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Jonathan M. Wright

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Nov 4, 2003, 12:46:01 AM11/4/03
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Just thought I'd bore some of you with this:

Jonathan's Top 10 San Francisco Restaurants:


10. Helmand (Afgan)
9. Thang Long (Vietnamese)
8. Sinugba* (Filipino)
7. Boulevard (California)
6. Pho Tau Bay - Vietnam II (Vietnamese)
5. King of Thai Noodle (Thai)
4. La Taqueria (Mexican)
3.Tanpopo (Japanese)
2. Brothers (Korean)
1. Great Eastern (Chinese)

*actually in Daly City


SlipperySlope

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Nov 4, 2003, 3:08:54 AM11/4/03
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"Jonathan M. Wright" wrote:

From what can be told from your given recommendations you don't get
out-and-about too often do you?

Peter Dy

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Nov 4, 2003, 4:45:08 AM11/4/03
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"Jonathan M. Wright" <dur...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Just thought I'd bore some of you with this:
>
> Jonathan's Top 10 San Francisco Restaurants:
[...]
> 1. Great Eastern (Chinese)


Great choice. Don't recall Great Eastern mentioned here much for excellent
Chinatown fare, but I went there recently and liked it a lot. Just be sure
to order seafood only, no meat dishes.

My favorites in Chinatown are:

R&G Lounge
Great Eastern
New Sun Hong Kong
Silver (a dive, of course, but I love it)

Peter


amalia

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Nov 4, 2003, 1:07:17 PM11/4/03
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"Jonathan M. Wright" <dur...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Just thought I'd bore some of you with this:
>
> Jonathan's Top 10 San Francisco Restaurants:
> > 8. Sinugba* (Filipino)

Will try Sinugba, thanks. Is it a steam table place or do you order off the
menu?

> 5. King of Thai Noodle (Thai)

Some of my favorite fast food in the City. The one below Union Square never
fails to remind R. and I of a food court in Bangkok (minus the coupons...)

> 4. La Taqueria (Mexican)

I think this place is so incredibly overrated. They do a good tongue taco,
but their carne asada is so variable I can't stand it. It's taken me a while
to come to this, since I don't eat there that often. But last night I saw a
parking space nearby and went in for a quesadilla suiza (flour tortilla with
meat). The carne asada was greasy, overcooked, tough and flavorless, and the
tortilla was dripping grease.

I much prefer El Taco Loco at Mission 29th or either El Farolito location.
There's also a newish place on Divisadero near Sutter that specializes in
seafood and is really good. The food is tasty, not greasy, and the guys at
the counter are very friendly. The name has "mar" (ocean) in it and the
walls are painted in bright colors. It's a narrow place with the counter in
back (as opposed to the other place with the bay window in front on the same
block). Recommended.

-Amalia


Jonathan M. Wright

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Nov 4, 2003, 8:06:28 PM11/4/03
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"SlipperySlope" <THE...@zip.net> wrote in message
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Hey, not sure what you mean by that. Is one of them closed? Havn't been to
Thang Long recently, but the others I'm sure are open.

BTW, no I don't get out too much. Not in this crappy economy.

-J


Jonathan M. Wright

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Nov 4, 2003, 8:20:27 PM11/4/03
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I like El Farolito too (they also sponsor the best soccer team in S.F.), but
haven't heard of the Crazy Taco. I'll have to try it.


I never have had a bad experience at La Taqueria, that's why it's in my top
10. Sorry for your experience. I never heard of it until a friend brought me
by there last year. Didn't know it was rated.


Glad to hear you like KOTN. I go to the one on Clement/33rd or 34th ave. It
my favorite.


Sinugba - order off the menu. Breakfast is great, where you can get your
choice of meat, rice, and over medium egg for $6. My favorite is the pork.
Any adobo is good too.


