Pat Thurston Is Clueless
Ciccio
commenting on Pat Thurston's opinions. That said, I tuned in to the
last 20 minutes of the first hour of Ronn's show and found Thurston
"guest" hosting. She then asked a caller, from Monte Sereno, ..."Where
is Monte Sereno?" I haven't heard anything so provincially clueless
from a KGO host since David Gold. Thurston, however, is purportedly
"from" the BA??? Anyhow, with that I tuned to another station.
Ciccio
BayAreaBroadcast
Most people from S.F. wouldn't know where it was.
It's no biggie.
David Kaye
>Most people from S.F. wouldn't know where it was.
>It's no biggie.
I'm an amateur California historian and I can't tell you exactly where Monte
Sereno is, either. I can tell you where Weott, Dorris, Bumpass Hell,
Drawbridge, and Likely are. My best guess without looking it up is that Monte
Sereno is in the Santa Cruz Mountains somewhere.
There are lots of geographic anomalies, misunderstandings, problems, goofs,
etc., around here. For instance, some people don't know the difference
between Mountain View and Mountain House, between San Marin and San Martin,
between the city of Brentwood and the Los Angeles district called Brentwood.
I remember some years ago trying to reach the then non-dialing phone at the
general store in San Gregorio. I had to go through the telephone operator.
The operator asked me if San Gregorio was in the West Indies! The TSPS unit
was in Oakland, so I assume that the operator lived in or near Oakland as
well.
gvk2
She then asked a caller, from Monte Sereno, ..."Where
> is Monte Sereno?" I haven't heard anything so provincially clueless
> from a KGO host since David Gold. Thurston, however, is purportedly
> "from" the BA???
While I agree that on many issues, Pat Thurston is "clueless" in her
approach to the facts, I won't fault her on the "Monte Sereno" item.
I've lived in the Bay Area most of my life and even had one job that
was driving the entire Bay Area from Gilroy to Santa Rosa, including
many trips to Los Gatos and Saratoga, and I would not have been able
to pin point Monte Sereno.
I would compare asking someone from the North Bay about Monte Sereno,
to asking someone from Monte Sereno about Forest Knolls or Knowles
Corner in the north.
When is the last time there was a drive-by shooting in Monte
Sereno? Monte Sereno, 1.56 square miles. 4,000 people.
They don't even have their own police department.
The only thing of note about Monte Sereno is their private 110 acre
vegan-nudist commune which makes up 470 of the town's nearly 4,000
people.
On Google Earth, at the highest magnification, you can see dozens of
people walking around naked, tending their vegetable gardens.
gvk2
> For instance, some people don't know the difference
> between Mountain View and Mountain House,
>
Oh that one is easy. Mountain house has a biker bar, while Mountain
View has a biker bar. However you can only wear spandex in one of
them.
Oh, BTW, they both welcome gay men, or so I'm told.
John Higdon
sfdavi...@yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote:
> My best guess without looking it up is that
> Monte
> Sereno is in the Santa Cruz Mountains somewhere.
I refer to it as the upscale suburb of Los Gatos (found along the road
to Saratoga).
> There are lots of geographic anomalies, misunderstandings, problems, goofs,
> etc., around here. For instance, some people don't know the difference
> between Mountain View and Mountain House, between San Marin and San Martin,
> between the city of Brentwood and the Los Angeles district called Brentwood.
Don't forget Burbank, one of the last remaining unincorporated holdouts
in the middle of San Jose.
--
John Higdon
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Ciccio
wrote:
> Most people from S.F. wouldn't know where it was.
Heh. Considering that about 40% are foreign born, and then throw in
the transplants from other states, that's not saying much.
> It's no biggie.
For somebody from the BA and a *local* talk show host, it's pretty
bad.
Ciccio
Ciccio
> I'm an amateur California historian and I can't tell you exactly where Monte
> Sereno is, either.
That's understandable because you're an "amateur."
Ciccio
Ciccio
> I would compare asking someone from the North Bay about Monte Sereno,
> to asking someone from Monte Sereno about Forest Knolls or Knowles
> Corner in the north.
Those are unincorporated rural areas in the middle of nowhere. Monte
Sereno has been incorporated for about 50 years and is a stone's throw
from the largest city in the BA. If, however, you want to accept
such local geographic ignorance as the standard, then so be it. It
goes hand in hand with Americans' overall geographic ignorance, with
our schools producing students, 50% of whom, cannot find New York on a
map.
Ciccio
gvk2
> Those are unincorporated rural areas in the middle of nowhere. Monte
> Sereno has been incorporated for about 50 years and is a stone's throw
> from the largest city in the BA. If, however, you want to accept
> such local geographic ignorance as the standard, then so be it.
A stones throw from San Jose... absurd. There is no reason why anyone
going to San Jose would ever go to Monte Sereno. No connection at
all. Santa Clara is a stones throw away, not Monte Sereno.
I will put my familiarity with worldwide geography up against
anyone's.
As I said, in a job I had from 1987 to 1989, I was on the road all
over the Bay Area 200 days per year. Driving many times to Los Gatos
and Saratoga as well as to every corner of the SF Bay Area but never
to Monte Sereno because there is NOTHING there.
You seem to overlook the following...as one web site states...
"Within Monte Sereno's 1000-acre city limits are single-family homes
exclusively. There are no shopping centers, no restaurants, no gas
stations. There are no sidewalks and few streetlights. There are no
grandiose public buildings"
There is only one elementary school.
There is no reason for anyone to go there, unless they live there.
For all practical purposes there is NO there there.
It makes a quiet place like Moraga look like huge center of commerce.
John Higdon
<92f9e41d-ca59-4924...@f20g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
gvk2 <gvk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Within Monte Sereno's 1000-acre city limits are single-family homes
> exclusively. There are no shopping centers, no restaurants, no gas
> stations. There are no sidewalks and few streetlights. There are no
> grandiose public buildings"
> There is only one elementary school.
The telephones are served out of the Los Gatos office, with Los Gatos
prefixes.
> There is no reason for anyone to go there, unless they live there.
> For all practical purposes there is NO there there.
A lot of people drive past on Hwy 9.
leansto...@democrat.com
Moraga has Saint Marys. This is hardly a fair comparison.
It's hardly fair to judge Pat because she doesn't know of some
insignificant podunk town.
I think more people know where Dogtown is located than Monte Sereno.
Ciccio
> A stones throw from San Jose... absurd.
It's no more than a few miles.
>There is no reason why anyone going to San Jose would ever go to Monte Sereno.
There are many places that I've never gone to, but I know generally
where they are. To not know that Monte Sereno is somewhere in the
South Bay or, at least, somewhere in the BA, is pretty lame.
> over the Bay Area 200 days per year. Driving many times to Los Gatos
> and Saratoga as well as to every corner of the SF Bay Area but never
> to Monte Sereno because there is NOTHING there.
It's not a matter of going there. It's a matter of just KNOWING about
it. Are you saying that until I posted here today, that you had NEVER
HEARD of Monte Sereno? My criticism of Thurston is that she was
CLUELESS that Monte Sereno was even in the Bay Area. After the caller
told her where it was, she said: "Oh, so it's local." It's one thing
for people to be dumb and unable to pick out New York on a map. It's a
whole other level of being clueless when somebody doesn't know it's "
somewhere back east."
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
Monte Sereno is of no significance.
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> Monte Sereno is of no significance.
So are many other places in the BA. However, not knowing, at least,
that they are located in the BA is still pretty lame. Especially when
one is suppose to part of the "Bay Area Scene" like a BA talk show
host.
