Amateurish All Stars
Ekdog
I'm surprised at how unprofessional it was. I'm not referring to the
debaters here, but rather to the the video production. Poor Gene Burns
and Ray Taliaferro: their backs are to the camera during the entire
debate! On second thought, maybe this was intentional... The camera is
focused 90% of the time on Owens and Gross.
Jim
Didn't someone else post almost the same words?
I for one don't give a rip what Gene Burns or Ray
Taliaferro's backsides look like, much less
what they're talking about in an "all star" debate.
A winter day spent somewhere else besides
Winnipeg is good. But a day without KGO
is as good as it gets.
Ekdog
My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
that station.
John Higdon
<391d05ab-301e-4476...@z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Ekdog <olcount...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
> that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
> time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
> participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
> that station.
I not only listened, I went there!
http://homepage.mac.com/johnhigdon/debate/
--
John Higdon
+1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
AT&T-Free At Last
David Kaye
>
>I not only listened, I went there!
I still say that the only real debate worth listening to would pit the KGO
folks against the KSFO staff (assuming that KSFO has any local talkshow hosts
anymore), or barring that, KNEW hosts.
Ekdog
> In article
> <391d05ab-301e-4476-a672-2bff08a55...@z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Ekdog <olcountrylaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
> > that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
> > time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
> > participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
> > that station.
>
> I not only listened, I went there!
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/johnhigdon/debate/
>
> --
> John Higdon
> +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400
> AT&T-Free At Last
Great pics, John! I'd love to go some day, but as I live in Europe,
it's not likely.
Any idea why Wattenberg opted out this time?
Ekdog
I think there's a good enough mix on the KGO staff without bring in
the hate mongers from KSFO. I'd really like to see someone besides Ray
giving the progressive perspective, though. Too bad Bernie's no longer
there. I'd love to see someone like him challenge some of the
assertions made by Rothmann, Owens, Gross, et al.
Jim
> On 6 feb, 00:33, Jim <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 3:30 pm, Ekdog <olcountrylaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I've been watching the latest edition of the KGO All Star debate, and
> > > I'm surprised at how unprofessional it was. I'm not referring to the
> > > debaters here, but rather to the the video production. Poor Gene Burns
> > > and Ray Taliaferro: their backs are to the camera during the entire
> > > debate! On second thought, maybe this was intentional... The camera is
> > > focused 90% of the time on Owens and Gross.
>
> > Didn't someone else post almost the same words?
>
> > I for one don't give a rip what Gene Burns or Ray
> > Taliaferro's backsides look like, much less
> > what they're talking about in an "all star" debate.
>
> > A winter day spent somewhere else besides
> > Winnipeg is good. But a day without KGO
> > is as good as it gets.
>
> My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
> that you don't listen to KGO!
That's right, and I'm not interested in Gene Burns or Ray
Taliaferro's backsides either.
> You have better things to do with your time, of course. Strange,
> though, that you'd take the time to participate in a newsgroup and
> gravitate to any comment made about that station.
Every comment made in this newsgroup is about KGO.
Couldn't you take this to the moderated newsgroup which
is reserved for people with the correct attitude?
Jim
> In article
> <391d05ab-301e-4476-a672-2bff08a55...@z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
> > that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
> > time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
> > participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
> > that station.
>
> I not only listened, I went there!
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/johnhigdon/debate/
>
Boys' night out! It would be crude of me to criticize.
I don't mean to be personal, but where does Eunice go?
Jim
>
> Great pics, John! I'd love to go some day, but as I live in Europe,
> it's not likely.
Cheer up. Maybe some day you'll come to California and
won't seem like an outsider criticizing a native like me
for not being a KGO fan.
You do know that you can walk around San Francisco
where you hear radios playing everywhere and never
hear KGO?
Patty Winter
In article <391d05ab-301e-4476...@z26g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Ekdog <olcount...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
>time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
>participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
>that station.
Jim appears to spend more time thinking about KGO than do people
who actually listen to the station. :-)
Patty
Eric Weaver
This reminds me of a favorite quote of mine
�Beware the politically obsessed. They are often bright and interesting,
but they have something missing in their natures; there is a hole, an
empty place, and they use politics to fill it up. It leaves them somehow
misshapen.� - P. Noonan
The Parallel with Mr. Collier is evident.
And you HD-flame guys, I'm looking at you.
