Re: [openbadges] Coop Tool for Research and Development

[Sunny Lee]

Hi Flavio, 

Really great point you bring up. I'm adding the ba-research and ba-messaging working group communities to this request for good measure. 

Thanks. 

Sunny

On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Flavio Escribano <fescr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Community,

I was wondering if already exist any kind of cooperative tool in order to visualize every researches and developments any of us are working on. I just have seen Nate Otto presentation and his mention to BadgeRank concept (something we are involved on), Jesús Cea is working on OpenBadges running on Python (or at least that is I have understood from his slideshow), and so on... 

I think (if it doesn't already exist) we need something that allow us -just in a quick overview- to know who and on what are working related with Open Badges (of course). That is because Google Groups is not enought to meet these expectations. 

Let me know your concern about it please. 

Thanks a lot in advance!!

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[Nate Otto]

Hi, Flavio,

From the perspective of the research working group, building space for coordination and collaboration on research was one of the primary goals of the 2014 cycle. Academic researchers comprised most of our working group's membership, and so the first space we created for this kind of sharing is for published academic work, in a Mendeley reference collection. This site does lack automated features for submitting new items, but anybody who would like to point out new or missing resources can do so via the ba-research mailing list.

From that list, you can see a bunch of the people who are working in the digital badges space from an academic research standpoint. In the future, the research group hopes to make stronger connections with other research disciplines, including design and market research.

As far as collecting information around development (software packages), there is at least a list of issuing platforms on the Badge Alliance wiki. I believe issuing software is only 1/3 or less of the possible problems to be tackled in the Open Badges space, so if anybody else starts different collections listing other projects, I'll definitely take note.

I can't speak for them, but I bet the Badge Alliance folk wouldn't mind allowing use of their wiki, provided projects maintained a spirit of collaboration and were circumspect with their self-promotion, as they tend to be on these mailing lists.

Nate Otto, Developer

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On Sunday, December 21, 2014 8:05:00 AM UTC-8, threeqube27 wrote:

Hi Flavio, 

Really great point you bring up. I'm adding the ba-research and ba-messaging working group communities to this request for good measure. 

Thanks. 

Sunny

[fescr...@gmail.com]

Hi Nate, 

a pleasure to receive an email from you but I feel unfortunately your reply does not answer my question. 

None of the platform you have listed are cooperative tools for R+D project management. Mendeley is an excelent tool for bibliography sharing we usually use to share information about gamification (to give you an example): http://www.mendeley.com/groups/3411081/gamification/ But any of the members or followers of our group do 'more than' sharing other bibliographic references, instead of cooperating with any of the research tracks. 

Second one, you as programmer may know a mailing-list has not the needed features to achieve goals on any kind of dev proj. Searching for research&dev projects through mailing list can turn crazy anyone and more if you want to know the specific goals of a research group in addition... Mailing list are for casual interchanges and to keep the spirit alive (among others). 

Finally the list of Badge Platforms issuers are just that, just a list of platforms issuing badges but most of them are not researching projects. 

Let me give you my humble opinion about this. I think what we need (the people who want to use our resources to get Open Badges Tech forward) is to have a place to connect our achievements with others and help each other with our progress. Track others to help or learn about it and maybe (and just maybe) receive some recommendations by a high eye coordinator (Casilli?) or following conference conclusions. I will appreciate if some open badges are issued during the process :P 

What to obtain from a tool like this? 

• To know the name and goals of actual living projects of R+D around Open Badges
• To see the progress of any of the goals they scheduled by themselves and join/help on any of them
• To incorporate notes, comments, tickets and of course bibliography around
• To see people faces and maybe their agenda to meet them in any of the conferences, congress worlldwide
• To track if any of the projects/goals are losing steam

BTW this is my pretty face: http://goo.gl/p744je

I was thinking on using any coop tool as Trello, based on Kanban methodology. I was using Microsoft Project in the past but I think most of us here prefer to use some open alternative. 

Actually I am on vacations but when I back to office I'll ask our CTO in order to know his feelings. 

Thanks a lot all of you for your efforts!! 

[Nate Otto]

I understand what you mean. There isn't a current tool or workspace in use that does what you propose. I wanted to mention some things that are being used to get them in the conversation as a starting point.

As a developer of some projects using badges, I will be setting up project-specific tools, like public repos and bug tracker. I'm interested in participating in more cross-project collaborative spaces, but I won't commit to not being able to primarily use tools of my own choosing.

Serge and I are looking to have some cross-project conversations around defining public API endpoints and patterns, but we were thinking mailing lists and documentation might suffice. Open to discussion and more functional ideas of course.

Nate

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[fescr...@gmail.com]

Hi Nate, Anh and Karen,

and sorry for the delay on my reply, I was on vacations these days but now I'm back! :-) 

Thanks a lot for your comments and ideas! Please let me answer all of you:

I think there are some of us (Nate, Karen...) who are working (at least) in two very close (and relevant) topics from Open Badges concept: 1- A standarized code structure, 2- A model of relationships between the agents (badges, organizations, costs, etc.) for a Badge Ecosystem setup (this is exactly the point we are working on at GECON.es). 

On the other hands looks like a lot of efford is been wasted because the lack of information between the people around the same topics of interest, in addition I have some difficulties to attend Wednesdey calls (I try to listen when audios are uploaded and read the documentation remained, but this documentation appears fragmented according to a cooperative work perspective).

I signed up to Working Examples, but maybe we need a place to meet every group of R+D about OpenBadges at the same place, something more close to https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/The_Mozilla_platform or maybe having 'our' own place on it (Mozilla Platform). 

Could we discusse it on a HangOut any following Monday, Thuesday or Thursday (morning USA afternoon Europe) you like?

Thanks a lot!