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
Nobody cares about Monte Sereno, thus who cares that Pat doesn't know
the insignificant town. A neighborhood in San Francisco is more
significant than Monte Sereno. There are probably more homeless people
in Golden Gate Park at night than live in Monte Sereno. Any large mall
has more people in it than Monte Sereno. Even Sunol is more
significant than Monte Sereno. Sunol probably has less people. but it
is world famous due Bosco, the late mayor.
Bim Bom
BayAreaBroadcast wrote:
> Most people from S.F. wouldn't know where it was.
> It's no biggie.
HOWEVER, we are dealing with high-salaried employees
who tout themselves as a mental-class above everyone else,
acting like annoying, terribly opinionated "experts", who
have radio shows at KGO [am], who should definately give
a flying-phuck about what incorporated cities are in their
listening audience / the greater S.F. bay area.
Really though, how monumentally stupid and insulting
to those areas publicly neglected, admittedly so,
by Thurston.
Speaking of Pat Thurston -
Does anyone know if the Pat's family (husband ?) line,
goes back to Hawaii ?
Because, like a sore-thumb, I saw/see the name
Thurston and I immediately think of :
Hawaii's Story
by
Hawaii's Queen
Liliuokalani
ISBN - 0-8048-1066-4 [1898]
---> Page 386
" At about five p.m.,(1/16/1893), however,
the troops from the United States ship Boston
were landed, by the order of the United States
ministers, J.L. Stevens, in secret
understanding
with the revolutionary party,
who's names are L.A. Thurston, ...."
If Pat Thurston is married, thus taking the surname of her spouse,
then it is alarming to think that the person Pat Thurston lives
with
is actually from a family-line of evil conspiring people.
It obviously runs in the family.
More offspring - Bad Seed ------> Pat Thurston
who works at ABC (Capital Cities C.I.A.). Pat Thurston is
making sure that her genetic-malformation family-line is yet
again tarnished, with her collusion with treacherous individuals
and organization, that being KGO 810 [am], which is in all
actuality Capital Cities ABC & the all important C.I.A.
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Thurston is just plain stupid
What else could you expect from Capital Cities [C.I.A.]
KGO 810 [am] & KGO TV 7
Bim Bom
gvk2 wrote :
> I've lived in the Bay Area most of my life and even had one job that
> was driving the entire Bay Area from Gilroy to Santa Rosa, including
> many trips to Los Gatos and Saratoga, and I would not have been able
> to pin point Monte Sereno.
Wow,
Ya know what they say about women and directions (maps).
gvk2, are you a woman or a "man" ?
I would like to know.
It's amusing, how you claim - "many trips", to the region,
and haven't found-out where Monte Sereno is ?
> On Google Earth, at the highest magnification, you can see dozens of
> people walking around naked, tending their vegetable gardens.
Hey jerk, your mind is in the gutter, of Monte Sereno.
Is that the only thing you can offer the world ?
Besides the jabs and insults of a natural community
of talented famous people ------> Monte Sereno.
Bim Bom
gvk2 wrote:
> A stones throw from San Jose... absurd. There is no reason why anyone
> going to San Jose would ever go to Monte Sereno. No connection at
> all. Santa Clara is a stones throw away, not Monte Sereno.
NO !
gvk2 ------> YOU *are* ABSURD !
Anyone with a brain, can see the map of San Jose's city
boundary / line. Like an enveloping pinchers
(Germany / borders surrounding Czechoslavakia)
the City of San Jose's boundaries / line comes into
Saratoge, UP AGAINST MONTE SERENO
and up against Los Gatos. The Blob (San Jose)
even has tentacles in Cupertino, Cal.
I & I, do not know
WHAT THE FUCK PLANET YOU ARE FROM gvk2.
How dare you come into this newsgroup and publicly
profess your publicly professed bluster of complete
arrogant "know-it-all" crap.
Lies !
Santa Clara ------> IS NOT A "stone's throw away".
Once again, you appear to be completely out of your
mind. Look at the map, damn it, look at it,
you complete boob !
" You Big Dummy "
> I will put my familiarity with worldwide geography up against
> anyone's.
No,
you are a fucking idiot !
> Driving many times to Los Gatos
> and Saratoga as well as to every corner of the SF Bay Area but never
> to Monte Sereno because there is NOTHING there.
"gvk2", You Are Sitting On Your Brain !
There is plenty of things going on, in beautiful natural
historic Monte Sereno.
Just recently the Nguyen family (some say "invader gook$")
raised so much ruckus over some neighbor's Christ-mas
decorations, which was a big tourist attraction,
> there is NOTHING there.
That the strange city government enacted laws against Christmas
decorations.
There is of course the historic Monte Sereno house that
John Steinbeck lived in, while he wrote " Of Mice and Men ",
while living in Monte Sereno. Steinbeck, eventually leaving
Monte Sereno, over the hill to Pacific Grove, because too
many people were wrecking the place (Monte Sereno)
> Driving many times to Los Gatos
> and Saratoga
I got a deal for you. From now on, just stay the fuck away
from Monte Sereno and Los Gatos and *of course*,
historic "Saratoga", which used to called :
Mc Carty-ville
That is a whole 'nother story, altogether.
> There is no reason for anyone to go there, unless they live there.
John Steinbeck (Communist 'Grapes of Wrath'),
thought there was a good enough reason to "go there".
"gvk2", you are no writer, in fact you sound like a bold idiot.
Oh please, be so bold, as to tell-us-all which hamlet, which
eden you live in ?
Do tell.
Bim Bom
"leanstotheleft" @ democrat.com wrote:
> It's hardly fair to judge Pat because she doesn't know of some
> insignificant podunk town.
> I think more people know where Dogtown is located than Monte Sereno.
Ya know what,
you are a silly clown too. With plenty of trash-talk to litter the
streets
of Monte Sereno, just to stick-up for your liberal buddy Pat
Thurston.
Both of you turds, with nothing to say about Obama being a C.I.A.
creation from the very start, the mysterious death of Obama's
mother,
the shredding of her passport, and that she was the V.P. escrow
agent at the Hawaii bank which issued checks to the dictators
around
the world, that the C.I.A. was propping-up throughout the world.
"leanstotheleft" says absolutely NOTHING.
Evil Liberals !
...and now their "god" is found to be a C.I.A. creation, from the
very start. You and Thurston together, makes me vomit !
1933-2010
The Party of Treason
The Democratic Party
Bim Bom
"leanstotheleft" @ democrat.com wrote :
> Monte Sereno is of no significance.
John Steinbeck, who wrote the Communist book,
"The Grapes Of Wrath", IS SIGNIFICANT, having
lived in a house in Monte Sereno.
I thought that would be right-up your alley,
Communist History -
You lousy liberal demon-crap (democrat).....
THE Party Of Treason ! (1933-2010)
The same that coddled Soviet agents and allowed
them inside every corner of our defense establishment
during the traitorous Roosevelt years / Truman.
Communists & Steinbeck (1936 Monte Sereno).
That IS the Democrat Party,
THE Party Of Treason ! (1933-2010)
I thought that would be right-up your alley !
> Monte Sereno is of no significance.
As a stinkin' lousy Communist Demon-crap (Democrat),
I beg to differ,
There Is Significance In Monte Sereno.
I thought a Pinko Liberal like you, would have know that !
oh,
b.t.w. - ciccio is having a better-than-average day.
Let's celebrate his happiness.
'Eh liberal demon ?
Bim Bom
"leanstotheleft @ democrat.com" wrote :
> Nobody cares about Monte Sereno, thus who cares
> that Pat doesn't know the insignificant town.
Because Pat Thurston, like you "leanstotheleft"
are behind-the-scenes Communist Supporters,
if not out-right Commies (Democratic Party).