Jay
> On 02/08/2010 07:29 AM, Patty Winter wrote:
>
> > Ekdog<olcountrylaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> My, Jim, what a sophisticated fellow you are! We're all so impressed
> >> that you don't listen to KGO! You have better things to do with your
> >> time, of course. Strange, though, that you'd take the time to
> >> participate in a newsgroup and gravitate to any comment made about
> >> that station.
>
> > Jim appears to spend more time thinking about KGO than do people
> > who actually listen to the station. :-)
>
> This reminds me of a favorite quote of mine
>
> but they have something missing in their natures; there is a hole, an
> empty place, and they use politics to fill it up. It leaves them somehow
Are you a fan of Peggy Noonan?!
Is there anyone on this newsgroup who (a) lives in the Bay Area
or at least California, (b) isn't GLBT, (c) who reads without
moving the lips, (d) recognizes fraudulent inducement,
(e) got along with both parents and doesn't
have special emotional needs in middle age?
> And you HD-flame guys, I'm looking at you.
Well, peek-a-boo. I betcha don't see me.
Patty Winter
In article <1d471fe3-6f7e-4827...@j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Jay <in...@thesitebuilders.us> wrote:
[a bunch of stuff that bore no relation to Eric's previous posting]
What's with the nym change, Jim? Time to update my killfile...
Patty
Jim
> In article <1d471fe3-6f7e-4827-a5df-cf9ec5bc6...@j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Jay <i...@thesitebuilders.us> wrote:
>
> [a bunch of stuff that bore no relation to Eric's previous posting]
I answered him straight on. KGO fans are misfits.
> What's with the nym change, Jim? Time to update my killfile...
Pattycakes, that was not an attempt to trick you into
responding to my post. You already scrutinize my posts
with a magnifying glass and a mirror.
God, it's freezing here, and dark and rainy. One good thing
you can say about a place with a winter is that you
get work done.
Your pal Jimbo, Jay, whatver
on the road.
Ciccio
> God, it's freezing here, and dark and rainy. One good thing
> you can say about a place with a winter is that you
> get work done.
Speaking of cold... Man, how about that freezing cold in DC...Boy
Wonder's approval rating is dipping below 50, Brrrrrr!
Ciccio
John Higdon
<21a39ff7-510d-4418...@l26g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Ekdog <olcount...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any idea why Wattenberg opted out this time?
This round only included the regular weekday hosts.
Jim
He's only right. That's the nature of democracy. The collective
electorate like the individual customer is never wrong. Obama
came into office with a list of backbreaking problems, and
a year into the project, isn't going to satisfy everybody.
But I don't think his Republican opposition is in any
better shape with people like Sarah Palin "threatening"
to run. He writes his own books; she does not. He
has brains; she has showmanship. His supporters
snicker at her; her supporters apologize for her
at the outset of expressions of support.
The class valedictorian is seldom the class
clown.
David Kaye
>�Beware the politically obsessed. They are often bright and interesting,
>but they have something missing in their natures; there is a hole, an
>empty place, and they use politics to fill it up. It leaves them somehow
>misshapen.� - P. Noonan
All my life I have been a community organizer, starting groups and putting on
events designed to get people to meet each other. One thing I've learned is
that technology has a way of separating people, not bringing them together.
So many of those folks who lash out simply do not have the social skills to
create a more pleasant life for themselves.
Jim
> Eric Weaver <w...@sigma.net> wrote:
> >“Beware the politically obsessed. They are often bright and interesting,
> >but they have something missing in their natures; there is a hole, an
> >empty place, and they use politics to fill it up. It leaves them somehow
> >misshapen.” - P. Noonan
Ronnie's speechwriter again?!
>
> All my life I have been a community organizer, starting groups and putting on
> events designed to get people to meet each other. One thing I've learned is
> that technology has a way of separating people, not bringing them together.
> So many of those folks who lash out simply do not have the social skills to
> create a more pleasant life for themselves.
Heh. Well, you've certainly achieved champion status in
Usenet posting, but yipers!, do you really want to cite the authority
of the blessed Peggy Noonan?
Say, do you listen to KGO much?
Ciccio
> On Feb 8, 10:51 am, Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 8, 8:32 am, Jim <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>
> > > God, it's freezing here, and dark and rainy. One good thing
> > > you can say about a place with a winter is that you
> > > get work done.
>
> > Speaking of cold... Man, how about that freezing cold in DC...Boy
> > Wonder's approval rating is dipping below 50, Brrrrrr!
>
> He's only right. That's the nature of democracy. The collective
> electorate like the individual customer is never wrong. Obama
> came into office with a list of backbreaking problems, and
> a year into the project, isn't going to satisfy everybody.
