Re: Green lip mussels Re: Scallops
Ostap Bender
> On Jul 18, 8:23 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > An update to my previous post:
>
> > I finally got around to looking them up at Ranch 99 a couple of weeks
> > ago. They are called "Live green mussles from New Zealand". They sell
> > for $3.99. They lok exactly like this:
>
> >http://chefx.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mussels-green1.jpg
>
> >http://www.joelwilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MG_0415.jpg
>
> > So, I bet they are indeed Green Lip.
>
> > Look, Sqwertz, I know that you hate live greenlip mussels, preferring
> > frozen. But you can always freeze them, then defrost them a few years
> > later - and voila! - you got yourself a meal!
>
> > I, on the other hand, will stick with steaming them live.
>
> So you can find live green lips at 99 Ranch? Is that Emeryville?
> I'll look in the Daly City store this week.
Frank, I shop at Ranch 99 in San Jose on Wolfe Rd. I saw them a couple
of weeks ago, but I haven't bought any mussles for 2 or 3 months.
Summer is not a good time to eat fresh/live mussels. Wait til
September-October.
Yesterday, the live lobsters sold for $7.99 at Ranch 99, but I suspect
that their shells are soft, meaning you don't get much meat inside.
Does anybody know in what months the lobster shells are at their
firmest?
> I've tried frozen green
> lips twice and they were vile... inedible in fact. Not subjecting
> myself to frozen again, but I'll give live green lips one last chance
> and see how I like them.
Well, I had bought the live ones at Ranch 99 at least 10 times in the
last 3 years. I cook them in either wine or in a Thai curry. They
tasted very good to me.
> Frankly, I like the common black ones. They
> are always fresh and sweet.
For some reason, I settled on the green ones long time ago and don't
even remember how the black ones taste. But the people at RFC seem to
imply that the green ones are better.
Ostap Bender
wrote:
> On Jul 18, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 8:23 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > An update to my previous post:
>
> > > I finally got around to looking them up at Ranch 99 a couple of weeks
> > > ago. They are called "Live green mussles from New Zealand". They sell
> > > for $3.99. They lok exactly like this:
>
> > >http://chefx.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mussels-green1.jpg
>
> > >http://www.joelwilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MG_0415.jpg
>
> > > So, I bet they are indeed Green Lip.
>
> > > Look, Sqwertz, I know that you hate live greenlip mussels, preferring
> > > frozen. But you can always freeze them, then defrost them a few years
> > > later - and voila! - you got yourself a meal!
>
> > > I, on the other hand, will stick with steaming them live.
>
> > So you can find live green lips at 99 Ranch? Is that Emeryville?
> > I'll look in the Daly City store this week.
>
> Frank,
Why did I call you Frank?
> I shop at Ranch 99 in San Jose on Wolfe Rd. I saw them a couple
> of weeks ago, but I haven't bought any mussles for 2 or 3 months.
> Summer is not a good time to eat fresh/live mussels. Wait til
> September-October.
>
> Yesterday, the live lobsters sold for $7.99 at Ranch 99, but I suspect
> that their shells are soft, meaning you don't get much meat inside.
> Does anybody know in what months the lobster shells are at their
> firmest?
>
> > I've tried frozen green
> > lips twice and they were vile... inedible in fact.
I can second that. Ranch 99 sells them frozen as well. I bought them
once. They were disgusting, both flavorwise and texturewise. Never
again!
But live ones are nothing like that.
> > Not subjecting
> > myself to frozen again, but I'll give live green lips one last chance
> > and see how I like them.
>
> Well, I had bought the live ones at Ranch 99 at least 10 times in the
> last 3 years. I cook them in either wine
plus garlic, butter and parsley
Bob Terwilliger
>> Frank,
>
> Why did I call you Frank?
Maybe you felt you were addressing Saint Francis himself?
Bob
evergene
>Why did I call you Frank?
Perhaps for the same reason you crossposted the question to two
newsgroups -- you just weren't thinking.
The best West Coast mussels I've had came from Taylor,
http://www.taylorshellfishfarms.com/, available in the Bay Area only
by mail order, as far as I know. Mussels from the Pt. Reyes Oyster
Company, available at the Alemany Farmers Market, are good but not as
good as those from Taylor. And no green lips on either.
sf
<ostap_be...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> But the people at RFC seem to imply that the green ones are better.
Really? Since when?
--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
sf
<ostap_be...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Why did I call you Frank?
I read it twice and then decided you left off the -ly. :)
Kent
"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
>
>> Frank, I shop at Ranch 99 in San Jose on Wolfe Rd.
>
> San Jose. Not even close to San Jose. It's closer to Santa
> Clara and Sunnyvale than to San Jose.
>
> And the name of the store is "99 Ranch Market", not "Ranch 99".
>
> How can you be a mussel critic if you don't even know what city
> you're in OR the name of the market where you claim to shop?
>
> -sw (shopper of that store no less than 150 times)
>
>
It began as "Ranch 99".
Kent
"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:29 -0700, Kent wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:x9eudg2d6egw$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>
>>>
>
> that out of your (*)
>
> Everybody has just been mistakenly calling it "Ranch 99" for
> years. This is why I proposed "99 Ranch 99" over a decade ago in
> ba.food and it stuck (somewhat). You just haven't been paying
> attention, as usual.
>
> It was originally called "99 Price Market", but that led to
> confusion with the 99 Cent stores.
>
> -sw
>
>
"It was never called 99 Ranch."??????????????????
Kent
"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:53:29 -0700, Kent wrote:
>
>> news:x9eudg2d6egw$.dlg@sqwertz.com...
>>
>>>
>
> that out of your (*)
>
> Everybody has just been mistakenly calling it "Ranch 99" for
> years. This is why I proposed "99 Ranch 99" over a decade ago in
> ba.food and it stuck (somewhat). You just haven't been paying
> attention, as usual.
>
> It was originally called "99 Price Market", but that led to
> confusion with the 99 Cent stores.
>
> -sw
>
>
sf
Everybody knew what you were talking about. He makes mountains out
of molehills so he can feel superior.
Kent
"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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correct at all times. I was trying to help him. He doesn't want to be
incorrect the next time this question arises. This is especially true when
there has been significant alcohol intake.
Ostap Bender
> Steve, the diagnosed narcissist according to Dr. Kent Hagen, wrote:
>
> > the name of the store is "99 Ranch Market", not "Ranch 99".
>
> up and down quickly and out came:
>
> > People with extreme cerebral constipation coupled with fragile egos must be
> > correct at all times. I was trying to help him. He doesn't want to be
> > incorrect the next time this question arises. This is especially true when
> > there has been significant alcohol intake.
