.
I guess I missed a major news announcement. When was the concept of "innocent
until proven guilty" repealed?
Dave
Will Borgeson
: I guess I missed a major news announcement. When was the concept of "innocent
: until proven guilty" repealed?
Moot point for me, since the food's so lackluster (at least at the one
Pasand's I visited a few years ago, in San Rafael or somewhere in Marin,
if memory serves).
Will
Yip Yap
Will Borgeson <szbo...@runner.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>
> Moot point for me, since the food's so lackluster (at least at the one
> Pasand's I visited a few years ago, in San Rafael or somewhere in
Marin,
> if memory serves).
I went to the Santa Clara Pasand last week and thought it was
OK. There are other better Indian restaurants nearby: Amber,
Sarovar, Banjara, and the Bombay Oven.
I first tried Banjara a few weeks ago and was favorably impressed.
It's located in the Town and Country shopping center in downtown
Sunnyvale.
-- Yip
Valerie
Matthew B <mbr...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>I understand you concern, but maybe we should wait until he is
>convicted before starting any punitive actions. Remember we are
>innocent until proved guilty by a court of law. The crime he is
>accused of is indeed heinous. But it is just that, an accusation.
Mmmmm... however, one of my co-workers used to rent from him (he's a
slumlord in Berkeley, apparently.). Someone kicked in her door and broke
the lock. She asked him to replace it and told her it was a free
country, so she could move if she didn't like the place. She has always
referred to him as the landlord from hell. Given the very young women
who were housed in her building and his sleazy attitude towards women,
she found the charges quite believable.
More to the point in this ng, however, is I didn't like the food there.
Val
mag...@rahul.net
>Please do not patronise Pasand Restaurant located in Berkley, Sunnyvale
>and 3 other places in Bay Area (I am not sure where they are).
The food at Pasand sucks, so no one here cares anyway...
>The owner of these restaurants has been just arrested
Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
jc
Patrick Tufts
<mag...@rahul.net> wrote:
> The food at Pasand sucks
I like Pasand.
The location in Berkeley (on Shattuck, a few blocks south of
University) is fine.
--Pat
Jeffrey Lichtman
>
> In article <olh29ssup067fg1jj...@4ax.com>,
> I like Pasand.
>
> The location in Berkeley (on Shattuck, a few blocks south of
> University) is fine.
Really. I haven't eaten there in years, but the last time I went,
it was a real grease pit. The place was dirty and the food was bad.
--
- Jeff Lichtman
swa...@dnai.com
Check out Swazoo Koolak's Web Jukebox at
http://www.dnai.com/~swazoo/
Will Borgeson
: In article <86q5f0$d0r$2...@mark.ucdavis.edu>,
In my lexicon, lackluster and OK are in the same general realm - I like to
avoid eating out at that quality level. You folks down there are
fortunate to have so many options! There are just a few Indian and
Indian-like eateries in Sonoma Co. - Sizzling Tandoor near Jenner is the
best, imo, and the views can't be beat. The Santa Rosa store of the same
name is pretty good too. Tandoor Express near the JC is cheap, generous,
and decent, in a Formica setting. There's a new Nepalese place in the
Brickyard that's also pretty good - some Indian and some Nepalese or
Himalayan dishes - a blackeyed pea dish on the lunch buffet had a quite
unusual and good flavor. Nice choice of condiments; their nan nan bread
isn't in the league of the Jenner Sizzling Tandoor's, though! Now that's
some tasty nan.
Will
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
> the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
> pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
The bigger harem picture is said to involve the son, however, the father is in deep
doodoo, too.
Karen
Margarita Lacabe
> Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
> the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
> pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
He was released from jail on a $1 millon bail - and the investigation has
turned to /also/ look at his son.
--
Margarita Lacabe - Derechos - ma...@derechos.org - http://www.derechos.org
____________________________________________________________________________
veritas justitia memoria
Peter L
Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>
> mag...@rahul.net wrote:
>
> > Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
> > the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
> > pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
>
Peter L
Margarita Lacabe wrote:
>
> mag...@rahul.net wrote:
> > Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
> > the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
> > pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
>
ghi...@my-deja.com
Can anyone confirm this good news?
