[PROPOSAL] Create moderated version of ba.broadcast, ba.broadcast.moderated (reposted)
Mark Roberts
e-mail address: Sergea...@comcast.net, apparently posted
from databasix.com) to cancel the post. Most news servers have
stopped honoring cancel messages due to abuse of that function;
but in the event that there are a few that still do honor it,
I am reposting the proposal in order to allow all who want to
comment on the proposal the opportunity to do so.]
For your newsgroups file:
ba.broadcast.moderated Bay Area TV/Radio issues. (Moderated)
From the original 1992 ba.broadcast charter by Eliot Lear
<le...@yeager.corp.sgi.com>:
"This group is here for discussions, comments and program reminders about
broadcast media in the San Francisco Bay Area, both radio and
television. It also includes cable systems and TVRO/BCRO in the SF Bay
Area. It does not include scanner, ham radio or other action here in
the SF Bay Area; these may be addressed in another newsgroup at another
time. Issues of national interest should be posted to one of the groups
in rec.arts.tv or rec.radio."
Proposed 2009 updates to original ba.broadcast charter for
ba.broadcast.moderated:
The purpose of the newsgroup is to discuss the practice of broadcasting,
including programming, sales and management, engineering, broadcast
technology, and emerging trends and technologies in broadcasting and
related media.
This group is intended as a moderated alternative to the existing
newsgroup ba.broadcast. Moderation will be utilized to enforce civil
tone and on-topic content, including rejection of inappropriate
articles, and closing of existing threads if they become sufficiently
uncivil or off-topic. Uncivil tone includes insults, name-calling, and
other ad hominem attacks. Off-topic content includes that not
reasonably related to the practice of broadcasting in the Bay Area. For
example, articles that discuss how a radio host runs his or her show
would be considered on-topic. Articles that are entirely about the
contents of radio or TV shows (except in those instances where the
subject matter is actually about radio or TV) would be considered
off-topic. Such articles should instead be submitted to
alternative forums.
In addition, the following are prohibited:
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* SPAM.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.
* Personal attacks and flames, as defined by the moderation team.
* Links to "objectionable" web content, including pornographic sites,
sites encouraging illegal activities, or sites deemed unacceptable
by the moderation team. The moderation team will cursorily check
the contents of specific links to confirm on-topic content, but
acceptance for posting does not imply endorsement or approval of
the entire present or future contents of that web site.
* Discussion of moderation decisions. See below for information on
appealing moderator action.
Implementation and management of this new newsgroup:
If approved by the readership, the new newsgroup will be created by a
standard, PGP-signed, Usenet newgroup control message sent by the
Bay-Area Managed Hierarchy (ba.*) Administrator, Ron Escheverri:
http://usenet.trigofacile.com/hierarchies/index.py?see=BA
Usenet sites that accept such control messages automatically will create
the newsgroup immediately. Readers at other sites are requested to ask
their local administrators to create the new newsgroup manually after
the newgroup control message is posted. The moderation team will be
available to assist with this.
In order to minimize duplication of articles, and encourage wider
propagation of the new moderated newsgroup, simultaneous crossposting
between ba.broadcast and ba.broadcast.moderated will be encouraged.
Participation in this simultaneous crossposting scheme is completely
voluntary. Posters of initial articles in threads will make the
voluntary choice to add ba.broadcast.moderated and one other unmoderated
newsgroup to the Newsgroups line when posting. Those following up to
these crossposted threads will make a voluntary choice whether to keep
ba.broadcast.moderated or any other newsgroup on the Newsgroups line, or
remove them. Followups may be directed by default to any subset of the
newsgroups on the Newsgroups line (or via E-mail to "poster") by
specifying them on an appropriate Followup-To line. In short, the
readers will control what they post, where they post it, and what
default destinations they want for any followups. This proposed
crossposting scheme does not change any of these long-standing features
of Usenet and newsreader software.
The ba.broadcast.moderated moderation team will use the Secure,
Team-Based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP) to manage the newsgroup:
http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/stump/
To reduce the risks of technical problems and delayed or lost articles
during this proposed newsgroup's startup, the moderation team will set
up initial moderation services at Public-Access Internet and Unix, New
York City (Panix):
for the cost of $100/year. Panix already hosts several other Usenet
newsgroup moderation teams running STUMP. Members of the consultation
team below will assist with this initial installation.
Services in the Bay area were evaluated, but the team felt that they
could not be stood up quickly enough, offer necessary technical features
such as installed software tools and web site hosting like Panix, be
cost-competitive with Panix, be as reliable as Panix, or offer technical
support as responsive as Panix. Starting up at Panix for the first year
will give us 12 months of breathing room, and a reliable backup, while
we continue to seek out and evaluate Bay-area alternatives for
moderation software hosting. Further suggestions about reliable
Unix-shell Internet account services in the Bay area that could meet our
technical requirements and budget would be welcome.