You and Pat Thurston, always toe the Communist
Party Line, the same as the Daily Worker, the
Comintern.
Time and time again, the demon-crap (Democrat)
tries to smear Senator Joseph Mc Carthy, especially
in the light of the fact that Mc Carthy exposed
Edward R. Murrow as doing the work for the secret
brutal Soviet Police in the Soviet Union in 1935.
Mc Carthy was great !
"leanstotheleft" and Pat Thurston, and the rest of the
Demon-Crap (Democratic) Party, are wholly invested
in selling this country down the tubes ----->
A CONSPIRACY SO VAST
TO REALIZE THAT TROTSKY
LENIN, STALIN, AND ALL OF
THE ANIMALS WHO TOOK OVER
RUSSIA, WERE EVIL JEWS !
The Democratic Party (Party Of Treason), is filled to
the brim, with Jew effort, because the Jew is aligned
with International Communism so much that they sold
China out and killed millions upon millions of christians
and non-christians throughout the world.
More on that evil Jew culture of sinister proportions :
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/music_mafias
Jews = Democratic Party
The Party Of Treason [1933-2010]
David Kaye
>Don't forget Burbank, one of the last remaining unincorporated holdouts
>in the middle of San Jose.
And then there are places that one would think are cities but aren't, Castro
Valley and San Lorenzo to name two of the largest ones.
And then there are the confusing geographic features. The San Lorenzo River
is not near San Lorenzo, Alameda Creek is not near Alameda.
Yuba City is not in Yuba County, Sutter Creek (aka Sutter City) is not in
Sutter County, Butte City is not in Butte County, Placerville is not in Placer
County. There are two communities called Plumas, but neither one is in Plumas
County. The town of Mount Shasta is not in Shasta County. And those are the
ones I can think of offhand.
California is a confusing place.
Bim Bom
David Kaye wrote :
> California is a confusing place.
Your damn right it is. Growing-up in a world where the
beautiful innocent rainbow and the word gay, has been
transformed, in a young man's eyes, into something
bizarre, un-seemly, and wholly involved in -
Driving one's tongue into another
person's anal hole, to play around
for a while. A morsel, some goo.
Lord help us !
---> http://www.exorcist.org.nz/earthquke.wav
I am also confused David Kaye,
for all of the signs are pointing to San Francisco,
you and your antics, collectively with Sodom and
Gomorrah, Babylon and Ninevah,
with the force of Krakatoa or something like that.
Let me let you in on a little (BIG) secret, and that is
that Rastafarians, usually don't take prisoners, when
it comes to spreading the warnings about impending
Jah judgement upon the land.
The Rasta Generation Band and Mikael Enoch are
warning people like you David Kaye,
BECAUSE YOUR RIMMING ANTICS COLLECTIVELY
is going to bring-down the judgement of Jah Almighty
on the Babylon By The Bay.
I've seen pictures of San Francisco (Michael Savage),
before the evil reprobate (anal thirst lusts, oh my)
individuals came to destroy the once cute and
respected towns in the 1900's.
David Kaye, ------> YOU <------ got me confused !
Everything you say and do is geard towards destruction,
and damn it ---> bringing-it-upon-everyone in the Bay Area.
Hmmmm, just reggae preacher warnings on this webpage
with of-course audio (deep roots music),
http://www.exorcist.org.nz/the_devils_radio
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> Nobody cares about Monte Sereno,
That's your standard for knowledge? That sounds like a high school
drop out..."Nobody cares about that astronomy/science bullshit..."
etc. Upon further reflection, unfortunately, that sounds like most
contemporary American high school graduates.
[Remainder of Monte Sereno-nobody cares rationalization snipped.]
Understand, I'm not being critical because she didn't where Monte
Sereno is exactly located, or even generally located. She didn't know
of it AT ALL. People don't care about many cities. That doesn't
excuse being ignorant about their existence in the BA, especially when
one is suppose to a major part of the BA scene as a host on the "news-
talk leader." If, however, you have a lower standard, so be it. That's
just further evidence of the dumbing down of America.
Ciccio
SMS
It's pretty amazing that so many Bay Area media people have such a
limited knowledge of the area. Last night I was watching channel 2's
coverage of the San Bruno fire since a relative lives in that area. The
reporter repeatedly stated that he was standing at Crestmoor and San
Pablo Avenue. The people in the studio kept saying the correct location,
but I guess he could not hear them.
SMS
> BayAreaBroadcast<bayareab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Most people from S.F. wouldn't know where it was.
>> It's no biggie.
>
> I'm an amateur California historian and I can't tell you exactly where Monte
> Sereno is, either. I can tell you where Weott, Dorris, Bumpass Hell,
> Drawbridge, and Likely are. My best guess without looking it up is that Monte
> Sereno is in the Santa Cruz Mountains somewhere.
>
> There are lots of geographic anomalies, misunderstandings, problems, goofs,
> etc., around here. For instance, some people don't know the difference
> between Mountain View and Mountain House, between San Marin and San Martin,
> between the city of Brentwood and the Los Angeles district called Brentwood.
I was in the post office one day where the customer was patiently trying
to explain to the clerk that they needed to look under "S" for the rates
for packages to South Africa, not "A."
SMS
> When is the last time there was a drive-by shooting in Monte
> Sereno? Monte Sereno, 1.56 square miles. 4,000 people.
> They don't even have their own police department.
Nor does Saratoga, Cupertino, or Los Altos Hills. And soon San Carlos.
John Higdon
<8475e1b2-74ae-4ceb...@x24g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Ciccio <franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Understand, I'm not being critical because she didn't where Monte
> Sereno is exactly located, or even generally located. She didn't know
> of it AT ALL. People don't care about many cities. That doesn't
> excuse being ignorant about their existence in the BA, especially when
> one is suppose to a major part of the BA scene as a host on the "news-
> talk leader."
I would seriously doubt that anyone outside of the San Jose metro has a
clue about "The Rosegarden", "Burbank", "Cambrian", "Evergreen",
"Almaden", or "Willow Glen". They're not unincorporated towns but rather
districts of San Jose. But everyone knows about "The Sunset",
"Excelsior", "The Richmond", "Cow Hollow", "Noe Valley", "The Mission",
etc.
Things CAN escape the notice of even long time or even "lifetime"
residents. Can anyone tell me where "Banta" is? I visit Banta regularly
in my work. But I had sure never heard of it before then.
> If, however, you have a lower standard, so be it. That's
> just further evidence of the dumbing down of America.
No one decries the dumbing down process than I, but one cannot know the
name of every postage stamp plot of land in the greater Bay Area...or
anywhere else.
That said, it might have been well for her (or anyone else in that
situation) to pop the name into Google, or ask the producer or engineer
quietly, off the air.
David Kaye
>I was in the post office one day where the customer was patiently trying
>to explain to the clerk that they needed to look under "S" for the rates
>for packages to South Africa, not "A."
Oh? I'm surprised it wasn't "R" for Republic of South Africa.
John T
"New Mexico" magazine has a regular feature called "One of Our States
Is Missing" in which chronicles reader-submitted examples of New
Mexico being mistaken for Mexico bu people who really should know better.
JT
--
gvk2
>
> No one decries the dumbing down process than I, but one cannot know the
> name of every postage stamp plot of land in the greater Bay Area...
>
Not involving geography, but a good example.
About two weeks ago I called my local assembly-person's office to
leave my comments regarding a pension reform bill. AB 1987.
So, while talking to the person answering the phone, I ask if others
have been calling. Probably no one.
Anyway, the topic leads me to ask here how many people live in the
district.
She has no idea, not even a ball park guess.