>
> *you* that's wrong, dontcha? No matter how much babbling you do.
>
> Anybody want to side with Kent that the name of the market is or ever
> was "Ranch 99 [Market]"?
Easily:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Ranch_Market
99 Ranch Market, also called Tawa Supermarket or, casually, "Ranch
99", is an Asian American supermarket chain based in Buena Park,
California.
http://journalism.berkeley.edu/projects/drink/ranch.html
Indeed, the selection at Ranch 99 is vast.
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For 105,000 more links, see:
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ranch+99%22
Ostap Bender
wrote:
Neh. I live in the San Mateo county, so I am more in tune with St.
Mathew.
Ostap Bender
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:46:37 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender
>
> > Why did I call you Frank?
>
> I read it twice and then decided you left off the -ly. :)
To be frank: maybe. Harry S Truman said: "Always be sincere/frank,
even if you don't mean it."
Ostap Bender
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > Frank, I shop at Ranch 99 in San Jose on Wolfe Rd.
>
> Even *I* know the store you're referring to is in Cupertino, not
> San Jose. Not even close to San Jose.
Ranch 99, which is on the corner of Homestead and Wolfe, is 1.5 miles
from the corner of Lawrence and Stevens Creek, which is in San Jose.
Is 1.5 miles worth arguing about?
> It's closer to Santa
> Clara and Sunnyvale than to San Jose.
Whatever. I was referring to "San Jose" informally to mean "San Jose
area", as can be seen on the maps:
http://www.aaroads.com/california/images/san_jose_map.gif
http://www.aaroads.com/california/us-101si_ca.html
San Jose is the third largest city in the state of California
The only reason why I go there is because we play soccer twice a week
in San Jose, and I shop at Ranch 99 and other Chinese, Korean, Indian
and Japanese stores on my drive home from San Jose to Redwood City.
> And the name of the store is "99 Ranch Market", not "Ranch 99".
Well, I was being a bit informal here, forgetting that I am addressing
a moron with reading comprehension like you.:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Ranch_Market
99 Ranch Market, also called Tawa Supermarket or, casually, "Ranch
99", is an Asian American supermarket chain based in Buena Park,
California.
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> How can you be a mussel critic if you don't even know what city
> you're in
I do know what city I am in: Emerald Hills/Redwood City. It's in San
Mateo county.
And even if I didn't know what city I am in, how does that effect my
taste buds? Are you saying that if you are at a restaurant and don't
know what county it is in, you can't decide if you like the food or
not?
> OR the name of the market where you claim to shop?
> Everybody has just been mistakenly calling it "Ranch 99"
> for years.
So, everybody is incapable of being a mussel critic?! Only you are?
> -sw (shopper of that store no less than 150 times)
And in all those 150 times, you never noticed live green New Zealand
mussels?
On Jul 19, 8:56 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > An update to my previous post:
>
> > On May 17 I wrote:
>
> > ------------------
> > On May 16, 7:51*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 16 May 2010 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> >>> On May 16, 6:25*am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 16 May 2010 02:57:02 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> >>>>> Moreover, in your article, "Anthony Gradiska" compares frozen mussels
> >>>>> with "fresh" mussels. Something tells me that "fresh" means "dead".
>
> >>>> Well, of course! *All chefs confuse fresh and dead with alive and
> >>>> kicking. *After all, they're pretty much downright stupid.
>
> >>> No. Only YOU do. Anthony Gradiska specifically said "fresh" not
> >>> "live". There is a difference. Trust me.
>
> >> If you're going to assume is an idiot, then I'll treat you the same.
>
> > I wish I knew what you said here.
>
> >>> However, I regularly buy live mussels here in USA, and I have never
> >>> gone sick. I did have some bad experience with previously frozen
> >>> seafood though.
>
> >> You eat raw mussels?
>
> > No. As I said many times, I buy live mussels and steam them.
>
> >> I didn't think so. *Eating raw mussels, even as sushi, is pretty
> >> much unheard of.
>
> >> All this talk of mussels, I went out earlier and got a 2-lb box of
> >> greenlips. *I thawed a few and ate them partially cooked, and
> >> they're as good as always. *Fresh black mussels (that means *live*
> >> when you're talking about mussels) were $3/lb shell-on and all the
> >> waste. *Greenlips were $4/lb on the halfshell, with only 15% waste.
>
> > Good for you. Next Tuesday, I will go to Ranch 99 supermarket, buy
> > live greenlip mussels for $3.99, and steam them in wine/broth.
>
> > Both of us seem to be happy with our respective notions of what
> > freshness is all about.
> > ---------------------
>
> > I finally got around to looking them up at Ranch 99 a couple of weeks
> > ago. They are called "Live green mussles from New Zealand". They sell
> > for $3.99. They lok exactly like this:
>
> >http://chefx.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mussels-green1.jpg
>
> >http://www.joelwilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MG_0415.jpg
>
> > So, I bet they are indeed Green Lip.
>
> > Look, Sqwertz, I know that you hate live greenlip mussels, preferring
> > frozen. But you can always freeze them, then defrost them a few years
> > later - and voila! - you got yourself a meal!
>
> > I, on the other hand, will stick with steaming them live.
>
> So you didn't try any...Fresh or frozen.
How did you deduce this idiocy? What I wrote was this:
> On Jul 19, 12:41 am, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
>
> > Well, I had bought the live ones at Ranch 99 at least 10 times in the
> > last 3 years. I cook them in either wine [plus garlic, butter
> > and parsley] or in a Thai curry. They tasted very good to me.
Can't you read? I have had them at least 10 times in the last 3 years
alone. Actually, the number is probably more than 20.
> And I never said I hate
> fresh mussels. I said I don't like the blue/black mussels.
It's impossible to tell what you said, because you are so ashamed of
your posts that you request that they not be archived. As I recall,
what you claimed was that live New Zealand greenlips are not sold in
USA in general and at Ranch 99 in particular. And you were wrong. And
you have gone hysterical because you can't stand to be corrected. You
have a severe inferiority complex problem.
Another thing that I recall you claiming is that when cooked, frozen
greenlips taste as good as the live ones. And that sounds ridiculous
to me.
> So what was the point of this post, then?
To tell the readers that they can buy live green lip mussels at Ranch
99, of course.
>You wanted to twist my
> words around and state a completely different version of the
> argument we had, with no added information so you could feed your
> ego?
> Knock yourselt out - pat yourself on the back.
>
> Matter of fact, I'm off to the market now to buy some greenlips to
> smoke this afternoon.
Are you talking about live or frozen ones?
> I still haven't eaten solid food for 10
> days, but this may be the first.
Is this your best excuse for behaving like a total jerk?
