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"The Chain That Binds,Cycling and Coffee's Unlikely Partnership" Article in Fresh Cup Magazine--No autographs please.

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Mar 9, 2008, 11:30:35 AM3/9/08
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There's a good article about bicycling and coffee in this month's _Fresh
Cup_ magazine. Naturally it mentions "http://bicyclecoffeesystems.com"!

I was interviewed by the author for the article, though only a little of
the interview made it into the article. No autographs please.

Note: helmets are mentioned in the article only once, in the context of
coffee house owners being advised to have hooks for cyclists to hang
their helmets, jackets, etc.

Whole populations surveys shows that cyclists that drink coffee live longer.

The article is at:
"http://www.freshcup.com/back-issues/2008/2008-03/chain_that_binds.htm"

Jym Dyer

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Mar 9, 2008, 1:52:41 PM3/9/08
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=v= Nice. Velo Rouge in San Francisco is truly a trip, and
they have Blue Bottle coffee. Blue Bottle itself now has two
locations in the city, the first (on Linden Alley) is slated
to become something of a woonerf and the second (at Mint Plaza)
has prompted the installation of bike racks.

=v= There's also the Mojo Bicycle Café, which has coffee up
front and a bike shop out back. A biker who moved from Portland
to S.F. founded Ritual Roasters, which trucks in Stumptown beans
and attracts a large fixie-rider following.

| Jim Porter of Soma Fabrications, a San Francisco Bay area bike
| frame and accessories designer that makes a "Morning Rush"
| coffee mug and holder for bicycles ...

=v= The holder's good, but as http://bicyclecoffeesystems.com/
indicates, stainless-steel is better than plastic. :-\
<_Jym_>

P.S.: For folks in the middle of the U.S., Just Coffee has a
"Revolution Roast" that is tailored to the needs of community
bike program wrenches.

Bill Sornson

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Mar 9, 2008, 2:38:42 PM3/9/08
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SMS wrote:

> Whole populations surveys shows that cyclists that drink coffee live
> longer.

Finally a study beyond reproach!


A Muzi

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Mar 9, 2008, 5:04:43 PM3/9/08
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SMS wrote:
-snip-

> Whole populations surveys shows that cyclists that drink coffee live
> longer.
> The article is at:
> "http://www.freshcup.com/back-issues/2008/2008-03/chain_that_binds.htm"

If I quit my 4-5 double espresso/day habit I might be spared the last
few years of babbling and drooling in a diaper? Gotta think about that...
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tom Keats

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Mar 9, 2008, 9:53:33 PM3/9/08
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In article <13t8k6i...@corp.supernews.com>,

A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> writes:
> SMS wrote:
> -snip-
>> Whole populations surveys shows that cyclists that drink coffee live
>> longer.
>> The article is at:
>> "http://www.freshcup.com/back-issues/2008/2008-03/chain_that_binds.htm"
>
> If I quit my 4-5 double espresso/day habit I might be spared the last
> few years of babbling and drooling in a diaper? Gotta think about that...

I don't believe diapers are meant for
babbling & drooling into. However,
I suppose it could be done. Maybe it
could even become an art form. Maybe
Alan Ginsberg has already done it.
I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyways a nice cuppa quoffee is for enjoying
right now, not some time in the distant future.

If I wanted to extend my allotted time in this
vale of tears, lose weight and ward off various
cancers, I'd switch to green tea. But I don't
gotta do any o' that razmatazz. Besides, the
political encumberances & ramifications of
the coffee trade are well-documented. I'm not
so sure about green tea.

So <raising my Bean Around The World travel mug>
here's to our affection for a good cup of eye-opener.

Sometimes green tea is nice too. Especially after
eating curried stuff.


cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats shifted-'2' vcn unshifted-'>' bc unshifted-> '>' ca

Andre Jute

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Mar 9, 2008, 10:28:55 PM3/9/08
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On Mar 9, 3:30 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> There's a good article about bicycling and coffee in this month's _Fresh
> Cup_ magazine. Naturally it mentions "http://bicyclecoffeesystems.com"!
>
> I was interviewed by the author for the article, though only a little of
> the interview made it into the article. No autographs please.

We'll just bask in your fame. At the crossroads: "Oh, Steven, yeah, I
know him. He's a cafe racer. Mind you, I bought the lights he
recommended for my bike. He knows about bike lights and coffee."

....

> Whole populations surveys shows that cyclists that drink coffee live longer.

This sort of statement is not permitted in the Krygo-Fogel Skool of
Obstruktive Statistiks. See, high blood pressure kills people, regular
exercise lowers blood pressure, bicyling is the best exercise after
housework, the relationship of coffee intake to high blood pressure
is mysterious, so therefore drinking ocffee kills cyclists. QED, a
famous case study in the Krygo-Fogel Skool of Obstruktive Statistiks.

Andre Jute
Merit Certifikate of Obfuskashun, Krygo-Fogel Skool of Obstruktive
Statistiks

Not sent to aus.bicycle -- sorry, I can only send to five groups

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604

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Mar 10, 2008, 1:45:52 PM3/10/08
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"One more cup of coffee for the road,
One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
To the valley below."
Bob Dylan, 1975

I just had to post this.