So I ask politely ask her if she has a ball park idea of how many
people live in San Leandro, where the office is located.
She has no idea, so I just say, give me a ball park guess.
She hesitates and then says ? 200 ? I'm waiting for "thousand" but it
doesn't come. I say, you mean, 200 people? Yes.
I say, well how many students went to your high school?
She hesitates and then guesses 200.
I inquire as to whether she thinks there were more people in her high
school or in San Leandro.
She thinks a bit and then says, probably more in San Leandro but she
isn't real sure from the way she says it.
BTW, this isn't someone from one of these dummy schools.
She went to Brian Copeland's high school Moreau in Hayward.
This is the staff working in one of our legislator's offices.
I ask open questions often, a practice I picked up while traveling the
world for years. Trying to discern what the "reality" was in people's
heads.
Like in the Philippines, I'd be in a town next to a cone volcano of
about 10,000 feet and I'd see the moon out during day, so I'd ask the
people which was higher, the moon or the volcano.
They'd be hesitant and then most would say, they're both very very
high. While a true answer, it was amazing, as they were unsure.
Try it with some telemarketers. Distance, population, or other
general knowledge questions.
You'd be amazed at what is, or is not, inside the heads of otherwise
intelligent sounding people.
Also in the heads of many politicians. (and no doubt in some posters
here)
Bim Bom
gvk2 wrote :
> BTW, this isn't someone from one of these dummy schools.
> She went to Brian Copeland's high school Moreau in Hayward.
Brian Copeland is no dummy.
His moves are calculated and con-niving.
@ KGO T.V. and KGO 810 [a.m.].
A bold surprise attack ! ! !
Brian "copie" Copeland, who did a classic 'wet-job',
of dis-information [50,000 watts / central america],
in order to do an evil naked-out-in-the-open character
assassination, against his one-time "friend", now "fiend",
Bernie Ward, who now suffers daily, with prison food,
prison quarters, a prison nightmare that threatens his
very life. Copeland *and* KGO T.V. Channel 7.
They did a real evil hatched-job against Bernie Ward,
with a dull blade of 1/2 truths, and an already
hysterical campaign of progaganda at
KGO T.V. 7 / 810 [a.m.],
where countless times the news management has
decided to again whip-up public hysteria over people
who happen to have digital images on their computer,
where no sexual mis-conduct ever took place, where
it is now illegal to possess a video / digital encoded
image of a staged Dog Fight.
Taking into account, that Europe's legal age of consent
is 14 years old, therefore creating a whole issue before
the American people, and that is that the establishment
(KGO/Capital Cities/C.I.A. Central Intelligence Agency)
wishes to :
K E E P D O W N
17 year olds
16 year olds
15 year olds
14 year olds,
from participating in society,
where 17 year olds especially,
have brilliant minds.
Fuck You KGO (C.I.A.) !
Whipping-up public hysteria !
Keeping down young adults !
The "copi"ous amounts of audio swill at KGO 810 [a.m.],
blaring into countless radios and streaming-audio . . .
(September 13, 2010) 3:00 p.m. Channel 7, KGO,
lucky 13, or is it ?
KGO T.V. Now Presents :
Brian Copeland
September 13, 2010, the appearance of the replacement to
Spencer Christian - that imposter nice-guy ---> Brian Copeland.
September 13, 2010, the launching of the vessel known as the :
Black Star Liner
Headed by Marcus Garvey >< JAMAICAN >< Hero !
Rather, Copeland is head-over-heels with the N.A.A.C.P.,
the same organ organisation, that framed Marcus Garvey,
tried Marcus Garvey, with a crooked N.A.A.C.P. influenced
courtroom, against Marcus Garvey . . . there is more,
see below.
Brian Copeland and the N.A.A.C.P. courtroom antics against
Bernie Ward, and the N.A.A.C.P. against Marcus Garvey.
Launching a surprise attack against Bernie Ward, trying his
best to sway public opinion [50,000 watts / Central America],
against Bernie Ward, then of course the television station
KGO Channel 7, went after Bernie Ward too.
For shame Copeland and the N.A.A.C.P.
Completely Fucking-Over ---> Marcus >< JA >< Garvey
and,
Now Bernie languishes and suffers, for some lousy digital
images, that JUDAS Copeland, wishes Bernie the worst
possible outcome, you can hear it on the audio of the
Copeland's broadcast.
Like Judas, BEFORE THE SENTENCING PHASE !
Copeland sounds / sounded so EVIL,
cause he is a evil "man" !
Brian Copeland (N.A.A.C.P.) wants the African man
in America to continue to suffer. The N.A.A.C.P.
(Brian Copeland), stopped the efforts of Marcus
Garvey to :
R E P A T R I A T E
R E P A T R I A T I O N
The suffering and discriminated against black man
in the Americas. Abraham Lincoln of course set-up
Liberia for that purpose. The Vatiklan (Vatican),
the Roman Catholic church, and the self-professed
Roman Catholic Brian Copeland, of course is
silent about the real circumstances involving the
assassination of Abraham Lincoln
---> The Suppressed Truth
About The Assassination
Of Abraham Lincoln
Burke Mc Carty, Ex-Romanist
I.S.B.N. 0-879968-169-1
Brian Copeland & the N.A.A.C.P. -
Copeland is more sinister and evil than you
have thought previously. Now you can
overstand the whole shituation at KGO.
Brian Copeland [N.A.A.C.P] :
Here below is an excerpt from black leader Marcus Garvey's
book, writing while he being hunted down by the N.A.A.C.P.,
while he was convicted, the trial and while he was in
Tombs Prison in 1925:
The Philosophy & Opinions
Of Marcus Garvey
(or, Africa for the Africans)
ISBN: 0-912469-24-2 (pbk.)
---> page 243
" That a Juror on several occasions during the
trial had conversations with the learned Judge
in Court, by approaching the bench, the
conversations ending in laughter, with the
Juror staring at me, etc., and during the
trial a Juror was heard to say "he was going
to do what the Judge tells him to." The verdict
of the Jury was arrived at after a second charge
by the learned Judge, who himself called for the
Jury. I was not aware during the trial that this
was improper conduct on the part of the Juror.
That the learned trial Judge, being a member
and active supporter of an antagonistically rival
Negro organization, known as The National
Association for the Advancement of Colored
People [NAACP], was petitioned by me not to
preside at the trial of the case, but he ruled to
the contrary and did sit during the trial, and
during the trial agents and officers of the said
organization [NAACP] were busy promulgating
sentiment against me, and immediately at the
close of the Prosecutor's summation, one of the
chief agents of the organization [NAACP], and
one who had signed on their behalf a wicked and
vicious letter appeal to the Attorney General to
"hurry up" my conviction and deportation. "
" That the chief director of this association
[NAACP], W.E.B. DuBois, wrote in the
official organ of the society that one of the
greatest achievements for the year was my
conviction, and he subsequently wrote in
the same organ that I was convicted for
my "monkey shines" in Court. "
- Marcus Garvey
leansto...@democrat.com
> <8475e1b2-74ae-4ceb-bbe1-edde0af00...@x24g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Burbank....the Pink Poodle.
I've been to the Rose Garden, Willow Glen, Evergreen, Cambrian, and
Almaden. Also Sunset, Cow Hollow, Noe Valley, and the Richmond
District (AKA new China town). Toss in Western Addition and Potrero
Hill. Left out West San Jose.
All these places matter. Monte Sereno doesn't.
Burbank is unincorporated San Jose. Definitely an odd spot. Sunnyvale
has an unincorporated area near where the patent library is/was. I
can't imagine the patent library still exists since that stuff as been
online for well over a decade.