On Jul 19, 7:32 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:01:06 -0700, Kent wrote:
> > "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> >news:1u8udkra...@sqwertz.com...
>
> >> Everybody has just been mistakenly calling it "Ranch 99" for
> >> years. This is why I proposed "99 Ranch 99" over a decade ago in
> >> ba.food and it stuck (somewhat). You just haven't been paying
> >> attention, as usual.
>
> > Look at:http://www.poifriend.com/poigroup.php?poigroup_id=7419
>
> Wow, imagine that. Somebody else called it Ranch 99.
>
> IT WAS NEVER CALLED RANCH 99. People called it that, sure. But
> the company was never called Ranch 99. Period. Deal with it -
> take some medication if you have to.
It is you who needs very strong medication. You are a hysterical
psychopath, making Mount Everest out of a tiny and trivial molehill.
Ostap Bender
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Ranch_Market
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > An update to my previous post:
>
> > I finally got around to looking them up at Ranch 99 a couple of weeks
> > ago. They are called "Live green mussles from New Zealand". They sell
> > for $3.99. They lok exactly like this:
>
> >http://chefx.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/mussels-green1.jpg
>
> >http://www.joelwilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/MG_0415.jpg
>
> > So, I bet they are indeed Green Lip.
>
> > Look, Sqwertz, I know that you hate live greenlip mussels, preferring
> > frozen. But you can always freeze them, then defrost them a few years
> > later - and voila! - you got yourself a meal!
>
> > I, on the other hand, will stick with steaming them live.
>
> So you didn't try any...Fresh or frozen.
How did you deduce this idiocy? What I wrote was this:
> On Jul 19, 12:41 am, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
>
> > Well, I had bought the live ones at Ranch 99 at least 10 times in the
Peter Lawrence
>
> I do know what city I am in: Emerald Hills/Redwood City. It's in San
> Mateo county.
Do you? There's no such city called Emerald Hills/Redwood City. I think
you just mean Redwood City. Correct?
- Peter
Ostap Bender
I don't know why you need to know exactly where I live (I didn't
invite you for dinner at my place yet, have I?) but there are web
sites called "Google search", "Yahoo search", "Wikipedia" etc, where
you can look up something before making an idiot of yourself by
claiming that something doesn't exist:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Lake_Hills,_California
Emerald Lake Hills is a census-designated place and neighborhood in
unincorporated San Mateo County, in the state of California, USA.
Situated among oak-studded hills between Woodside, Redwood City, and
San Carlos roughly bounded by Edgewood Road, Alameda de las Pulgas,
Farm Hill Boulevard, and Interstate 280. The population was 3,899 at
the 2000 census and the per-capita income was $68,966[1], making it
the 22nd wealthiest place in California and the 82nd wealthiest place
(with a population over 1,000) in the United States
Emerald Lake Hills was originally conceived as a resort community
for city-weary San Franciscans during World War I. Emerald Lake Hills
actually consists of two large subdivisions created around 1920:
Emerald Lake (even though there are two lakes) and Emerald Hills.
Residents refer to the area by either Emerald Hills or by Emerald Lake
Hills. The name Emerald Hills is now more commonly adopted due to
mailing designation rules, as the U. S. Post Office would allow only a
two-word name.
Education
Residents are zoned to primary schools in the Redwood City School
District and secondary schools in the Sequoia Union High School
District [1].
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Mark Thorson
>
> Anybody want to side with Kent that the name of the market is or ever
> was "Ranch 99 [Market]"?
Doesn't Sarah Palin call it Ranch 99?
Peter Lawrence
> On Jul 20, 1:09 am, Peter Lawrence<hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On 7/20/10 12:42 AM, Ostap Bender wrote:
>>>
>>> I do know what city I am in: Emerald Hills/Redwood City. It's in San
>>> Mateo county.
>>
>> Do you? There's no such city called Emerald Hills/Redwood City. I think
>> you just mean Redwood City. Correct?
>
> I don't know why you need to know exactly where I live (I didn't
> invite you for dinner at my place yet, have I?) but there are web
> sites called "Google search", "Yahoo search", "Wikipedia" etc, where
> you can look up something before making an idiot of yourself by
> claiming that something doesn't exist:
I wasn't asking exactly where you lived, but that I never heard anyone state
that they lived in Emerald Hill/Redwood City before. It would be like
someone stating that they lived in Ladera/Portala Valley. Each are distinct
communities.
If you had stated that you lived in Redwood City, or near Redwood City, or
in Emerald Hill, etc., I wouldn't replied to your post. I just thought it
was a bit of an odd way of stating where you lived.
- Peter
sf
wrote:
> If you had stated that you lived in Redwood City, or near Redwood City, or
> in Emerald Hill, etc., I wouldn't replied to your post. I just thought it
> was a bit of an odd way of stating where you lived.
I was fine with it. I didn't know about Emerald Hill, but I knew
Redwood City - which gave me a clue.
--
Al Eisner
People seem to be getting very touchy in this thread. It must be a
widespread case of bad mussels. And all of you, don't give me any of
your (green) lip!
--
Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA
Ostap Bender
Well, given its size (fewer than 4 000 people), very few people
outside of the immediate area know about Emerald Hills. I myself
didn't know until I started looking for a house in the area.
And as far as "distinct areas" go, you can address us at "Emerald
Hills, CA 94062" or at "Redwood City, CA 94062" - either way the Post
Office will deliver. I always write "Redwood City, CA 94062"
evergene
I found a neat website called "Google Maps." Enter "Emerald Hills, CA"
in Google Maps and you get one hit, a neighborhood in San Diego.
Enter "Emerald Hill, CA" in Google Maps and you get Emerald Hills
Golfland (San Jose), Emerald Hills Golf Course (San Mateo), Emerald
Hills Apartments (Santa Cruz). Also a vineyard in Paso Robles.
If Ostap does invite you to dinner, make sure you get directions.
Ostap Bender
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:42:13 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > On Jul 19, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> >> So you didn't try any...Fresh or frozen.
>
> > How did you deduce this idiocy? What I wrote was this:
>
> >> On Jul 19, 12:41 am, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
>
> >>> Well, I had bought the live ones at Ranch 99 at least 10 times in the
> >>> last 3 years. I cook them in either wine [plus garlic, butter
> >>> and parsley] or in a Thai curry. They tasted very good to me.
>
> > Can't you read? I have had them at least 10 times in the last 3 years
> > alone. Actually, the number is probably more than 20.
>
> Nice try, lying asshole.
