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sms
Aug 22, 2015, 7:54:07 PM8/22/15
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Sunnyvale Costco no longer has any lagers. Any Costcos with Stella,
Becks, or Tsing Tao?
Personally I like stout, especially now that I have a certificate from
the Guinness brewery that proves that I am qualified to correctly pour
Guinness, but the spousal unit likes lagers.
For now, I've switched to Henninger from TJ's but it isn't as good as
Tsing Tao or Stella.
Even 99 Ranch has no six packs of Tsing Tao anymore, only individual
21.6 ounce bottles.
Becks, or Tsing Tao?
Personally I like stout, especially now that I have a certificate from
the Guinness brewery that proves that I am qualified to correctly pour
Guinness, but the spousal unit likes lagers.
For now, I've switched to Henninger from TJ's but it isn't as good as
Tsing Tao or Stella.
Even 99 Ranch has no six packs of Tsing Tao anymore, only individual
21.6 ounce bottles.
Steve Pope
Aug 22, 2015, 8:21:12 PM8/22/15
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sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>Sunnyvale Costco no longer has any lagers. Any Costcos with Stella,
>Becks, or Tsing Tao?
Are you saying they do not have Pacifico, Corona and/or Bohemia?
>Sunnyvale Costco no longer has any lagers. Any Costcos with Stella,
>Becks, or Tsing Tao?
Or Harp?
Steve
Don Martinich
Aug 22, 2015, 8:36:13 PM8/22/15
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In article <mrb1vm$m0f$1...@dont-email.me>,
Do you have Rite Aid pharmacies near you? I just picked up a 12-pak of
Beck's for $9.99 plus deposit at my local Rite Aid. They have a good
beer selection with rotating weekly bargains. They do have Stella.
Beck's for $9.99 plus deposit at my local Rite Aid. They have a good
beer selection with rotating weekly bargains. They do have Stella.
sms
Aug 22, 2015, 9:45:57 PM8/22/15
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Todd Michel McComb
Aug 22, 2015, 9:53:22 PM8/22/15
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In article <mrb8hc$985$1...@dont-email.me>,
On or in? If it's only the former, you can probably still wipe it
off.
On or in? If it's only the former, you can probably still wipe it
off.
Peter Lawrence
Aug 22, 2015, 10:21:21 PM8/22/15
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who would ever buy that stuff. By far the worst tasting beer that's widely
available.
- Peter
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 12:04:45 AM8/23/15
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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 4:54:07 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> Sunnyvale Costco no longer has any lagers. Any Costcos with Stella,
> Becks, or Tsing Tao?
My beloved just brought me a case of Spaten Oktoberfest, I believe from the
> Sunnyvale Costco no longer has any lagers. Any Costcos with Stella,
> Becks, or Tsing Tao?
Santa Clara (SJC) Costco. It tastes fine, and expires next May.
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 12:06:29 AM8/23/15
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America. I get more taste pleasure from draft Miller High Life.
Tim May
Aug 23, 2015, 12:31:29 AM8/23/15
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--
Tim May
Tim May
Aug 23, 2015, 12:35:52 AM8/23/15
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On 2015-08-23 00:36:11 +0000, Don Martinich said:
> Do you have Rite Aid pharmacies near you? I just picked up a 12-pak of
> Beck's for $9.99 plus deposit at my local Rite Aid. They have a good
> beer selection with rotating weekly bargains. They do have Stella.
A blast from the past. It reminds me of 1975, when a "good beer" was
> Do you have Rite Aid pharmacies near you? I just picked up a 12-pak of
> Beck's for $9.99 plus deposit at my local Rite Aid. They have a good
> beer selection with rotating weekly bargains. They do have Stella.
either Lowenbrau (with the gold or silver foil), Beck's, or Heineken.
I thought they were all not worth the dollar a sixpack premium over
most American lagers.
Why anyone would buy them NOW is a mystery to me.
--
Tim May
Peter Lawrence
Aug 23, 2015, 1:05:42 AM8/23/15
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HORRID!!! The only worst tasting beer I've had the displeasure of drinking
is Corona Lite!
Try drinking it without a lime to fully realize how BAD it tastes. The lime
helps masks its massive shortcoming.
- Peter
Peter Lawrence
Aug 23, 2015, 1:07:04 AM8/23/15
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On 8/22/15 9:35 PM, Tim May wrote:
>
> A blast from the past. It reminds me of 1975, when a "good beer" was either
> Lowenbrau (with the gold or silver foil), Beck's, or Heineken.