Broadmore on the peninsula is a spot not many people heard of.
leansto...@democrat.com
i care about science and astronomy, but don't give a flying fig about
Monte Sereno.
leansto...@democrat.com
> * David Kaye wrote, On 9/10/2010 1:42 PM:
>
North Korea is an odd country in the respect that they don't call
themselves North Korea. It is officially the Democratic People's
Republic of Korea. Of course SWLers know this.
Bougainville Nation
"leanstotheleft" @ democrat.com
> Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
You prove my point.
Democrats lean towards Communism, Marxism,
Totalitarian Mommy-State !
SMS
<snip>
> Broadmore on the peninsula is a spot not many people heard of.
Especially since there's no such place on the peninsula.
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> i care about science and astronomy, but don't give a flying fig about
> Monte Sereno.
You, however, are not a talk show host on the "news-talk leader" of
the BA. So, your choice to be ignorant of BA political subdivisions
isn't of moment. Nevertheless, your post is interesting because your
brazen "it doesn't matter" rationale for ignorance does epitomize the
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> North Korea is an odd country in the respect that they don't call
> themselves North Korea. It is officially the Democratic People's
> Republic of Korea. Of course SWLers know this.
That's no more odd than the U.S.A. not calling itself North America or
North Mexico or South Canada...What is odd is that you think it's odd
that they don't call themselves North Korea.
You remind me of the conservatives/reactionaries who back in the day
refused to recognize the People's Republic of China. They wouldn't
even call it China, but would call it *Red* China. Then they thought
they were becoming progressive by calling it *Mainland* China.
Ciccio
John Higdon
<43c31f6a-b274-4146...@m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Ciccio <franc...@comcast.net> wrote:
I hear this "it doesn't matter" all the time when it comes to language.
Using wrong words, using words improperly, making up words, etc., have
become the order of the day. One only has to read the writings of eras
past to confirm that.
Before our world was reduced to catch phrases and sound bites, people
said what they meant. Now, they make noises that are produced from a
vocal mechanism on autopilot.
In my opinion, this is one of the major dumbing-down of America.
Ciccio
> I would seriously doubt that anyone outside of the San Jose metro has a
> clue about "The Rosegarden", "Burbank", "Cambrian", "
[Etc. snipped]
I would seriously doubt that most people have a clue that Deimos is a
moon of Mars. Yet, if somebody were hosting a show regarding astronomy
and asked a caller: "Where is Deimos?" I'd likewise think that as lame
as a host on the top BA news-talk station, on its top show, asking:
"Where is Monte Sereno?"
> Can anyone tell me where "Banta" is? I visit Banta regularly
> in my work. But I had sure never heard of it before then.
> No one decries the dumbing down process than I, but one cannot know the
> name of every postage stamp plot of land in the greater Bay Area...or
> anywhere else.
Heh. I'm sure that the people in Banta appreciate being called part of
the greater Bay Area. In that easterly direction, perhaps a better
example might be Byron, which is, at least, in a BA county. Those
areas, however, are in the middle of nowhere. Monte Sereno is
incorporated and in the immediate proximity to the third largest city
in California. In the East Bay Piedmont is more analogous to Monte
Sereno. Also, perhaps Kensington, albeit it is unincorporated.
> That said, it might have been well for her (or anyone else in that
> situation) to pop the name into Google, or ask the producer or engineer
> quietly, off the air.
Well, there it is. As I said, in in starting this thread, I wasn't
posting about the content of the call, though as is often the case,
thread drift causes such. Rather, I was posting about the lame
technique with which the call was handled. I appreciate you offering
a radio insider's opinion on how it could have been better
professionally handled.
Ciccio
Phil Keller
>
> I hear this "it doesn't matter" all the time when it comes to language.
> Using wrong words, using words improperly, making up words, etc., have
> become the order of the day.
It has long been this way. Decimate used to mean killing one in ten, now
it means to kill nearly all. It used to be wrong to split an infinitive,
now it is acceptable. It is a living language.
We have two words that I know of for handwear, mitten or mitt and glove.
German has none, they call them hand shoes. If English speakers lack a
word for something they simply take one from another language and make
it an English word. It is a living language.
Phil
John Higdon
Phil Keller <p-ke...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> We have two words that I know of for handwear, mitten or mitt and glove.
> German has none, they call them hand shoes. If English speakers lack a
> word for something they simply take one from another language and make
> it an English word. It is a living language.
Or just take another word from the English language and make it mean
something else, as when "infer" came to mean "imply". If enough ignorant
people do it, then it becomes so.
I guess I can live with that. What I resent is being looked down upon
for maintaining the slightest effort to speak properly and
unequivocally. Do we even teach English in the schools anymore? It
really is hard to tell.
gvk2
Monte Sereno is
> incorporated and in the immediate proximity to the third largest city
> in California.
"immediate" proximity?
Monte Sereno is over a mile away from San Jose.
Piedmont is in "immediate" proximity to Oakland.
Ask people on the street which is more famous, Monte Sereno or
Armstrong Painting?
98.4 percent of respondents answered Armstrong Painting.
Asked if they had ever heard of the Dumbarton Bridge, 95.6 percent of
all San Franciscans said yes.
Asked if they had any idea of where Monte Sereno was located, only 2.9
percent said yes.
More respondents knew where Monte Carlo was located than knew that
Monte Sereno was in the Bay Area.
Ciccio
> "immediate" proximity?
>
> Monte Sereno is over a mile away from San Jose.
A few minutes drive between cities in the BA is an immediate
proximity.
> Asked if they had any idea of where Monte Sereno was located, only 2.9
> percent said yes.
Now, you're offering bullshit surveys. That's worse than the "it
doesn't matter" rationalization for being ignorant. Anyhow, take it
easy, calm down, the topic of thread isn't about your ignorance of BA
geography. You don't need to rationalize it...really.
Ciccio
John Slade
> In keeping with the proper spirit of this group, I'll refrain from
> commenting on Pat Thurston's opinions. That said, I tuned in to the
> last 20 minutes of the first hour of Ronn's show and found Thurston
> "guest" hosting. She then asked a caller, from Monte Sereno, ..."Where
> is Monte Sereno?" I haven't heard anything so provincially clueless
> from a KGO host since David Gold. Thurston, however, is purportedly
> "from" the BA??? Anyhow, with that I tuned to another station.
Let Me get this right. Pat Thurston is clueless because
she didn't know where a small town, population less than 3,500
is? Why should anyone who lives in the Bay Area know where every
little town is? Apparently Monte Sereno is right next to Los
Gatos, now I'm sure Thurston has heard of Los Gatos. But if she
hasn't she wouldn't be clueless.
John
John Slade
> On Sep 10, 9:22 pm, "leanstothel...@democrat.com"
> <leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
>
>> North Korea is an odd country in the respect that they don't call
>> themselves North Korea. It is officially the Democratic People's
>> Republic of Korea. Of course SWLers know this.
>
> That's no more odd than the U.S.A. not calling itself North America or
> North Mexico or South Canada...What is odd is that you think it's odd
> that they don't call themselves North Korea.
What I find odd is that you think Pat Thurston is clueless
because she doesn't know every small town in the Bay Area.
>
> You remind me of the conservatives/reactionaries who back in the day
> refused to recognize the People's Republic of China. They wouldn't
> even call it China, but would call it *Red* China. Then they thought
> they were becoming progressive by calling it *Mainland* China.
Is that anything like you being "reactionary" and calling
someone clueless because they had not heard of a small town?
John
David Kaye
>If enough ignorant
>people do it, then it becomes so.
