KGO's Mickey Luckoff On KSCO
DavidFJackson
Saturday morning on KSCO/1080 in Santa Cruz. You may backload the MP3
of it at:
DJ
Peter
<david.ferr...@gmail.com> said:
Humorous ... radio's very best president, with radio's worst owner/operator.
Funny ... MZ: "I've got 10,000 watts and a salt water site and you've
got 50,000 watts and a salt water site, yet your signal is better than
mine". Duh!
Hard to believe that MZ took KSCO from a $600,000 station to a station
which is worth his postulated $6,000,000.
Even harder to believe that he's going to get his choice of buyers.
He claimed an ethnic buyer is not an option, yet the best use of the
1080 frequency is moving it to a larger city, farther from S.F.'s 1050
and 1100, possibly to Salinas, and going 50,000 watts, but that would
mean ethnic, for sure.
Based upon Vern Berlin's old 1960's info, 50,000 watts is possible with
five towers, but I believe it could be done with four, nights, and only
two, days.
A triplex with 980 and 1460 could be a possibility, but I'd bet that
would be limited to 10,000 watts. A Quadraplex with 540, 1200 and 1570
could be a non-starter as that site is even worse than 1080's.
KSCO's physical plant is completely worn out, so a replacement of all
equipment, including the towers is likely one of the new owner's first
priorities.
--
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fight Bush as if there was no problem with terror" - John Rothmann
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Peter
DavidFJackson
> On 2007-12-19 15:28:43 -0800, DavidFJackson said:
>
> > Michael Zwerling interviewed KGO's Mickey Luckoff for two hours last
> > Saturday morning on KSCO/1080 in Santa Cruz. You may backload the MP3
> > of it at:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/yvjczs
>
> Humorous ... radio's very best president, with radio's worst owner/operator.
>
...Coupled with absolutely no call screening, and stretches of (what
seems like) five minutes at a time where MZ goes stream-of-
consciousness and Mickey Luckoff can't get a word in at all.
Ciccio
wrote:
Thanks. It made for a very interesting listen. What I find ironic, is
that Zwerling is not as good an interviewer as Ronn Owens. Yet, the
interview/call-ins far surpassed any interviews/call-ins Owens has
done with Luckoff.
Ciccio
RWW
> On Dec 19, 3:28 pm, DavidFJackson wrote:
>
>>Michael Zwerling interviewed KGO's Mickey Luckoff for two hours last
>>Saturday morning on KSCO/1080 in Santa Cruz. You may backload the MP3
>>of it at:
> Thanks. It made for a very interesting listen. What I find ironic, is
> that Zwerling is not as good an interviewer as Ronn Owens. Yet, the
> interview/call-ins far surpassed any interviews/call-ins Owens has
> done with Luckoff.
One thing that surprised me was Luckoff said,
"..on KGO we do *NO* syndication which we don't
do ourselves"
I was surprised at this because usually, an executive
is pretty well-briefed on the major attributes of
his enterprise ahead of any public comments.
You would think that the President of a radio
station would know that his station does air
syndicated programs before making the above statement.
Kind of like the president of Whole Foods, knows
that his operation doesn't sell soda with artificial
coloring.
John Slade
"DavidFJackson" <david.ferr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What exactly does Mickey Luckoff do again?
John
RWW
He has been doing the same thing at the same place since 1974.
Why? Most people in that type of position move on to bigger
and better things.
I noted that he did regret that he had not participated in
the equity portion of the Broadcasting equation. I can
understand his sentiment of colleagues an friends getting
rich while he remained the loyal president of the local
radio station for 33 years!
He has been the quintessential, loyal employee, trooper, and
survivor thru multiple changes of ownership. His record
speaks for itself, but what does he have to show for it?
Sadly, the corporations have reaped the benefits of his
success, but he has not advanced his position in the
industry over the last 30 years.
Yes, he has probably been pulling down more in compensation
and stock over the years, but he has not become a major
equity participant (i.e. ownership), and probably never will.
Most of this could probably a testament to the unpopularity
of radio more than anything. Radio is Radio, but other
employees of media firms have "succeded"* due, in part, to
the meteoric rise of their marketplaces (e.g. Eisner,
Geffen, Lasetter).
* Succeeded defined as Equity positions in their firm > $500M
peterh5322
> What exactly does Mickey Luckoff do again?