>
> I thought they were all not worth the dollar a sixpack premium over most
> American lagers.
>
> Why anyone would buy them NOW is a mystery to me.
So which lagers do you prefer now?
>
> A blast from the past. It reminds me of 1975, when a "good beer" was either
> Lowenbrau (with the gold or silver foil), Beck's, or Heineken.
>
> I thought they were all not worth the dollar a sixpack premium over most
> American lagers.
>
> Why anyone would buy them NOW is a mystery to me.
- Peter
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 23, 2015, 1:16:49 AM8/23/15
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In article <mrbk7t$4qs$1...@dont-email.me>,
forgetable beers mentioned in this thread (egads!), but wow, Budweiser
is disgusting. I'd choke down a Corona over that, if ever forced.
True Budweiser story: The last time I had one was about a dozen
years ago, on an Amtrak trip across the country. It had been about
a dozen years previously since I had had one, and I found myself
really wanting a beer, and that's all there was. I thought to
myself... hell, I think I even said it out loud to my wife, "How
bad can it be?" Pretty bad. I couldn't finish it.
A few years later, at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, the only beer
they had was cans of Bud & Tecate. I tried to drink a can of Tecate.
I did manage to finish it, but wow, that was bad. I won't attempt
to compare to Corona, because I think everything they had down there
was skunked. You've never had bad wine until you've had it down
in their 120 degree weather, for instance. But no such excuse on
the train.
Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>Try drinking it without a lime to fully realize how BAD it tastes.
>The lime helps masks its massive shortcoming.
I'm not going to defend Corona, or any of the parade of very
>Try drinking it without a lime to fully realize how BAD it tastes.
>The lime helps masks its massive shortcoming.
forgetable beers mentioned in this thread (egads!), but wow, Budweiser
is disgusting. I'd choke down a Corona over that, if ever forced.
True Budweiser story: The last time I had one was about a dozen
years ago, on an Amtrak trip across the country. It had been about
a dozen years previously since I had had one, and I found myself
really wanting a beer, and that's all there was. I thought to
myself... hell, I think I even said it out loud to my wife, "How
bad can it be?" Pretty bad. I couldn't finish it.
A few years later, at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, the only beer
they had was cans of Bud & Tecate. I tried to drink a can of Tecate.
I did manage to finish it, but wow, that was bad. I won't attempt
to compare to Corona, because I think everything they had down there
was skunked. You've never had bad wine until you've had it down
in their 120 degree weather, for instance. But no such excuse on
the train.
sf
Aug 23, 2015, 1:51:45 AM8/23/15
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but that said - I tried Sapporo for the first time this weekend and
I'd drink it again if someone offered it to me.
--
Elitist Snob
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 1:53:10 AM8/23/15
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brown quart "Family-size" bottle. Or sealed cases a la Costco (the lack of
beer availability in sealed cases in the BA really chaps my hide).
Peter Lawrence
Aug 23, 2015, 1:57:07 AM8/23/15
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On 8/22/15 10:16 PM, Todd Michel McComb wrote:
> In article <mrbk7t$4qs$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try drinking it without a lime to fully realize how BAD it tastes.
>> The lime helps masks its massive shortcoming.
>
> I'm not going to defend Corona, or any of the parade of very
> forgetable beers mentioned in this thread (egads!), but wow, Budweiser
> is disgusting. I'd choke down a Corona over that, if ever forced.
>
> True Budweiser story: The last time I had one was about a dozen
> years ago, on an Amtrak trip across the country. It had been about
> a dozen years previously since I had had one, and I found myself
> really wanting a beer, and that's all there was. I thought to
> myself... hell, I think I even said it out loud to my wife, "How
> bad can it be?" Pretty bad. I couldn't finish it.
A Budweiser not past its expiration date and stored in good conditions
> In article <mrbk7t$4qs$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try drinking it without a lime to fully realize how BAD it tastes.
>> The lime helps masks its massive shortcoming.
>
> I'm not going to defend Corona, or any of the parade of very
> forgetable beers mentioned in this thread (egads!), but wow, Budweiser
> is disgusting. I'd choke down a Corona over that, if ever forced.
