Arya (Persian?) Cupertino
Gavin Scott
the dead Pizzeria Uno (Etc.))) on Stevens Creek in Cupertino today and
they're busy painting it light blue and there's a Liquor License public
announcement on the door in the name of "Arya Global Cuisine", a google
of which turns up a business name registration for that, "Arya Persian
Cuisine", "Arya Restaurant" and just plain "Arya".
G.
Steve Cooper
wrote:
Today's addition: A banner proclaiming "Coming Soon" and on the next
line, "Persian Italian American".
S.
SMS
I was at a city council meeting last week, and Arya is applying for a
use permit to be able to be open past 11:00 p.m.. If it's not granted,
they may not open.
Gavin Scott
> I was at a city council meeting last week, and Arya is applying for a
> use permit to be able to be open past 11:00 p.m.
In Cupertino? Good luck with that. I seem to recall more than one of
the previous (doomed) tenants trying to get away with the same thing
without success. Either Lori's or Rib Crib at one point had a banner
up proclaiming "Now open late!" Where late turned out to be 9 or 10pm
I believe.
Sounds like an interesting restaurant (Persian, Italian, American)
and since it's walking distance from here we'll be hoping
they make it and are open for lunch.
G.
SMS
> SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> I was at a city council meeting last week, and Arya is applying for a
>> use permit to be able to be open past 11:00 p.m.
>
> In Cupertino? Good luck with that. I seem to recall more than one of
> the previous (doomed) tenants trying to get away with the same thing
> without success. Either Lori's or Rib Crib at one point had a banner
> up proclaiming "Now open late!" Where late turned out to be 9 or 10pm
> I believe.
It's why so many retail businesses avoid Cupertino, and move in just
over the city limit to west San Jose, Sunnyvale, or Santa Clara.
> Sounds like an interesting restaurant (Persian, Italian, American)
> and since it's walking distance from here we'll be hoping
> they make it and are open for lunch.
These multi-cuisine restaurants rarely are any good.
That location is hopeless anyway. This is going to be the fourth
restaurant in that building, at least that I remember. Uno, Rib Crib,
Lori's, and now Arya.
Geoff Miller
SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> writes:
> It's why so many retail businesses avoid Cupertino, and move in just
> over the city limit to west San Jose, Sunnyvale, or Santa Clara.
Interesting. What do you figure the reason for this municipal hostility
to retail business is?
Geoff
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Ciccio
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> Gavin Scott wrote:
>> SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> I was at a city council meeting last week, and Arya is applying for a
>>> use permit to be able to be open past 11:00 p.m.
> It's why so many retail businesses avoid Cupertino, and move in just over
> the city limit to west San Jose, Sunnyvale, or Santa Clara.
The "many" businesses, you refer to, wanted to remain open past 11:00 PM?
Or are there other factors that make the other locations a better choice for
retail businesses?
Ciccio
Ciccio
SMS
The businesses I know of that want to stay open longer hours (which
includes earlier opening times as well as later closing times) are bars,
restaurants, and supermarkets.
Specifically:
Albertson's on De Anza wanted to open earlier.
Verde Tea Cafe on Stevens Creek wanted to stay open later.
Blue Pheasant on Stevens Creek wanted to stay open later.
McDonald's on Stelling wanted to stay open later, and was especially
upset because the KFC/TB diagonally across from it in Sunnyvale stays
open late, and supposedly Sunnyvale and Cupertino have an agreement that
competing businesses on the borders don't get operating permits for late
night operation, but the KFC/TB is able to stay open very late.
Lori's, and now Arya wanted to open later.
SMS
> SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> writes:
>
>> It's why so many retail businesses avoid Cupertino, and move in just
>> over the city limit to west San Jose, Sunnyvale, or Santa Clara.
>
>
> Interesting. What do you figure the reason for this municipal hostility
> to retail business is?
In some cases it's neighbors, that built homes long after the business
was established, that don't want the late night operation.
If you were going to open a restaurant or store that typically has late
night or early morning operation, you'd go just over the city line and
not hassle with it.