Thanks
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> The bail is 10 mil, not 1 mil.
Probably the same thing to that family...
Karen
Meg Worley
Marga had written of the Pasand Panderer:
>> He was released from jail on a $1 millon bail - and the investigation has
>> turned to /also/ look at his son.
>The bail is 10 mil, not 1 mil.
Geez, have none of you guys been to jail before? You *pay*
a million in order to post 10 million bail. If you come back
for trial, you get the money back; if you split (which is
why his bail was so high), the state keeps the dough.
ObFood: They don't serve vindaloo in the pokey. Well,
not here, anyway.
Rage away,
meg
--
m...@steam.stanford.edu Comparatively Literate
Yip Yap
ghi...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I just heard that Pasand in Sunnyvale has closed down. Hooray!
> Can anyone confirm this good news?
> Thanks
>
It's actually in Santa Clara. It was still open as
of Sunday.
-- Yip
A. Sears
>
> Geez, have none of you guys been to jail before? You *pay*
> a million in order to post 10 million bail. If you come back
> for trial, you get the money back; if you split (which is
> why his bail was so high), the state keeps the dough.
Not exactly.
I've never been to jail, but the way I'm pretty sure it works is, you
pay 10% to the bail bondsman, who then posts the full amount of the bail
for you. If you come back for trial, the *bondsman* gets all the money
back, but he keeps your 10% fee. If you split, the bondsman then gets
to keep whatever collateral you put up for the bond, and will likely
hire a bounty hunter to track you down and bring you in so he gets his
money back anyway.
If you have the money to put up the entire amount of the bail without
going through a bondsman, however, then you do get all of the bail back
when you return for trial.
> ObFood: They don't serve vindaloo in the pokey. Well,
> not here, anyway.
With those jailhouse toilets, it's probably a good thing. If I were
locked up for a couple of days, I'd hope for a diet of Powerbars and
cheese.
Peter L
educational experience. But enough of watching Law and Order tells me
you are right. Watch TV, save all that money that goes for obscene
administrator salaries. But I digress.
They also freeze his real estate holdings. I hope they are smart enough
to take away his passport too.
Meg Worley wrote:
>
> Marga had written of the Pasand Panderer:
> >> He was released from jail on a $1 millon bail - and the investigation has
> >> turned to /also/ look at his son.
>
> PeterL writes:
> >The bail is 10 mil, not 1 mil.
>
> Geez, have none of you guys been to jail before? You *pay*
> a million in order to post 10 million bail. If you come back
> for trial, you get the money back; if you split (which is
> why his bail was so high), the state keeps the dough.
>
> ObFood: They don't serve vindaloo in the pokey. Well,
> not here, anyway.
>
Meg Worley
I had written:
>> Geez, have none of you guys been to jail before? You *pay*
>> a million in order to post 10 million bail. If you come back
>> for trial, you get the money back; if you split (which is
>> why his bail was so high), the state keeps the dough.
A. writes:
>I've never been to jail, but the way I'm pretty sure it works is, you
>pay 10% to the bail bondsman, who then posts the full amount of the bail
>for you. If you come back for trial, the *bondsman* gets all the money
>back, but he keeps your 10% fee. If you split, the bondsman then gets
>to keep whatever collateral you put up for the bond, and will likely
>hire a bounty hunter to track you down and bring you in so he gets his
>money back anyway.
>
>If you have the money to put up the entire amount of the bail without
>going through a bondsman, however, then you do get all of the bail back
>when you return for trial.
I *have* been in jail (don't check the newsgroups line -- yes,
this is ba.food and not ba.kooks^H^Hmountain-folk). Yes, if
you go through a bail bondsman, you don't get your 10% back,
but it's often not that difficult to get someone to lend you
the cash. Hell, a friend or fam can go to the bank and get
the couple thousand bucks that it takes to post bail. Much
better than going through those sleazy bail bondsmen (sorry,
Steve!) -- you only pay the interest on the loan, if anything.
