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tangxiaodi

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Dec 15, 2005, 5:03:18 AM12/15/05
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Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
what about Long Life noodle club? what happend to them as well?

tangxiaodi

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Dec 15, 2005, 5:03:22 AM12/15/05
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tangxiaodi

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Eric Ferguson

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Dec 15, 2005, 11:25:35 AM12/15/05
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There's still one in Pleasant Hill. Never have eaten there. Others who have
said it was too spicy and too salty for them.As to the Long Life noodle
club, never heard of it.


Joanna Tsang Ramberg

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Dec 15, 2005, 12:47:10 PM12/15/05
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To my knowledge, there is still a Long Life Noodle at the Metreon
in SF. But it wouldn't surprise me if it closed in other areas of the
Bay Area. (I think the only reason it stayed opened is b/c of the
theater and convention crowds.)

Cheers,
Joanna

tangxiaodi wrote:
>
> Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
> what about Long Life noodle club? what happend to them as well?

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Mean Green Dancing Machine

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Dec 15, 2005, 12:48:07 PM12/15/05
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In article <43A1ABE1...@Idontexist.com>,

Joanna Tsang Ramberg <jram...@Idontexist.com> wrote:
>
>To my knowledge, there is still a Long Life Noodle at the Metreon
>in SF. But it wouldn't surprise me if it closed in other areas of the
>Bay Area. (I think the only reason it stayed opened is b/c of the
>theater and convention crowds.)

There's one in Stanford shopping center.

BTW, is there some reason you're top-posting?
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cho...@socal.rr.com

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Dec 15, 2005, 1:17:18 PM12/15/05
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tangxiaodi wrote:
> Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
> what about Long Life noodle club? what happend to them as well?

Hell, whatever happened to Yan? (He used to have a TV show, sort of
like
Emeril, but Chinese....)

Peter Lawrence

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Dec 15, 2005, 1:47:55 PM12/15/05
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He still does. His new show is called: Martin Yan Quick & Easy. It
airs on Saturday mornings on Channel 9.

- Peter

ll

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Dec 15, 2005, 1:50:05 PM12/15/05
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ef wrote:
> There's still one in Pleasant Hill. Never have eaten there.
> Others who have said it was too spicy and too salty for them.

I've eaten there. I didn't find it too spicy or salty.
Nothing particularly wrong with it, just not special.


ch wrote;


> whatever happened to Yan? (He used to have a TV show

Still on PBS. Every weekend, and possibly some week nights.
There are several different shows. We like them all,
but we really like the one where he visits different
cities in Asia.

Many of the well known chefs are only on PBS, not on FoodTV.

Max Hauser

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Dec 15, 2005, 3:07:41 PM12/15/05
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<cho...@socal.rr.com> in
news:1134670638....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

>
> Hell, whatever happened to Yan?

He's alive and well and shows up locally. (He was dining at Alexander's
Steakhouse in Cupertino not long ago for instance. One of the meals I
reported here.)


Dan Abel

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Dec 15, 2005, 4:45:32 PM12/15/05
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In article <1134670638....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
cho...@socal.rr.com wrote:


> Hell, whatever happened to Yan? (He used to have a TV show, sort of
> like
> Emeril, but Chinese....)

I'm trying to get my head around this one. What's the difference? I
can't figure it out. I just know that I liked to watch the Martin Yan
show, and I just can't stand Emeril.

Maybe it is just age. People get weird as they get old. Maybe I've
just lost it. I was much younger when I watched Martin Yan. Now Emeril
is on way too often.

--
Dan Abel
da...@sonic.net
Petaluma, California, USA

Al Eisner

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Dec 15, 2005, 7:03:38 PM12/15/05
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, tangxiaodi wrote:

> Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?

Their web site lists three of them, and says more are coming. Have you
been somewhere where one closed?

> what about Long Life noodle club? what happend to them as well?

There's a Long Life Noodle at the Stanford Shopping Center. It doesn't
seem like the sort of place to have a "club", but who knows.
--

Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA

Jon Nadelberg

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Dec 15, 2005, 10:03:55 PM12/15/05
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Al Eisner wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, tangxiaodi wrote:
>
>
>>Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
>
>
> Their web site lists three of them, and says more are coming. Have you
> been somewhere where one closed?
>

One was being built in San Mateo, but work stopped and it never opened.

