Bye Bye Mr Ken's Apple Pancake
-jm
serves a "Ken's style" apple pancake?
-jm
The Ranger
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> is there any place in the area that serves a "Ken's style"
> apple pancake?
I've never had a "Ken's style" apple pancake but something similar might
be found at The Pancake House on De Anza Blvd., on the border of West
San Jose and Cupertino, between 85 and Prospect.
It's been several years since I was last there, though, so I have no
idea if service has improved.
The Ranger
The Ranger
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> be found at The Pancake House on De Anza Blvd.
<sigh> That /should/ be "The *Original* Pancake House" on De Anza Blvd.
The Ranger
Max Hauser
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Absolutely. Modeled on the famous one of the same name in Portland. (As
was the short-lived but elegant Bridge Creek in Berkeley at Shattuck and
Cedar.)
1366 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd (De Anza) at Hwy 85, 408 255 7373.
Opened an annex in downtown Los Altos, San Antonio at Second, about 1998 in
the site of the former Polish restaurant there. Indifferent service but
still some classy pancakes.
Mean Green Dancing Machine
Max Hauser <maxR...@THIStdl.com> wrote:
>
>Opened an annex in downtown Los Altos, San Antonio at Second, about 1998 in
>the site of the former Polish restaurant there. Indifferent service but
>still some classy pancakes.
Which reminds me: last week while driving to Shebele, my secondary
noticed that there was a Polish restaurant on Winchester just south off
Hamilton (roughly where Golden Chopsticks used to be and across the
street from the Russian deli/restaurant). Anyone know anything about it?
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> "The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:buu5ta$m2g2a$1...@ID-61173.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> I <cuhul...@yahoo.com> incorrectly wrote in message
>> news:buu384$lvgo7$1...@ID-61173.news.uni-berlin.de...
>> > be found at The Pancake House on De Anza Blvd.
>>
>> <sigh> That /should/ be "The *Original* Pancake House" on De Anza Blvd.
>>
>
> Absolutely. Modeled on the famous one of the same name in Portland. (As
> was the short-lived but elegant Bridge Creek in Berkeley at Shattuck and
> Cedar.)
And Chicago, at least as far back as the 70's, and no doubt other
places as well. It is a chain, after all.
> 1366 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd (De Anza) at Hwy 85, 408 255 7373.
>
> Opened an annex in downtown Los Altos, San Antonio at Second, about 1998 in
> the site of the former Polish restaurant there. Indifferent service but
> still some classy pancakes.
This chain also has generally better coffee than Ken's dishwater, served
with real cream. Except when one gets a gung-ho cost-cutting new
manager who has to be brought up short about chintzing on quality.
The problem with both these sites, however, is their hours. I believe
De Anza closes by 3pm and Los Altos at 2pm. Ken's was at one time open
24 hours, very nice for us late night types. I once spent a very
lonely Christmas Eve sitting at the counter at Ken's in Mountain View
with a Runyon-esque bunch of fellow diners. It seems to be a niche
that needs filling, late night coffee shops. I wonder why they went out
of business.
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Todd Michel McComb
-jm <jac...@att.net> wrote:
>Now that the last Ken's has closed is there any place in the area
>that serves a "Ken's style" apple pancake?
Is this the fluffy baked pancake they made that they warned took a
long time? If so, it was fairly unique (and I don't know if the
other recommendations have it or not). However, we've since figured
out how to make it, so if you want, I'll post the recipe.
Glenn S. Tenney KCTJ CISSP
Jo Ann Malina <jma...@spamthis.com> wrote:
> >> <sigh> That /should/ be "The *Original* Pancake House" on De Anza Blvd.
>
> And Chicago, at least as far back as the 70's, and no doubt other
> places as well. It is a chain, after all.
I was going there on Green Bay in Wilmette (as I recall) back in the mid
60's. Those German apple pancakes were great!
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The Ranger
news:tenney-37D008....@corp.supernews.com to Jo Ann Malina's
<jma...@spamthis.com> post:
> > >> <sigh> That /should/ be "The *Original* Pancake House"
> > >> on De Anza Blvd.
> > >>
> > And Chicago, at least as far back as the 70's, and no doubt
> > other places as well. It is a chain, after all.