>> ObFood: They don't serve vindaloo in the pokey. Well,
>> not here, anyway.
>With those jailhouse toilets, it's probably a good thing. If I were
>locked up for a couple of days, I'd hope for a diet of Powerbars and
>cheese.
That's why you post bail, dude.
ObFood: we finally got around to trying Hama on Cal Ave in PA
(the brown-rice sushi place). Good stuff, although the
umeshisomaki didn't have any shiso in it.
Peter L
official in Mongolia?
More details please.
Karen Anderson O'Mara
> They also freeze his real estate holdings. I hope they are smart enough
> to take away his passport too.
I read many family passports have been held.
Karen
Gareth
Meg Worley wrote:
>
>
> ObFood: They don't serve vindaloo in the pokey. Well,
> not here, anyway.
>
> Rage away,
>
> meg
>
>
I wouldn't worry. If he winds up in jail on underage procurement charges, he'll
be the recipient of something else that will make his ass sting far worse than a
vindaloo.
Deborah Gronke Bennett
> Marga had written of the Pasand Panderer:
> >> He was released from jail on a $1 millon bail - and the investigation has
> >> turned to /also/ look at his son.
>
> PeterL writes:
> >The bail is 10 mil, not 1 mil.
>
> Geez, have none of you guys been to jail before? You *pay*
> a million in order to post 10 million bail. If you come back
> for trial, you get the money back; if you split (which is
> why his bail was so high), the state keeps the dough.
Not quite. Either you pay the court the entire bail (10 mil in
this case), and when you show up for trial, you get it all back.
Or, you pay a bail bondsman a percentage (usually 10%, thus
1 million here) to pay the court the entire bail (10 mil) on
your behalf. When you show up for trial, the bail bondsman
gets his entire 10 mil back, but I believe that he either
keeps your entire 10% as his fee (for assuming the risk),
or some part of it.
Meg Worley
Deborah writes:
>Not quite. Either you pay the court the entire bail (10 mil in
>this case), and when you show up for trial, you get it all back.
>Or, you pay a bail bondsman a percentage (usually 10%, thus
>1 million here) to pay the court the entire bail (10 mil) on
>your behalf. When you show up for trial, the bail bondsman
>gets his entire 10 mil back, but I believe that he either
>keeps your entire 10% as his fee (for assuming the risk),
>or some part of it.
IANAL, but that wasn't the way it worked when I had to post
bail. I coughed up $1500 ($15k bail) and got it back later.
YMMV, but that was my experience.
ObFood: It's been a week of trying new places. In addition
to Hama, we also tried the gyro place on ?Cowper? and Univ.
in PA, where the taco place & then the juice joint (or was
it the other way around?) was. The new place is okay but
not great. I prefer Med Wraps, even if they don't have gyros.
dke...@best.com
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>ObFood: It's been a week of trying new places. In addition
>to Hama, we also tried the gyro place on ?Cowper? and Univ.
>in PA, where the taco place & then the juice joint (or was
>it the other way around?) was. The new place is okay but
>not great. I prefer Med Wraps, even if they don't have gyros.
I like Med Wraps, except they shouldn't sell wraps. All
that stuff is better on pita than tortilla.
--
Dave Eisen Sequoia Peripherals: (408) 752-1400
dke...@netcom.com FAX: (408) 752-2707
In our society, you can state your views, but they have to be correct.
--- Ernie Hai, coordinator Singapore Gov't Internet Project.
dke...@best.com
>In article <86sn4k$hnm$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> ghi...@my-deja.com wrote:
>> I just heard that Pasand in Sunnyvale has closed down. Hooray!
>> Can anyone confirm this good news?
>> Thanks
>>
>
>It's actually in Santa Clara. It was still open as of Sunday.
I just drove by and it was very much open.