Steve Pope

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Dec 15, 2005, 10:50:21 PM12/15/05
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Jon Nadelberg <ne...@nadelberg.com> wrote:

>Al Eisner wrote:

>> Their web site lists three of them, and says more are coming. Have you
>> been somewhere where one closed?

>One was being built in San Mateo, but work stopped and it never opened.

I believe the one in El Cerrito Plaza is now gone.

S.


Joanna Tsang Ramberg

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Dec 15, 2005, 11:45:53 PM12/15/05
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Mean Green Dancing Machine wrote:
>
> In article <43A1ABE1...@Idontexist.com>,
> Joanna Tsang Ramberg <jram...@Idontexist.com> wrote:
> >
> >To my knowledge, there is still a Long Life Noodle at the Metreon
> >in SF. But it wouldn't surprise me if it closed in other areas of the
> >Bay Area. (I think the only reason it stayed opened is b/c of the
> >theater and convention crowds.)
>
> There's one in Stanford shopping center.
>
> BTW, is there some reason you're top-posting?

No reason... Why? Did I miss some sort of an posting etiquette rule?
(Switching to bottom in case I am...)

Cheers,
Joanna

Chester

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Dec 16, 2005, 12:33:39 PM12/16/05
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:45:53 GMT, Joanna Tsang Ramberg
<jram...@Idontexist.com> wrote:

>> BTW, is there some reason you're top-posting?
>
>No reason... Why? Did I miss some sort of an posting etiquette rule?
>(Switching to bottom in case I am...)

Yeah. Every once in a while, people get chided for it. It's been a
while.

I remember a really apocalyptic thread about it a while back. I used
to be insanely militant about it, but now with bandwidth so much
wider, I've given it up.

Still irks me when I see someone posting atop a *long* message, but
when someone posts atop a short one (like you did, Joanna), I don't
think annoyance even passes through my mind these days.

Anyway: general etiquette, for those who care, is that one posts below
quoted text. An important corollary to this rule is that one prunes
quoted text to provide only the necessary context.

Chester

Chester

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Dec 16, 2005, 12:39:38 PM12/16/05
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On 15 Dec 2005 02:03:25 -0800, "tangxiaodi" <tangx...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
>what about Long Life noodle club? what happend to them as well?

As others have said, Long Life is still around. Didn't know they had
any affiliation with Martin Yan, though.

As far as I know, there's still a "Yan Can" [1] in Santa Clara, in the
Rivermark development. I don't care for the food at all and think it
presents a poor value.

I remember that he was supposedly going to do a high-end thing at
Santana Row and seem to remember seeing this being trumpeted on a
construction wall there, but they're all built out now and he doesn't
have a restaurant there. I think that it was the space that has become
Sino, so maybe he has something to do with it still, though I can't
imagine why Chris Yeo of Straits would want Martin Yan on board for
restaurant advice or even name recognition.

Finally, as a side-note, Yan came up in conversation a little while
back and my father says that he doesn't have much of a Chinese accent
when speaking English away from the cameras.

Chester

[1] He should call them "Yan Cantinas", I think.

Mark Mellin

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Dec 16, 2005, 1:20:25 PM12/16/05
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In article
<Pine.GSO.4.58.05...@flora02.slac.stanford.edu>,

Al Eisner wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, tangxiaodi wrote:
>
> > Have not seen Yan Can restaurants anymore? what happend?
>
> Their web site lists three of them, and says more are coming. Have you
> been somewhere where one closed?

The one planned for San Mateo's Park Place either never materialized
or came and went so fast that I missed it ever being open.

In other news of empty San Mateo restaurant space, this item appeared
in the SFExaminer back in September:

from
<http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/09/07/news/20050907_pe01_transit.txt>

"The city is still in negotiations to bring a franchise of
The Melting Pot restaurant to the 3,000-square-foot north
building of the [downtown San Mateo] transit center. Beyer
said he hopes to bring a lease to the City Council for approval
in October. The Melting Pot, a fondue chain, has about 70
restaurants nationwide, according to its Web site."