>
> True Budweiser story: The last time I had one was about a dozen
> years ago, on an Amtrak trip across the country. It had been about
> a dozen years previously since I had had one, and I found myself
> really wanting a beer, and that's all there was. I thought to
> myself... hell, I think I even said it out loud to my wife, "How
> bad can it be?" Pretty bad. I couldn't finish it.
tastes far better than a similar fresh and properly stored Corona. And
that's saying a lot. At least Bud's taste has a semblance of a real
Pilsner. The taste of a Corona has no semblance of any type of beer I have
ever consumed. I can only imagine that maybe this is how dishwater tastes.
I think it was marketing genius that the importers of Corona convinced
Americans to drink it always with a wedge of lime.
- Peter
Peter Lawrence
Aug 23, 2015, 2:01:54 AM8/23/15
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On 8/22/15 10:53 PM, Mike D. wrote:
>
> The simplest explanation is that your Corona was skunked. Try buying it in the
> brown quart "Family-size" bottle. Or sealed cases a la Costco (the lack of
> beer availability in sealed cases in the BA really chaps my hide).
That's what I first thought when I had a Corona without the prerequisite
>
> The simplest explanation is that your Corona was skunked. Try buying it in the
> brown quart "Family-size" bottle. Or sealed cases a la Costco (the lack of
> beer availability in sealed cases in the BA really chaps my hide).
lime. But I've tried a good number of Coronas afterwards without the lime,
and they taste just as bad. The solution when offered a Corona: ALWAYS have
it with a wedge of lime. But it's truly a horrendous beer without it.
- Peter
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 2:08:42 AM8/23/15
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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:51:45 PM UTC-7, sf wrote:
> I'm not a beer drinker by any means... had to look up what "lager" is,
> but that said - I tried Sapporo for the first time this weekend and
> I'd drink it again if someone offered it to me.
>
Currently Sapporo is contract-brewed by the City Brewery of LaCrosse, WI,
> I'm not a beer drinker by any means... had to look up what "lager" is,
> but that said - I tried Sapporo for the first time this weekend and
> I'd drink it again if someone offered it to me.
>
the former G. Heileman Brewing Co. (brewers of Old Style).
Although some is still imported -- from Canada, the Sleeman Brewery of
Guelph, Ontario.
And some might still even come from Japan, but you have to check the label
closely.
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 23, 2015, 2:17:14 AM8/23/15
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In article <mrbn8a$cti$1...@dont-email.me>,
Budweiser tastes to me like a variant on Coke... grain flavor syrup
mixed with carbonated water (and presumably some alcohol). I bet
they could make it come right out of the same style fountain, and
no one could tell the difference.
>I think it was marketing genius that the importers of Corona
>convinced Americans to drink it always with a wedge of lime.
The real genius was positioning it as a *premium* beer.
Corona story: I met a friend randomly in a context neither of us
really expected, having known each other in a different context,
and that was a bar. He wanted to buy me a beer, and I said sure.
So he comes back with a Corona. I'm sure I gulped, but I drank it
for the sake of politeness. I found it much easier to consume than
the other items I mentioned, and he ended up buying me 2 or 3 of
them.
Budweiser tastes to me like a variant on Coke... grain flavor syrup
mixed with carbonated water (and presumably some alcohol). I bet
they could make it come right out of the same style fountain, and
no one could tell the difference.
>I think it was marketing genius that the importers of Corona
>convinced Americans to drink it always with a wedge of lime.
Corona story: I met a friend randomly in a context neither of us
really expected, having known each other in a different context,
and that was a bar. He wanted to buy me a beer, and I said sure.
So he comes back with a Corona. I'm sure I gulped, but I drank it
for the sake of politeness. I found it much easier to consume than
the other items I mentioned, and he ended up buying me 2 or 3 of
them.
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 2:20:21 AM8/23/15
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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:57:07 PM UTC-7, Peter Lawrence wrote:
> A Budweiser not past its expiration date and stored in good conditions
> tastes far better than a similar fresh and properly stored Corona. And
> that's saying a lot. At least Bud's taste has a semblance of a real
> Pilsner. The taste of a Corona has no semblance of any type of beer I have
> ever consumed. I can only imagine that maybe this is how dishwater tastes.[
I had my first Corona over 30 years ago and it was fine. The importer
> A Budweiser not past its expiration date and stored in good conditions
> tastes far better than a similar fresh and properly stored Corona. And
> that's saying a lot. At least Bud's taste has a semblance of a real
> Pilsner. The taste of a Corona has no semblance of any type of beer I have
> ever consumed. I can only imagine that maybe this is how dishwater tastes.[
was located in Chicago, as was I. There were three gimmicks -- the clear
bottle (skunkiness promoter), the painted-on label, and the lime wedge,
which we had gotten used to from drinking tequila.
