What's the least offensive way to get these clueless and inconsiderate
people to move along?
Sometimes I use "hot food comin' through" or "please don't block the
aisle," which are marginally effective.
I also wish that the Costco's here would give samples of items like
wine, beer, and liquor. I was at a Costco in Seoul Korea, and they
sampled these items.
> What's the least offensive way to get these clueless and inconsiderate
> people to move along?
How about a polite "excuse me" in a voice loud enough to hear and not
so loud as to be rude?
--
Never trust a dog to watch your food.
Just a simple (and polite - with a smile) 'excuse me' or 'pardon' usually
does the trick for me.
Where I have a bigger problem of customers not moving along quick enough is
often times at the checkout counter after they have paid for their goods and
the cashier has handed back their change or credit/debit card.
Many customers seem to take their sweet time in putting back the change (or
credit card) back in their wallet (and especially purses), not budging an
even an inch away from the credit/debit card machine often used nowadays.
Often times the cashier has finished ringing up *my* items and the cashier
and I still have to wait for the previous customer to clear away from the
checkstand so I can slide my credit card through the credit card reader and
complete my transaction. This repeated, slows the whole line down.
Come'on, how long should it take to put ones credit card or cash away?
And if someone decides then and now is the time to reorganize their purse
(which appears to be the case too many times), why can't they just take
several steps further down the checkout stand so they don't block the
credit/debit card reader for other customers?
Grrrrr.
- Peter
well, once you have finished eating your sample that came on a nice, sharp
toothpick . . .
Never mind the sample area, how do you get people to get their carts and
their asses out of the way while shopping?
> What's the least offensive way to get these clueless and inconsiderate
> people to move along?
"Excuse Me!"
As for behavior...Rarely does the product grab me enough to buy it.
> I also wish that the Costco's here would give samples of items like
> wine, beer, and liquor. I was at a Costco in Seoul Korea, and they
> sampled these items.
They have an "off sale" license, so they are limited to free samples
of 1 oz of beer and wine or 1/4 oz of distilled spirits. Further, no
more than a total of 3 samples can be given to one individual in one
day. A minimum wage worker dispensing the samples may have a hard
time keeping track of all that. You can bet, however, some asshole ABC
agent would have no problem at all...It just doesn't seem that it's
worth the risk/hassle.
Ciccio
Of course, that's after the idiots started searching for their debit/
credit cards AFTER all their items have been rung up...
Ciccio
But what I find very ironic, even those who wait until all their items have
been rung up to get out their cash or credit/debit card *always* seem to be
quicker in getting their card/cash out of their wallet/purse versus putting
the card/cash back inside. Never could understand the reason for that.
- Peter
> Many customers seem to take their sweet time in putting back the change (or
> credit card) back in their wallet (and especially purses), not budging an
> even an inch away from the credit/debit card machine often used nowadays.
> Often times the cashier has finished ringing up *my* items and the cashier
> and I still have to wait for the previous customer to clear away from the
> checkstand so I can slide my credit card through the credit card reader and
> complete my transaction. This repeated, slows the whole line down.
>
> Come'on, how long should it take to put ones credit card or cash away?
>
> And if someone decides then and now is the time to reorganize their purse
> (which appears to be the case too many times), why can't they just take
> several steps further down the checkout stand so they don't block the
> credit/debit card reader for other customers?
What rubs me raw is those people who put their groceries on the belt,
pick up the filled bag and just walk off leaving their cart to block
the isle. It has happened to me more times than I can count.
1. This cannot happen at Costco -- there is a cart wrangler at each
checkout.
2. Growing up I learned you empty your cart and push it ahead of you
so the bagger can put the filled bags in the cart so you can push it
to your car -- these other people were raised by wolves.
It is in fact harder to put cash neatly back into a wallet than to
pull it out. My new wallet is particularly obnoxious to use because
its zippered cash compartment (which I wanted for security) is
apparently a bit smaller than the US dollar bill.
>One of my pet peeves is the behavior of people around the sample tables
>and booths in stores like Costco and Trader Joe's. Often they'll take a
>sample, and rather than moving along, they'll stand right in front of
>the table blocking access for everyone else, and often dribbling crumbs
>over the table. At Costco they'll often block the aisle with their carts
>as well.
This hovering behavior also occurs at bars, receptions where food is
presented on tables, farmers markets, etc. I am also annoyed by
it, because it seems that if 2% of the people present behave
this way, the other 98% are inconvenienced. People who have
already gotten their stuff should move away from an area where
other people desire service.