A recent visit didn't show any signs of progress, save for a
FOR LEASE sign on the windows.

- Mark

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Tim May

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Dec 16, 2005, 2:06:03 PM12/16/05
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In article <markmellin-0D4A0...@news.supernews.com>, Mark
Mellin <markm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The one planned for San Mateo's Park Place either never materialized
> or came and went so fast that I missed it ever being open.
>
> In other news of empty San Mateo restaurant space, this item appeared
> in the SFExaminer back in September:
>
> from
> <http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/09/07/news/20050907_pe01_transit.txt>
>
> "The city is still in negotiations to bring a franchise of
> The Melting Pot restaurant to the 3,000-square-foot north
> building of the [downtown San Mateo] transit center. Beyer
> said he hopes to bring a lease to the City Council for approval
> in October. The Melting Pot, a fondue chain, has about 70
> restaurants nationwide, according to its Web site."
>
> A recent visit didn't show any signs of progress, save for a
> FOR LEASE sign on the windows.


Maybe due to the whip-saw effects of the Atkins Diet craze
ups-and-downs.

"Fondue...nothing but good, greasy, protein-laden cheese...skip the
bread and use Teriyaki Jerky sticks instead! Double your protein high!

Whoops.

(My brother in LA told me the fast food places there are no longer
offering the "two giant meat patties, wrapped in lettuce" as they did
during the final months of the Atkins Hysteria.)


--Tim May

Max Hauser

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Dec 16, 2005, 4:09:55 PM12/16/05
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I think this is worth spending a moment on, because the subject and its
context are often misrepresented (however unintentionally).

"Chester" <cheste...@gmail.com> in
news:kbu5q11c2u28mh8vu...@4ax.com...


> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:45:53 GMT, Joanna Tsang Ramberg
> <jram...@Idontexist.com> wrote:
>
>>> BTW, is there some reason you're top-posting?
>>
>>No reason... Why? Did I miss some sort of an posting
>> etiquette rule? (Switching to bottom in case I am...)
>
> Yeah. Every once in a while, people get chided for it.

> . . .


> Anyway: general etiquette, for those who care, is that one posts below
> quoted text.


-- Since about 2000, that is, and the particular generation of news reader
software that elevated this issue and got under some people's skin.* You
can even check (if you are unusually patient and open-minded) and learn that
this etiquette mostly concerns relatively recent (few-year) rather than
longtime posters, though with exceptions. (Further history reprised below,
whose upshot is that the issue did not exist for the first 20 years of
newsgroup history but surfaced only in the last five, among populations and
software active in this interval.)

> An important corollary to this rule is that one prunes quoted text to
> provide only the necessary context.

That principle is very important and goes deep, appearing not just in
RFC1855 (published 1995, and which anyone seeing this has presumably read,
or can easily read, being as it's roughly the Strunk and White of online
fora, cited by almost every related tutorial ever written) but long before
that, in standard net-etiquette guidelines posted publicly from 1982, which
evolved to RFC1855. The principle appears separately in multiple parts of
RFC1855 (such as 2.1.1, 3.1.1., and 3.1.3). As a further note of possible
net-historical interest, some people in the last few years have tried to
read anti- "top posting" advice into RFC1855 retroactively. Though this is
partly absurd given that RFC1855 predated the "top posting" concern by about
five years,* the granule of truth in it is worth amplifying. 3.1.1 pph 10
proposes constructively (not proscriptively like the anti- "top posting"
admonitions) that people should summarize past-posting context at the
beginning of a reply. To fully "get" that pph though (in the way that the
rhetorical exploitation of it does not), you must appreciate the variable
transit times that plagued newsgroup postings for the 15 years preceding
RFC1855. Simultaneous postings routinely arrived hours, or days, apart (the
familiar "time warp," which slowly faded). Thus people would often see
replies before the originals, and others would not understand what someone
replied to. The RFC1855 paragraph itself summarizes its point: "Giving
context helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"

Apart from all this background, some people lately don't like "top posting"
and will complain. According to RFC1855 (and also in my opinion) the more
serious issue is when postings omit needed context or (more often today)
stupidly include huge past articles intact to add a few lines of reply.
Here I mean the ancient sense of stupid, as in stupor, or daze.