President and general manager of KGO and KSFO, but not KMKY which was
retained by Disney.
At KGO and KSFO, the buck stops at Luckoff ... until his "masters" tell
him otherwise.
Whether or not Luckoff also was an officer of the former owner is not
known to me. In a normal industrial company, such as Disney, an
individual holding the title of president or senior vice president
would definitely be an officer, and an individual holding the title of
vice president could be an officer.
Luckoff may be an officer of RADIO LICENSE HOLDING VIII, LLC, a Nevada
company, the owner of KGO and KSFO, and apparently only those.
KMKY is owned by RD SAN FRANCISCO ASSETS, LLC, a New York company, the
owner of KMKY, and apparently only that.
Before the spin-off of ABC by DIsney, but not its Radio Disney and ESPN
Radio properties, a very complicated series of "shelf corrporations"
was used to rearrange the assets in order to more easily effect the
transfers.
In comparison with KGO and KSFO, and Luckoff, Zwerling, of KSCO and
KOMY, is a one-trick-pony, and a pretty lame pony at that. A pony that
deserves to be humanely put-down.
John Higdon
wrote:
> Yes, he has probably been pulling down more in compensation
> and stock over the years, but he has not become a major
> equity participant (i.e. ownership), and probably never will.
And this is bad why? Some people are more into producing things than
collecting assets. I couldn't even begin to list the things that Mickey
is involved with outside the radio station. He is probably on a first
name basis with more people than most of the people who pass through Bay
Area governments.
> Most of this could probably a testament to the unpopularity
> of radio more than anything. Radio is Radio, but other
> employees of media firms have "succeded"* due, in part, to
> the meteoric rise of their marketplaces (e.g. Eisner,
> Geffen, Lasetter).
If your definition of "success" is raw personal net worth, then you
don't know Mickey Luckoff.
> * Succeeded defined as Equity positions in their firm > $500M
Yawn.
--
John Higdon
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David Eduardo
"RWW" <R...@rww.net> wrote in message
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I believe he was indicating that the syndicated programming they have or
have had is done at KGO, whether syndicated by them or other companies.
David Eduardo
>
>> What exactly does Mickey Luckoff do again?
>
> He has been doing the same thing at the same place since 1974.
> Why? Most people in that type of position move on to bigger
> and better things.
>
> I noted that he did regret that he had not participated in
> the equity portion of the Broadcasting equation. I can
> understand his sentiment of colleagues an friends getting
> rich while he remained the loyal president of the local
> radio station for 33 years!
>
> He has been the quintessential, loyal employee, trooper, and
> survivor thru multiple changes of ownership. His record
> speaks for itself, but what does he have to show for it?
> Sadly, the corporations have reaped the benefits of his
> success, but he has not advanced his position in the
> industry over the last 30 years.
>
> Yes, he has probably been pulling down more in compensation
> and stock over the years, but he has not become a major
> equity participant (i.e. ownership), and probably never will.
>
> Most of this could probably a testament to the unpopularity
> of radio more than anything. Radio is Radio, but other
> employees of media firms have "succeded"* due, in part, to
> the meteoric rise of their marketplaces (e.g. Eisner,
> Geffen, Lasetter).
>
> * Succeeded defined as Equity positions in their firm > $500M
>
John Higdon said it quite eloquently; Running KGO is a major career
achievement and nothing to be scoffed at.
Maintaining KGO as the #1 station in US market #4 for a quarter decade and
more is no insignificant achievement. There are plenty of things worse than
making a good living and residing in San Francisco, too.
To many, being in the same city, building friendships and giving one's
family a good place to live are thing more important than stock options. and
sheer wealth.
Most managers get bonuses based on revenue and cash flow, so I would assume
Mickey got a fair participation in the profits achieved by his fine
management of KGO.
As to Disney, the cost of any of the many yearly films exceeds the gross
billings of KGO. Put in perspective, KGO was a tiny part of Disney, but a
big part of San Francisco.
Mike Ward
<da...@davideduardo.com> wrote:
>I believe he was indicating that the syndicated programming they have or
>have had is done at KGO, whether syndicated by them or other companies.
While that may or may not be technically correct, it's basically true.
Only two regular programs don't originate in (or through) that
building, and that would be the Bay Area's own Dr. Dean Edell, and
ABC's Bob Brinker.