> >
> I was going there on Green Bay in Wilmette (as I recall) back
> in the mid 60's. Those German apple pancakes were great!
Those are two different items: German Pancake is an "elevated" crater
that is eye-catching and plate-filling. They don't taste bad, either.
The Apple Pancake is HUGE, takes a LONG time after ordering, and they
are usually enough for two people. If I eat there in the future, I'll
probably order the 49'ers, though.
The Ranger
Mean Green Dancing Machine
Any different from a dutch baby / german pancake?
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Todd Michel McComb
Mean Green Dancing Machine <aa...@pobox.com> wrote:
>Any different from a dutch baby / german pancake?
I'm afraid I'm not much of a pancake connoisseur, but we we did
approximate the particular kind I mentioned at Ken's fairly well.
I'm sure they're all related.
-jm
approximate the flavor, but not the fluff.
I've been a fan of Ken's apple pancakes since school days, oh so many
years ago, when Ken's Family Restaurant in Menlo Park was a fairly good
choice for student affordable comfort food. Coffee never was very good,
but it was a bottomless cup for a dime. The Special Steak dinner -- 8
oz sirloin, fries, and salad -- was $1.65; and an apple pancake to share
for dessert was 85 cents.
-jm
Todd Michel McComb
-jm <jac...@att.net> wrote:
>That's the one! It would be great if you would post your recipe;
>I can approximate the flavor, but not the fluff.
The main thing for the fluff is the eggs. It's almost like a
souffle.
Baked Apple Pancake
(1 large pancake)
2 tbsp sugar
1 tsp cinnamon
1 apple
2 tsp lemon juice
1/2 cup flour
pinch salt
2 eggs
1/3 cup milk
2 tbsp butter
confectioners' sugar
lemon slices
Preheat oven to 450F.
Mix sugar and cinnamon in a small bowl.
Peel and core the apple and slice thinly. Toss the apple slices
with the lemon juice and 1 tbsp of the cinnamon-sugar.
To the rest of the cinnamon-sugar, add the flour and a pinch of
salt. In a cup or bowl, whisk together the milk and eggs, and add
to the flour mixture in a stream, whisking until just combined
(lumps okay).
Heat 1 tbsp butter in a 9-inch cast iron skillet, coating the bottom.
When foam subsides, pour batter into skillet and quickly distribute
the apple slices. Cook pancake approx. 2-3 minutes until the
underside sets. Transfer the skillet to the oven and bake for
approx. 10 minutes.
Dot surface with remaining 1 tbsp butter and bake pancake until
puffed and golden. Sprinkle with confectioners' sugar and serve
immediately. Garnish with lemon slices if desired.
NOTE: Also works well with pear or plum, or with no fruit (but
without fruit, it gets *very* puffy).
[Courtesy of my wife]
Glenn S. Tenney KCTJ CISSP
"The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Those are two different items: German Pancake is an "elevated" crater
> that is eye-catching and plate-filling. They don't taste bad, either.
> The Apple Pancake is HUGE, takes a LONG time after ordering, and they
> are usually enough for two people.
The one I remembered having back then WAS a huge eye-catching
plate-filling Apple Pancake. I remember it being called a German Apple
Pancake (but maybe it was "Dutch")... it has been a while.
Regardless, they were GREAT!
Tim May
Tenney KCTJ CISSP <ten...@org.think> wrote:
> In article <bv13me$nir5k$1...@ID-61173.news.uni-berlin.de>,
> "The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Those are two different items: German Pancake is an "elevated" crater
> > that is eye-catching and plate-filling. They don't taste bad, either.
> > The Apple Pancake is HUGE, takes a LONG time after ordering, and they
> > are usually enough for two people.
>
> The one I remembered having back then WAS a huge eye-catching
> plate-filling Apple Pancake. I remember it being called a German Apple
> Pancake (but maybe it was "Dutch")... it has been a while.
>
> Regardless, they were GREAT!
And high in the evil carbs! As all of the evil bread, pasta, and rice
products are.
