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dx

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Mar 15, 1995, 9:08:53 AM3/15/95
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mvs <m...@calon.com>...

> When I was a wee babe, I remember Channel 36 was called "The Perfect 36".
> Is my memory correct that Carol Doda did the station ids? If anyone
> remembers more about those days than I do and can describe what the
> programming was like, let me know

Actually, she read the station editorials on short segments called
"Viewpoint." She would read them in a breathy Marilyn Monroe type of voice.

My favorite program on channel 36 at that time was the overnight "MMM Movie
Til' Dawn." It competed head-to-head with Jay Brown's "All-Night Movie
Go-Round" on Channel 11.

Just a-watchin' that price slasher a-hackin' and a-hewin' at that dollar sign,

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KPIX

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Mar 15, 1995, 11:35:00 AM3/15/95
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<<Heh...if Howard Beale had been on KGSC I would have watched night and
day!>>

Here's more Carol Doda trivia than you ever wanted to read: In her
pre-Condor days, Carol was a waitress in North Beach. Her co-worker and
roommate was a woman who finally decided to move to Los Angeles in search
of a better life. The woman talked her way into a job reporting afternoon
traffic and assumed the name "Eve O'Day." (Yes, the morning reporter was
named "Dawn O'Day.") Later, "Eve" talked her way into a TV weathercaster
job (after hiding in the studio overnight to secretly practice reading
weather information which had to be written backwards on glass in front of
the camera.) She eventually worked her way into reporting and anchoring...
and she is now known throughout Southern California as Kelly Lange,
anchorwoman of KNBC's #1-rated 11pm news.

As Paul Harvey would say... "and NOW you know the rrrrrrrest of the
story!."

Tony Russomanno
KPIX-TV

John Higdon

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Mar 15, 1995, 1:40:25 PM3/15/95
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In article <dxD5H...@netcom.com> d...@netcom.com (dx) writes:

>My favorite program on channel 36 at that time was the overnight "MMM Movie
>Til' Dawn." It competed head-to-head with Jay Brown's "All-Night Movie
>Go-Round" on Channel 11.

Remember, J. Brown (not "Jay"; he was quite insistent on that point)
started out on 36. The move to 11 was at a time that both J. and KNTV
decided to become "bigger time". KNTV went twenty-four hours; Brown
migrated to VHF. He did take his entire schtick with him, however.

This all came about at a time when ABC's "In Concert" was going great
guns and I had to personally supervise the synchronized tape at KOME
every other week on a Friday night. Talk about giving up your life for
broadcasting!

Technology has come a long way since then--thank gawd!

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Len Freedman

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Mar 15, 1995, 12:38:20 PM3/15/95
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John Higdon (jo...@zygot.ati.com) wrote:
: In article <D5Ew5...@nbn.com> m...@calon.com (mvs) writes:

: One of the cornerstones of the early 36 was the "All Night Movies" that
: were sponsored by Spartan Dodge. The commercials were delivered (and
: the movies were hosted) by J. Brown. A sleazy cartoon character, "the
: Price Slasher" would dart by at the bottom of the screen while Brown
: was hawking the cars. It was positively great.

I hadn't thought about Jay Brown and the Price Slasher for years! It was
the only thin on in the middle of the night, and you're right, it was
deliciously sleazy and lowbrow. Jay Brown had a collection of
owls--posters, figurines, candles, etc. His theme was Classical Gas, and
he'd come on in the breaks and talk to all his 'night people' in between
selling cars.

: After Brown was hauled away for unknown frauds, MMM Carpets took over
: the all night movies. O

Ah yes. Remember Bascom Avenue and Race Street? Remember the Old
Sourdough and Watchitonoka? They started out really good, with accents
and characters. Then after six months or so you could see they were
getting really bored with it and they would just sort of adlib and watch
themselves on the monitors.

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David A. Kaye

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Mar 15, 1995, 10:10:28 PM3/15/95
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KPIX wrote:

: job (after hiding in the studio overnight to secretly practice reading


: weather information which had to be written backwards on glass in front of
: the camera.)

Uh...when was weather info written backwards? The only situation I
remember was Linda Richard on KRON, but she wrote forwards and the scan
was flipped, which explains why she looked different on rare occasions
when she was sitting with the anchor. You're saying there was another
woman doing weather and that she was writing backwards?