Here is a quote from my original post in this discussion:
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/7f0d4ac5053d534a?dmode=source
From: Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: Green lip mussels Re: Scallops
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
An update to my previous post:
On May 17 I wrote:
On May 16, 7:51*pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > On May 16, 6:25*am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 16 May 2010 02:57:02 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:>
> > However, I regularly buy live mussels here in USA, and I have never
> > gone sick. I did have some bad experience with previously frozen
> > seafood though.
>
> You eat raw mussels?
No. As I said many times, I buy live mussels and steam them.
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Which part of "I regularly buy live mussels" and "I buy live mussels
and steam them" don't you understand?
I would gladly retaliate by calling YOU "a lying asshole", but that
would be unfair, because a likelier explanation is that you are a
retarded asshole with severe reading comprehension problems.
> > It is you who needs very strong medication. You are a hysterical
> > psychopath, making Mount Everest out of a tiny and trivial molehill.
>
> You were the one who came back here in a huff after 2 months of
> dormancy, lying about what we both said,...
The reason why I "came back" in 2 months was to tell others the good
news that LIVE greenlip mussels are available (and inexpensively) here
in USA. I also wanted to disprove the false claims that you made 2
months earlier, like these ones:
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On May 16, 8:18 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> Greenlip mussels,
> the best variety of mussel and are almost always frozen
> even at the best restaurants.
and
On May 15, 10:21 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
> From: Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:21:23 -0500
> Subject: Re: Scallops
>
> Even the best chefs say there is no advantage to fresh mussels.
>
> I find it extremely hard to believe you can tell that much a
> difference when even the best chefs say there isn't any.
> Is hould note that is for greenlip mussels...
>
> -sw
and
On May 16, 8:01 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 14:42:31 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
>
> > I buy them live at my local Chinese supermarket Ranch99 for $3.99 per
> > pound.
>
> Can anybody confirm this?
>
> They are not from New Zealand at that
> price. I don't even believe you have them at 99ranch99.
> You had just said you had never seen them.
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> ... and crossposting,
Crossposting where? I posted to only one group. Here is the header of
my original post:
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http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/msg/7f0d4ac5053d534a?dmode=source
From: Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking
Subject: Green lip mussels Re: Scallops
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
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> ... just to
> get your ass kicked again.
Really? Then why is it that everybody else (except for you) agrees
with me on this point, and why did you have to write insults towards
everybody here? You are alone on this one.
> I'm just here to watch.
No, you are here for the same reason as "Brooklyn" is: to compensate
for your miserable obese stupid life by trying to show your
superiority over others. Somehow you think that just because you can't
control your eating impulses, you must be an expert on food.
Peter Lawrence
>
> And as far as "distinct areas" go, you can address us at "Emerald
> Hills, CA 94062" or at "Redwood City, CA 94062" - either way the Post
> Office will deliver. I always write "Redwood City, CA 94062"
I think the post office prefers EMERALD HILLS, CA 94062.
If you go to their Zip Code finder web page:
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp
And enter your address, with Redwood City (instead of Emerald Hills) it will
change the city name back to Emerald Hills when it displays your address
with your zip code.
:)
- Peter
Golden California Girls
Thought that was 86 in her case.
Ostap Bender
Thanks for your generous efforts. I will seriously consider writing
"Emerald Hills"instead of "Redwood City" on my return address next
time.
Are you always this dedicated to helping others with their proper home
city names or are you taking a special concern about my address?
JC Dill
> I wasn't asking exactly where you lived, but that I never heard anyone
> state that they lived in Emerald Hill/Redwood City before. It would be
> like someone stating that they lived in Ladera/Portala Valley. Each are
> distinct communities.
It's more like saying someone lives in Willow Glen/San Jose or Rose
Garden/San Jose. Emerald Hills is a neighborhood in RWC just like
Willow Glen and Rose Garden are neighborhoods in SJ.
Everyone I know who lives in Ladera DOES say it's part of Portola
Valley. (I know quite a few people who live in Ladera from my years as
a farrier shoeing horses, mostly on the peninsula from Los Gatos to
Woodside.)
jc
Peter Lawrence
Nothing in particular. I'm just a geography buff, that, and one of my first
jobs I had was working in a mail room where I developed a habit of being a
stickler in properly addressing letters and packages. (I'm someone who will
actually put the nine-digit zip codes on all the Christmas cards I mail out.)
:)
- Peter
Peter Lawrence
> Peter Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't asking exactly where you lived, but that I never heard anyone
>> state that they lived in Emerald Hill/Redwood City before. It would be
>> like someone stating that they lived in Ladera/Portala Valley. Each are
>> distinct communities.
>
> It's more like saying someone lives in Willow Glen/San Jose or Rose
> Garden/San Jose. Emerald Hills is a neighborhood in RWC just like Willow
> Glen and Rose Garden are neighborhoods in SJ.
Not quite, because Emerald Hills is an unincorporated area of San Mateo
County, like East Palo Alto was before it incorporated. It has its own
Postal Designation (Emerald Hills). Willow Glen and the Rose Garden are
actual neighborhoods inside San Jose's city limits, and don't have a unique
Postal Designation (try sending a letter addressed to Rose Garden, CA).
> Everyone I know who lives in Ladera DOES say it's part of Portola Valley. (I
> know quite a few people who live in Ladera from my years as a farrier
> shoeing horses, mostly on the peninsula from Los Gatos to Woodside.)
I guess we just know different people then. The several people I know that
live in Ladera never state that they live in Portola Valley. They always
say Ladera (and if the person they're talking to is unfamiliar with Ladera,
then they'll mention that it's next to Portola Valley).
- Peter
Al Eisner
And everyone knows where *that* is?
If I'm out of the area and am asked where I'm from, I usually just
say "San Francisco area" or "San Francisco Bay area", which is generally
all that was wanted anyway, and avoids confusion.
Peter Lawrence
The social gatherings where this type of conversion has come up has always
been in the Bay Area (in fact, it has always been on the Peninsula or in
South Bay). So the people knew, generally speaking, where Portola Valley was.
- Peter
Ciccio
> The social gatherings where this type of conversion has come up has always
> been in the Bay Area (in fact, it has always been on the Peninsula or in
> South Bay). So the people knew, generally speaking, where Portola Valley was.
I was born and raised in SF and lived in the BA my entire life. I
lived a couple of years in the So. Bay. Until now, however, I had no
idea of Portola Valley's location. I'm not sure that I've ever heard
of it before. I just looked on the map. I'm guessing I passed it or
near it many times whilst zipping along Skyline Blvd over the years.
Ciccio
_______________________
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(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
47% Approval Rating Today.
Steve Pope
>On Jul 21, 12:32 pm, Peter Lawrence <hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
>> The social gatherings where this type of conversion has come up has always
>> been in the Bay Area (in fact, it has always been on the Peninsula or in
>> South Bay). So the people knew, generally speaking, where Portola Valley was.