Hence no Safeways any more in Cupertino, when Safeway made the move to
24 hour stores, that pretty much guaranteed that they'd not open a new
store after the one on Homestead closed.
If there are no nearby residences, it's probable that late night
operating permits would be granted. Not sure about Arya, as it kind of
backs up to a neighborhood.
The Ranger
> Geoff Miller wrote:
>> SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> writes:
>>> It's why so many retail businesses avoid Cupertino,
>>> and move in just over the city limit to west San Jose,
>>> Sunnyvale, or Santa Clara.
>> >
>> Interesting. What do you figure the reason for this
>> municipal hostility to retail business is?
>>
> In some cases it's neighbors, that built homes long after
> the business was established, that don't want the late
> night operation.
Cupertino is rife with hostile (and lawyer-heavy) NIMBY types. The
Blue Pheasant was denied extending their hours because of a
hostile and aggressive campaign. Permanente is always fighting
this "zoning" issue with its neighbors. It's historically gone
against every business that's fought the residences.
One such story regarding issues residents had with the Blue
Pheasant.
http://www.community-newspapers.com/archives/cupertinocourier/20040721/cu-news2.shtml
(or if the link breaks
http://tinyurl.com/298mk9)
The Ranger
SMS
> Cupertino is rife with hostile (and lawyer-heavy) NIMBY types. The
> Blue Pheasant was denied extending their hours because of a
> hostile and aggressive campaign. Permanente is always fighting
> this "zoning" issue with its neighbors. It's historically gone
> against every business that's fought the residences.
Well Hanson (formerly Permanante) now wants to expand their quarry,
which is a bit different than continuing to operate as they have in the
past. But there should never have been homes allowed to be built in that
area in the first place.
The developers essentially own the city council and planning
commissions, not only in Cupertino but in other cities as well. They
always get their projects approved, no matter how ill-advised. Schools,
traffic, health of residents, always take a back seat to what developers
want. In some cases there are outright conflicts of interest, with the
politicians voting to approve rezoning personally profiting from the
rezoning. In rare cases, the citizens rise up against the developers,
but it's a tremendous effort that requires getting the residents really
angry.
Dan Abel
SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> The developers essentially own the city council and planning
> commissions, not only in Cupertino but in other cities as well. They
> always get their projects approved, no matter how ill-advised. Schools,
> traffic, health of residents, always take a back seat to what developers
> want. In some cases there are outright conflicts of interest, with the
> politicians voting to approve rezoning personally profiting from the
> rezoning.
Here in Petaluma, there have been three ballot measures to raise the pay
of city council members. All three were defeated. As I remember, it
would have been $400 a month for the city council members and $800 for
the mayor. This is a pittance. So they get paid $5 and $10 instead.
Who's going to run for office to give their time away? The developers
(or the property owners) and the flakes.
Ciccio
> The businesses I know of that want to stay open longer hours (which
> includes earlier opening times as well as later closing times) are bars,
> restaurants, and supermarkets.
Oh, OK. So Cupertino is just hostile to retailers that want to remain
open into the wee hours. That makes more sense. It was sounding like
the city was hostile toward all retail business.
Ciccio
sieler
> announcement on the door in the name of "Arya Global Cuisine", a google
> of which turns up a business name registration for that, "Arya Persian
> Cuisine", "Arya Restaurant" and just plain "Arya".
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/fbh/378226721.html from July 20 says
..."JOIN A DYNAMIC TEAM IN THIS FUN NEW CONCEPT PERSIAN, & ITALIAN
CUISINE IN CUPERTINO, RESTAURANT TO OPEN SOON, NOW HIRING MANAGER,
BARTENDERS FOR WINE BAR, SERVERS, BUSSERS, EXPEDITORS, HOSTESS, LINE
COOKS, GRILL COOKS, SAUTEE COOKS, PANTRY COOKS, SOUS CHEF,
DISHWASHERS. ALL SHIFTS AVAILABLE PT/ FT"...
SMS
It's not just the wee hours. Look at what was probably one of shortest
lived businesses in Cupertino, the Oakville Market on Stevens Creek and
De Anza. They closed because the city wouldn't allow them to open a deli
and sell prepared hot food.