Re: ba.broadcast.moderated
Paul W. Schleck
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In <i5svqi$phg$1...@news.eternal-september.org> sfdavi...@yahoo.com (David Kaye) writes:
>dan...@sonic.net (Dan) wrote:
[...]
>However, that's a moot point because Google Groups does not carry
>ba.broadcast.moderated. I just did a search to confirm this and got back this
>message:
>"Cannot find ba.broadcast.moderated
>There is no group named ba.broadcast.moderated. "
Yes, that's still a problem. The solution to this problem is ongoing,
and unfortunately at this point, will be political rather than
technical. I hope to see the political solution implemented sometime
over the next few months.
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Dan
Greetings Paul,
Can you elaborate on how this is now a political rather than technical issue?
More specifically, who is able to resolve this in a 'political' fashion (if
you know)?
Many thanks for your attention.
Dan
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> Can you elaborate on how [getting googlegroups to carry a new moderated loaal Usenet group] is now a political rather than technical issue?
> More specifically, who is able to resolve this in a 'political' fashion (if
> you know)?
>
My guess: Mahmoud Abbas and Binyamin Netanyahu.
Paul W. Schleck
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>Greetings Paul,
>Dan
See today's post to ba.config, and news.admin.hierarchies, for an update
on the political solution to the problem.
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Paul W. Schleck
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>>Greetings Paul,
>>Dan
Well, it took a while (about a year-and-a-half), but Google Groups has
finally added ba.broadcast.moderated. It is available at:
http://groups.google.com/group/ba.broadcast.moderated/topics
for reading, and posting if you have a registered Google Groups account.
This successful outcome was likely a result of one or more of the
following:
- Changing the ba.* hierarchy maintainer and key to those that would
be properly recognized by news sites:
http://www.panix.com/~babm/ba/
- Registering this new maintainer and key in the master control file
maintained by Russ Allbery and periodically downloaded by news
sites:
ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/control.ctl
- Sending out signed checkgroup messages, that included
ba.broadcast.moderated, to the control newsgroup quarterly. The
latest one was posted March 22, 2011, with a Message-ID of:
<13007754...@panix.com>
- Making, and requesting of others, customer service feedback requests
to Google to add the newsgroup, usually after each quarterly
checkgroup message was posted, at the following link:
http://groups.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=groups_feedback
- Encouraging crossposts between ba.broadcast and
ba.broadcast.moderated in order to exceed an article-count threshold
(that Google Groups is rumored to consider when creating a newsgroup
at their site).
So, changing a newsgroup hierarchy maintainer, or getting a newsgroup
created at news sites like Google Groups, is not impossible, but clearly
sometimes takes some long-term strategy and concerted effort.
Thanks to everyone who helped make this happen.
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