I was in Deluxe Foods of Aptos on Saturday, an upscale food market. I
spent a few minutes watching the bread aisle, where local bakeries are
well-represented (Gayle's, Alfaro's, Kelly's, etc.). I saw nothing
moving. Bread is not selling as it did until Atkins and South Beach
banned it. The well-stocked meat counter, however, was in a "take a
number" situation.
The population inversion and lasing, from low fat + carbs to high fat -
carbs + protein will very probably knock a bunch of producers out of
the economy. Bakeries which thrived during the "fill yourself up on
carbs" era will likely vanish during the "hamburgers without buns" era.
I expect in 2011 that the "Dr. Zamboni Diet," which emphasizes drinking
Mountain Dew with pretzels will come to the fore.
--Tim May
Al Eisner
> Max Hauser <maxR...@thistdl.com> is alleged to have said:
> > "The Ranger" <cuhul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:buu5ta$m2g2a$1...@ID-61173.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> I <cuhul...@yahoo.com> incorrectly wrote in message
> >> news:buu384$lvgo7$1...@ID-61173.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >> > be found at The Pancake House on De Anza Blvd.
> >>
> >> <sigh> That /should/ be "The *Original* Pancake House" on De Anza Blvd.
> >>
> >
> > Absolutely. Modeled on the famous one of the same name in Portland. (As
> > was the short-lived but elegant Bridge Creek in Berkeley at Shattuck and
> > Cedar.)
>
> And Chicago, at least as far back as the 70's, and no doubt other
> places as well. It is a chain, after all.
Bridge Creek was the best breakfast restaurant I've ever encountered. I'm
surprised about Max's statement above, however. While I've never been
to the Portland Original Pancake House, I've been to several branches
(including long ago the Wilmette, IL location Glenn mentioned, which
was one of the first few branches), and Bridge Creek, not being a pancake
house, resembled none of them.
--
Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA
Tak Nakamoto
"Todd Michel McComb" <mcc...@medieval.org> wrote > >That's the one! It
would be great if you would post your recipe;
> >I can approximate the flavor, but not the fluff.
>
> The main thing for the fluff is the eggs. It's almost like a
> souffle.
>
> Baked Apple Pancake
> (1 large pancake)
>
Oceanview Diner in Berkeley.
The SF Chronicle published a few years ago and I've been making it every
year during strawberry season.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/05/05/FD95301.DTL
Tak Nakamoto
Tim May
<Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@flora02.slac.stanford.edu>, Al Eisner
<eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> Bridge Creek was the best breakfast restaurant I've ever encountered. I'm
> surprised about Max's statement above, however. While I've never been
> to the Portland Original Pancake House, I've been to several branches
> (including long ago the Wilmette, IL location Glenn mentioned, which
> was one of the first few branches), and Bridge Creek, not being a pancake
> house, resembled none of them.
I thought the expression was: "Never eat a diner called "Mom's" or a
pancake house called "The Original Pancake House."
--Tim May
Allan Schaffer
>Which reminds me: last week while driving to Shebele, my secondary
>noticed that there was a Polish restaurant on Winchester just south off
>Hamilton (roughly where Golden Chopsticks used to be and across the
>street from the Russian deli/restaurant). Anyone know anything about it?
It is a Polish deli (not a restaurant) named "Seakor", an offshoot of
the Seakor deli in SF. Definitely authentic. Good for the usual Polish
deli items.
Allan
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Max Hauser
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> > Max Hauser <maxR...@thistdl.com> is alleged to have said:
> > >
> > > Absolutely. Modeled on the famous one of the same name in Portland.
(As
> > > was the short-lived but elegant Bridge Creek in Berkeley at Shattuck
and
> > > Cedar.)
> >
> surprised about Max's statement above, however. While I've never been
> to the Portland Original Pancake House, I've been to several branches
> (including long ago the Wilmette, IL location Glenn mentioned, which
> was one of the first few branches), and Bridge Creek, not being a pancake
> house, resembled none of them.