>
> I think it was marketing genius that the importers of Corona convinced
> Americans to drink it always with a wedge of lime.
>
and posters featured the lime wedge.
The trouble with squeezing a lime wedge in the beer is that oil from
the peel kills the head retention.
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 2:23:19 AM8/23/15
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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 11:17:14 PM UTC-7, Todd Michel McComb wrote:
> In article <mrbn8a$cti$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >At least Bud's taste has a semblance of a real Pilsner.
>
> Budweiser tastes to me like a variant on Coke... grain flavor syrup
> mixed with carbonated water (and presumably some alcohol). I bet
> they could make it come right out of the same style fountain, and
> no one could tell the difference.
>
A good Munich dunkel tastes like a cola to me. Budweiser is essentially
> In article <mrbn8a$cti$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
> >At least Bud's taste has a semblance of a real Pilsner.
>
> Budweiser tastes to me like a variant on Coke... grain flavor syrup
> mixed with carbonated water (and presumably some alcohol). I bet
> they could make it come right out of the same style fountain, and
> no one could tell the difference.
>
Coors fermented with a different yeast, that provides a taste I dislike.
Until they went on their craft beer buying binge, Michelob was the only
AB beer I could stand.
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 23, 2015, 2:32:40 AM8/23/15
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Todd Michel McComb
Aug 23, 2015, 4:02:52 AM8/23/15
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>Until they went on their craft beer buying binge, Michelob was the
>only AB beer I could stand.
On one of our cross-country driving trips, we stayed in some
>only AB beer I could stand.
god-forsaken town, and the one bar anywhere near the hotel had only
"mass market" beer. This was also about a dozen years ago. I
successfully avoided these situations for the most part, but not
this time. Anyway, I was quite apprehensive, but got a Michelob
Amber Bock (I believe on draft). I drank it, but there was nothing
else, and so by the third one, I was really sick of it. It gave
me a nasty headache too.
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 11:59:42 AM8/23/15
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Actually, since Coors went to high gravity brewing plus dilution,
Miller High Life is the only industrial beer I can drink any more.
i would
Mike D.
Aug 23, 2015, 12:00:41 PM8/23/15
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sms
Aug 23, 2015, 12:42:39 PM8/23/15
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(Beer Avocate/Consensus)
Corona Extra: 54/47
TsingTao: 66/84
Stella Artois: 71/72
Becks: 67/62
Henninger: 70/71
These scores jive pretty much with my own experiences.
For a mass market lager, I try to buy Stella or Tsing Tao. Becks is third.
One thing about Costco is that the beer selection varies widely between
stores. Santa Cruz appears to have the best selection so when I'm over
there I usually stop by.
Henninger is also good, but I prefer 12 ounce bottles to the 500 ml cans
that Trader Joe's sells, but it's a good value. I think that a lot of
people automatically assume that anything in cans is automatically bad.
Actually, at Trader Joe's I prefer beer in cans because it seems to
tolerate the way they handle their products better.
sf
Aug 23, 2015, 1:02:16 PM8/23/15
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--
Elitist Snob
Al Eisner
Aug 24, 2015, 12:39:55 AM8/24/15
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I speculate that you must have had a traumatic experience involving
Corona. Perhaps your car collided wiith a Corona truck, and got
covered inside and outside with the stuff. Perhaps worse.
ObNewYorker: an old cartoon shows a milk truck colliding with
a Rice Krispies truck, and the drivers cowering at the side of the
road, covering their ears. (One may have to be of a certain age
to get that one.)
--
Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 24, 2015, 12:51:19 AM8/24/15
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In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.1...@iris02.slac.stanford.edu>,
just to keep up with all the fast food, if nothing else. Maybe his
beverage consumption is similar.
Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>If it's that bad, why have you kept trying it ("a good number")?
Sometimes I think that Peter must eat in 10 restaurants every day,
>If it's that bad, why have you kept trying it ("a good number")?
just to keep up with all the fast food, if nothing else. Maybe his
beverage consumption is similar.
