KGO confusion

[Patty Winter]

I was out of town for the past several days. I saw some postings
about the changes at the SF Cumulus stations but wasn't able to
hear what was going on on them.

Last night KGO was playing excerpts from speeches (such as Steve
Jobs' Stanford graduation speech) and talking about "the next
generation of KGO" to debut on Tuesday morning at 6:00 a.m. I
wondered why it was happening Tuesday instead of today; is it
because they're still trying to figure out what they're doing?

I read about Ronn moving to KSFO, but I just heard him doing a
promo on KGO. There was also one from Armstrong and Getty, and
a third from someone named Ethan Beerman. (Okay, I just googled
him; it's "Bearman.")

So are things still in flux?


Patty

[David Kaye]

"Patty Winter" <pat...@sonic.net> wrote

> I was out of town for the past several days. I saw some postings
> about the changes at the SF Cumulus stations but wasn't able to
> hear what was going on on them.

No Internet available? KGO has been streaming its audio all along.

[Neil]

I wrote something up in response to another thread ("Ronn moving to
KSFO"), but it hasn't cleared through Usenet yet. The short answer is
yes, they are royally screwed up. Ronn's contract apparently prohibits
Cumulus from moving him to another of their stations, and Ronn's agent
pointed that fact out to Cumulus. Apparently no one thought to read the
contract (and that includes Ronn) before announcing the move.

(Lieberman's been all over this story; if he learned basic grammar and
suppressed his urge to diss everyone who hasn't bought him lunch, maybe
he'd grow into a decent journalist.)

When you scratch the surface at "The New Generation of KGO", it looks an
awful lot like the old generation of KGO. Not the real old generation,
when they had actual talent, but last week's generation. Bearman and
Copeland are weekenders, Owens, Franklin and Drex are continuing in
slightly different time slots, and A&G are just moving down the dial a
hundred kilohertz. Probably the same dreck in the overnights too.

The stunting was interesting for the first eight minutes.

[Patty Winter]

In article <5702cba2$0$45010$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

Neil <weis...@noonehere.sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>I wrote something up in response to another thread ("Ronn moving to
>KSFO"), but it hasn't cleared through Usenet yet. The short answer is
>yes, they are royally screwed up. Ronn's contract apparently prohibits
>Cumulus from moving him to another of their stations, and Ronn's agent
>pointed that fact out to Cumulus. Apparently no one thought to read the
>contract (and that includes Ronn) before announcing the move.

Ouch! So they were probably going to put A&G in Ronn's slot, but that
has changed?

>When you scratch the surface at "The New Generation of KGO", it looks an
>awful lot like the old generation of KGO. Not the real old generation,
>when they had actual talent, but last week's generation. Bearman and
>Copeland are weekenders, Owens, Franklin and Drex are continuing in
>slightly different time slots, and A&G are just moving down the dial a
>hundred kilohertz. Probably the same dreck in the overnights too.

With Ronn staying, does that mean that one person who was going to get
a slot has now lost out? Maybe even a woman? There don't seem to be any
on the new schedule... :-(

Thanks for the info, Neil!


Patty

[Neil]

IIRC, A&G were going to do 5-9, and then there's a "clip/highlights"
aftershow hour from 9-10 that airs on KSTE, but didn't on KKSF, hosted
by their producer. Bearman was going to do 10 am-1 pm, Copie 1-4, then
Franklin 4-7. So now Ronn loses an hour and keeps 10-Noon, Bearman 12-2,
Copie 2-4, then Franklin 4-7 and Drex 7-10. I imagine Batchelor is still
on in the late nights, and for all I know they'll continue running the
Best Of somebody's show. So where's the New Generation in there? (Unless
they all do their programs under the influence of Pepsi-Cola. Maybe
they'll come alive and think young too.)

[Patty Winter]

In article <57034d29$0$45017$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

Neil <weis...@noonehere.sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>IIRC, A&G were going to do 5-9, and then there's a "clip/highlights"
>aftershow hour from 9-10 that airs on KSTE, but didn't on KKSF, hosted
>by their producer. Bearman was going to do 10 am-1 pm, Copie 1-4, then
>Franklin 4-7. So now Ronn loses an hour and keeps 10-Noon, Bearman 12-2,
>Copie 2-4, then Franklin 4-7 and Drex 7-10. I imagine Batchelor is still
>on in the late nights, and for all I know they'll continue running the
>Best Of somebody's show.