>I was born and raised in SF and lived in the BA my entire life. I
>lived a couple of years in the So. Bay. Until now, however, I had no
>idea of Portola Valley's location. I'm not sure that I've ever heard
>of it before. I just looked on the map. I'm guessing I passed it or
>near it many times whilst zipping along Skyline Blvd over the years.
"Portola Valley" means that subset of the Portola neighborhood
that is not up on Portola Hill. And that's all it means.
If some dingbats down on the pennisula have also picked "Portola
Valley" to refer to some area or other down there, then they are
confused and need to fix this.
Steve
Ciccio
I'll take your word for it. Before now, the only Portola area in the
BA I was aware of is the Portola neighborhood in SF.
Al Eisner
Portola Valley has been an incorporated town for nearly 50 years.
So it's nothing new. I don't know if the name had much currency
before that time, but it's the only entry for that name in wikipedia,
and probably the only location of this name giving google hits.
It does have a hill, but it's Windy Hill.
Don't mess with them: they have lots of rich people, as well as
the San Andreas Fault.
Steve Pope
>Portola Valley has been an incorporated town for nearly 50 years.
That would make it one of the most recently incorporated municipalities
in the state, correct?
Steve
Peter Lawrence
I guess then that you have never visited Portola Redwoods State Park in San
Mateo County.
- Peter
Steve Pope
>I guess then that you have never visited Portola Redwoods State Park in San
>Mateo County.
Is there a Portola River, or Portola Creek in there? If so, that
would bolster the case for a "Portola Valley" placename.
Assuming the town of "Portola Valley" is actually in the drainage
of said creek.
Steve
Al Eisner
Portola is of course a historical name associated with the state, so
it appears in unrelated places. However, there is is just one
location "Portola Valley" in California. (I have not uncovered any
"Portola Creek" in CA, although its absence seems unlikely.)
Please be careful not to drown in Berkeley Creek. Or, even worse,
Silicon Creek.
Ciccio
> On 7/21/10 2:04 PM, Ciccio wrote:
> > I'll take your word for it. Before now, the only Portola area in the
> > BA I was aware of is the Portola neighborhood in SF.
> I guess then that you have never visited Portola Redwoods State Park in San
> Mateo County.
I stand by my original statement above, as I've never heard of it. I
just looked it up and I'm thinking the closest I've ever been near it
is a few jaunts to La Honda many years ago.
Golden California Girls
> wikipedia,
The great lie of the internet.
Cite something official if you want cachet.
Perhaps http://geonames.usgs.gov/
Don Martinich
<Pine.SOC.4.64.10...@flora03.slac.stanford.edu>,
Al Eisner <eis...@slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
Portola Valley lies in the San Francisquito Creek drainage which extends
in the upstream direction to Crystal Springs Lakes. The name comes from
"Portola-Crespi Valley" which was coined by a settler in 1868. The area
was mostly rural until the 1930's but a school had been built there at
the beginning of the 20th Century on land donated by Andrew Hallidie.
The area had become home to a number of residential developments by the
early 50's when I was in high school and I had a number of classmates
who lived there. It was incorporated in 1964. In the 50's and 60's there
were no shortage of drinking establishments in the area. One could start
the day at Rossotti's/Alpine Inn, then head "up the line" to Mama
Garcia's, Art's Portola Club, and a restaurant, whose name escapes me,
up near the Catholic church.
If you have been around San Francisco long enough you will know to
pronounce the name of the neighborhood Por-to-la' and not Por-to'-la.
Right Ciccio?
D.M.
Tony Lima
I'm one of Al's big fans. But I gotta agree with GCG on
this one. Wikipedia deserves to be consigned to about
Dante's sixth circle. - Tony (no I didn't check the source)
Ciccio
> If you have been around San Francisco long enough you will know to
> pronounce the name of the neighborhood Por-to-la' and not Por-to'-la.
> Right Ciccio?
Yeah, I think we're on the same page, something like PORT-ah-lah. Of
course, Bernal is another one that distinguishes San Franciscans from
the rest of the BA. Oh, and the Italians who pronounce Spanish names
with Italian pronunciations. Often, they're the same, but there's
still old time Italian San Franciscans who will say Valencha St.
Ostap Bender
Has any one of you ever considered getting a life? Or at least posting
something related to food?
Ciccio
wrote:
> Has any one of you ever considered getting a life? Or at least posting
> something related to food?
Have you ever considered getting a life other than being a junior
wannabe net cop?
Ostap Bender
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender wrote:
> > Frank, I shop at Ranch 99 in San Jose on Wolfe Rd.
>
> Even *I* know the store you're referring to is in Cupertino, not
> San Jose. Not even close to San Jose. It's closer to Santa
> Clara and Sunnyvale than to San Jose.
>
> And the name of the store is "99 Ranch Market", not "Ranch 99".
>
> How can you be a mussel critic if you don't even know what city
> you're in OR the name of the market where you claim to shop?
On Jun 6, 2:19 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> The takout food bars at our Hole Foods sucks royally. And costs
> $8/lb - same as USDA Prime Ribeye from CostCo.
>
> The last I something from there - beef burgandy - I started
> choking on it it was so dry.
How can you be a food critic if you don't even know how to spell
"Burgundy"?
On Jun 6, 4:14 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> Subject: Burger King "Ribs"
>
> Are they really ribs or are they "meat" pressed and formed over
> riblet bones they dug out of the Applebees dumpsters?
>
> The few pictures I've seen make them look like they're formed.
> Those of us who know our spares and baby backs know that ribs do
> *not* look like that.
>
> There's no online nutritional information/ingredient list for them
> (yet), but I'm betting they're made from fibrinogen and thrombin
> plasma protein. I remember buying something similar at a grocery
> store about a decade ago. I'll go to BK and ask for the
> nutritional info personally (they have to provide it).
Will you? Wow. You must be the most dedicated junk food eater ever....
On Jun 7, 7:48 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> Of the national brands, "Ore-Ida fast food fries" are the best
> (IMO).
On Jun 6, 3:05 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
>
> Taco Bell (AKA, Colostomy Bags International) is supposedly
> offering a coupon for a free drink of some sort. You have to
> install a Java Applet on your computer to get it to print. There
> is no description whatsoever what the applet does or any sort of
> license agreement.
>
> Proceeding froze up my computer for 6 minutes to where I couldn't
> even switch windows, while the Java applet consumed more and more
> memory. God knows what it did to my computer during that time.
>
> When it finally did release itself, I got this:
>
> "Print attempt denied - abnormal request detected.
>
> Your coupon print request has been denied. Clicking your back
> button may have triggered this warning or you may have entered a
> disallowed URL."