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Ray LaBarbera

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Mar 16, 1995, 1:27:42 AM3/16/95
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In <3k64ba$4...@crl3.crl.com> d...@crl.com (David A. Kaye) writes:


>
>The Old Sourdough and Chief Watanabe or whatever (who is still the guy
>behind the MMM Carpet ads even today). Ahhh...memories.
>
It was Chief Watcheekanoka (phonetic spelling) What great memories is
right. Just why is it that we can't get those great old cheesy movies
at night anymore. Movies till Dawn was the greatest. I looked forward
to summer just so I could literally watch "movies till dawn". What ever
happened to those great old flix. I remember a Wheeler and Woolsey film
there.


KPIX

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Mar 16, 1995, 4:07:19 AM3/16/95
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<<Uh...when was weather info written backwards? >>

That was way before my time. The way it was described to me, a map was
painted on a large glass panel, which was placed between the camera and
the person doing the weather... who wrote and read weather information
backwards from behind the glass. Doesn't make much sense to me, either,
but that's how I was told it was done.

Tony Russomanno
KPIX-TV

David A. Kaye

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Mar 16, 1995, 10:51:03 PM3/16/95
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Ray LaBarbera wrote:

: right. Just why is it that we can't get those great old cheesy movies

: at night anymore. Movies till Dawn was the greatest.

Because some people discovered that people really DO want to see them, so
they now sell them as "American Movie Classics", "A&E", "The Movie
Channel", etc. The backers of the old Prop 14 (the anti-pay TV ballot
measure years ago) were right: with pay-TV all the good stuff would go on
pay-TV and only junk would be left on free TV.

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David A. Kaye

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Mar 16, 1995, 10:54:24 PM3/16/95
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KPIX wrote:

: That was way before my time. The way it was described to me, a map was


: painted on a large glass panel, which was placed between the camera and
: the person doing the weather... who wrote and read weather information
: backwards from behind the glass.

Before your time? Gosh, I didn't think you were a pup. You sound as old
as me on-air. Anyhow, I think this is what KRON wanted people to believe.
And Linda Richard was often asked about her "ability" to write backward.
From what I gather, official policy was to keep it a big secret. However,
when KRON finally broke down and replaced their cameras, flipping the
horizontal sweep was no longer easy, so they abandoned the idea...and her.

Rick Calicura

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Mar 16, 1995, 6:13:29 PM3/16/95
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Tony Russomano wrote:
Here's more Carol Doda trivia than you ever wanted to read: In her
pre-Condor days, Carol was a waitress in North Beach. Her co-worker and
roommate was a woman who finally decided to move to Los Angeles in search
of a better life. The woman talked her way into a job reporting afternoon
traffic and assumed the name "Eve O'Day." (Yes, the morning reporter was
named "Dawn O'Day.") Later, "Eve" talked her way into a TV weathercaster
job (after hiding in the studio overnight to secretly practice reading
weather information which had to be written backwards on glass in front of
the camera.) She eventually worked her way into reporting and anchoring...
and she is now known throughout Southern California as Kelly Lange,
anchorwoman of KNBC's #1-rated 11pm news.

Hey, Tony, thanks for the info. I remember listening to those two gals on
KABC with an announcer of the old school "Patrick Aloysius McGinnis" who
always pronounced Wednesday as "WED NEZ DAY". He had a lot of style and I
often wondered what ever became of him. Incidentally, do you remember that
Alan Dale the "correspondent" used to be a country western DJ in LA on KLAC?


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Mar 17, 1995, 1:30:32 AM3/17/95
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In article <3kb0v7$3...@crl12.crl.com> d...@crl.com (David A. Kaye) writes:

>The backers of the old Prop 14 (the anti-pay TV ballot
>measure years ago) were right: with pay-TV all the good stuff would go on
>pay-TV and only junk would be left on free TV.

At least there is somewhere for all the "good stuff" to go. It is a
logic leap to assume that the "good stuff" would have remained on free
TV with or without pay TV.

KPIX

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Mar 17, 1995, 11:32:14 AM3/17/95
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<<Incidentally, do you remember that
Alan Dale the "correspondent" used to be a country western DJ in LA on
KLAC?>>

I don't, but someone else around here will probably help you. I worked in
LA for only one day-- drove down from Santa Barbara some years ago for
what was supposed to have been an easy fill-in shift at the then-king of
the Top 40 rockers, KHJ Radio. Half an hour after I sat down in the
newsroom, Elvis Presley dropped dead.

Tony Russomanno
KPIX

Randy Phillips

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Mar 17, 1995, 3:27:18 PM3/17/95
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jo...@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon) wrote:

>In article <D5Ew5...@nbn.com> m...@calon.com (mvs) writes:


>One of the cornerstones of the early 36 was the "All Night Movies" that were sponsored by Spartan Dodge.