For that matter, don't call a single soldier a "troop" because a troop is a
group of soldiers. And it is perfectly fine to "celebrate" a bad event
because the term doesn't mean the event must be a happy occasion. Likewise,
the term "terrible" does not mean a bad person or situation, simply an
overwhelming one.
John Slade
> On Sep 9, 8:41 pm, Ciccio<frances...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 9, 2:25 pm, gvk2<gvk2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sep 9, 2:01 pm, Ciccio<frances...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> A stones throw from San Jose... absurd.
>>
>> It's no more than a few miles.
>>
>>> There is no reason why anyone going to San Jose would ever go to Monte Sereno.
>>
>> There are many places that I've never gone to, but I know generally
>> where they are. To not know that Monte Sereno is somewhere in the
>> South Bay or, at least, somewhere in the BA, is pretty lame.
>>
>>> over the Bay Area 200 days per year. Driving many times to Los Gatos
>>> and Saratoga as well as to every corner of the SF Bay Area but never
>>> to Monte Sereno because there is NOTHING there.
>>
>> It's not a matter of going there. It's a matter of just KNOWING about
>> it. Are you saying that until I posted here today, that you had NEVER
>> HEARD of Monte Sereno? My criticism of Thurston is that she was
>> CLUELESS that Monte Sereno was even in the Bay Area. After the caller
>> told her where it was, she said: "Oh, so it's local." It's one thing
>> for people to be dumb and unable to pick out New York on a map. It's a
>> whole other level of being clueless when somebody doesn't know it's "
>> somewhere back east."
>>
>> Ciccio
>
> Monte Sereno is of no significance.
I mean it's pretty crazy to get so worked up over why
someone doesn't know about a hick town that doesn't even have a
McDonald's. I think Ciccio is angry because he thinks that flea
speck on the map is more important than any other flea speck. I
lived in a rural community that had maybe three houses there. I
never got angry because someone had never heard of Pine Island
before. It was a very exclusive community but nobody has ever
heard of it outside people who lived near there.
John
John Slade
> On Sep 9, 8:48 pm, "leanstothel...@democrat.com"> So are many other places in the BA. However, not knowing, at least,
> that they are located in the BA is still pretty lame. Especially when
> one is suppose to part of the "Bay Area Scene" like a BA talk show
> host.
>
Why are you so pissed about someone not knowing where this
hick town is?
John
Ciccio
> I think Ciccio is angry because he thinks that flea
> speck on the map is more important than any other flea speck.
I am not at all angry, at all. I am, however, somewhat dismayed, at
yet, another example of the dumbing down of America being exhibited by
our media. Moreover, it being on the top BA "news-talk" station by
somebody hosting its top show.
That said, I have no interest in Monte Sereno. I know little about it
and I may have only gone through or by it maybe a few times whilst
visiting a friend who lived in Saratoga about 20 years ago. In
essence, I would be just as taken aback if Thurston had asked somebody
the location of any BA political subdivision.
> I lived in a rural community that had maybe three houses there. I
> never got angry because someone had never heard of Pine Island
> before.
I'd hope that you wouldn't become angry over that. I've read your
irrational angry posts before, but being angry over that would really
be over-the-top.
> It was a very exclusive community but nobody has ever
Oh! So you're one of *THOSE* liberals...Got it!
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
Clearly Ciccio is a Chicom.
leansto...@democrat.com
> On 9/10/2010 9:15 PM, leanstothel...@democrat.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Broadmore on the peninsula is a spot not many people heard of.
>
> Especially since there's no such place on the peninsula.
http://www.broadmoorpolice.org/map.html
Typo, but the place exists. Clearly you have no future in the Ciccio
land of radio talk show hosts.
leansto...@democrat.com
I knew where Monte Sereno was located. It wasn't news to me. However,
I still don't care about the town. Nobody does.
Ciccio
> What I find odd is that you think Pat Thurston is clueless
> because she doesn't know every small town in the Bay Area.
She doesn't need to "know them." I do, however, expect somebody who is
a NEWS-TALK professional on the BAY AREA's #1 NEWS-TALK station, while
hosting it #1 NEWS-TALK show to recognize the name as being somewhere
in the BA generally. .
> Is that anything like you being "reactionary" and calling
> someone clueless because they had not heard of a small town?
Well, if it's "reactionary" to expect professionals to have a
commanding knowledge of the areas in which they work, then the dumbing
down of America is beyond the critical stage and to the point of being
malignant.
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
It occurred to be thanks to Leo Cilino, we all know about Occidental.
Now in the scheme of things, that puts Occidental way ahead of the
recognition list compared to Monte Sereno.
leansto...@democrat.com
Are there cats in Los Gatos? Are there bathrooms in Los Banos. Just
how bad is the air in Arvin?
Ciccio
> Why are you so pissed about someone not knowing where this
> hick town is?
I am not pissed...Next question.
Ciccio
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> I knew where Monte Sereno was located. It wasn't news to me. However,
> I still don't care about the town. Nobody does.
It has nothing to do with "caring" about Monte Sereno. It has to do
with caring about the ignorance in America.
Ciccio
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> It occurred to be thanks to Leo Cilino, we all know about Occidental.
> Now in the scheme of things, that puts Occidental way ahead of the
> recognition list compared to Monte Sereno.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You had never heard of Occidental until recently???
Unless you're a recent transplant to the BA or a kid who hasn't been
out and about, then that IS lame. My gawd, no wonder you're having a
fit of pique to my criticism of Thurston.
Ciccio
John Slade
> On Sep 11, 4:53 pm, John Slade<hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> I think Ciccio is angry because he thinks that flea
>> speck on the map is more important than any other flea speck.
>
> I am not at all angry, at all. I am, however, somewhat dismayed, at
> yet, another example of the dumbing down of America being exhibited by
> our media. Moreover, it being on the top BA "news-talk" station by
> somebody hosting its top show.
I don't think this is dumbing down of anything. Pat
Thruston is not lacking in intelligence, she asks good
questions. She has a nice style too, much better than a lot of
other talk show hosts. It's not like say Dr. Laura's style or
Rush Limbauh's style.
>
>> I lived in a rural community that had maybe three houses there. I
>> never got angry because someone had never heard of Pine Island
>> before.
>
> I'd hope that you wouldn't become angry over that.
Of course not. I wouldn't even think someone someone was
"clueless" if they had never heard of it.
> I've read your
> irrational angry posts before, but being angry over that would really
> be over-the-top.
>
Well I'm not the one who thinks someone is clueless
because they don't know of a small town in the Bay Area. I mean
think about it, has anyone in this thread agreed with you?
John
leansto...@democrat.com
This may be a shocker, but I'm sure there are highly educated people
in America that never heard of Monte Sereno. Why, I bet even Sarah
Palin, Fox News contributor and half term governor, never heard of
Monte Sereno. But if she did, she would say "I can see Los Gatos from
Monte Sereno."
leansto...@democrat.com
I've been to Occidental on the way to the grove.
John Higdon
John Slade <hhit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> What I find odd is that you think Pat Thurston is clueless
> because she doesn't know every small town in the Bay Area.
It probably would have been good for her to look it up on the spot
(there is a computer at hand in the studio for such purposes) rather
than display ignorance. But, as it was explained to me, she was filling
in for Ronn Owens for the first time and she was nervous as hell. I can
understand that completely. That was the situation, and it makes perfect
sense. Forward movement in anyone's career is not always a glassy-smooth
road.
Sometimes it helps to find out what really happened and can all the
speculation. I guess that's a tough concept to grasp.