>
> There is nobody to contact about the error or ask questions. Taco
> Bell denies responsibility for the distribution of their
> fictitious "coupon".
>
> Do not fall for this hoax. It's just another dirty scheme to suck
> shit out of your computer and wrap it up in tortillas and sell it
> to unsuspecting customer for a huge profit!
Wow. You are a real dedicated gourmet who is an expert on frozen foods
and who will devote hours to getting a free carbonated corn syrup
(aka'soda') at a junk food joint. Now I understand why you can't tell
the difference between live and frozen mussels, and have to put
yourself on a liquid diet to keep form exploding.
sf
That's what happens when someone cross posts to a group that doesn't
talk about cooking. They talk about what restaurants serve, but they
don't talk about recipes.
Have you ever thought about stripping sig lines when your newsreader
refuses to strip them for you?
--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
sf
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 1:42 am, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
<snip>
>
> Ciccio
> _______________________
> O.B.A.M.A.
> (One Big Ass Mistake, America)
> 47% Approval Rating Today.
I'm leaving your sig line in on purpose to let you know you need to
reconfigure it. I just blasted Ostap for something that's really your
fault. Copy and paste my break signal into your sig file if you can't
figure it out by yourself.
Ciccio
> I'm leaving your sig line in on purpose to let you know you need to
> reconfigure it.
No, I don't need to reconfigure it. We went around about this last
month when you got on your broom about it. My sig line is just the way
I want it.
>I just blasted Ostap for something that's really your
> fault. Copy and paste my break signal into your sig file if you can't
> figure it out by yourself.
Oh my Gawd!!! You can't read and he can't post without editing, or
chooses not to...And you say it's *really* my fault!? I would tell
you what's really your fault, but if you haven't acquired self-
responsibility by now, you never will.
Ciccio
_______________________
O.B.A.M.A.
(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
46% Approval Rating Today.
Al Eisner
In my experience, when it pertains to things I know about, wikipedia is
usually pretty much correct, but of course it is not authoritative and
should not be relied upon when it matters. I didn't regard the current
instance as particularly important, but in any case I got my information
from a town-of-Portola-Valley website -- I was lazy and didn't bother
referring to it, and wikipedia seemed to be correct in its limited
information.
By the way, there's no reason to be cross-posting this thread -- all
those in the discussion are in ba.food anyway, and it only causes
potential trouble to cross-post. (I'm also guilty of not noticing
the cross-posting earlier.)
sf
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> No, I don't need to reconfigure it. We went around about this last
> month when you got on your broom about it. My sig line is just the way
> I want it.
I think I said words to the effect of "it doesn't break for me either,
you should fix it" in that thread, although others certainly ate you
for lunch.
--
Racists are mad as hell that a black man is president.
Ciccio
> I think I said words to the effect of "it doesn't break for me either,
> you should fix it" in that thread, although others certainly ate you
> for lunch.
Nobody did that. They discussed the functions of sig lines. In fact,
one person even recognized that, plain and simple, I don't want it
automatically trimmed. DUH!
Of course, all this is a great diversion from your making the mistake
above, as well as your blatant and lame attempt to make me the blame,
rather than just accepting your own responsibility.
> Racists are mad as hell that a black man is president.
I'm sure they are. However, millions of non-racist Americans are mad
as hell at Obama's job performance. If you, however, want to inject
race into the issue, if it weren't for black racists supporting Obama
solely based on his race, then his dismal approval rating would be
woefully even lower.
Pete Fraser
news:e547100e-14b1-4429...@x1g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
> My sig line is just the way I want it.
Tedious and annoying?
Don Martinich
<bda6f58d-c9a2-4bd0...@q21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Ostap Bender <ostap_be...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You must be new here, lollipop. If this group didn't post OT there would
only be about 2 messages a week so stop whining.
Ciccio
> "Ciccio" <frances...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:e547100e-14b1-4429...@x1g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > My sig line is just the way I want it.
>
> Tedious and annoying?
Jeez Pete, it really bothers me that you feel that way. So, thanks to
your blunt, but well meaning criticism, I've decided to change my sig,
just for you.
Ciccio
__________________
O.B.A.M.A.
(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
46% Approval Rating Today.
Recession = When your neighbors lose their jobs.
Depression = When you lose your job.
Recovery = When Obama loses his job.
Ostap Bender
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:42:21 -0700 (PDT), Ostap Bender
>
>
>
> <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 4:45 pm, Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 3:25 pm, Peter Lawrence <hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 7/21/10 2:04 PM, Ciccio wrote:
> > > > > I'll take your word for it. Before now, the only Portola area in the
> > > > > BA I was aware of is the Portola neighborhood in SF.
> > > > I guess then that you have never visited Portola Redwoods State Park in San
> > > > Mateo County.
>
> > > I stand by my original statement above, as I've never heard of it. I
> > > just looked it up and I'm thinking the closest I've ever been near it
> > > is a few jaunts to La Honda many years ago.
>
> > > Ciccio
> > > _______________________
> > > O.B.A.M.A.
> > > (One Big Ass Mistake, America)
> > > 47% Approval Rating Today.
>
> > Has any one of you ever considered getting a life? Or at least posting
> > something related to food?
>
> That's what happens when someone cross posts to a group that doesn't
> talk about cooking. They talk about what restaurants serve, but they
> don't talk about recipes.
I crossposted to ba.food because we were talking about where to buy
live mussels in hte Bay Area.
> Have you ever thought about stripping sig lines when your newsreader
> refuses to strip them for you?
I kinda like to leave other people's sigs that show them to be
hillbilly idiots gloating over Obama's 45% rating, whereas Dubya has
his rating in the teens.
Ciccio
wrote:
> I kinda like to leave other people's sigs that show them to be
> hillbilly idiots gloating over Obama's 45% rating, whereas Dubya has
> his rating in the teens.
When Obama was first elected the liberals were comparing him to
Lincoln. Now, they're comparing him to Bush...Too funny.
Ciccio
__________________
O.B.A.M.A.
(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
sf
<ostap_be...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I kinda like to leave other people's sigs that show them to be
>hillbilly idiots gloating over Obama's 45% rating, whereas Dubya has
>his rating in the teens.
AFAIC, people can put what they want in their sig line as long as they
are properly configured. His isn't configured properly and it's not
an accident. Accidental or not, sig lines that are not properly
configured should be stripped on reply... if for no other reason than
to piss off anyone who configures it that way on purpose.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
RWW
612f51ee-04ea-4727...@x1g2000prc.googlegroups.com, "Ciccio"
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 8:20 pm, Ostap Bender <ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I kinda like to leave other people's sigs that show them to be
>> hillbilly idiots gloating over Obama's 45% rating, whereas Dubya has
>> his rating in the teens.