Al Eisner
Aug 24, 2015, 12:54:32 AM8/24/15
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, sms wrote:
> Beer Advocate Scores <http://www.beeradvocate.com/>
>
> (Beer Avocate/Consensus)
>
> Corona Extra: 54/47
> TsingTao: 66/84
> Stella Artois: 71/72
> Becks: 67/62
> Henninger: 70/71
I couldn't find any such information at that web page. Normally they
> Beer Advocate Scores <http://www.beeradvocate.com/>
>
> (Beer Avocate/Consensus)
>
> Corona Extra: 54/47
> TsingTao: 66/84
> Stella Artois: 71/72
> Becks: 67/62
> Henninger: 70/71
rate beers on a scale from 0 to 5. Do you have a better link?
Peter Lawrence
Aug 24, 2015, 1:07:22 AM8/24/15
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On 8/23/15 9:42 AM, sms wrote:
>
> Beer Advocate Scores <http://www.beeradvocate.com/>
>
> (Beer Avocate/Consensus)
>
> Corona Extra: 54/47
> TsingTao: 66/84
> Stella Artois: 71/72
> Becks: 67/62
> Henninger: 70/71
>
> These scores jive pretty much with my own experiences.
>
> For a mass market lager, I try to buy Stella or Tsing Tao. Becks is third.
>
> One thing about Costco is that the beer selection varies widely between
> stores. Santa Cruz appears to have the best selection so when I'm over there
> I usually stop by.
>
> Henninger is also good, but I prefer 12 ounce bottles to the 500 ml cans
> that Trader Joe's sells, but it's a good value. I think that a lot of people
> automatically assume that anything in cans is automatically bad. Actually,
> at Trader Joe's I prefer beer in cans because it seems to tolerate the way
> they handle their products better.
The lager I prefer most nowadays isn't mass market, but it's not that pricy
>
> Beer Advocate Scores <http://www.beeradvocate.com/>
>
> (Beer Avocate/Consensus)
>
> Corona Extra: 54/47
> TsingTao: 66/84
> Stella Artois: 71/72
> Becks: 67/62
> Henninger: 70/71
>
> These scores jive pretty much with my own experiences.
>
> For a mass market lager, I try to buy Stella or Tsing Tao. Becks is third.
>
> One thing about Costco is that the beer selection varies widely between
> stores. Santa Cruz appears to have the best selection so when I'm over there
> I usually stop by.
>
> Henninger is also good, but I prefer 12 ounce bottles to the 500 ml cans
> that Trader Joe's sells, but it's a good value. I think that a lot of people
> automatically assume that anything in cans is automatically bad. Actually,
> at Trader Joe's I prefer beer in cans because it seems to tolerate the way
> they handle their products better.
for a craft beer, either. It's North Coast Brewing Company's Scrimshaw
Pilsner. Worth seeking out.
- Peter
Peter Lawrence
Aug 24, 2015, 1:09:43 AM8/24/15
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On 8/23/15 8:59 AM, Mike D. wrote:
>
> Actually, since Coors went to high gravity brewing plus dilution,
> Miller High Life is the only industrial beer I can drink any more.
I thought you still drank Coronas too.
>
> Actually, since Coors went to high gravity brewing plus dilution,
> Miller High Life is the only industrial beer I can drink any more.
- Peter
Peter Lawrence
Aug 24, 2015, 2:10:29 AM8/24/15
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On 8/23/15 9:39 PM, Al Eisner wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>> On 8/22/15 10:53 PM, Mike D. wrote:
>>>
>>> The simplest explanation is that your Corona was skunked. Try buying it
>>> in the
>>> brown quart "Family-size" bottle. Or sealed cases a la Costco (the lack of
>>> beer availability in sealed cases in the BA really chaps my hide).
>>
>> That's what I first thought when I had a Corona without the prerequisite
>> lime. But I've tried a good number of Coronas afterwards without the
>> lime, and they taste just as bad. The solution when offered a Corona:
>> ALWAYS have it with a wedge of lime. But it's truly a horrendous beer
>> without it.
>
> If it's that bad, why have you kept trying it ("a good number")?
> I speculate that you must have had a traumatic experience involving
> Corona. Perhaps your car collided wiith a Corona truck, and got
> covered inside and outside with the stuff. Perhaps worse.
Simple: I have friends that like that stuff (along with other beers like
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>> On 8/22/15 10:53 PM, Mike D. wrote:
>>>
>>> The simplest explanation is that your Corona was skunked. Try buying it
>>> in the
>>> brown quart "Family-size" bottle. Or sealed cases a la Costco (the lack of
>>> beer availability in sealed cases in the BA really chaps my hide).