Heh. Less than half is wayyyyy less than "everybody."
> But I don't think his Republican opposition is in any
> better shape with people like Sarah Palin "threatening"
She's a wonderful woman who is fun to watch and listen to. That said,
what is it with you liberals? For the past eight months, it has been
what the Republicans "were" or what the Republicans "will be," but not
what Boy Wonder and the Democrats ARE doing or not doing.
Ciccio
David Kaye
>
>Heh. Less than half is wayyyyy less than "everybody."
But Obama's rating is not as low as Ronald Reagan's was at the start of his
second year, nor of George W. Bush's rating.
Ciccio
BzzzzzT! Wrong!!! George W. Bush's approval rating at the start of his
second year of his first term was about 85%!!! But so what? That was
THEN, this is NOW. Reagan is NOT the president. Bush is NOT the
president. Nobody but Obama IS the president and he is doing a piss
poor job of it. My Gawd, he had a SUPER majority and he still couldn't
bring it home. That is one of the worse cases of political
ineptitude...Bad show Boy Wonder.
Ciccio
David Kaye
>My Gawd, he had a SUPER majority and he still couldn't
>bring it home. That is one of the worse cases of political
>ineptitude...Bad show Boy Wonder.
This is the problem with NOT electing a political insider. This is a clear
reason NOT to elect Meg Whitman as governor. She should run for water board,
then maybe school board, city council, and then a statewide office, and only
THEN consider running for governor.
American voters are, for the most part, stupid. They elect outsiders like
Jesse Ventura and Arnold Schwarzeneggar to office and then wonder why they
can't get anything done for the first 2 years they're in office.
If I were to suggest anybody to run for president I'd have suggested Dianne
Feinstein, or better yet, Willie Brown. They're insiders who know where all
the skeletons are, and they're smart enough to bring together compromises
without bruising egos.
Jim
> American voters are, for the most part, stupid.
Oh, shut up.
leansto...@democrat.com
Oh please, not Willie Brown for POTUS. I do think he is the scoundrel
you need for governor, but it shouldn't have to be that way.
Have you noticed Meg is using louder music in her latest spot (the
tried and true welfare one)? I'm sure there is some seven figure
consultant behind the change. We need a new Vance Packard, but the
world is more concerned about Howard Stern joining American Idle
(sic).
Jim
You can take solace that the Democratic caucus 20-vote
plurality in the Senate has decreased to only 19. But in the
end, Palin who couldn't even finish one term as governor, is
completely unqualified to talk about running for the White
House. When you're president, you can't turn chicken at
your first crisis. Obama came into office with a list of crises.
Her very presence only serves to highlight this fact.
If the Teabaggers, birthers, and nutjobs want to regain
control of the GOP, who am I to stand in their way?!
Ciccio
> You can take solace that the Democratic caucus 20-vote
> plurality in the Senate has decreased to only 19. But in the
> end, Palin who couldn't even finish one term as governor,
"Couldn't" is a big overstatement. Even assuming arugendo, however,
that she "couldn't," that is completely irrelevant to Obama being a
very inept president. Boy Wonder had a SUPER MAJORITY, and he couldn't
bring it home...Bad Show!!!
[more irrelevant yammer about Palin snipped]
> Obama came into office with a list of crises.
Boy Wonder knew all about that when he asked to be president. Boy
Wonder knew all about that when he promised he'd be an effective
president and resolve the crisis...People are hip to his bullshit.
> If the Teabaggers, birthers, and nutjobs want to regain
> control of the GOP, who am I to stand in their way?!
As if you could stand in the way. In any case, if the Democrats keep
failing the American people, then, I guess, the nut jobs it will
be...Just remember Boy Wonder is the blame.
Ciccio
Jim
> On Feb 9, 3:06 pm, Jim <j.coll...@cross-comp.com> wrote:
>
> > You can take solace that the Democratic caucus 20-vote
> > plurality in the Senate has decreased to only 19. But in the
> > end, Palin who couldn't even finish one term as governor,
>
> "Couldn't" is a big overstatement. Even assuming arugendo, however,
> that she "couldn't," that is completely irrelevant to Obama being a
> very inept president.
Yes, she *could* have, but she had better things to do than
play governor all day, just as she had better things to do
than spending days writing a book.
It's pointless beyond this to talk of her as presidential
material. Sarah Palin is gutless; she has no
integrity. In a White House crisis, she'll fold.