Though Dr. Dean is indeed in the Bay Area, his program goes through
Premiere (presumably from a home studio in Marin County). With his
long association with KGO, it's reasonable to call him pretty much an
in-house show even despite that.
Though he's never broadcast from there, KGO's parent company does
syndicate Bob Brinker's program. And that's still the case, with the
assumption of both into Citadel. KGO is one of Bob's strongest
affiliates, and they've had a long relationship.
So, put an asterisk next to it, but a rather modest one. Compared to
almost every other station in the country, KGO is basically full-time
live and local.
John Higdon
Mike Ward <mw...@iname.remove-this-part.com> wrote:
> Though Dr. Dean is indeed in the Bay Area, his program goes through
> Premiere (presumably from a home studio in Marin County). With his
> long association with KGO, it's reasonable to call him pretty much an
> in-house show even despite that.
One of the studios in the KGO/KSFO facility is still referred to as the
"Dean Edell" studio. You bring up an interesting point as well. The big
ego enhancer for a station and a local program is to have it go
syndicated. The downside, that many people forget, is that once this
happens, the program--even if done at the original station--is no longer
local. Perfect example: Savage. Someone once referred to Savage as a
local program on KNEW and I had to correct them. It is not.
Stations need to realize that once their morning show (for example) goes
syndicated that they no longer have a local morning show. And...there's
no way around it if the show is to have national appeal.
> Though he's never broadcast from there, KGO's parent company does
> syndicate Bob Brinker's program. And that's still the case, with the
> assumption of both into Citadel. KGO is one of Bob's strongest
> affiliates, and they've had a long relationship.
When Brinker visited the Bay Area not long ago and actually did his show
from KGO, he was very vocal about...as if it were a momentous event.
While he mentions local stations from many areas, he never fails to
throw in "KGO country" when he takes his first Bay Area call of the
program. There is a great affinity there.
> So, put an asterisk next to it, but a rather modest one. Compared to
> almost every other station in the country, KGO is basically full-time
> live and local.
Except for the Dean Edell hour, the hourly network four-minute
newscasts, and about 30 minutes of Paul Harvey each day, the station is
100% locally-produced. All five talk shows on weekdays are local. What's
#2 in the market in that respect isn't even close.
RWW
> Except for the Dean Edell hour, the hourly network four-minute
> newscasts, and about 30 minutes of Paul Harvey each day, the station is
> 100% locally-produced.
I didn't realize that the Money Talk program on weekend afternoons
was locally produced at KGO.
I always thought it was produced by someone else, and KGO along with
many of the other big talk stations bought it -- I remember listening
to it religeously on WHO and WOC.
John Higdon
RWW <R...@rww.net> wrote:
> I didn't realize that the Money Talk program on weekend afternoons
> was locally produced at KGO.
It's produced back east. My comments applied to weekdays. Weekends do
include Brinker's show as well as Leo Laporte (on Sunday only). But even
so, both days include many locally produced talkshow, something found
nowhere else on Bay Area radio amidst the "best of" and informercials.
> I always thought it was produced by someone else, and KGO along with
> many of the other big talk stations bought it -- I remember listening
> to it religeously on WHO and WOC.
It is produced by the same company that owns KGO.
RWW
> In article <pvfbj.81137$Um6....@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>,
> RWW <R...@rww.net> wrote:
>
>>I didn't realize that the Money Talk program on weekend afternoons
>>was locally produced at KGO.
>
> It's produced back east. My comments applied to weekdays. Weekends do
> include Brinker's show as well as Leo Laporte (on Sunday only). But even
> so, both days include many locally produced talkshow, something found
> nowhere else on Bay Area radio amidst the "best of" and informercials.
That's what I thought. These were the counter-examples I had in
mind when Mickey said "KGO does *NO* syndicated programming
which it doesn't produce itself" Emphasis on *NO* was Mickey's,
indicating that *NO* syndication was something that made the station
unique.
When someone says it with such emphasis, it is usually taken
as a serious claim. Like sugar-free, as opposed to mostly
sugar-free, or almost sugar-free. Or, "I've never been pulled
over", when you really meant "I've only been pulled over twice
in 40 years".
Not a big deal, but it just bugs me when people in the media
state things that they know aren't quite true; as if the little
subtle inaccuracies are irrelevant to the public.