J. may have ended up on 36, but the 'All Night Movie Go Round'
sponsored by Spartan Dodge (and J. Brown) was on channel 11 in '74 and
'75 .

Jeff M Lodoen

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Mar 18, 1995, 6:02:22 PM3/18/95
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Since this subject has already mutated to other UHF
stations...

What happened to KSTS 48 and KTSF 26? When did they start
and what kind of programming have they run over the years?

48 is all Spanish language now. 26 usually Chinese
sometimes Middle Eastern... But they used to be far
different.

When we moved here in 1981, I recall 48 aired only
a few hours per day. Later they started rebroadcasting
FNN (Financial News Network) and Score! (sports news)

jlo...@shell.portal.com
(who remembers Gillcable, with channels 3 and 40)

Rick Calicura

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Mar 19, 1995, 4:21:43 PM3/19/95
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Channel 26 has had several starts. One of the earliest was a scrambled
broadcast where you would subscribe and rent a decoder to see movies. There
were even skin flicks. It went under the name of Star TV. Channel 48 started
out as a Spanish station as I recall.

Incidentally both 48 and 36 put out a tremendous signal that is receivable
even in Northern Contra Costa County with little more than rabbit ears.
Channel 54 is quite weak even with a pretty large array with a preamplifier
at the antenna head. Of course all the SF UHFers are not receivable at all in
Contra Costa County (Central and Eastern) with an antenna. (in case you cared
<g>).

babe...@gmail.com

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Aug 12, 2018, 2:03:05 AM8/12/18
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Yes, Carol Doda was often seen on Channel 36. As a young teenager, I can't remember a word she said. The Old Sourdough Show was one of my favorites. I watched the entire Flash Gordon series of shorts on the show.
J.Brown from Spartan Dodge and the Price Slasher (Hackin' and a hewin')!
Bob Wilkins....R.I.P. I loved Creature Features. I watched "The Night of the Living Dead" on Creature Features and it freaked me out bad. The reincarnation isn't bad, but it lacks the magic.Marty Sherman and George, from the Sawmill. George, from the Diamond Center. You might remember these guys.
Does anyone remember seeing a similar show: "The Ghoul"?
Why isn't Roller Derby televised anymore? Those Bay City Bombers rocked.
We lived in a wonderful age of television in the bay area. I guess it's just a memory like drive-in movies.
Jim T. Petaluma

James Duncan

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Aug 12, 2018, 1:24:23 PM8/12/18
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Certainly was a completely different time TV wise. I watched "Right
On!" on channel 36, a sort of improvisational local talent show. I
wrote a comments letter about that program to the station, and they
invited me to be on the show, which I was chicken to do.

Nowadays, I've been a cord cutter for years and never watch TV - way
too full of formularized, focus group backed drivel and way too many
ad spots. No fun at all. Buh bye TV....

Ciccio

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Aug 12, 2018, 5:09:01 PM8/12/18
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On 8/11/2018 11:03 PM, babe...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes, Carol Doda was often seen on Channel 36. As a young teenager, I can't remember a word she said.

"Young teenager?" Hate to mess up a wet dream, but she was about a
perfect 36-years-old when she did those bumpers. . ."You're watching the
'Perfect 36' in San Jose."

Ciccio
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Phil Kane

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Aug 12, 2018, 8:42:17 PM8/12/18
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On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 23:03:04 -0700 (PDT), babe...@gmail.com wrote:

>Why isn't Roller Derby televised anymore? Those Bay City Bombers rocked.

Is roller derby still alive?

Phil Kane
Beaverton, OR

Julian Macassey

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Aug 12, 2018, 9:33:24 PM8/12/18
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It is in Portland:

https://www.rosecityrollers.com/




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Ciccio

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Aug 13, 2018, 1:18:47 AM8/13/18
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Hell yes. In the BA in SF, SJ, even the capitol of the lefty
intelligentsia Berzerkeley has it, as does Berzerkeley Jr. Santa Cruz,
albeit good bang-for-the-buck proletariat entertainment.

Ciccio
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Aug 13, 2018, 10:30:59 AM8/13/18
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On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:42:14 -0700, Phil Kane
<Phil...@nov.shmovz.ka.pop> wrote:

>Is roller derby still alive?
>Phil Kane
>Beaverton, OR

Alive and well in the People's Republic of Santa Cruz:
<http://www.santacruzderbygirls.org>

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