>>
>> That's what I first thought when I had a Corona without the prerequisite
>> lime. But I've tried a good number of Coronas afterwards without the
>> lime, and they taste just as bad. The solution when offered a Corona:
>> ALWAYS have it with a wedge of lime. But it's truly a horrendous beer
>> without it.
>
> If it's that bad, why have you kept trying it ("a good number")?
> I speculate that you must have had a traumatic experience involving
> Corona. Perhaps your car collided wiith a Corona truck, and got
> covered inside and outside with the stuff. Perhaps worse.
Coors Light and Bud Light). I myself haven't bought a Corona since the
mid-1980s.
- Peter
sms
Aug 24, 2015, 11:20:46 AM8/24/15
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We got there in time for the "manager's reception." The bar offered two
beers as part of the included drinks, Bud Light and Coors Light. So I
had bad vodka instead if beer. They had a bunch of draft beers, but the
manager had decided that those were not part of the reception. At least
there was so much food that we did not have to eat dinner.
OT: Always reserve Hilton brands via <http://stay.hilton.com/mvp/> and
be a Hilton Honors Member. At Embassy Suites they charge for Internet
unless you are a Hilton Honors member and reserve on the Hilton site.
The booking sites are invariably higher cost than the direct hotel sites
anyway so I am amazed that anyone uses them. They are good for searching
for hotels, then you go reserve directly.
Al Eisner
Aug 24, 2015, 2:17:24 PM8/24/15
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is taken up with a "Reviews and Ratings" list, all of which are on
a scale of up to 5. Moreover, the beers in question are labelled
(at the top of the page) "not rated". So what are these numbers
like 54, etc.? How should one calibrate them?
Mike D.
Aug 24, 2015, 2:26:10 PM8/24/15
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the individual scores through a process proprietary to the Beer Advocate.
Ratings here at BeerAdvocate can be a bit daunting. The following will help explain the basics used for both Beers and Places.
BeerAdvocate Overall Score (BOS)
The BOS is a proprietary weighted point (not percentile) system that represents the final overall score for a beer or place. Its purpose is to help make some sense out of the rAvg (1-5 based review average) and provide consumers with a quick reference when comparing one beer or place to another.
BOS Range
95-100 = world-class
90-94 = outstanding
85-89 = very good
80-84 = good
70-79 = okay
60-69 = poor
< 60 = awful
Notes:
A beer or place must have 10 or more reviews in order to receive a BOS.
Individual member reviews are not given a BOS.
WR (weighted rank)
A Bayesian estimate that pulls data from millions of user reviews and normalizes scores based on the number of reviews for each beer or place. The WR represents the beer or place's score against all others. WR is used to help generate the BOS.
What's the "BROS" score?
From 1996 to 2000 the only ratings and reviews on the site were from BeerAdvocate founders and brothers Jason & Todd Alström. It's a nod to those early days and provides some comparison to the BOS.
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 24, 2015, 2:26:36 PM8/24/15
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In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.1...@iris03.slac.stanford.edu>,
>How should one calibrate them?
No idea why they change the scales. Anyway, it's mass market beer
that you can readily try yourself any time you want. Who cares
what people rate it online?
Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Moreover, the beers in question are labelled (at the top of the
>page) "not rated".
Not rated by you.
>Moreover, the beers in question are labelled (at the top of the
>page) "not rated".
>How should one calibrate them?
that you can readily try yourself any time you want. Who cares
what people rate it online?
Al Eisner
Aug 24, 2015, 2:37:20 PM8/24/15
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restaurants. :)
Al Eisner
Aug 24, 2015, 2:59:37 PM8/24/15
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> Ratings here at BeerAdvocate can be a bit daunting. The following will help explain the basics used for both Beers and Places.
>
> BeerAdvocate Overall Score (BOS)
> The BOS is a proprietary weighted point (not percentile) system that represents the final overall score for a beer or place. Its purpose is to help make some sense out of the rAvg (1-5 based review average) and provide consumers with a quick reference when comparing one beer or place to another.
>
> BOS Range
>
> 95-100 = world-class
> 90-94 = outstanding
> 85-89 = very good
> 80-84 = good
> 70-79 = okay
> 60-69 = poor
> < 60 = awful
> Notes:
>
> A beer or place must have 10 or more reviews in order to receive a BOS.
> Individual member reviews are not given a BOS.