However I do not try to act on this by saying anything about it.
Steve
But what about those who use a credit/debit card? Why does it take some of
those people a lot longer to put away their card than to take it out?
- Peter
A similar, possibly related, behavior is what I see often when group (large
or small) of people leave a room, auditorium, concert hall, arena, or
stadium. They exit the door, tunnel, stairs of the section where they were
seated, and then just *stop*, blocking the path of everyone who is behind
them, instead of walking just a *little bit* further where they could stop
and regroup without causing such a log jam.
- Peter
>
> A similar, possibly related, behavior is what I see often when group
> (large or small) of people leave a room, auditorium, concert hall, arena,
> or stadium. They exit the door, tunnel, stairs of the section where they
> were seated, and then just *stop*, blocking the path of everyone who is
> behind them, instead of walking just a *little bit* further where they
> could stop and regroup without causing such a log jam.
I just had a flashback to my European travels. Even one person exiting a
room and stalling got to be very annoying.
I generally jam all that into a safe pocket after the purchase, and
straighten out my life at home, rather than in front of and to the delay and
annoyance of others.
Thank you!
It's certainly appreciated by others.
- Peter
People do that at the top of an escalator ("Now, which way to I go to
get to Wicks and Sticks?") I just want to knock them down like tenpins.
I have so many loyalty cards, AAA, etc., I need to put my credit card
away in the proper slot. Last time I was sloppy I was charged for a
cash advance, when I stuck my credit card into the ATM.
> On 10/8/10 12:22 PM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
Maybe you should order your groceries online. Fewer annoyances there.
Given an object and a slot for the object that is roughly the same size
as the object, it is more difficult to take the object out of the slot
than putting it back.
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<*> <*> <*>
"Just because I'm selling you into slavery doesn't mean we can't be
friends." B-movie cliche Hall of Fame (_Bounty Hunter: 2002_)
I've never run into that problem, but an easy fix for that problem is
for the shopping center to put a floor directory at the top/bottom of
the escalator - far enough away that the person in a pickle will clear
it so others can depart.
I think you have that backwards - it is more difficult to fit it into
the slot than to take it out.
jc
I still get a kick out of the people who try to get on an elevator or a
subway car before letting out those who wish.
That depends what the object is, what the slot is, and how drunk you both
are.
But I would presume that the proper slot should be easy to locate since it
was the slot that you removed the card from moments earlier.
:)
- Peter
Maybe other shoppers should be more considerate about those behind them in
line and not just act like the world revolves around them.
;)
- Peter
How many cards in your wallet, and how many separate individual slots?
The last time I was at a farmers; market, a guy sampling stone fruits
not only blocked others from the display, he kept the tongs in his
hand. Let me know when you're done fella, and I'll come back, mmmkay?
Well, in my wallet, the cards pull out easily, but sometimes catch
on the leather when being shoved back in, and I sometimes have to
fumble with them. I should get a new wallet, where that wouldn't
be an issue, but then I'd have the learning curve of the new wallet.
So yeah, it can take me several seconds to get this done.
I think many people are just oblivious. I'm not as fast at doing
some of this stuff as when I was younger, but I'm aware people are
waiting and try to get out of the way. Sometimes I'll move "around
the corner" to the end of the checkstand, if I need to rearrange
my stuff in a way that works for me (checkers don't seem to care
much how practical their packing is).
I've noticed that even small children, e.g. at a school, will do
the analogous thing. They generally congregate in doorways or other
bottlenecks. I've concluded that it's something about the human
psyche, although I don't know what. I agree it's quite annoying.
>People do that at the top of an escalator ("Now, which way to I go to
>get to Wicks and Sticks?") I just want to knock them down like tenpins.
Worse than that is when you're stuck on an escalator during a power
outage.
Made to fit a yaun note?
They are the ones who get trampled to death when someone else yells fire so
their true IQ is a given.
> Maybe other shoppers should be more considerate about those behind
> them in line and not just act like the world revolves around them.
>
They should know, but they don't know, and they never will.
Pardon me, but I don't think you realized I AM RANTING HERE.
Carry on.
> Well, in my wallet, the cards pull out easily, but sometimes catch
> on the leather when being shoved back in, and I sometimes have to
> fumble with them.
My cards are easier to put back than to take out, money (paper) is
harder to put into the wallet unless it's crisp and new.
