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[Fábio Márquez]

Caros amigos do grupo!

Algum de vocês poderia me ajudar no que o cura redigiu após a frase "cair no mar vindo as ????"

 https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-O-1760-1778/SMG-ND-SAOJORGE-O-1760-1778_item1/index.html?page=47

Registo de Manoel Vieyra, marido de Maria Pimentel

Atenciosamente, 

Fabio Marques

[Bill Seidler]

I believe he was collecting limpets (lapas), fell, and was never seen again.  Lapas are a very common food here.

Looks to me like:  "Hindo as lapas e nunca mais apereceu" .  I do not understand "hindo", perhaps it is "indo" with different spelling.

Bill Seidler

[Guilherme da Rocha Koehler]

This one is tricky, but one hypothesis is:

"...por cair no mar, hindo (indo) as lapaz (lapas), e nunca mais apareceu." - "...due to falling into the sea—swept away by the waves—and never appearing again."

or alternatively:

"...por cair no mar, vindo as lapaz, e nunca mais apareceu." - "...due to falling into the sea—caught by the surf—and never appearing again."

*Lapa* is an old word referring to the mollusk that clings to coastal rocks and, by extension, to the rocks themselves where it attaches.

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[Bill Seidler]

As far as I knew, "Lapa" was just the mollusk known in English as "Limpet" which are commonly eaten in the Azores.

After checking my Portuguese dictionary, I see that "Lapa" is also an old term in Portuguese for a small cave or grotto (perhaps that's where the name of the mollusk comes from--or vice versa)

So, Guiherme is correct.  It could be the mollusks or the rocks.  Either way, the ocean in presumed to have claimed him.

Bill

[Fábio Márquez]

Obrigado, meus caros Bill e Guilherme!!!

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[Donna Hinson]

The discussion of mollusks known as limpets brought to mind how we used to go to the rocky seashore in Newport, RI with my grandmother to get "periwinkles."  She would boil them with seasonings...just what she used I don't know.  I remember sitting at her table and pulling out the little snails with toothpicks.  I did a google search and found that in Newport: "The common periwinkle (Littorina littorea) is actually an invasive species that arrived on European ballast ships in the 1860s. Because they populate the intertidal zone, they are easy to hand-harvest without any permits."  

It always seemed a treat for us but my guess is those of us who are second generation Portuguese Americans (Azoreans) probably don't harvest periwinkles these days, but it's a wonderful memory of a tradition.  As a child, I wasn't aware that harvesting periwinkles was a tradition of my grandparents homeland.  I definitely learn a lot from this group!  Thank you for the memory!

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