Ciccio
> On 9/11/2010 5:40 PM, Ciccio wrote:
> I don't think this is dumbing down of anything. Pat
> Thruston is not lacking in intelligence,
I never said she lacked intelligence. Rather, she showed ignorance in
a part of her job. What is evidence of dumbing down is how people want
to rationalize that ignorance by arguing about the city, what the guy
on the street thinks, cities in other states, etc.
> Of course not. I wouldn't even think someone someone was
> "clueless" if they had never heard of it.
What if the "someone" were the member of congress who represented that
city?
> Well I'm not the one who thinks someone is clueless
> because they don't know of a small town in the Bay Area. I mean
> think about it, has anyone in this thread agreed with you?
Not just "someone." Rather someone who is a talk show host on the #1
BAY AREA NEWS-TALK station while on the #1 show of that station.
Ciccio
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> This may be a shocker, but I'm sure there are highly educated people
> in America that never heard of Monte Sereno.
How many of them are a talk show host on the #1 BAY AREA NEWS-TALK
station while on the #1 show of that station?
> Why, I bet even Sarah Palin, Fox News contributor and half term governor, never heard of
> Monte Sereno.
She, however, is not a talk show host on the #1 BAY AREA NEWS-TALK
Ciccio
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> Clearly Ciccio is a Chicom.
Oh my Gawd!!! You're a John Bircher!!!...Too Funny!!!
Ciccio
Ciccio
> It probably would have been good for her to look it up on the spot
> (there is a computer at hand in the studio for such purposes) rather
> than display ignorance. But, as it was explained to me, she was filling
> in for Ronn Owens for the first time and she was nervous as hell. I can
> understand that completely. That was the situation, and it makes perfect
> sense. Forward movement in anyone's career is not always a glassy-smooth
> road.
>
> Sometimes it helps to find out what really happened and can all the
> speculation. I guess that's a tough concept to grasp.
What speculation? She made the statement. However, I appreciate you
addressing the issue I raised. That is, the *broadcasting*
expectations related to her statement, rather than the subject of the
statement. Your "behind the scenes" insight once again is shown to be
interesting.
Ciccio
John Slade
Ignorance? You are reading way too much into Pat not
knowing a small town.
John
John Slade
This sounds pretty irrational and obsessive to me.
John
John Slade
> On Sep 11, 6:53 pm, John Slade<hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>> On 9/11/2010 5:40 PM, Ciccio wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is dumbing down of anything. Pat
>> Thruston is not lacking in intelligence,
>
> I never said she lacked intelligence. Rather, she showed ignorance in
> a part of her job. What is evidence of dumbing down is how people want
> to rationalize that ignorance by arguing about the city, what the guy
> on the street thinks, cities in other states, etc.
The guy on the street, being the average guy, wouldn't
give a damn about Pat Thurston not knowing this. The only thing
she was ignorant was about a small town and I'm sure most people
in The Bay Area share that ignorance.
>
>> Of course not. I wouldn't even think someone someone was
>> "clueless" if they had never heard of it.
>
> What if the "someone" were the member of congress who represented that
> city?
I would expect the member of congress to know what type of
area he represents without knowing the name of every little town.
>
>> Well I'm not the one who thinks someone is clueless
>> because they don't know of a small town in the Bay Area. I mean
>> think about it, has anyone in this thread agreed with you?
>
> Not just "someone." Rather someone who is a talk show host on the #1
> BAY AREA NEWS-TALK station while on the #1 show of that station.
>
Let me clue you in. Nobody cares that Thurston didn't
know except a very few people. I think you purposely said
something so stupid and irrational that people couldn't help but
respond. I think you're doing this just to get a response and
deep down, you really don't care.
John
John Slade
> In article<LlUio.18307$y85....@newsfe13.iad>,
> John Slade<hhit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> What I find odd is that you think Pat Thurston is clueless
>> because she doesn't know every small town in the Bay Area.
>
> It probably would have been good for her to look it up on the spot
> (there is a computer at hand in the studio for such purposes) rather
> than display ignorance.
I think it was just fine for her to ask where it was. I
just listened to it and the caller didn't seem to mind telling
her. I guess he must be used to people asking him where Monte
Sereno is.
>
> Sometimes it helps to find out what really happened and can all the
> speculation. I guess that's a tough concept to grasp.
>
I agree. I don't think it's even worth speculation as to
why she asked him where it was. To me it seems Pat did just fine
like always.
John
BayAreaBroadcast
> On Sep 11, 8:00 pm, "leanstothel...@democrat.com"
>
> <leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> > This may be a shocker, but I'm sure there are highly educated people
> > in America that never heard of Monte Sereno.
>
> How many of them are a talk show host on the #1 BAY AREA NEWS-TALK
> station while on the #1 show of that station?
>
It's not necessary to hold up a talk show host's geographical
knowledge up to a higher standard than that of the
typical college-educated KGO listener (many of whom wouldn't know
where your little town is).
Write to KGO management and tell them you think she is "clueless", and
be sure to state the reason why.
They will enjoy a good laugh.
Either you're nitpicking because you don't care for her as a host, or
you're being anal.
Which is it?
Ciccio
wrote:
> It's not necessary to hold up a talk show host's geographical
> knowledge up to a higher standard than that of the
Necessary? Oh, now it's back to the "It doesn't matter" standard for
knowledge. If you have adopted that low standard, so be it.
It's not my town. In fact, Though I may have gone through it or passed
near it once or twice 20+ years ago. I, however, did know before
then, that it exists in the BA. Hell, there are many places in the BA
I haven't been to, but I know they exist in the BA.
> Either you're nitpicking because you don't care for her as a host, or
> you're being anal.
> Which is it?
Neither. I'm just amazed that she didn't know that the city is in the
BA..
Ciccio
Ciccio
> I think it was just fine for her to ask where it was. I
> just listened to it and the caller didn't seem to mind telling
> her.
He shouldn't have needed to tell her. It's not a matter whether the
caller minded.
> I agree. I don't think it's even worth speculation as to
> why she asked him where it was. To me it seems Pat did just fine
> like always.
Overall she's OK as a host. She, however, flubbed that one. Hopefully,
she learned from it, not only where is Monte Sereno, but that, for BA
talk show host, she is woefully lacking in Bay Area geography. She
should, at least, obtain a command of the names of BA cities and
towns. Really, she should also, at least, have a passing familiarity
of Bay Area census designated areas.
Ciccio
Ciccio
> The guy on the street, being the average guy, wouldn't
> give a damn about Pat Thurston not knowing this.
More with the "it doesn't matter" standard for a knowledge base. How
unfortunate.
> I would expect the member of congress to know what type of
> area he represents without knowing the name of every little town.
OK, you convinced me, you have a far lower standard for politicians
than I do. If a member of congress didn't show enough interest in his
job to give a damn about the names of every town in his district, then
that shows that he's not in it to serve his district. Now that I know
how low you set your bar, I understand why you think Thurston is
outstanding at her job.
> Let me clue you in. Nobody cares that Thurston didn't
> know except a very few people. I
Again with the "it doesn't matter" standard for a knowledge
base...Sorry, no sale.
Given the appalling dumbing down of America, perhaps schools have
adopted that standard. Whereby they teach and evaluate students only
with respect to knowledge that the student deems to "matter."
Ciccio
Ciccio
> This sounds pretty irrational and obsessive to me.
I can see why, given how low your set your standards, as evidenced by
your posts below. Geezus, you believe that it's fine for a member of
congress not to know the name of towns in his district.
Ciccio
Ciccio
> Ignorance? You are reading way too much into Pat not
> knowing a small town.
Really? Unless somebody is feigning ignorance when they say they don't
know something, then they are ignorant of it.