>
> When Obama was first elected the liberals were comparing him to
> Lincoln. Now, they're comparing him to Bush...Too funny.
Now they are comparing him to Carter.
He's way in over his head. When he salutes the military
off his chopper, it's very questionable. Mister anti-America,
and anti-western-capitalism falsely saluting men who enabled his
prospering is very sad for an American Leader.
Hopefully, American Democracy will prevail and peacefully
irradiate the cancer from the media that enabled this
anomaly from spreading further.
Ciccio
> AFAIC, people can put what they want in their sig line as long as they
> are properly configured. His isn't configured properly and it's not
> an accident.
It is properly configured as it is the way I want it configured.
>... if for no other reason than
> to piss off anyone who configures it that way on purpose.
You're the only one I see on a broom about it...
Ciccio
__________________
O.B.A.M.A.
(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
sf
> Now they are comparing him to Carter.
By "they" of course you mean those one trick Fox scare mongers like
Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck.
blake murphy
what a load of crap.
blake
Tony Lima
[egregious cross-posts removed]
OK, Al, you're back in my good graces!
Al Eisner
> OK, Al, you're back in my good graces!
Whew, that was a close call!
sf
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > AFAIC, people can put what they want in their sig line as long as they
> > are properly configured. His isn't configured properly and it's not
> > an accident.
>
> It is properly configured as it is the way I want it configured.
- which says more about you than your sig line does.
>
> >... if for no other reason than
> > to piss off anyone who configures it that way on purpose.
>
> You're the only one I see on a broom about it...
>
Want to take a poll?
Improperly configured sig lines are either done because the poster is
either ignorant or rude. You claim you're not ignorant, so you're
rude.
Ciccio
> > On Jul 22, 11:11 pm, sf <sf.use...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > > AFAIC, people can put what they want in their sig line as long as they
> > > are properly configured. His isn't configured properly and it's not
> > > an accident.
>
> > It is properly configured as it is the way I want it configured.
>
> - which says more about you than your sig line does.
>
> > >... if for no other reason than
> > > to piss off anyone who configures it that way on purpose.
>
> > You're the only one I see on a broom about it...
>
> Want to take a poll?
No need to. I can read. If others don't like it, they're not on a
broom pissing and moaning about it. You're the only one I see who is
doing that.
> Improperly configured sig lines are either done because the poster is
> either ignorant or rude. You claim you're not ignorant, so you're
> rude.
Nothing rude about it. What is rude, is somebody like you, who makes
a dumb mistake then shirks her self- responsibility and blames others
for it. Now, when you can overcome that character flaw, come back and
talk about rude.
Ciccio
__________________
O.B.A.M.A.
(One Big Ass Mistake, America)
44% Approval Rating Today.
RWW
2fe14e78-2d51-49b0...@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com, "Ciccio"
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Improperly configured sig lines are either done because the poster is
>> either ignorant or rude. You claim you're not ignorant, so you're
>> rude.
>
> Nothing rude about it. What is rude, is somebody like you, who makes
> a dumb mistake then shirks her self- responsibility and blames others
> for it. Now, when you can overcome that character flaw, come back and
> talk about rude.
I nominate Frances to "do the honorable thing", and solve this
problem proactively.
I've heard that Apple uses this philosophy very effectively in
dealing with its Asian supply chain problems.
sf
> I nominate Frances to "do the honorable thing", and solve this
> problem proactively.
>
> I've heard that Apple uses this philosophy very effectively in
> dealing with its Asian supply chain problems.
Take a long walk off a short pier while your pal continues to
demonstrate how rude he is. In the mean time RWW will join all your
other personas in the bozo bin.
Peter Lawrence
>
> No need to. I can read. If others don't like it, they're not on a
> broom pissing and moaning about it. You're the only one I see who is
> doing that.
>
>> Improperly configured sig lines are either done because the poster is
>> either ignorant or rude. You claim you're not ignorant, so you're
>> rude.
>
> Nothing rude about it.
Actually, when someone doesn't following Usenet etiquette, they are being
either rude or ignorant by definition.
But I've long since stopped being a netcop and pointing out bad Usenet
etiquette like top posting, not snipping or editing long posts, typing in
all caps, or improperly configured sigs.
But it's still rude when someone intentionally does those things when they
know it's not proper netiquette, even when their transgression isn't pointed
out by others.
- Peter
RWW
"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:15:45 -0700, RWW <RWW...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I nominate Frances to "do the honorable thing", and solve this
>> problem proactively.
>>
>> I've heard that Apple uses this philosophy very effectively in
>> dealing with its Asian supply chain problems.
>
> Take a long walk off a short pier while your pal continues to
> demonstrate how rude he is. In the mean time RWW will join all your
> other personas in the bozo bin.
Sf has nothing constructive to add. He should evaluate his
life and then decide whether to route the car's exhaust
pipe into his front seat, or take the easier route by simply
looking up and pulling his trigger.
Either way, SF could be in a better place. You can see his
frustration with his life on the internet. Sad real-time display of
a mind gone bad, but we hear that he may save his
family from years of litigation if he just triggers the Life
insurance policy on his own terms.
Ciccio
> Actually, when someone doesn't following Usenet etiquette, they are being
> either rude or ignorant by definition.
Oh Jeez, another netcop. Sheesh!
> But I've long since stopped being a netcop and pointing out bad Usenet
> etiquette like top posting, not snipping or editing long posts, typing in
> all caps, or improperly configured sigs.
But I've long ago stopped telling netcops like you that it's rude to
be a netcop, even when they pretend they're not being netcops by
saying that they long ago stopped being netcops. Yet, they chime in
with some netcop bullshit. But I'll make an exception in your case,
because maybe it's that you're so ignorant that you don't realize
that you're being a netcop.
> But it's still rude when someone intentionally does those things when they
> know it's not proper netiquette, even when their transgression isn't pointed
> out by others.
Oh, so then you repeat it...but you're not being a netcop...too funny.
What's even funnier, is that you chime in with an off-topic post.
Proper Usenet etiquette would be to email me with your netcop crap.
Oh, but then you wouldn't be able to show everybody what a netcop you
are [heh. not] being.
Ciccio
> Take a long walk off a short pier while your pal continues to
> demonstrate how rude he is. In the mean time RWW will join all your
> other personas in the bozo bin.
On Jul 23, 9:35 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Take a long walk off a short pier while your pal continues to
> demonstrate how rude he is. In the mean time RWW will join all your
> other personas in the bozo bin.
Tsk, tsk...Three breaches of netiquette by you in just this one post...