There are no shortcuts at the place where the buck
stops.
If you can't see that, then argue with yourself.
She's ridiculous, and never mind that she's a
demagogue to boot.
--
After this, folks, Ciccio will be arguing with himself
about Sarah Palin's suitability to hold high office.
I mean high office like Chief Dogcatcher of
one of the Alaska boroughs, and not -- dear
God in heaven -- the office of president.
Ciccio
> Yes, she *could* have, but she had better things to do than
> play governor all day, just as she had better things to do
> than spending days writing a book.
Heh. Like making millions of dollars...works for me.
> It's pointless beyond this to talk of her as presidential
> material.
Yet, you keep doing it. Of course, it's a feeble attempt to divert
from the dismal job Boy Wonder is doing.
> If you can't see that, then argue with yourself.
Nothing to argue about as to Palin...I am merely observing how inept
OBAMA is. Now, if somehow, you leap to the erroneous conclusion that
is an endorsement for Palin to be president, then you are just plain
stupid. Obama is falling on his own. No Bush, No Palin, No
Clinton...Obama IS the president doing the piss poor job.
> She's ridiculous, and never mind that she's a
> demagogue to boot.
I can see how your obsession with Palin aids you in sustaining your
state of denial about how Obama duped you. Oh well, I guess it's
cheaper than getting drunk.
Ciccio
David Kaye
rightwinger Rupert Murdock, no less) reports that Sarah Palin was paid
$100,000 to speak at that rally the other day. I wonder who paid her.
That teabagger thing doesn't sound like grass roots organizing to me.
Meanwhile, back to broadcasting...
Ciccio
> While we're on the off-topic of Palin, today's Wall Street Journal (owned by
> rightwinger Rupert Murdock, no less) reports that Sarah Palin was paid
> $100,000 to speak at that rally the other day.
I know, she is absolutely marvelous how she took the most bitter
lemons thrown at her and turned them into the most luscious lemonade.
She's made millions. Brava! to her. She's even surpassed John Madden
in capitalizing on that folksy "Aw shucks, I'd rather watch sports
than read a book" routine.
Like Madden, when faced with adversities, she has an uncanny ability
to adapt, improvise, and overcome them. She comes out smelling like a
rose, when mere mortals would come out smelling like shit. Such is the
most neutral and valid test to measure innate intelligence and she,
obviously, scores in, at least, the category of genius.
Ciccio
David Kaye
>I know, she is absolutely marvelous how she took the most bitter
>lemons thrown at her and turned them into the most luscious lemonade.
The point is that she's been portrayed among talkshow hosts and on newscasts
as some sort of grass roots leader when, in fact, she was paid $100,000 to do
that speech. That's not a grassroots effort at all. That's behind the scenes
orchestration. Who's behind Sarah Palin? Lyndon LaRouche? Rupert Murdock?
Reverend Sun Myung Moon? The Unification Church?
Ciccio
> Ciccio <frances...@comcast.net> wrote:
> The point is that she's been portrayed among talkshow hosts and on newscasts
> as some sort of grass roots leader when, in fact, she was paid $100,000 to do
> that speech.
So, she has it's a "portrayal" like so many celebrities who cash in on
such. That's all she is...a celebrity. She's not a holder of any
public office. That grass roots portrayal is all part of the "folksy"
persona she's cashing in on. So, again to Palin, a well deserved
Brava!
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
Yes, the GOP deserves that half-term governor twit. In fact, she is
the best the GOP has to offer.
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> Yes, the GOP deserves that half-term governor twit. In fact, she is
> the best the GOP has to offer.
The GOP has to offer? She holds no office. She has not announced her
candidacy for any office.
The Democrats most certainly deserves empty suit Boy Wonder, with his
most dismal performance. In fact, he is the best the Democrats have to
offer.
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
There are no GOP office holders at the caliber of Palin. She is the
best the party has to offer.
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> There are no GOP office holders at the caliber of Palin. She is the
> best the party has to offer.
Hello? She is not a candidate for any office.
Heh. This morning, you should have heard your hero Ray T toast the
holy shit out of the best the Democrats have to offer. Here are just a
few of his gems....Obama is a coward. Bush was a better president.
Obama is a horrible president. Obama has no balls. Obama is a HUGE
disappointment. Obama is as effective as a junior senator. Then he did
some funny bits mocking Obama. Not to mention the many callers who
agreed with what Ray T was saying, who said they had voted for Boy
Wonder...
Ciccio