Sorry to surprise you, Al. My statement quoted the then-owner of the Bridge
Creek in 1987 who said that he had modeled the place on the Original Pancake
House in Portland (the only restaurant of such a title I'd then heard of; I
lived in Portland briefly in the 1970s). This also was discussed by Herb
Caen at the time, who also (1987 or early 1988) announced Bridge Creek's
closure. (I don't make up these things I post.) I believe I recommended
Bridge Creek on this newsgroup in 1987, and still have the menu and the Herb
Caen columns on file. There is a "Tea Selections By" credit on the menu,
seemed a bit precious at the time. Also in 1987, a visitor from Georgia,
Ron Schafer (of Oppenheim and Schafer, if any of you works in that
specialty) had a breakfast meeting with me at Bridge Creek (pork loin filets
with cream gravy; I had one of the soufflé pancakes) and, when he next
returned to the area, was disappointed to find it closed. I think he might
still remember it. In its earlier days Bridge Creek made a specialty, for a
time, of soufflé pancakes (the generic class of the Dutch Baby and the Apple
Pancake discussed in this thread) and I wrote to the owner to plead their
cause when he dropped them from the menu for a time. Still have that in my
corr file too I think. (You have to keep these things, lest people
challenge you on ba.food! :-) I do think that the Bay Area could use some
serious breakfast restaurants, I've found them in other states and countries
but it seems not to be a regular part of our culture here. (I don't just
mean eggs and bacon and greasy toast.)
Max W. Hauser
Al Eisner
> "Al Eisner" <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote in message
> news:Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@flora02.slac.stanford.edu...
> > > Max Hauser <maxR...@thistdl.com> is alleged to have said:
> > > >
> > > > Absolutely. Modeled on the famous one of the same name in Portland.
> (As
> > > > was the short-lived but elegant Bridge Creek in Berkeley at Shattuck
> and
> > > > Cedar.)
> > >
> > Bridge Creek was the best breakfast restaurant I've ever encountered. I'm
> > surprised about Max's statement above, however. While I've never been
> > to the Portland Original Pancake House, I've been to several branches
> > (including long ago the Wilmette, IL location Glenn mentioned, which
> > was one of the first few branches), and Bridge Creek, not being a pancake
> > house, resembled none of them.
>
> Sorry to surprise you, Al.
Why be sorry? It may be a pleasant surprise.... I did say that I'd
never been to the Portland original, but if it's anything like Bridge Creek
(as the branches I've tried surely are not), then I'd certainly plan to head
there if I ever get to Portland.
> My statement quoted the then-owner of the Bridge
> Creek in 1987 who said that he had modeled the place on the Original Pancake
> House in Portland (the only restaurant of such a title I'd then heard of; I
> lived in Portland briefly in the 1970s). This also was discussed by Herb
> Caen at the time, who also (1987 or early 1988) announced Bridge Creek's
> closure. (I don't make up these things I post.) I believe I recommended
> Bridge Creek on this newsgroup in 1987, and still have the menu and the Herb
> Caen columns on file. There is a "Tea Selections By" credit on the menu,
> seemed a bit precious at the time. Also in 1987, a visitor from Georgia,
> Ron Schafer (of Oppenheim and Schafer, if any of you works in that
> specialty) had a breakfast meeting with me at Bridge Creek (pork loin filets
> with cream gravy; I had one of the soufflé pancakes) and, when he next
> returned to the area, was disappointed to find it closed. I think he might
> still remember it. In its earlier days Bridge Creek made a specialty, for a
> time, of soufflé pancakes (the generic class of the Dutch Baby and the Apple
> Pancake discussed in this thread) and I wrote to the owner to plead their
> cause when he dropped them from the menu for a time. Still have that in my
> corr file too I think. (You have to keep these things, lest people
> challenge you on ba.food! :-) I do think that the Bay Area could use some
> serious breakfast restaurants, I've found them in other states and countries
> but it seems not to be a regular part of our culture here. (I don't just
> mean eggs and bacon and greasy toast.)
Brings back some memories. But on my few visits (always weekdays), I never
found the place well-populated. I would have expected more demand for that
sort of place in Berkeley.
Tim May
<Pine.GSO.4.58.04...@flora03.slac.stanford.edu>, Al Eisner
<eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
> Brings back some memories. But on my few visits (always weekdays), I never
> found the place well-populated. I would have expected more demand for that
> sort of place in Berkeley.
Not being crowded used to be a good thing. It still is.