David Eduardo
¿>
> When someone says it with such emphasis, it is usually taken
> as a serious claim. Like sugar-free, as opposed to mostly
> sugar-free, or almost sugar-free. Or, "I've never been pulled
> over", when you really meant "I've only been pulled over twice
> in 40 years".
Money Talk, I believe, is produced "by outselves" as in "by the company that
we are a part of."
When I speak of "Things we product ourselves" I would be meaning anything
done in any of our markets inside our company, too.. You are applying an
unnecessarily strict standard... one that seeming no one but yourself is
concerned about.
As Mr. Higdon says, the occasional weekend show does not break the genaeral
rule. There are few talk stations in America that produce such a high
percentage of local talk at KGO. I am often critical of those who overly
venerate this station, but its programming, success and longevity are indeed
exceptional , particularly when compared to the other talk offernings in the
market. Within its type, it is a heck of a radio station.
John Higdon
wrote:
> Not a big deal, but it just bugs me when people in the media
> state things that they know aren't quite true; as if the little
> subtle inaccuracies are irrelevant to the public.
I'm going to give him a complete pass on it. Every one of KGO's
competitors literally writes off the weekends en todo. They don't even
have real programs, syndicated or local. I think I'll let KGO's boss
make a claim that applies to the weekdays.
peterh5322
>> Though he's never broadcast from there, KGO's parent company does
>> syndicate Bob Brinker's program. And that's still the case, with the
>> assumption of both into Citadel. KGO is one of Bob's strongest
>> affiliates, and they've had a long relationship.
>
> When Brinker visited the Bay Area not long ago and actually did his show
> from KGO, he was very vocal about...as if it were a momentous event.
> While he mentions local stations from many areas, he never fails to
> throw in "KGO country" when he takes his first Bay Area call of the
> program. There is a great affinity there.
Bob only occasionally comes out of his "bunker" in Las Vegas to do
promotions for ABC affiliates.
Bob has done promotions for affiliates other than KGO, but he has, by a
long distance, done more promotions for KGO in general, and KGO's
Leukemia Telethon in particular. I believe he has also mentioned KGO's
Thanksgiving appeal (run by Bernie in the past).
Bob's first program was on WMCA radio, in his pre-ABC days. Thereafter,
Bob moved to WABC, but his show was then owned by ABC, and it still is.
While ABC owns "Bob Brinker's MoneyTalk", Bob owns "Bob Brinker's
MarketTimer®" and Bob Jr recently started a fixed income version of
Bob's MarketTimer concept.
Actually, Bob doesn't believe in, nor does he promote market timing.
His model portfolios are all essentially "buy and hold" portfolios,
with occasional adjustments where the component securities fail to meet
their benchbarks for two periods.
Bob also recommends portfolios which are based upon just a few Vanguard
mutual funds, and these portfolios have generally out-performed
competitive portfolios on account of their exceptionally low costs.
leansto...@democrat.com
wrote:
The first thing that comes to my mind is who else in the business has
been able to keep that position for so long. [Exclude family owned
radio stations.]
I can only think of two real stinkers Luckoff has done, namely putting
David Gold and George Weber on KGO. I wish I only made one mistake
every decade. ;-)
John Higdon
<e9146f89-c497-433a...@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
"leansto...@democrat.com" <leansto...@democrat.com> wrote:
> I can only think of two real stinkers Luckoff has done, namely putting
> David Gold and George Weber on KGO. I wish I only made one mistake
> every decade. ;-)
And that might not have been Mickey who did that.
peterh5322
>
>> I can only think of two real stinkers Luckoff has done, namely putting
>> David Gold and George Weber on KGO. I wish I only made one mistake
>> every decade. ;-)
>
> And that might not have been Mickey who did that.
Probably pressure from the top, in particular reference to Gold
(probably sat-casting his program from O&O WBAP in DFW, much as "Uncle
Bernie" Ward sat cast to ABC O&Os from SFO).
John Slade
> John Slade wrote:
>
>> "DavidFJackson" <david.ferr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:41748331-2f3a-4345...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>Michael Zwerling interviewed KGO's Mickey Luckoff for two hours last
>>>Saturday morning on KSCO/1080 in Santa Cruz. You may backload the MP3
>>>of it at:
>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/yvjczs
>
>> What exactly does Mickey Luckoff do again?
>
> He has been doing the same thing at the same place since 1974.
> Why? Most people in that type of position move on to bigger
> and better things.