73, doug

me

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Mar 11, 2008, 12:29:36 AM3/11/08
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That's funny, I was just thinking recently that if i opened a bike shop
round here, that a coffee shop would complement it perfectly.

PeteSig

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Mar 11, 2008, 5:53:23 AM3/11/08
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"me" <m...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> That's funny, I was just thinking recently that if i opened a bike shop
> round here, that a coffee shop would complement it perfectly.

Don't know where 'here' is, but it has been done, quite successfully:
http://www.cogbikecafe.com.au/

Beside the Warburton Rail Trail at Mt Evelyn, a very cool coffee shop.

--
Cheers
Peter

~~~ ~ _@
~~ ~ _- \,
~~ (*)/ (*)


John Henderson

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Mar 11, 2008, 2:59:06 PM3/11/08
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PeteSig wrote:

> "me" <m...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's funny, I was just thinking recently that if i opened a
>> bike shop round here, that a coffee shop would complement it
>> perfectly.
>
> Don't know where 'here' is, but it has been done, quite
> successfully: http://www.cogbikecafe.com.au/
>
> Beside the Warburton Rail Trail at Mt Evelyn, a very cool
> coffee shop.

For non-Victorians, wondering about its whereabouts:
http://www.railtrails.org.au/states/trails.php3?action=trail&trail=6

John

Jeremy Parker

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Mar 12, 2008, 9:47:01 AM3/12/08
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> That's funny, I was just thinking recently that if i opened a bike
> shop
> round here, that a coffee shop would complement it perfectly.

Bristol UK has a combined bike/coffee shop, The Mud Dock. Ideal for
the bike poseur who wants to keep their bike immaculately clean.
Just sit by the dock, looking at the boats, and drinking coffee,
rather than actually riding.

Jeremy Parker


Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604

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Mar 13, 2008, 11:49:42 AM3/13/08
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"Jeremy Parker" <Jeremy...@compuserve.com> writes:

Back in the day, many folding bike rides started or ended there.

73, doug

SMS

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Mar 15, 2008, 9:19:33 AM3/15/08
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On Mar 9, 7:28 pm, Andre Jute <fiul...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> We'll just bask in your fame. At the crossroads: "Oh, Steven, yeah, I
> know him. He's a cafe racer. Mind you, I bought the lights he
> recommended for my bike. He knows about bike lights and coffee."

World fame apparently. I'm in Taipei now for the big international
bicycle show, and I was talking to an Australian at one of the booths.
He consults for a Taiwanese company that exports double-wall vacuum
bottles and a special cage attachment. I mentioned that his product
belonged on my web site, and he of course asked about the web site,
and when I told him the URL, he said, "you must be Steve, I've been to
your site. It's famous."

His product is at "http://www.ibera.info/products.php?
action=show&pid=54".

Jym Dyer

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Jul 2, 2009, 12:39:47 PM7/2/09
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[Returning to a Year-Old Thread with New Information!]

I wrote:
> Blue Bottle coffee ... now has two locations in the city,


> the first (on Linden Alley) is slated to become something
> of a woonerf and the second (at Mint Plaza) has prompted
> the installation of bike racks.

=v= Since this is San Francisco (the city talks a good game
but isn't as good on the follow-through), the woonerf still
hasn't happened. Linden Alley was the last stop on our first
Tour d'Espresso ride, though:

http://tinyurl.com/tourdespresso

> =v= There's also the Mojo Bicycle Caf�, which has coffee


> up front and a bike shop out back. A biker who moved from
> Portland to S.F. founded Ritual Roasters, which trucks in
> Stumptown beans and attracts a large fixie-rider following.

=v= Ritual is still fixie-licious. Mojo is using Ritual for
drip coffee, but their espresso is from De La Paz, a relative
newcomer on the coffee scene. AND on the bike scene! They
deliver their coffee beans by bike. Here's the Mission Mission
blog's take on it:

http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/de-la-paz-coffee-company-the-only-coffee-outfit-in-town-run-by-a-grown-man/

My friend Greg is their new delivery guy:

http://www.delapazcoffee.com/blog/

=v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on bikes.
I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:

http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s

The inside is metal, not plastic, the lid works better than
most, and the silicone grip is positioned just right for it
to fit into most water bottle cages. In the Bay Area, they
sell this at some Peet's Coffee shops, and if you bike up
Highway 1 to Mendocino, you'll find that Thanksgiving Coffee
sells them, too!
<_Jym_>

Tom Sherman °_°

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Jul 2, 2009, 11:52:01 PM7/2/09
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Jym Dyer wrote:
> [...]

> =v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on bikes.
> I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s
>
> The inside is metal,[...]

18/8 (aka AISI 304) stainless steel, the same stuff DT, Sapim and
Wheelsmith make spokes from. Also commonly used for cookware, sinks,
etc. due to its high ductility.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

d p chang

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Jul 3, 2009, 12:02:50 AM7/3/09
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Jym Dyer <j...@econet.org> writes:

> [Returning to a Year-Old Thread with New Information!]
>

> =v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on bikes.