>
> WR (weighted rank)
> A Bayesian estimate that pulls data from millions of user reviews and normalizes scores based on the number of reviews for each beer or place. The WR represents the beer or place's score against all others. WR is used to help generate the BOS.
>
> What's the "BROS" score?
> From 1996 to 2000 the only ratings and reviews on the site were from BeerAdvocate founders and brothers Jason & Todd Alström. It's a nod to those early days and provides some comparison to the BOS.
still don't really explain the scores ("proprietary"). Probably the
only recourse for understanding them better would be to try hundreds of
beers, in order to compare my impressions with their scores. And not
(contra Todd) the mass market industrial brews. I clearly have a
lot of work ahead. :)
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 24, 2015, 3:30:48 PM8/24/15
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In article <alpine.LRH.2.00.1...@iris03.slac.stanford.edu>,
Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>Probably the only recourse for understanding them better would be
>to try hundreds of beers, in order to compare my impressions with
>their scores. And not (contra Todd) the mass market industrial
>brews. I clearly have a lot of work ahead. :)
As you can likely imagine, the best use for those beer sites is for
>to try hundreds of beers, in order to compare my impressions with
>their scores. And not (contra Todd) the mass market industrial
>brews. I clearly have a lot of work ahead. :)
descriptions of beers that you encounter, and don't know what they
are. Sometimes the descriptions (of style, etc.) are not that
great, but that part is mostly OK.
Peter Lawrence
Aug 24, 2015, 4:06:59 PM8/24/15
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have in their refrigerators. There are no other choices in regards to beers.
- Peter
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 24, 2015, 4:08:33 PM8/24/15
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In article <mrftdp$cl9$1...@dont-email.me>,
Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>Um... It's not at restaurants, but at their homes. That's what
>they buy and have in their refrigerators. There are no other
>choices in regards to beers.
I always bring beer to social gatherings.
>Um... It's not at restaurants, but at their homes. That's what
>they buy and have in their refrigerators. There are no other
>choices in regards to beers.
Peter Lawrence
Aug 24, 2015, 4:39:01 PM8/24/15
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stopping over for a visit and them offering me something to drink.
- Peter
Don Martinich
Aug 24, 2015, 8:58:55 PM8/24/15
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In article <mre9t9$g62$1...@dont-email.me>,
I stopped going to wine tastings where the group would rate the wine and
checking out beer rating articles and sites years ago. It's just to
damned subjective. But if I did rate beers it would look something like
this:
Corona, Dos Equis lager, Bud Light, Coors etc. -crappy
Pabst -almost drinkable
Bavaria, Heineken, Becks -drinkable
Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
Schoenramer Pils, -excellent, from Bavaria, probably my favorite
pilsener (but expensive!)
Since I don't rate beverages, this post does not exist!
D.M.
checking out beer rating articles and sites years ago. It's just to
damned subjective. But if I did rate beers it would look something like
this:
Corona, Dos Equis lager, Bud Light, Coors etc. -crappy
Pabst -almost drinkable
Bavaria, Heineken, Becks -drinkable
Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
Schoenramer Pils, -excellent, from Bavaria, probably my favorite
pilsener (but expensive!)
Since I don't rate beverages, this post does not exist!
D.M.
evergene
Aug 24, 2015, 9:13:05 PM8/24/15
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Don Martinich wrote:
>I stopped going to wine tastings where the group would rate the wine and
>checking out beer rating articles and sites years ago. It's just to
>damned subjective. But if I did rate beers it would look something like
>this:
>
>Corona, Dos Equis lager, Bud Light, Coors etc. -crappy
>
>Pabst -almost drinkable
>
>Bavaria, Heineken, Becks -drinkable
>
>Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
>
>Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
>
>Schoenramer Pils, -excellent, from Bavaria, probably my favorite
>pilsener (but expensive!)
>
>
>Since I don't rate beverages, this post does not exist!
>
>D.M.
Thanks for posting this hypothetical list.
>I stopped going to wine tastings where the group would rate the wine and
>checking out beer rating articles and sites years ago. It's just to
>damned subjective. But if I did rate beers it would look something like
>this:
>
>Corona, Dos Equis lager, Bud Light, Coors etc. -crappy
>
>Pabst -almost drinkable
>
>Bavaria, Heineken, Becks -drinkable
>
>Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
>
>Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
>
>Schoenramer Pils, -excellent, from Bavaria, probably my favorite
>pilsener (but expensive!)