Hope this helps! -- Max


"Content of a follow-up post should exceed quoted content." -- RFC1855

--------
*Re-posted from some time ago on rec.food.cooking (words are mine):

(This article is not an example of that but of embedded quotation, one of
several venerable formats preceding that issue.) . . . Prior to late 1999,
most references to "top post" in the Google archive have unrelated meaning,
such as the top post of the week.


Tim May

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Dec 16, 2005, 4:17:17 PM12/16/05
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I agree.


In article <11q6b95...@corp.supernews.com>, Max Hauser

Max Hauser

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Dec 16, 2005, 4:35:07 PM12/16/05
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I should have included this link, to the original verion of RFC1855
(including headers, unlike a cuter typeset version that appeared later).

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/rfc/rfc1855.html


Mark Mellin

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Dec 21, 2005, 12:48:13 PM12/21/05
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In article <161220051106030864%tim...@removethis.got.net>, Tim May wrote:

> Mark Mellin wrote:
> >
> > In other news of empty San Mateo restaurant space, this item appeared
> > in the SFExaminer back in September:
> >
> > from
> > <http://www.sfexaminer.com/articles/2005/09/07/news/20050907_pe01_transit.txt>
> >
> > "The city is still in negotiations to bring a franchise of
> > The Melting Pot restaurant to the 3,000-square-foot north
> > building of the [downtown San Mateo] transit center.
> >
> > [ snip ]
> >
> > A recent visit didn't show any signs of progress, save for a
> > FOR LEASE sign on the windows.
>
> Maybe due to the whip-saw effects of the Atkins Diet craze
> ups-and-downs.
>
> "Fondue...nothing but good, greasy, protein-laden cheese...skip the
> bread and use Teriyaki Jerky sticks instead! Double your protein high!
>
> Whoops.

Well, it may not be a total loss, food-wise, if another restaurant
someday leases the space. Here are some recent comments from the SF
Chronicle on their Larkspur Landing branch:

Melting Pot offers fun twist on dining experience
Amanda Gold, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, December 16, 2005

"I remember taking a seventh-grade field trip to a New York City
fondue restaurant, where my French teacher lectured our class on
the experience we were about to have. She explained that people
don't go out to fondue restaurants just for the food, but more for
the company, the action and the surroundings.

"After three visits to the Melting Pot in Larkspur, a local franchise
of a national chain, I agree on one thing for sure -- people go for
the experience over the food.

continued at:
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/16/NBGGNG76MO1.DTL>

Steve Fenwick

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Dec 22, 2005, 1:28:34 AM12/22/05
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In article <markmellin-1E471...@news.supernews.com>,
Mark Mellin <markm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Well, it may not be a total loss, food-wise, if another restaurant
> someday leases the space. Here are some recent comments from the SF
> Chronicle on their Larkspur Landing branch:
>
> Melting Pot offers fun twist on dining experience
> Amanda Gold, Chronicle Staff Writer
> Friday, December 16, 2005
>
> "I remember taking a seventh-grade field trip to a New York City
> fondue restaurant, where my French teacher lectured our class on
> the experience we were about to have. She explained that people
> don't go out to fondue restaurants just for the food, but more for
> the company, the action and the surroundings.
>
> "After three visits to the Melting Pot in Larkspur, a local franchise
> of a national chain, I agree on one thing for sure -- people go for
> the experience over the food.
>
> continued at:
> <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/16/NBGGNG76MO1.DTL>

Hmm...fondue on induction? No flames? Where's the fun there?

Many of the comments about the food suggest that, food-wise, it's not
one's best bet. It's an "experience"/group-party place, and one best
done on an expense account. At an average take of about $50 per head,
there are probably a lot of places that offer as good an "experience"
along with better food.

But please, someone with an expense account, go check this out :)

Steve

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