Good Luck
J


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Mark Mellin

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Nov 5, 2003, 2:33:45 AM11/5/03
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In article <vfYpb.3688$Wy2....@typhoon.sonic.net>, "Jonathan M.
Wright" wrote:
> Amalia wrote:

> > "Jonathan M. Wright" wrote:
> >
> > > 4. La Taqueria (Mexican)
> >
> > I think this place is so incredibly overrated. They do a good tongue taco,
> > but their carne asada is so variable I can't stand it. It's taken me a
> > while to come to this, since I don't eat there that often. But last
> > night I saw a parking space nearby and went in for a quesadilla suiza
> > (flour tortilla with meat). The carne asada was greasy, overcooked,
> > tough and flavorless, and the tortilla was dripping grease.
>
> I never have had a bad experience at La Taqueria, that's why it's in my top
> 10. Sorry for your experience. I never heard of it until a friend brought me
> by there last year. Didn't know it was rated.

It has been a Chronicle darling for years:

<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/04/13/CM100REST_IM
.txt#LATAQUERIA>

<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/09/28/CMBITESCH
ART1.txt>

I always found the prices too high and the hours too limited compared
to Mission Street neighbors Taqueria San Jose or Cancun.

- Mark

--
Mark Mellin San Mateo Village, CA 94403-2918 USA

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Nov 5, 2003, 5:26:41 AM11/5/03
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"Peter Dy" <pet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Jonathan M. Wright" <dur...@sonic.net> wrote:
> > 1. Great Eastern (Chinese)
>
> Great choice.

I agree. It's been my favorite Chinatown restaurant for decades.
Haven't been there in quite a while.

Years ago, sitting at the front, was a heavy Chinese man in a business
suit chomping on a big cigar. He looked like a Chinese Mafioso and was
probably either one or the owner of the place. I cannot recall having
ever seen or heard him do or say anything. He just sat there and
watched.
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amalia

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"Mark Mellin" <markm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> In article <vfYpb.3688$Wy2....@typhoon.sonic.net>, "Jonathan M.
> Wright" wrote:
> > Amalia wrote:
> > > "Jonathan M. Wright" wrote:
> > >
> > > > 4. La Taqueria (Mexican)
> > >
> > > I think this place is so incredibly overrated. They do a good tongue
taco,
> > > but their carne asada is so variable I can't stand it. It's taken me a
> > > while to come to this, since I don't eat there that often. But last
> > > night I saw a parking space nearby and went in for a quesadilla suiza
> > > (flour tortilla with meat). The carne asada was greasy, overcooked,
> > > tough and flavorless, and the tortilla was dripping grease.
> >
> > I never have had a bad experience at La Taqueria, that's why it's in my
top
> > 10. Sorry for your experience. I never heard of it until a friend
brought me
> > by there last year. Didn't know it was rated.
>
> It has been a Chronicle darling for years:
>
> I always found the prices too high and the hours too limited compared
> to Mission Street neighbors Taqueria San Jose or Cancun.

Those are both good places, and both open late, which can be handy. The only
downside to Taqueria San Jose is the incredibly bright fluorescent lights,
which are grating late at night, as you might imagine. Taqueria Cancun is my
favorite place for a torta, btw.


Al Eisner

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Nov 5, 2003, 1:31:55 PM11/5/03
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Hi, Mark -- since you're now in San Mateo, how do these places compare to
the San Mateo Pancho Villa (my favorite peninsula tacqueria)?
--
Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA

Mark Mellin

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Nov 8, 2003, 12:54:17 AM11/8/03
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In article
<Pine.GSO.4.58.03...@flora01.slac.stanford.edu>, Al Eisner
wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Mark Mellin wrote:
> "Jonathan M. Wright" wrote, in reply to Amalia's dissing of SF's La Taqueria:

> > >
> > > I never have had a bad experience at La Taqueria, that's why it's in my
> > > top 10. Sorry for your experience. I never heard of it until a friend
> > > brought me by there last year. Didn't know it was rated.
> >
> > It has been a Chronicle darling for years:
> >
> > <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/04/13/CM100REST_IM
> > .txt#LATAQUERIA>
> >
> > <http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2003/09/28/CMBITESCH
> > ART1.txt>
> >
> > I always found the prices too high and the hours too limited compared
> > to Mission Street neighbors Taqueria San Jose or Cancun.
>
> Hi, Mark -- since you're now in San Mateo, how do these places compare to
> the San Mateo Pancho Villa (my favorite peninsula tacqueria)?