>
>
>Since I don't rate beverages, this post does not exist!
>
>D.M.
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 24, 2015, 9:17:52 PM8/24/15
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In article <dmartinich-42EFB...@text.giganews.com>,
as the North Coast Scrimshaw that Peter mentioned.
It's not really a style I seek out, though.
Don Martinich <dmart...@att.net> wrote:
>Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
>Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
The Firestone Piwo Pils has become pretty widely available, as well
>Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
>Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
as the North Coast Scrimshaw that Peter mentioned.
It's not really a style I seek out, though.
Mike D.
Aug 24, 2015, 11:58:29 PM8/24/15
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On Monday, August 24, 2015 at 6:17:52 PM UTC-7, Todd Michel McComb wrote:
> In article <dmartinich-42EFB...@text.giganews.com>,
> Don Martinich <dmart...@att.net> wrote:
> >Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
I note that Lagunitas IPA uses the EXACT WRONG HOP, a variety of
> In article <dmartinich-42EFB...@text.giganews.com>,
> Don Martinich <dmart...@att.net> wrote:
> >Lagunitas Pils, Ozujsko (Croatia) -pretty good
Hallertauer if I'm not mistaken.
> >Czechvar lager, Sudwerk pilsener - very good, have been regular choices
Pilsner isn't bad. I wish they still made their orginal Helles.
>
> The Firestone Piwo Pils has become pretty widely available, as well
life. You can't indicate you are making an iconic beer and then use
weirdass ingredients.
> as the North Coast Scrimshaw that Peter mentioned.
>
Todd Michel McComb
Aug 25, 2015, 12:07:55 AM8/25/15
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In article <d97d8cd7-3ebf-446e...@googlegroups.com>,
It's also mainly Hallertauer, as is Firestone's, so you presumably
won't like it.
won't like it.
Mike D.
Aug 25, 2015, 11:52:11 AM8/25/15
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likely to be disappointed.
Tim May
Aug 26, 2015, 10:46:04 AM8/26/15
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On 2015-08-23 05:07:03 +0000, Peter Lawrence said:
> On 8/22/15 9:35 PM, Tim May wrote:
>>
>> A blast from the past. It reminds me of 1975, when a "good beer" was either
>> Lowenbrau (with the gold or silver foil), Beck's, or Heineken.
>>
>> I thought they were all not worth the dollar a sixpack premium over most
>> American lagers.
>>
>> Why anyone would buy them NOW is a mystery to me.
>
> So which lagers do you prefer now?
It's been years since I bought one.
I used to like Spaten Optimator a lot, but it's a doppelbock.
Mostly now I like IPAs and DIPAs, such as Stone's Arrogant Bastard and
variants, Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale, Torpedo, and variants, and
Russian River's Pliny the Elder. And Lagunitas. And several others.
--
Tim May
> On 8/22/15 9:35 PM, Tim May wrote:
>>
>> A blast from the past. It reminds me of 1975, when a "good beer" was either
>> Lowenbrau (with the gold or silver foil), Beck's, or Heineken.
>>
>> I thought they were all not worth the dollar a sixpack premium over most
>> American lagers.
>>
>> Why anyone would buy them NOW is a mystery to me.
>
> So which lagers do you prefer now?
It's been years since I bought one.
I used to like Spaten Optimator a lot, but it's a doppelbock.
Mostly now I like IPAs and DIPAs, such as Stone's Arrogant Bastard and
variants, Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale, Torpedo, and variants, and
Russian River's Pliny the Elder. And Lagunitas. And several others.
--
Tim May
Julian Macassey
Aug 26, 2015, 11:50:49 AM8/26/15
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 07:46:02 -0700, Tim May <tc...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Mostly now I like IPAs and DIPAs, such as Stone's Arrogant Bastard and
> variants, Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale, Torpedo, and variants, and
> Russian River's Pliny the Elder. And Lagunitas. And several others.
>
The IPA by which the others should be judges is Ninkase Total
>
> Mostly now I like IPAs and DIPAs, such as Stone's Arrogant Bastard and
> variants, Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale, Torpedo, and variants, and
> Russian River's Pliny the Elder. And Lagunitas. And several others.
>
Domination. Brewed in Eugene, Oregon.
http://www.ninkasibrewing.com/delicious/beers/flagship-series/total-domination.html?ageVerified=defaultValue
--
"We can’t be successful unless we lie to customers.” Larry
Ellison to Bruce Scott.
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