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
Knowing the location of Monte Sereno will not get your doping profiles
right to get a stable zener, nor will it yield a low phase nose
oscillator. In fact, to get a 16 ounce cup of coffee at Starbucks will
cost $1.85, even if you tell the clerk you know the location of Monte
Sereno. OK, OK, $1.75 if you bring your own cup.
leansto...@democrat.com
Every time I play 3 card Monte Sereno, I lose. I think the game is
rigged.
Bougainville Nation
<leanstothel...@democrat.com> wrote:
> Every time I play 3 card Monte Sereno, I lose. I think the game is
> rigged.
Yeah, you did lose this one, and more to come.
A deluded Democrat Pinko who didn't even know that
John Steinbeck the Communist (Grapes Of Wrath)
lived in Monte Sereno.
You Lost Big Time !
The game is rigged, with Communists in the Press,
and rife all over the Democratic Party.....and that
would come back to you.
Rigged by the Democratic Party
The Party Of Treason [1933-2010]
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John Slade
> On Sep 12, 9:31 am, John Slade<hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> The guy on the street, being the average guy, wouldn't
>> give a damn about Pat Thurston not knowing this.
>
> More with the "it doesn't matter" standard for a knowledge base. How
> unfortunate.
>
>> I would expect the member of congress to know what type of
>> area he represents without knowing the name of every little town.
>
> OK, you convinced me, you have a far lower standard for politicians
> than I do. If a member of congress didn't show enough interest in his
> job to give a damn about the names of every town in his district, >
> then
> that shows that he's not in it to serve his district.
Now you're going into some crazy territory. I mean this is
pretty irrational. Let's take Senator Diane Feinstein. She
represents California. Do you think she should know all of the
478 incorporated cities and towns in California? I would be
surprised if any Governor or US Senator knew every city and town
in their state. Yea that would be crazy and obsessive to base
your vote on this. It would probably be even funnier if you went
to a town hall meeting and asked a senator or governor where
some podunk town.
> Now that I know
> how low you set your bar, I understand why you think Thurston is
> outstanding at her job.
>
Did I say she does an outstanding job? I said she does a
great job. She has a pleasant style. I can see why you don't
like her, you being a regular listener to Ray Taliaferro and
all.
>> Let me clue you in. Nobody cares that Thurston didn't
>> know except a very few people. I
>
> Again with the "it doesn't matter" standard for a knowledge
> base...Sorry, no sale.
It's not that it doesn't matter, everything matters to
someone, it's just that people don't care that she didn't know.
>
> Given the appalling dumbing down of America, perhaps schools have
> adopted that standard. Whereby they teach and evaluate students only
> with respect to knowledge that the student deems to "matter."
Do you know of any school that teaches kids to learn
every little hick town in their county?
John
John Slade
I think Ciccio is just doing this to get a response.
Nobody could possibly care so much about something so trivial.
John
John Slade
I vaguely remember hearing of that town on the news. But
when I hear the word "Occidental", I think of the College that
President Obama went to. I also think of the Occidental
Petroleum Company. I think Ciccio is just being silly as usual.
John
SMS
> In keeping with the proper spirit of this group, I'll refrain from
> commenting on Pat Thurston's opinions. That said, I tuned in to the
> last 20 minutes of the first hour of Ronn's show and found Thurston
> "guest" hosting. She then asked a caller, from Monte Sereno, ..."Where
> is Monte Sereno?" I haven't heard anything so provincially clueless
> from a KGO host since David Gold. Thurston, however, is purportedly
> "from" the BA??? Anyhow, with that I tuned to another station.
>
> Ciccio
Compared to Barbara Simpson, Pat Thurston is a fricking genius.
John Slade
>
>> Why are you so pissed about someone not knowing where this
>> hick town is?
>
> I am not pissed...Next question.
>
Well it seem to have angered you enough to post about it.
I have to admit, this is one of the dumbest things I ever heard
someone post about a talk show host. Another one was when
someone complained about a talk show host eating at a fast food
chain.
John
John Higdon
John Slade <hhit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Do you know of any school that teaches kids to learn
> every little hick town in their county?
I'm not sure what schools teach anymore. It is incredible to discover
what kids don't know when they graduate from high school.
Ciccio
> On 9/12/2010 11:39 AM, Ciccio wrote:> On Sep 12, 9:31 am, John Slade<hhitma...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >> The guy on the street, being the average guy, wouldn't
> >> give a damn about Pat Thurston not knowing this.
>
> > More with the "it doesn't matter" standard for a knowledge base. How
> > unfortunate.
>
> >> I would expect the member of congress to know what type of
> >> area he represents without knowing the name of every little town.
>
> > OK, you convinced me, you have a far lower standard for politicians
> > than I do. If a member of congress didn't show enough interest in his
> > job to give a damn about the names of every town in his district, >
>
> > then
> > that shows that he's not in it to serve his district.
>
> Now you're going into some crazy territory. I mean this is
> pretty irrational. Let's take Senator Diane Feinstein.
Nope. Stick by what you said, we weren't talking Senators, but
congressional districts...Please have enough integrity to not try to
weasel.
> It's not that it doesn't matter, everything matters to
> someone, it's just that people don't care that she didn't know.
Again, that is irrelevant as to whether she should have known it.
> Do you know of any school that teaches kids to learn
> every little hick town in their county?
Perhaps not anymore...Thank you for supporting my point.
Ciccio
Ciccio
> I think Ciccio is just doing this to get a response.
> Nobody could possibly care so much about something so trivial.
Yet, you keep on about it...
Ciccio
Ciccio
> Well it seem to have angered you enough to post about it.
Nope. Not angered at all. Just amazed...
Ciccio
Ciccio
> Compared to Barbara Simpson, Pat Thurston is a fricking genius.
Even if true, that doesn't excuse Thurston's ignorance.
Ciccio
leansto...@democrat.com
He is being more silly than usual!
As inconsequential as Occidental is, it does have a store or two,
which is more than you can say for Monte Sereno.
Ciccio
> As inconsequential as Occidental is, it does have a store or two,
> which is more than you can say for Monte Sereno.
Inconsequential or not, Monte Sereno is an inner Bay Area incorporated
city. It is clueless for a talk show host to be ignorant of that
fact, when the talk show host is on the #1 BAY AREA NEWS-TALK
station, while on that station's #1 show.
Ciccio
SMS
If anything she should have had her staff look it up. Still, not knowing
where a tiny suburb is located is not as big a deal as you make it out
to be. I'm sure there are east bay places that few of us in the south
bay know of.
Ciccio
> If anything she should have had her staff look it up. Still, not knowing
> where a tiny suburb is located is not as big a deal as you make it out
> to be. I'm sure there are east bay places that few of us in the south
> bay know of.
Big Deal? I just said it was clueless. Others have made a big deal
about it by trying to defend it by droning on about Monte Sereno, the
people on the street, a litany of other BA cities, etc. In fact,
it's been their rationalizations, regarding their standards for
descriptive knowledge, that has take me aback more, by far, than
Thurston's ignorance of BA geography.
Ciccio
John Slade
You sure are easily amazed. I bet it's also easy to
distract you with a shiny object.
John
John Slade
> In article<u7yjo.66081$8A2....@newsfe22.iad>,
> John Slade<hhit...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Do you know of any school that teaches kids to learn
>> every little hick town in their county?
>
> I'm not sure what schools teach anymore. It is incredible to discover
> what kids don't know when they graduate from high school.
>
When you were in grade school, did you have to learn every
city and town in the county where you lived?
John
John Slade
I actually listen to Barbara Simpson to hear all the
weird conspiracy theories. Her show is very funny. I love the
one about how Obama is a foreign-born Muslim who is here to
destroy the USA.
John