David Hatunen
>IANAL, but that wasn't the way it worked when I had to post
>bail. I coughed up $1500 ($15k bail) and got it back later.
>YMMV, but that was my experience.
Odd. There's no way a bondsman can pay the rent that way.
--
********** DAVE HATUNEN (hat...@sonic.net) ***********
* Daly City California *
******* My typos are intentional copyright traps ******
Meg Worley
I wrote:
>>IANAL, but that wasn't the way it worked when I had to post
>>bail. I coughed up $1500 ($15k bail) and got it back later.
>>YMMV, but that was my experience.
Dave writes:
>Odd. There's no way a bondsman can pay the rent that way.
No, no. I skipped the bail bondsmonsters. Borrowed the money
from the person who was going to use the drugs I was nabbed
with.
David Hatunen
Meg Worley <m...@steam.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>I wrote:
>>>IANAL, but that wasn't the way it worked when I had to post
>>>bail. I coughed up $1500 ($15k bail) and got it back later.
>>>YMMV, but that was my experience.
>
>Dave writes:
>>Odd. There's no way a bondsman can pay the rent that way.
>
>No, no. I skipped the bail bondsmonsters. Borrowed the money
>from the person who was going to use the drugs I was nabbed with.
Oooooh. You mean the *court* accepted the cents on the dollar? What
the hell good is that (from a bail standpoint)?
Icono Clast
One of our bail bondsmen is the son of our local Big Time Hood
(surely deceased by now). We knew each other as children. I have a
photograph of his father, my father, and Herb Caen. No, I don't know
the occasion.
--
ICONO CLAST: A San Franciscan in 47.335 mile² San Francisco.
David Hatunen
>A bit of local color:
>
>One of our bail bondsmen is the son of our local Big Time Hood
>(surely deceased by now). We knew each other as children. I have a
>photograph of his father, my father, and Herb Caen. No, I don't
>know the occasion.
Tell us more about why you need a bail bondsman....
Jeremy Bond Shepherd
wrote:
>
> IANAL, but that wasn't the way it worked when I had to post bail. I coughed
up $1500 ($15k bail) and got it back later. YMMV, but that was my experience.
>
>
OK Meg, inquiring minds like mine want to know...
- Jeremy
ll-e
Jeffrey Lichtman wrote:
> I haven't eaten there in years, but the last time I went,
> it was a real grease pit. The place was dirty and the food was bad.
I disagree with Jeff.
I think he's being too kind. :^)
Steve Fenwick
Cho's dim sum. Yum!
Steve
In article <86sp2i$l...@steam.stanford.edu>, m...@steam.stanford.edu (Meg
Worley) wrote:
>ObFood: we finally got around to trying Hama on Cal Ave in PA
>(the brown-rice sushi place). Good stuff, although the
>umeshisomaki didn't have any shiso in it.
>
>
>Rage away,
>
>meg
--
Steve Fenwick sfen...@apple.com
Margarita Lacabe
> Repugnant as what he's accused of doing is, in the US, theoretically
> speaking, we generally have a trial before destroying someone's
> livelihood.
Well, actually, that's not true - what we generally do in the US is
charge people with crimes for which there are long (sometimes mandatory)
sentences, and then have them plea bargain to something much minor.
But you are right that it's important not to jump the gun and assume that
an arrest/indictment is equivalent to a conviction - the sad truth is that
the police arrest/charge innocent people every day. However, it seems to me
that there is nothing wrong with making some enquiries of your own. If you
are concerned about the situation of the waitresses at Passand, you may
want to ask them about it and/or perhaps hand them some information about
what their rights are in America.
Personally, I agree with everyone else - the food at Pasand is awful. With
so many good (or at least tolerable) Indian restaurants in the Bay Area,
there is no reason to go there. (Now, I guess we could ask ourselves if
the Pasand management cares so little about their customers to serve such
terrible food, how much more likely are there to care about their
"employees"?
Patrick Tufts
<swa...@dnai.com> wrote:
> Patrick Tufts wrote:
> > I like Pasand.