Whatever. I don't find it hard to retrieve a card, swipe it, replace
it, and poke all the buttons while the clerk is scanning my items. I'm
always done before s/he is, and it saves me time.
I share the general annoyance with people who wait until the bags are
packed before they remember, "Doh! I'm going to need money!"
Ph.
--
"We are all Bayesians at heart, but when it comes to actions in this
world their approach, which at times may be the only one available,
leaves much to be desired." R. W. Hamming
The credit card that I regularly use goes in a slot. (Why wouldn't it
otherwise?)
- Peter
I usually swipe my credit card while the cashier is ringing up my items.
The one exception, I've learned from experience, Target. Why? If the
cashier made a mistake (like rang up an item twice) and you have already
swiped your card, the cashier will make you go to the Customer Service line
to have it corrected instead of correcting the overcharge right there at the
cash register.
- Peter
I've come to the same conclusion, that it's probably some ingrained innate
instinctual behavior. I've wondered if apes in the wild behave the same way.
- Peter
probably a safety issue. You cross from cover to open, but can quickly get
back to cover if need be. Why people in a European museum need to get back
to the "cover" of a museum room, I'll never know.
> Whatever. I don't find it hard to retrieve a card, swipe it, replace
> it, and poke all the buttons while the clerk is scanning my items. I'm
> always done before s/he is, and it saves me time.
Which means you don't keep an eye on the numbers as they are being
rung up.
> Why people in a European museum need to get back
> to the "cover" of a museum room, I'll never know.
What if WWIII or a terrorist rampage suddenly breaks out?
>On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 07:59:05 +0000 (UTC), ph...@rahul.net (Phil
>> Whatever. I don't find it hard to retrieve a card, swipe it, replace
>> it, and poke all the buttons while the clerk is scanning my items. I'm
>> always done before s/he is, and it saves me time.
>Which means you don't keep an eye on the numbers as they are being
>rung up.
It also means you may not be bagging your items.
Steve
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!...Thanks, for the ROFLMAO.
Ciccio
>> sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay you've lost me.
Tangentially, I like the news article about the NATO truckers in Pakistan
who are blowing up their own fuel trucks, after illicitly selling off all
but a couple hundred gallons of the fuel. NATO then reimburses them for
the truck.
You warfighter types are so... intelligent! That's the word I was
looking for.
Steve
Maybe for zir object.
> >> It also means you may not be bagging your items.
>
> >BWAHAHAHAHA!!!...Thanks, for the ROFLMAO.
>
> Okay you've lost me.
Oh, you were serious? That's even funnier. Does the store, at least,
give you a discount for bagging your own groceries?
[Obama's DOD fuck up snipped]
> You warfighter types are so... intelligent! That's the word I was
> looking for.
I trust that "you" is not aimed at me and that you aren't so fucking
dumb to think "warfighter type" applies to me or mine. Unless, of
course, "warfighter" type refers to somebody who carries his own
water. Who didn't run away when his number came up, causing another
young man to take his spot. Whereby another young man didn't have his
life disrupted with a detour to a most hostile environment to endure a
most violent and most debasing existence. Then afterward thanking God,
for his not having suffered a worse fate. Is that what you mean by
"warfighter type"?
Ciccio
It's simple. Lack of awareness of one's surroundings.
Children and half of all adults suffer from this. It's why
half of all adults operate at the sophistication and agility
of a feeder cow.
When you combine these adults with children, it creates
the nearly unbearable situation that you see at Costco.
>On Oct 9, 1:36 pm, spop...@speedymail.org (Steve Pope) wrote:
>> You warfighter types are so... intelligent! That's the word I was
>> looking for.
>I trust that "you" is not aimed at me and that you aren't so fucking
>dumb to think "warfighter type" applies to me or mine.
Of course you are. You suppored Geo. Bush going into Afghanistan.
I did not. You rah-rah-ralley in favor of the loser U.S. Marines;
I want to kick them out. You're on very thin ground here dude.
You are causative of NATO-trucker-bombers. I have nothing to do
with them.
S.
So what? Who bags their items unless they are using a self-checkout line
like they have at Lucky and or the Home Depot?
- Peter
Huh? Ciccio on very thin ground here??? Where's here?
Talk about a bizarro statement. This one probably takes the cake.
- Peter
How can one bag their own items at a department store when one doesn't even
have access to the department store bags?