The STUMP robot (or "'bot") will scan all submitted posts. Each post
will be either automatically approved, rejected, or sent to the
moderators for manual review. The moderator 'bot will enforce the
following guidelines:
* Postings must be in plain text. In particular no HTML or mixed text
and HTML posts will be allowed. Messages that are
multipart/alternative will be automatically filtered to pass just
the text/plain version to the newsgroup.
* No binary postings of any sort will be accepted. Exceptions will be
made for cryptographic signatures and such.
* Messages must not continue a thread that has been "closed" by the
moderators.
Individual posters may be temporarily banned for consistently violating
the group charter. Posters who feel that their posts have been unfairly
rejected or banned, either for specific content or by a specific
moderator, may appeal the decision. They may do so by writing the
moderation team at the Administrative Contact address below. The
moderation team will discuss and vote on the appeal and respond within
14 days if the appeal is successful. The moderation team will also
reply within 14 days to unsuccessful submitters of any appeal that is
on-topic, reasoned, civilly stated, and is not substantially an attempt
to revisit the subject matter and arguments of a previous unsuccessful
appeal.
Multiple temporary bans, attempting to circumvent the ban, or abuse of
the appeal system may result in a permanent ban.
Initial Moderation Team:
Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com>
Mark Roberts <bab...@cosmos-monitor.com>
John Higdon <hi...@kome.com>
Temporary Volunteer Moderators:
(These temporary volunteers have agreed to serve for the first 6-12
months of the newsgroup's life, during which time a list of pre-approved
or "white-listed" users will be built based on approved submissions, and
additional moderators will be recruited from the Bay-Area broadcast
community.)
Steve Bonine <s...@pobox.com> (Moderator of news.groups.proposals)
Kathy Morgan <kmo...@aptalaska.net> (Co-Chair of Big-8 Board)
Consultants:
Paul W. Schleck <psch...@novia.net>
Phil Kane <phil...@nov.shmovz.ka.pop>
Article Submissions: ba-broadcas...@panix.com
Administrative Contact: ba-broadcast-mo...@panix.com
Proponent:
Mark Roberts <bab...@cosmos-monitor.com>
Change History:
2009-05-30 1st RFD
2009-06-10 Posted to ba.broadcast and ba.config
2009-06-13 Reposted to ba.broadcast and ba.config due to an effort
by "Colonel Jake", Sergea...@comcast.net, to cancel the post
--
Mark Roberts
Colonel Jake
Mark Roberts <bab...@cosmos-monitor.com>
<news:79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
<79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
:
:
: [Reposting due to an attempt by "Colonel Jake" (purported
: e-mail address: Sergea...@comcast.net, apparently posted
: from databasix.com) to cancel the post. Most news servers have
: stopped honoring cancel messages due to abuse of that function;
: but in the event that there are a few that still do honor it,
: I am reposting the proposal in order to allow all who want to
: comment on the proposal the opportunity to do so.]
So teh FUCK what!,
"Isn't life?!?!?!,...., BITCH!!!..."
*HaHaHa*
:
:
<snipped for brevity>
Should I do it again?,
"Nazi MoTHERFUCKA!!!..."
Maybe?,
"Some others in AUK?!?!?!,...., will send a Control Message
toO Newsfroups: 'ba.config,ba.broadcast' looking like this
in teh Subject field ---->
[CMSG] ba.broadcast.moderated
*HaHaHa*
:
: 2009-06-13 Reposted to ba.broadcast and ba.config due to
: an effort by Colonel Jake <Sergea...@comcast.net>, to
: cancel the post
:
: --
: Mark Roberts
:
<from Teh BoOk of Colonel Jake'ster>
Colonel Jake 3:1 - "Thats for GoDDAMNED sure!!!..."
Colonel Jake
<news:79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
<79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
:
:
: [Reposting due to an attempt by "Colonel Jake" (purported
: e-mail address: Sergea...@comcast.net, apparently posted
: from databasix.com) to cancel the post. Most news servers have
: stopped honoring cancel messages due to abuse of that function;
: but in the event that there are a few that still do honor it,
: I am reposting the proposal in order to allow all who want to
: comment on the proposal the opportunity to do so.]
:
So teh FUCK what!,
"Isn't life?!?!?!,...., a BITCH!!!..."