> >
> > The location in Berkeley (on Shattuck, a few blocks south of
> > University) is fine.
>
> Really. I haven't eaten there in years, but the last time I went,
> it was a real grease pit. The place was dirty and the food was bad.
I've only been eating there since six months ago: decent food, clean
place, good service.
--Pat
g_ba...@ether.com
<no-...@lacabe.com> wrote:
> But you are right that it's important not to jump the gun and assume that
> an arrest/indictment is equivalent to a conviction - the sad truth is that
> the police arrest/charge innocent people every day. However, it seems to me
> that there is nothing wrong with making some enquiries of your own. If you
> are concerned about the situation of the waitresses at Passand, you may
> want to ask them about it and/or perhaps hand them some information about
> what their rights are in America.
If anyone is going to do that, they should, in principle, do a background
check on the owners of every restauant and commercial establishment they
are thinking of doing business with.
Matt Ackeret
Peter L <pet...@nospam.csus.edu> wrote:
>He's released after posting 10 million bail (for 10 mil, I'd stay in.).
You must not understand the concept of bail -- you get the money back.
>
>Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>>
>> mag...@rahul.net wrote:
>>
>> > Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several
>days ago, and
>> > the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
>> > pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
>>
>> The bigger harem picture is said to involve the son, however, the
>father is in deep
>> doodoo, too.
>>
>> Karen
Karen
Bail bondsmen pay the court the whole bail. If you skip, they get a
fugitive retrieval officer (bounty hunter) after you. That ten percent is
GONE!
--
Karen
The Other Karen
fra...@ix.netcom.com|
Margarita Lacabe
> If anyone is going to do that, they should, in principle, do a background
> check on the owners of every restauant and commercial establishment they
> are thinking of doing business with.
No, just of those that you suspect may be abusing their employees - in this
case there is at least /probable cause/ to believe this man is bringing
women to the US for the purpose of prostitution - as far as I know there is
no such level of suspicion with most businesses.
orl...@noxtoxpasa.killspam.us.com
is not through with him yet, and his son has been
implicated as a conspirator.
as far as innocent until proven guilty, it has to compete
with 'where there's smoke there's fire.'
back to the content, i thought pasand in santa clara was
ok, but i won't be eating there anymore.
orlando
In article <olh29ssup067fg1jj...@4ax.com>,
<mag...@rahul.net> wrote:
>Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several days ago, and
>the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
>pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
>
>
>
>jc
>
mag...@rahul.net
>How do you think they make their money?
>Bail bondsmen pay the court the whole bail. If you skip, they get a
>fugitive retrieval officer (bounty hunter) after you. That ten percent is
>GONE!
Right. You don't understand the concept of bail.
The bail was $10,000,000.
If the individual has cash or real estate that amounts to that much, they post
their bail DIRECTLY with the court. Then when they appear at trial, the bail is
returned to the person who posted the bail, in this case the individual.
If the individual does NOT have enough cash or real estate to meet the full
bail, they enlist the services of a bail bondsman. They pay the bondsman 10% of
the bail (in this case $1,000,000) and the bail bondsman posts the full bail.
When they appear at trial, the full bail is returned to the bail bondsman who
posted the bail. In this case, the $1,000,000 fee to the bail bondsman is for
services rendered (the posting of the full bail) and the fee is non refundable.
HTH
jc
Peter L
in my education! Years of watching Law and Order cannot compensate for
book knowledge.
Matt Ackeret wrote:
>
> In article <3891CC...@nospam.csus.edu>,
> Peter L <pet...@nospam.csus.edu> wrote:
> >He's released after posting 10 million bail (for 10 mil, I'd stay in.).
>
> You must not understand the concept of bail -- you get the money back.
