One of the Pundits employed by Sayan for translating the Rigveda explains at what speed the sun light spreads on the earth. Rig Veda(I, 50-4) following sloka’s state about the speed of light
“Yojananam Dwe Dwe Shate Dwe Cha Yojane Aken Nimishardhena Krammana Namostute” (Rig-veda I,50-4)
in this verse, the speaker pays respect the Sun Light who moves 2202 yojans in Half of the Nimish. Nimisharda means half a nimesh.
In ancient Sanskrit "nimish" itself means "blink of an eye" and that "nimisharda" is used to represent how far light travels in half of the blink of an eye i.e. "within the blink of an eye" !!
In the Vedas, Yojana is a unit of distance and Nimisha is a unit of time.
Unit of Time: Nimish
The Moksha Dharma Parva of Shanti Parva in Mahabharata describes Nimish as follows:
15 Nimisha = 1 Kastha 30 Kashta = 1 Kala 30.3 Kala = 1 Muhurta 30 Muhurtas = 1 Diva-Ratri (Day-Night)
We know Day-Night is 24 hours
So, we get 24 hours = 30 x 30.3 x 30 x 15 nimish in other words 409050 nimish
We know 1 hour = 60 x 60 = 3600 seconds So 24 hours = 24 x 3600 seconds = 409050 nimish
409050 nimesh = 86,400 approx seconds
1/2 nimesh = 0.1065 approx seconds
Unit of Distance: Yojana
Yojana is defined in Chapter 6 of Book 1 of the ancient vedic text “Vishnu Purana” as follows
10 Paramáńus = 1 Parasúkshma 10 Parasúkshmas = 1 Trasareńu 10 Trasareńus = 1 Mahírajas (particle of dust) 10 Mahírajasas = 1 Bálágra 10 Bálágras = 1 Likhyá 10 Likhyás= 1 Yúka 1o Yúkas = 1 Yavodara 10 Yavodaras = 1 Yava 10 Yava = 1 Angula (1.89 cm or approx 3/4 inch) 6 fingers = 1 Pada (the breadth of it) 2 Padas = 1 Vitasti(span) 2 Vitasti = 1 Hasta (cubit) 4 Hastas = a Dhanu, a Danda, or pauruSa (a man’s height), or 2 Nárikás = 6 feet 2000 Dhanus = 1 Gavyúti (distance to which a cow’s call or lowing can be heard)= 12000 feet 4 Gavyútis = 1 Yojana = 9.09 miles
Calculation of the Speed of Light:
Thus, we can now calculate what is the value of the speed of light in modern units based on the value given as 2202 yojanas in 1/2 nimesh.
= 2202 x 9.09 miles per 0.1065 seconds
= 20016.18 miles per 0.1065 seconds
= 187945 miles per second
As per the modern science speed of light is 186000 miles per second.
Inconsistency occur due to inability to convert the Units Correctly.
Regards,
Keerthi
There're claims of such divine omniscience about everybody's favorite
holy book. Most should be taken with generous doses of NaCl;
One question that should be asked about all such claims is whether the
ancients in their capacity had the means or the background to have
experimentally confirmed such a supposition.
In this case, who knows what a yojana meant anyway? Nobody standardized
it..
Wikipedia quotes -
"The length of the Yojana varied depending on the different standards
adopted by different Indian astronomers. It was taken to be the distance
covered by an ox cart in one day. In the Surya Siddhanta of the 5th
century, for example, a Yojana was equivalent to 5 miles,[1] and the
same was true for Aryabhata's Aryabhatiya (499).[2] By the time of
Paramesvara in the 14th century, the Yojana was more than 1.5 times
larger than it was in Aryabhata's time, thus a Yojana was equivalent to
at least 8 miles by Paramesvara's time.[1]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojana#Variations_on_length
Some other source quotes: 1 yojana is said to comprise either 4 or 8
krosha (a cry or shout, or the range of the voice in calling); and 1
krosha (or goruta ~ as far as a cow’s lowing may be heard, or a bull’s
roar) may represent either 1000 or 2000 daNDa (a rod or staff).
And 'nimiṣhārdha" is itself more a figure of speech than an actual
estimate of time.
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:35:29PM +0530, keerthi kiran wrote:
> Hi,
> I wanted to see the context in which these verses are mentioned in the Rig
> Veda. So I downloaded the whole rig veda text from here
> http://www.sanskritweb.net/rigveda/
> Then, I tried to search the verse given in my original post. Could not
> find it. I did not do a thorough search (since I am in office). Can
> anybody search and tell me where it is?
Griffith's translation available on WikiSource:
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Rig_Veda/Mandala_1/Hymn_50
I initially wondered if that was Griffith's interpretation, but it's
quite straightforward and literal.
"taraNirvishvadarshato jyotiShkR^idasi sUrya | vishvamA bhAsi rochanam"
The quoted verse in the original posting seems like a troll attribution
to the Rgveda. Whoever rigged it however, has pointed to the right
section though (Hymn 50 is about sUrya).
I'm sure people much before that would have tried to infer the speed
of light but their efforts would have been hampered by inaccuracies in
both timing and distance measures. For eg. Have two people on 2
neighbouring hills with an hourglass, open and close the shutter of a
lantern such that the second person initiates the flash only after he
sees the flash from the first person. Measure the amount of sand
fallen through and estimate the distance between the hills. for a
better statistics, measure the amount of sand after a large number of
flash exchanges - to minimize timing inaccuracy. Not that hard an
experiment and people back then were very smart.
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Is this real or cooked up? If real, how could they have made such measurements?
Thanks a lot for your insightful replies. Please let's stick to the topic.This is exactly what I am trying to do. I am trying to find the context and the meaning of the shloka. Please reply to this thread if you know the answer or have a clue about where to find it.
>>Without knowing the background of when this shloka (regarding speed of light) came into existence, in what context, we can never say whether it is correct or wrong.
Regards,
KeerthiOn Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:23 PM, praveen kulkarni <pitu.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
|In ancient Sanskrit "nimish" itself means ...in science, this means cherry picking
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, pradeep <pradeep...@gmail.com> wrote:
|i think it will be irrelevant if all of us are guessing things by reading a little |from wiki links
i think it will be irrelevant if all of us are guessing things by reading a little from wiki links