*HaHaHa*
:
:
<snipped for brevity>
Should I do it again?,
"Nazi MoTHERFUCKAZZ!!!..."
spooge
@blackhelicopter.databasix.com:
>
> Mark Roberts <bab...@cosmos-monitor.com>
> <news:79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
> <79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
>:
>:
>: [Reposting due to an attempt by "Colonel Jake" (purported
>: e-mail address: Sergea...@comcast.net, apparently posted
>: from databasix.com) to cancel the post. Most news servers have
>: stopped honoring cancel messages due to abuse of that function;
>: but in the event that there are a few that still do honor it,
>: I am reposting the proposal in order to allow all who want to
>: comment on the proposal the opportunity to do so.]
>:
>
> So teh FUCK what!,
> "Isn't life?!?!?!,...., BITCH!!!..."
>
> *HaHaHa*
>
>:
>:
>
> <snipped for brevity>
>
> Should I do it again?,
> "Nazi MoTHERFUCKA!!!..."
You really should read the Databasix AUP, dummy.
> Maybe?,
> "Some others in AUK?!?!?!,...., will send a Control Message
> toO Newsfroups: 'ba.config,ba.broadcast' looking like this
> in teh Subject field ---->
>
> [CMSG] ba.broadcast.moderated
>
> *HaHaHa*
>
>:
>: 2009-06-13 Reposted to ba.broadcast and ba.config due to
>: an effort by Colonel Jake <Sergea...@comcast.net>, to
>: cancel the post
>:
>: --
>: Mark Roberts
>:
>
> <from Teh BoOk of Colonel Jake'ster>
>
> Colonel Jake 3:1 - "Thats for GoDDAMNED sure!!!..."
>
>
>
--
Let me say
Pepsi Generation
A few lines
Of misinformation
Watch your money
Flow away oh so quick
To kill yourself properly,
Coke is it
Colonel Jake
spooge <spo...@databasix.com>
<h144lt$nq$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
<news:h144lt$nq$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
:
:
: Colonel Jake <Sergea...@comcast.net>
: <h11jdb$fl2$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
: <news:h11jdb$fl2$1...@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>
: >
: >
: > Mark Roberts <bab...@cosmos-monitor.com>
: > <news:79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
: > <79ianuF...@mid.individual.net>
: >:
: >:
: >: [Reposting due to an attempt by "Colonel Jake" (purported
: >: e-mail address: Sergea...@comcast.net, apparently posted
: >: from databasix.com) to cancel the post. Most news servers have
: >: stopped honoring cancel messages due to abuse of that function;
: >: but in the event that there are a few that still do honor it,
: >: I am reposting the proposal in order to allow all who want to
: >: comment on the proposal the opportunity to do so.]
: >:
: >
: > So teh FUCK what!,
: >
: > *HaHaHa*
: >
: >:
: >:
: >
: > <snipped for brevity>
: >
: > Should I do it again?,
:
: You really should read the Databasix AUP, dummy.
:
Thanks! (spooge),
"Hopefully?!?!?!,...., I'll just get an 'SPNAKING,'
instead of teh 'BoOT!!! (maybe Goddess Kali can save me).' .."
*we will all kneel and bow our heads*
[���xYx���] "Goddess Kali Goddess Of Strength" [���xYx���]
[���xYx���] [���xYx���]
[���xYx���] "Our Divine Goddess Of Usenet" [���xYx���]
[USENET PROCLAMATION]
001 I Colonel Jake do so solemnly swear and take up an oath
002 to never again [CMSG] another USENET message ever
003 (posting through an DataBasix Account), unless of course
004 the message that the 'Control Message' is cancelling out?
005 is an complete forgery.
*in the name of Goddess Kali*
(http://www.coloneljake.com/audios/000A/)
*so be it*
:
: > Maybe?,
:
Dan
>Change History:
>
>2009-05-30 1st RFD
>2009-06-10 Posted to ba.broadcast and ba.config
>2009-06-13 Reposted to ba.broadcast and ba.config due to an effort
> by "Colonel Jake", Sergea...@comcast.net, to cancel the
post
>
>--
>Mark Roberts
FOR, very much FOR
I have been lurking since much prior to "He who must not be named."
I've been satisfied with a free newsreader since my ISP dropped Supernews.
But, I just had to find a way to register my approval for the new group, and
finally found a free usenet server with posting privileges (sorry old school,
just couldn't bring myself to do Google Groups--no offense intended).
The "against" group is testimony as to why this is needed. I can't understand
the logic in the resistance for the mod group, as the malcontents will have
the entire the cat box they've created to post all the off-topic drivel they
want (but who is going to empty it?).
Warm regards to John, Angie and Brian--all of whom I have corresponded with by
email at various times.
And to Mark and the rest involved in creating the new group--Thanks!
Vote registered--I'm back to lurking.
Dan
Stratum101
> I have been lurking since much prior to "He who must not be named."
Is it *moi*, milord?
(Blush)
If only I could work my magic on KGO by telekinesis or something.