- Peter
You don't bring your own bags when shopping?
That so carbonist of you.
S.
Not when I'm shopping for kitchen appliances at a department store. Most
wouldn't fit any of the reusable bags I own.
- Peter
>> Ciccio<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
Sure, give him a free pass.
You ARE aware there were people who were opposed to the Afghanistan
war, the Iraq war from the very beginning, as opposed to supporting
it all until Obama came along and then starting whingning? (Or is
that whining? What is the distinction anyway?)
Steve
Lack of awareness is why they don't notice they're impeding others
and modify their behavior accordingly. However, it's not a reason
for the original inclination to congregate in particular ways.
> Of course you are. You suppored Geo. Bush going into Afghanistan.
> I did not. You rah-rah-ralley in favor of the loser U.S. Marines;
> I want to kick them out.
> You are causative of NATO-trucker-bombers. I have nothing to do
> with them.
Man, I thought you were a weirdo bagging your own groceries. Now, you
demonstrate you're not only a weirdo but a nutcase who believes in
magic thinking. As if my thoughts could cause the invasion of
Afghanistan and trucker bombers. Oh, and not only are you a weirdo
nutcase, but you are wrong. I did and do believe that putting boots on
the ground in Afghanistan as being wrong.
You fuckin' A, I support the troops, win, lose, or draw. Their
volunteering means that young people who don't want to serve in the
military won't be abducted by the government and forced to do so. If
you can't support that, then you're even more fucked up than I
thought.
BTW, Bush is history. Obama has been the one responsible for the
deaths and the serious injuries of Americans in Afghanistan for quite
some time.
> You're on very thin ground here dude.
No duuuuuuude, I am on super solid ground.
Ciccio
>Man, I thought you were a weirdo bagging your own groceries. Now, you
>demonstrate you're not only a weirdo but a nutcase who believes in
>magic thinking. As if my thoughts could cause the invasion of
>Afghanistan and trucker bombers.
Well, yes actually, you and the vast majority of Americans, including
all of Congress except my representative Barbara Lee, caused the
invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent truck-bomber/profiteers.
>nutcase, but you are wrong. I did and do believe that putting boots on
>the ground in Afghanistan as being wrong.
Too bad your elected representative out there in P-town (who was it?
Pombo?) didn't think so.
>You fuckin' A, I support the troops, win, lose, or draw. Their
>volunteering means that young people who don't want to serve in the
>military won't be abducted by the government and forced to do so. If
>you can't support that, then you're even more fucked up than I
>thought.
>
>BTW, Bush is history. Obama has been the one responsible for the
>deaths and the serious injuries of Americans in Afghanistan for quite
>some time.
Shift the blame. Typical Rambo-Pombo-Cheerleader.
You remember Pat Tillman? He thought it was Cool to fight in a war.
Problem is, war is hell, and you and your generation have somehow
seem to have forgotten that.
S.
> Well, yes actually, you and the vast majority of Americans, including
> all of Congress except my representative Barbara Lee, caused the
> invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent truck-bomber/profiteers.
Jeez, you really are whacked out with magic thinking. Fact is I wasn't
for it, no matter how many times you assert otherwise.
> Too bad your elected representative out there in P-town (who was it?
> Pombo?) didn't think so.
I don't reside in P-Town and Pombo was never my
representative...Again, you show you're talking out of your ass.
> Shift the blame. Typical Rambo-Pombo-Cheerleader.
Oh, there is more than enough blame to go around. Just like Nam, LBJ
and Nixon...Afghanistan, Bush and Obama...Again, Democrats and
Republicans are shown to be the two sides of the same corrupt coin.
> You remember Pat Tillman? He thought it was Cool to fight in a war.
> Problem is, war is hell, and you and your generation have somehow
> seem to have forgotten that.
Oh, like you ever served and even have a clue about war. You must have
consumed so many drugs tonight that you can't even read. Tomorrow when
you come down, read what I wrote again. You'll see I emphatically
stated the opposite of what you, in your usual Berserkeley tactic of
misinformation, are trying to lamely attribute to me. Peter is right,
you really are writing bizarro
bullshit.
Ciccio
> >Huh? Ciccio on very thin ground here??? Where's here?
> >Talk about a bizarro statement. This one probably takes the cake.
> Sure, give him a free pass.
Free pass??? Peter thought your prior statement was bizarro...You just
surpassed yourself.
Ciccio