No I was asking what he did at KGO. I've heard his name mentioned in
here from time to time and forgot exactly what his title was. I see now from
a search what his title is. I know he's won all sorts of awards for his job
as President and General Manager of KGO.
John
John Slade
"David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
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Well I have to say that Luckoff probably has a pretty easy job given
the talent at KGO.
John
Peter
>>
>> John Higdon said it quite eloquently; Running KGO is a major career
>> achievement and nothing to be scoffed at.
>>
>> Maintaining KGO as the #1 station in US market #4 for a quarter decade and
>> more is no insignificant achievement. There are plenty of things worse
>> than making a good living and residing in San Francisco, too.
>
> Well I have to say that Luckoff probably has a pretty easy job given
> the talent at KGO.
In a recent appearance on Ronn Owens' show, Luckoff was asked these
questions towards the end of the interview.
Paraphrasing:
1) Q: "Your major career achievement?" A: "KGO's success over the past
quarter decade".
2) Q: "Your major career regret?" A: "Achieving this success with
someone else's station, not my own".
The likelihood that Luckoff could take-over a KSCO and achieve the same
kind of success is doubtful.
Not enough listener base, regardless of the 10,000 watts (or 50,000,
for that matter) and a salt water ground.
Now, if Luckoff could takeover a KFBK, I think he could have a pretty
good go at it.
But, not a KSCO.
KMJ recently changed hands, and that could have been a good move for Luckoff.
The physical plant was already in place, thanks to Joe Mauk and CBS'
deep pockets, and it covers the central portion of the Central Valley
like a glove (and is also preventing L.A.'s 570 and San Francisco's 560
from making any significant improvements in their respective
facilities).
Stratum
> I can only think of two real stinkers Luckoff has done, namely putting
> David Gold and George Weber on KGO. I wish I only made one mistake
> every decade. ;-)
"[David Gold] is a Jewish man who is apparently at least sixty or
seventy years old. He is married to rabbi Rachel Gilman and together
they have many children and grandchildren. The family hails from the
Bronx in New York City. One of his granddaughters is married to a
Klingon named Khor.
David Gold rarely interferes with the engineers' tasks and maintains a
good camaraderie with the crew. However, on one occasion he had an
argument with Doctor Elizabeth Lense about genetic engineering, which
Lense told him was necessary to save a dying race, but Gold felt was
unethical. Gold eventually gave in and let Lense proceed on the work."
From the Wikipedia entry for David Gold
John Higdon
Peter <peter...@rattlebrain.comminch> wrote:
> KMJ recently changed hands, and that could have been a good move for Luckoff.
Unfortunately, it is Fresno, not San Francisco. Mickey is very much
attached to the city.
David Eduardo
"John Slade" <sa...@candyman.com> wrote in message
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>
> "David Eduardo" <da...@davideduardo.com> wrote in message
> news:ABdbj.410$pA7...@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>> and more is no insignificant achievement. There are plenty of things
>> worse than making a good living and residing in San Francisco, too.
>
> Well I have to say that Luckoff probably has a pretty easy job given
> the talent at KGO.
>
That's a seemingly accurate comment that is actually totally false and the
opposite of your assumptions.
Often the most important skill of a manger is knowing who to hire... the PD,
the talent, the sellers, the back office people, and then providing them
with a great work environment. If it were as easy as you think, every
station would have a crack at being number one.
David Eduardo
"Peter" <peter...@rattlebrain.comminch> wrote in message
news:2007122408213116807-peterh5322@rattlebraincomminch...
>
> KMJ recently changed hands, and that could have been a good move for
> Luckoff.
Would you want to move from San Francisco to Fresno?
>
> The physical plant was already in place, thanks to Joe Mauk and CBS' deep
> pockets, and it covers the central portion of the Central Valley like a
> glove (and is also preventing L.A.'s 570 and San Francisco's 560 from
> making any significant improvements in their respective facilities).
Irrespective of coverage, they really only can sell the Fresno market.
Ciccio
news:2007122408213116807-peterh5322@rattlebraincomminch...
> 2) Q: "Your major career regret?" A: "Achieving this success with someone
> else's station, not my own".
It was interesting that during the KSCO interview, he indicated that his
telling Rush Limbaugh "Thanks, but no thanks," is a big regret...No kidding.
Ciccio
RWW
Twice. Once in the beginning ('radio is a local market and
syndication will never work'), and again later after he was
on KGO weekends and Mickey wouldn't give him a 5 day weekday
show ('you aren't ready').