> I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s
>
> The inside is metal, not plastic, the lid works better than
> most, and the silicone grip is positioned just right for it
> to fit into most water bottle cages.

'better' than a regular cage are the profile plastic cages. on the seat
tube it fits in perfectly.

\p
---
If there is any point to using langauge at all it is that words are
taken to stand for certain thoughts and ideas and not for other thoughts
and ideas. - Tom Stoppard

SMS

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:26:55 AM7/3/09
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Tom Sherman �_� wrote:
> Jym Dyer wrote:
>> [...]
>> =v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on bikes.
>> I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s
>>
>> The inside is metal,[...]
>
> 18/8 (aka AISI 304) stainless steel, the same stuff DT, Sapim and
> Wheelsmith make spokes from. Also commonly used for cookware, sinks,
> etc. due to its high ductility.

The problem with that Thermos/Nissan cup is that a) it's not leakproof,
and b) it's not well suited to drinking while riding because there's no
spout.

SMS

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:29:00 AM7/3/09
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Tom Sherman �_� wrote:
> Jym Dyer wrote:
>> [...]
>> =v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on bikes.
>> I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s
>>
>> The inside is metal,[...]
>
> 18/8 (aka AISI 304) stainless steel, the same stuff DT, Sapim and
> Wheelsmith make spokes from. Also commonly used for cookware, sinks,
> etc. due to its high ductility.

The problem with that Thermos/Nissan cup is that a) it's not leakproof,

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604

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Jul 3, 2009, 2:46:13 AM7/3/09
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SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> writes:

I like the OXO cup- it fits a bottle cage and is leak-resistant.

73, doug

d p chang

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Jul 3, 2009, 9:30:28 AM7/3/09
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SMS <scharf...@geemail.com> writes:

hmmm... not leakproof, but i've found the little handle control handy
for drinking while riding. just enough flow control to prevent hot
liquids from just sloshing out a hole or whatever. it is a little
trickier to get 'all' of the coffee out, but then again the dregs are
often not worth it.

\p

---
To want to be like someone else is death. - George Balanchine

SMS

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Jul 3, 2009, 1:17:35 PM7/3/09
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It's rather amusing to look at all the double wall stainless steel
vacuum sports bottles with spouts and how the manufacturer or retailer
try to protect themselves regarding their use for hot beverages.

Many of the stainless steel vacuum bottles with nipples now say that
they are only for cold beverages. I believe that the reason for this is
safety and liability. They are concerned about the danger of someone
grabbing a bottle and taking a big swig of scalding liquid. Some of
these bottles keep the coffee extremely hot for a long period of time
and if someone other than the person that filled the bottle were to use
it without being aware how hot the beverage was they could suffer
serious burns in their mouth.

The disclaimer on the Thinksport bottle: "Please note that this bottle
will keep hot beverages hot. For safety purposes: Assume that the
temperature that you place in the bottle will still be that temperature
hours later."

The Thinksport would be a great bottle for bicycling if you used an
expandable cage (Topeak Modula EX, or Bell 'Expand-a-Cage').

Papa Tom

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:20:58 PM7/6/09
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I find the title of this really funny, as coffee certainly doesn't "bind"
me. Even decaf. If I'm going riding any time within the next couple of
days, you won't see me NEAR a cup of coffee...or a coffee maker....or a
store that SELLS coffee!!!!


Brian Huntley

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:54:09 PM7/6/09
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Funny - when touring, a nice cuppa black can be great just for that
reason. Those efficient camping/energy foods can be more binding than
is healthy, especially when coupled with partial dehydration and
unusual exertion.

It's all in the timing, though. Don't do this on the east end of
Rochester when heading west.

Papa Tom

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Jul 8, 2009, 3:41:16 PM7/8/09
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>>>>It's all in the timing, though. Don't do this on the east end of
>>>>Rochester when heading west.<<<<<

Well, if my full name didn't show up in each of these posts, I could tell
you some stories that would either have you splitting at the seams or
feeling really bad for me! Yeah...it's all in the timing. Like, don't
drink coffee unless you're no further from home than your garage!!


Jym Dyer

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Jul 17, 2009, 1:35:22 PM7/17/09
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>>> =v= We were also discussing ways to carry hot coffee on
>>> bikes. I have settled on this item from Thermos/Nissan:

http://tinyurl.com/th3rm0s

>>> The inside is metal, not plastic, the lid works better


>>> than most, and the silicone grip is positioned just right
>>> for it to fit into most water bottle cages.

> The problem with that Thermos/Nissan cup is that a) it's
> not leakproof, and b) it's not well suited to drinking while
> riding because there's no spout.

=v= Mine has never leaked, unless you mean in the sense of it
not being a sealed sippy-cup, in which case that's not really
how I like to drink my coffee anyhow.

=v= I saw one of these on the shelf the other day and found
that it's now made in China. :^(
<_Jym_>

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