We live 35 blocks south of downtown, so I've yet to try San Mateo's
Pancho Villa, what with the Caltrain weekend shutdown and all. In the
early nineties, I was quite fond of the wegetarian burritos at the 16th
Street Pancho Villa, in the city, their carne wasn't bad either, if
memory serves.

In our neck of the woods, Marina Plaza's (South Norfolk at East
Hillsdale) Taqueria de Amigos seems to be the best bet. Popular with
motorcycle CHP [1], they're open until 11:30 pm. Others I've tried in
the region include Taqueria El Aguila (South El Camino, next door to the
amazing hubcap place) and La Cabana (43rd Avenue). El Aguila closes at
nine, and suffers from slow service. La Cabana is very friendly, but
smells like they need to change the oil in their deep fryers.

- Mark

[1] Based on the number of SFPD I recall seeing at San Francisco's
Alabama Street El Farolito late at night, I take this as a good sign.
This may be cuisine specific, however. I recently noted one of Menlo
Park's finest noshing at Tokyo Subway.

Frank Rizzo

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Nov 10, 2003, 5:56:18 PM11/10/03
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Interesting...Not one Italian food restaurant made your top ten...No
accounting for taste.
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Jonathan M. Wright

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Nov 10, 2003, 6:35:50 PM11/10/03
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Tried about 4-5 Italian places in the city, didnt' like any of them much.
Buca de Beppo was alright, but not close to my top 10. I like Golden Boy in
North Beach.

Pasta really originates from China, so most Italian food can really be
considered Chinese food when you think about it. Pizza first came about in
Egypt.

Say, what kind of a name is Rizzo anyway?

Bah hahahaha ahhahahahahha hahahahaah

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Michael Wise

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Nov 10, 2003, 8:18:13 PM11/10/03
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In article <qhVrb.5904$Wy2....@typhoon.sonic.net>,

"Jonathan M. Wright" <dontwan...@spam.com> wrote:

> Tried about 4-5 Italian places in the city, didnt' like any of them much.
> Buca de Beppo was alright, but not close to my top 10. I like Golden Boy in
> North Beach.
>
> Pasta really originates from China, so most Italian food can really be
> considered Chinese food when you think about it. Pizza first came about in
> Egypt.

Are you insinuating that pasta and pizza are the sum total of Italian
food?


--Mike

Tim May

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Nov 10, 2003, 8:31:57 PM11/10/03
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In article <no-1B1052.17...@news.easynews.com>, Michael Wise
<n...@no.spam> wrote:

In any case, this notion that "pasta came from China" was debunked
decades ago. The Romans of Caesar's time, presumably before, knew how
to grind flour, dry the product, and later boil it. A bunch of
cultures, in fact, figured out this very obvious alternative to baking.

Maybe some particular _shapes_ came back from China with Marco Polo,
but all cultures who have grown wheat or its close equivalents have
figured out "boiling the dried product" as an alternative to baking.


--Tim May

Alison Chaiken

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Nov 10, 2003, 9:49:12 PM11/10/03
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Frank Rizzo comments on Jonathan Wright's posting:

>> Not one Italian food restaurant made your top ten...No accounting
>> for taste.

Funny, same thing with my top 10 -- or 20.

"Jonathan M. Wright" <dontwan...@spam.com> writes:
> Say, what kind of a name is Rizzo anyway?

Google knows. See a relevant image at

http://www.philly-food.com/frank-rizzo.html

By the way, one can only hope that $64.90 for two dozen soft pretzels
elsewhere on the site is a joke. They don't even include a can of
sterno.

For some true-life historical entertainment, search for

Rizzo MOVE Goode Philadelphia

and see how contrary the different versions of events you come up with
are.

--
Alison Chaiken "From:" address above is valid.
(650) 236-2231 [daytime] http://www.wsrcc.com/alison/
The future will judge us, as it always judges the past, by our art
more than by our armies. -- Ned Rorem

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