Oh, that's right, they'd be doing a "Best of Ronn Owens" hour or two
between Batchelor and the morning news, right? Guess they'll do something
like that. Let's see whether their website has caught up yet...Okay, no
sign of a schedule, but I do notice that Pat Thurston, Michael Finney,
and Maureen Langan are still listed under "Shows," so apparently their
weekend gigs are still intact.

(Hah, I just noticed that the "On Air" banner at the top of the KGO
website says, "Now playing: KGO Morning News." Time to send an updated
schedule to the webmaster...)

BTW, although A&G were already on a San Francisco station in addition
to Sacto, are they swinging their topics more towards the Bay Area now
that they're on a bigger station here? I just heard them mention BART
and San Jose. Were they doing a lot of Bay Area references on KKSF, too?


Patty

[David Kaye]

"Patty Winter" <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote

> BTW, although A&G were already on a San Francisco station in addition
> to Sacto, are they swinging their topics more towards the Bay Area now
> that they're on a bigger station here? I just heard them mention BART
> and San Jose. Were they doing a lot of Bay Area references on KKSF, too?

The probably won't keep that up for long, given that they air in Hawaii,
Portland, etc. As to Bay Area references on KKSF I never listened long
enough to find out.

[David Kaye]

"Neil" <weis...@noonehere.sonic.net> wrote

> So where's the New Generation in there?

Maybe "New Generation" refers to a new program director?

[Patty Winter]

Ronn said this morning that his contract did allow Cumulus to move
him to certain timeslots on KSFO, but the GM changed his mind after
the outcry from KGO listeners. Not having access to the contract, I
don't know which story is true. At least the situation seems to have
been sorted out.

Oh, what did this do to the KSFO schedule? Is the previous lineup
remaining intact, or had Cumulus already dropped some afternoon show
in anticipation of Ronn's move and had to scramble to fill the gap?
I looked at their website, but since I don't know what their lineup
was last week, I don't know whether it's changed. I only know that
Ronn said he would be following Michael Savage.


Patty

[Travis James]

They like to refer to themselves as "the voice of the west." In other
words, they've been working out their radio presence on the west coast.
They're gone in Hawaii. That station went sports. The build out has
roughly been: Sac, SF, San Diego, Monterey, San Diego, Phoenix
(barely), and recently LA and Portland. They mentioned the desire for
Fresno and Bakersfield too, but that hasn't happened yet.

Subject matter does include SF and Sac but only in the context of being
of general interest. And Sac really is state politics such as Jerry
Brown, pension deficit, high speed rail. It's been the Trump-o-Rama
though the past year.

[Travis James]

On 2016-04-05 13:53:53 +0000, Patty Winter said:

> In article <57034d29$0$45017$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Neil <weis...@noonehere.sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>> IIRC, A&G were going to do 5-9, and then there's a "clip/highlights"
>> aftershow hour from 9-10 that airs on KSTE, but didn't on KKSF, hosted
>> by their producer. Bearman was going to do 10 am-1 pm, Copie 1-4, then
>> Franklin 4-7. So now Ronn loses an hour and keeps 10-Noon, Bearman 12-2,
>> Copie 2-4, then Franklin 4-7 and Drex 7-10. I imagine Batchelor is still
>> on in the late nights, and for all I know they'll continue running the
>> Best Of somebody's show.

Today they did an SF only inaugural show. All other stations were best
of. They'll be 6-10a. Ronn was on during the 9a hour discussing his
angle of what happened including how he ended up where he is now.

[David Kaye]

"Travis James" <travis...@gmail.com> wrote

> They like to refer to themselves as "the voice of the west." In other
> words, they've been working out their radio presence on the west coast.
> They're gone in Hawaii. That station went sports. The build out has
> roughly been: Sac, SF, San Diego, Monterey, San Diego, Phoenix (barely),
> and recently LA and Portland. They mentioned the desire for Fresno and
> Bakersfield too, but that hasn't happened yet.

They've been on in Modesto but no mention on their website about it.
They're no longer on there.