Mike Ward
>Twice. Once in the beginning ('radio is a local market and
>syndication will never work'), and again later after he was
>on KGO weekends and Mickey wouldn't give him a 5 day weekday
>show ('you aren't ready').
Hindsight, 20/20 and all that.
I think Mr. Luckhoff has been able to "console himself" with the fact
that he did eventually pick up Rush for his second station...and that
alongside it, KGO continued to prosper with its nearly totally local
roster.
RWW
> On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:00:35 GMT, RWW <R...@rww.net> wrote:
>
>>Twice. Once in the beginning ('radio is a local market and
>>syndication will never work'), and again later after he was
>>on KGO weekends and Mickey wouldn't give him a 5 day weekday
>>show ('you aren't ready').
>
> Hindsight, 20/20 and all that.
>
> I think Mr. Luckhoff has been able to "console himself" with the fact
> that he did eventually pick up Rush for his second station...
I'm assuming that this must be a big deal, but it doesn't seem
that big. He paid enough money to beat out a sports
station to carry Rush.
I wonder what the deal was with Savage when he was turned away?
Mike Ward
>I'm assuming that this must be a big deal, but it doesn't seem
>that big. He paid enough money to beat out a sports
>station to carry Rush.
And Rush's presence in the KSFO lineup cemented that station as a top
5 station, along with Lee and Melanie in the morning.
That gave ABC Radio/SF two of the top five stations in the market.
And...
>I wonder what the deal was with Savage when he was turned away?
No idea.
I just responded because I was trying to grab and remove the errant
"h" I added to Mr. Luckoff's name in the previous. Ah, well. Usenet
isn't THAT interactive.
:D
John Higdon
RWW <R...@rww.net> wrote:
> I wonder what the deal was with Savage when he was turned away?
Not a big mystery at all. Savage's contract ran out at KSFO and he
wanted too much money to renew. Jack Swanson said, "Bye!", and that was
that. KNEW, which was more than happy to pay any exorbitant price to
"show up" KSFO, bent over and spread 'em. When Savage went syndicated,
KNEW took it in the shorts again, losing its only local program. Pick up
any ratings sheet and see how they've just set the world on fire with
Savage!
It was pretty much the same story as when Krasney tried to hold up KGO.
It all came down to money.
peterh5322
<mw...@iname.remove-this-part.com> said:
>> I'm assuming that this must be a big deal, but it doesn't seem
>> that big. He paid enough money to beat out a sports
>> station to carry Rush.
>
> And Rush's presence in the KSFO lineup cemented that station as a top
> 5 station, along with Lee and Melanie in the morning.
>
> That gave ABC Radio/SF two of the top five stations in the market.
Luckoff's leadership, and great sense of timing, brought KKK-SFO from
obscurity to near the top, in a VERY brief time, even with an
absolutely atrocious signal, which is damned near unusable in the third
largest city in this entire State, and the tenth largest city in this
entire Nation.
OTOH, CBS' leadership, and Joe Mauk's technical ingenuity in the design
of the KMJ 50 kW upgrade, ensured that KKK-SFO would never be more than
it is now.
And, KKK-SFO very well could be a lot less than it is now, given the
possibility of its losing its site.
John Higdon
peterh5322 <peter...@rattlebrain.comminch> wrote:
> And, KKK-SFO very well could be a lot less than it is now, given the
> possibility of its losing its site.
Among its other faults, the biggest problem with that site is the smell.
DavidFJackson
> The likelihood that Luckoff could take-over a KSCO and achieve the same
> kind of success is doubtful.
>
> Not enough listener base, regardless of the 10,000 watts (or 50,000,
> for that matter) and a salt water ground.
Mmm-hmmmm. And there's absolutely no opportunity for a creative
individual (or group of individuals) to purchase KSCO and move it over
the hill to San Jose, with decent coverage of San Francisco?
Of course, he could just buy KTRB and not worry about re-engineering
KSCO...
DJ
DavidFJackson
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> peterh5322 <peterh5...@rattlebrain.comminch> wrote:
> > And, KKK-SFO very well could be a lot less than it is now, given the
> > possibility of its losing its site.
>
> Among its other faults, the biggest problem with that site is the smell.
...Which won't be a problem once KSFO moves to Collinsville, yes?