I remember when pretty good eating places weren't very crowded. Today,
with the Net, with the "Best of..." awards, with endless newspaper
articles, it seems that some of the good places get "discovered" and
then are subject to what Larry Niven once referred to as "flash
crowds."
There's a breakfast place in Santa Cruz called "Zachary's" that I have
never eaten in. Partly because I rarely eat at restaurants or diners
for breakfast, but also because whenever I happen to see the place on a
Saturday or Sunday morning, there are long lines of twentysomethings
and UCSC students milling around outside, waiting for their coveted
spot inside.
To paraphrase Yogi Berra, "Zachary's got too popular--nobody goes there
anymore."
--Tim May
-jm
bizbee wrote:
>>The Special Steak dinner -- 8
>>oz sirloin, fries, and salad -- was $1.65;
>
>
1960 - '61
-jm
Max Hauser
news:270120041357132224%tim...@removethis.got.net...
> Not being crowded used to be a good thing. It still is.
>
> I remember when pretty good eating places weren't very crowded. Today,
> with the Net, with the "Best of..." awards, with endless newspaper
> articles, it seems that some of the good places get "discovered" and
> then are subject to what Larry Niven once referred to as "flash
> crowds."
I regret that an unfortunate took so long to see this. What is this
self-indulgent blather. "Flash Crowds" were an issue in the Bay Area 20
years ago as Sesser and Unterman related, and before them Seymore Whitelaw.
(What is "today" about the Net? The Usenet on which we speak has been,
demonstrably, fully publicly accessible to most of the US population for 20
years -- if they cared -- and longer in much of the Bay Area. If there is
something "today" about this, against evidence, then kindly demonstrate,
don't merely assert -- the vice of the shallow, the lost, and the precious.)
> There's a breakfast place in Santa Cruz called "Zachary's" that I have
> never eaten in. Partly because I rarely eat at restaurants or diners
> for breakfast, but also because whenever I happen to see the place on a
> Saturday or Sunday morning, there are long lines of twentysomethings
> and UCSC students milling around outside, waiting for their coveted
> spot inside.
As Mr Farren expressed it online in 1987, who owns a place among my
archives, "were you just up late, or are you always like this?" Regardless,
Mr May, you've staked your claim to be out of it. Forever.
"The dweeb and the crank will always be with us."
Jeff Lanam
Machine) wrote:
>In article <bv124u$1b94$1...@machaut.medieval.org>,
>Todd Michel McComb <mcc...@medieval.org> wrote:
>>In article <iqrQb.15286$zg...@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com>,
>>-jm <jac...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>Now that the last Ken's has closed is there any place in the area
>>>that serves a "Ken's style" apple pancake?
>>
>>Is this the fluffy baked pancake they made that they warned took a
>>long time? If so, it was fairly unique (and I don't know if the
>>other recommendations have it or not). However, we've since figured
>>out how to make it, so if you want, I'll post the recipe.
>
>Any different from a dutch baby / german pancake?
The German pancake at Ken's was like the apple pancake, without
the apples, but served with a lot of lemon slices and confectioners
suger. You mixed the sugar and lemon juice on the pancake.
Jo Ann Malina
Yeah, but the Apple pancake is covered with an icky-sweet glaze that
is missing from the German/Dutch pancake. Very different taste.
You're right about the lemon slices and sugar. Serving it on the side
means you add them to your own taste, not the cook's.
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Betsey Terry
require a 20 minute wait to make.
My mom has become quite proficient at making them herself, and as soon as my
cast iron skillets are seasoned enough, i'll attempt them myself.
Regards,
Betsey
"Jeff Lanam" <jeff.do...@compaq.com.not.dot.net> wrote in message
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> >>>Now that the last Ken's has closed is there any place in the area
> >>>that serves a "Ken's style" apple pancake?
> >>
> >>Is this the fluffy baked pancake they made that they warned took a
> >>long time? If so, it was fairly unique (and I don't know if the
> >>other recommendations have it or not). However, we've since figured
> >>out how to make it, so if you want, I'll post the recipe.
> >
> >Any different from a dutch baby / german pancake?
>
> The German pancake at Ken's was like the apple pancake, without
> the apples, but served with a lot of lemon slices and confectioners
> suger. You mixed the sugar and lemon juice on the pancake.
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