>
> >
> >Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
> >>
> >> mag...@rahul.net wrote:
> >>
> >> > Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several
> >days ago, and
> >> > the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
> >> > pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
> >>
Tony
Administered by a bunch of bikers - eh Gareth? ;)
Tony - GeezerGliding from sushi bar to sushi bar
Gareth
Tony wrote:
Not me I hope. I've eaten in his damn restaurant - once. It was pretty awful, even
for an ex pat Brit who is usually prepared to try *any* Indian food for a fix.
As for his social life in a a federal lockup. I'd say it would be a toss up who gets
to him first. He'll probably wind up in protective custody fairly quickly I'd say.
Just don't put the fucker in the kitchens.
Matt Ackeret
Peter L <pet...@nospam.csus.edu> wrote:
>English, Math, History, psychology. Damn, I know I am missing something
>in my education! Years of watching Law and Order cannot compensate for
>book knowledge.
Well, I certainly learned about bail via law shows!
>
>Matt Ackeret wrote:
>>
>> In article <3891CC...@nospam.csus.edu>,
>> Peter L <pet...@nospam.csus.edu> wrote:
>> >He's released after posting 10 million bail (for 10 mil, I'd stay in.).
>>
>> You must not understand the concept of bail -- you get the money back.
>>
>> >
>> >Karen Anderson O'Mara wrote:
>> >>
>> >> mag...@rahul.net wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Doesn't anyone follow the news? He was released from jail several
>> >days ago, and
>> >> > the investigation has turned to looking at his son. Don't be so quick to
>> >> > pronounce him guilty of these allegations.
>> >>
>> >> The bigger harem picture is said to involve the son, however, the
>> >father is in deep
>> >> doodoo, too.
>> >>
>> >> Karen
>>
>> --
>> mat...@area.com
Tom Galloway
<orl...@NoXtoXPasa.killspam.us.com> wrote:
>as far as innocent until proven guilty, it has to compete
>with 'where there's smoke there's fire.'
A while back, there was an article in the Wall St. Journal about how a
pizza parlor which had hired (beforehand) one of the kids who'd done
one of last year's school shootings had had its business drop off
radically. People seemed to completely ignore that no one still at
the pizza place had anything to do with the shooting and no one else
had done anything about the kid before the shootings either. Apparently
they thought the owner should've been psychic enough to have known not
to hire the kid.
tyg t...@netcom.com
Steve Wertz
> If the individual has cash or real estate that amounts to that much, they post
> their bail DIRECTLY with the court. Then when they appear at trial, the bail is
> returned to the person who posted the bail, in this case the individual.
> If the individual does NOT have enough cash or real estate to meet the full
> bail, they enlist the services of a bail bondsman. They pay the bondsman 10% of
> the bail (in this case $1,000,000) and the bail bondsman posts the full bail.
> When they appear at trial, the full bail is returned to the bail bondsman who
> posted the bail. In this case, the $1,000,000 fee to the bail bondsman is for
> services rendered (the posting of the full bail) and the fee is non refundable.
Minor point, I'm nitpicking.
The porperty must first be assessed by a County Assesor, and it must
be assessed at 10% above the full bail amount. The assessment is good
for 3-6 months. All good criminals have their property assessed every
6 months, since a full assement can take up to a week.
Small time hoods like Meg (and myself) should get the County OR
Department to vouch for them. First time, non-violent, petty feloners
can 'vouch' for you, if you have lived and worked consistently
in the county for 2 years, under most circumstances. "OR" is
"Own Recognisince"(sp?). It's not just a phrase on a traffic ticket,
it's a whole department.
The bail bondsman will usually also require 50-150% of the remainding
90%. Cars, boats, any pink slips, etc...
-sw
Steve Wertz
>> If anyone is going to do that, they should, in principle, do a background
>> check on the owners of every restauant and commercial establishment they
>> are thinking of doing business with.
> No, just of those that you suspect may be abusing their employees - in this
> case there is at least /probable cause/ to believe this man is bringing
> women to the US for the purpose of prostitution - as far as I know there is
> no such level of suspicion with most businesses.
All this made me hungry for Indian Food. I went to Royal Taj, where
all the employees have always been middle-age men. I hate
to think how they might be abusing _them_.