1. Not taking your off-topic pissing and moaning to email. 2.
Announcing who you're adding to your killlfile. 3. Improperly cross-
posting to another group.
Come on now...If you're going to whine about being rude, you should
practice what you preach. Now, watch, you'll come back with your usual
blame game refusing to admit you're wrong, then blaming me, everybody
else, and your dog for eating your netiquette bible.
sf
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Tsk, tsk...Three breaches of netiquette by you in just this one post...
> 1. Not taking your off-topic pissing and moaning to email. 2.
> Announcing who you're adding to your killlfile. 3. Improperly cross-
> posting to another group.
Try practicing what you preach.
>
> Come on now...If you're going to whine about being rude, you should
> practice what you preach. Now, watch, you'll come back with your usual
> blame game refusing to admit you're wrong, then blaming me, everybody
> else, and your dog for eating your netiquette bible.
Not only do you refuse to change your sig file, you're blaming others
for something that's entirely your own fault.
Peter Lawrence
> On Jul 23, 10:20 pm, Peter Lawrence<hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Actually, when someone doesn't following Usenet etiquette, they are being
>> either rude or ignorant by definition.
>
> Oh Jeez, another netcop. Sheesh!
>
>> But I've long since stopped being a netcop and pointing out bad Usenet
>> etiquette like top posting, not snipping or editing long posts, typing in
>> all caps, or improperly configured sigs.
>
> But I've long ago stopped telling netcops like you that it's rude to
> be a netcop, even when they pretend they're not being netcops by
> saying that they long ago stopped being netcops. Yet, they chime in
> with some netcop bullshit. But I'll make an exception in your case,
> because maybe it's that you're so ignorant that you don't realize
> that you're being a netcop.
>
>> But it's still rude when someone intentionally does those things when they
>> know it's not proper netiquette, even when their transgression isn't pointed
>> out by others.
>
> Oh, so then you repeat it...but you're not being a netcop...too funny.
> What's even funnier, is that you chime in with an off-topic post.
> Proper Usenet etiquette would be to email me with your netcop crap.
> Oh, but then you wouldn't be able to show everybody what a netcop you
> are [heh. not] being.
>
> Ciccio
If you think I'm being a netcop now, that's fine. Whatever floats your
boat. But you are still being rude with that improperly configured sig even
if you never admit to it.
- Peter
Ciccio
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Ciccio
> Try practicing what you preach.
I do. But I sure busted you...Too funny....You hypocrite.
> Not only do you refuse to change your sig file, you're blaming others
> for something that's entirely your own fault.
I'm not blaming anybody.Unlike you when you made a dumb mistake and
tried blaming others. Moreover, there is no fault. as my sig line is
*perfectly* the way I want it.
Eddie Grove
> Actually, when someone doesn't following Usenet etiquette, they are being
> either rude or ignorant by definition.
>
> But I've long since stopped being a netcop and pointing out bad Usenet
> etiquette like top posting, not snipping or editing long posts, typing in all
> caps, or improperly configured sigs.
>
> But it's still rude when someone intentionally does those things when they
> know it's not proper netiquette, even when their transgression isn't pointed
> out by others.
It is neither rude nor ignorant. It is simply trolling. You tell them once
just in case of ignorance, and they change or they don't. If they don't, and
it bothers you, put them in your killfile and move on.
Incessant complaints are exactly the behavior a troll is trying to induce.
You are just rewarding trolling when you keep giving it attention.
Eddie
Ciccio
> If you think I'm being a netcop now, that's fine. Whatever floats your
> boat. But you are still being rude with that improperly configured sig even
> if you never admit to it.
If you believe I'm being rude now, that's fine. Whatever floats your
boat. But you are still being a most petty whining weenie netpig even
if you never admit it.
sf
<franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 11:35 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 05:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Ciccio
>
> > Try practicing what you preach.
>
> I do. But I sure busted you...Too funny....You hypocrite.
There ya go again, not practicing what you preach.
>
> > Not only do you refuse to change your sig file, you're blaming others
> > for something that's entirely your own fault.
>
> I'm not blaming anybody.Unlike you when you made a dumb mistake and
> tried blaming others. Moreover, there is no fault. as my sig line is
> *perfectly* the way I want it.
>
No mistake was made on my part. You need a delimiter.
sf
wrote:
> Incessant complaints are exactly the behavior a troll is trying to induce.
> You are just rewarding trolling when you keep giving it attention.
Yeah, you're right. Once an asshole always an asshole.
Peter Lawrence
> On Jul 24, 11:51 am, Peter Lawrence<hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> If you think I'm being a netcop now, that's fine. Whatever floats your
>> boat. But you are still being rude with that improperly configured sig even
>> if you never admit to it.
>
> If you believe I'm being rude now, that's fine. Whatever floats your
> boat. But you are still being a most petty whining weenie netpig even
> if you never admit it.
Throwing out ad hominem insults toward me. Hmmm, I must have really hit a
nerve. Oh well.
- Peter
Ciccio
> On 24 Jul 2010 11:16:56 -0600, Eddie Grove <eddiegr...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Incessant complaints are exactly the behavior a troll is trying to induce.
> > You are just rewarding trolling when you keep giving it attention.
>
> Yeah, you're right. Once an asshole always an asshole.
Yeah, you sure prove that...
Ciccio
> Throwing out ad hominem insults toward me.
Nawwww. Just chiming in with some constructive criticisms...you know.
>Hmmm, I must have really hit a
> nerve. Oh well.
Yeah, the one that makes me laugh...
Ciccio
> No mistake was made on my part. You need a delimiter.
You misread a post, then tried to blame me and the other poster for
it, rather just taking responsibility for your own dumb
mistake...Pretty lame. But that's not surprising, shirking self-
responsibility goes hand in hand with being a hypocrite.
Golden California Girls
>
> No mistake was made on my part. You need a delimiter.
He is right, you are wrong. It isn't a .sig file because it doesn't have a
RFC recognized delimiter. Of course that doesn't make him any less an
asshole, and he should still be criticized for his off topic posts. (It is
a post because it isn't a valid .sig)
Ciccio
wrote:
>Of course that doesn't make him any less an
> asshole, and he should still be criticized for his off topic posts. (It is
> a post because it isn't a valid .sig)
Heh. And look who is talking about being an asshole for posting off-
topic posts... you the [drag] queen of off-topic posts.
Keith Keller
>
> Nawwww. Just chiming in with some constructive criticisms...you know.
You're being a schmuck. Nothing new, really.
--keith
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Ciccio
francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> You're being a schmuck. Nothing new, really.
After reading your posts, that coming from the likes of you, makes me
feel great. I mean, a loser calling me names...Nothing new, really.