Uh-Oh. I better watch out. That Indian Cultural Advisor/City Attorney
with the Guatemalan name might came after this establishment, too!
I forget the name of the organization, what is it, "Bangladesh National
Women's Lawyers Association?". They arrange "Marches" throughout the
world, telling everyone about the exploitation of Women and Children
in unfair labor practices in India and Guatemala. You know, like
sellling your children to become short-lived camel jockey's and such.
"We treat out children better", I think she said.
-sw
Steve Wertz
> Department to vouch for them. First time, non-violent, petty feloners
> can 'vouch' for you, if you have lived and worked consistently
Ooops. I meant the 'OR Department' can 'vouch' for you. It
was an interesting concept though ;-)
-sw
ghi...@my-deja.com
The point here is that the owner is the culprit and thus this issue does
not fall under the same category as the above
>
> tyg t...@netcom.com
>
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Before you buy.
Peter L
>
> In article <874ben$iqi$1...@samba.rahul.net>,
> <orl...@NoXtoXPasa.killspam.us.com> wrote:
> >as far as innocent until proven guilty, it has to compete
> >with 'where there's smoke there's fire.'
>
> A while back, there was an article in the Wall St. Journal about how a
> pizza parlor which had hired (beforehand) one of the kids who'd done
> one of last year's school shootings had had its business drop off
> radically. People seemed to completely ignore that no one still at
> the pizza place had anything to do with the shooting and no one else
> had done anything about the kid before the shootings either. Apparently
> they thought the owner should've been psychic enough to have known not
> to hire the kid.
>
Or, maybe, the simple association with the shooting was enough to turn
people off. This does not have to be a blame situation. Can't force
people to frequent a business.
Steve Wertz
> Tom Galloway wrote:
>>
>> In article <874ben$iqi$1...@samba.rahul.net>,
>> <orl...@NoXtoXPasa.killspam.us.com> wrote:
>> >as far as innocent until proven guilty, it has to compete
>> >with 'where there's smoke there's fire.'
>>
>> A while back, there was an article in the Wall St. Journal about how a
>> pizza parlor which had hired (beforehand) one of the kids who'd done
>> one of last year's school shootings had had its business drop off
>> radically.
> Or, maybe, the simple association with the shooting was enough to turn
> people off. This does not have to be a blame situation. Can't force
> people to frequent a business.
OBba.food.murder, was it it Arby's or McDonald's where a
guy capped his wife outside on the patio? Being a Burker King dude
down the street, we wondered what he'd request for his last meal.
Medium or Well-Done, Flame-Broiled or Fried, or Steve's Speedy Special,
Deep-Fried Whoppers dunked in the fryer traditionally for Chicken and Fish.
(it also did bacon pretty darn good, too, and I'm sure the chiekna
dn fish didn't mind either.. BK's main motto at the time was "Have It
Youuur Way" (and you're gonna get it, buddy!)
The Arby's is still there (or was?) for quite a while, and if it
was McD's its policy to high-tail it out of there, for the public
image of those 1% that would actually blame them for even having
a policy like that in the first place, with a playgrounds outside
even!
A few years later, depsite the fact that Richard Farley would
have been the 7th and final person to die that evening, Togo's
gave him a Turkey and Avacado sandwhich anyway. It became an
instant runner up to the #9 in local Togo's, even though it saved
a mass-murder's life. Certainly, nobody boycotted Togo's,
and many people you knew were three-degrees or less apart from that
incident. I was a little miffed that he was able to remain a customer
of a certain bookstore often associated with Togo's,
but I still eat there.
-sw
Pete Fraser
"Patrick Tufts" <zi...@cs.brandeis.edu> wrote in message
news:280120000005155731%zi...@cs.brandeis.edu...> > The food at Pasand sucks
>
> I like Pasand.
>
> The location in Berkeley (on Shattuck, a few blocks south of
> University) is fine.
>
for five or so years. The food was the worst Indian food I have
ever tasted.