My Great Grandfather

[Janet Pimental]

Good Evening 

I am looking for some information on my great grandfather.  His name was John Miranda.  All i know is that he came from the Azores and came to Bermuda.  Married my great grandmother here in Bermuda (he was  and 22 years old in 1893) had one child, my grandmother, here in Bermuda.  he then left and went to either Fall River or Rhode Island to live and never came back.  All i know is that he passed on May 23 or 24, 1920 (so that would make him about 49 when he died) in either Fall River or Rhode Island.  I cannot find anything on him there and i don't even know where he came from or who his parents were.  

Can anyone help me at all or guide me where to look.

Kind regards
Janet 

[Amy Sylvia]

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[Amy Sylvia]

Hi sorry I sent the records before I finished the email to you. 

I came across these records and not sure if they will help you. 

Amy Sylvia 

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[Nelson A]

Is that him listed as 52 yrs old when he died? You mentioned 49...

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[Janet Pimental]

Good morning 

Thank you for this. I am not sure if this is him or not. It seems as though it can be him, the last name is spelled different and he is older. It is hard to tell because we have absolutely nothing on him except a marriage certificate to my great grandmother from here in Bermuda. But also he was married and as far as we know he was still married to my great grandmother unless he divorced her and didn’t tell her.  But back then anything is possible. He may have had a second wife maybe hence the different spelling of the last name. 

Thank you

Janet

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[J Teixeira]

That looks like a match Amy!  

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[Amy Sylvia]

Hi Janet

The marriage certificate you do have does it list his parents names.  Also have you tried looking for a ship list for when he traveled to Bermuda.  The manifest sometimes mentions who he left behind as a next of kin and where they were from.   You could try to search those records under Joao Miranda or Maranda. You could also search the passport issued from all 3 ports since who are not sure where he was from. The different spelling of the name depends on who wrote the certificate out and how they spelt things.  It’s also common for ages to be off by a few years.  

Feel free to email me when the information and I’ll see what I can do to help. 

Amy

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[Carlos Melo]

Hi Janet,

My great-great-great-grandmother was Maria Emilia Miranda. To my knowledge, she had no brother named Francisco, John's father, who was her contemporary. I found no Francisco Miranda in Rodrigo Rodrigues' book or in the Machado index of marriages. Since Joao Miranda was born around 1871, you can search for his baptism record (parents: Francisco Miranda and Maria) in Ponta Delgada parishes, including Sao Sebastiao, Sao Jose, Arrifes and Relva, but if I were you, I'd follow Amy's advice to confirm the parents' names. 

Best regards,

Carlos

[Janet Pimental]

Thank you all for your. Help. Now I will do some more digging.   And will let you know what else I uncover

Kind regards

Janet

[Carlos Melo]

Hi Janet,

This is the closet hit I could find:

https://arquivos.azores.gov.pt/descriptions/1482638

João Francisco de Miranda, son of Francisco de Miranda and Maria Augusta Cabral, born in Calhetas (Ribeira Grande). 

Date: November 9, 1895.

28 years of age

Good luck!

Carlos

[Boyd McKee Kitchen]

There is a John Mirandios in Fall River in the 1910 US Census with a wife whose name is Emline (wife Emily is informant in the death record). This record lists 3 children: John, Manuel, William. the age is not quite right but it could still be your ancestor considering the errors in Census records.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GRVP-L7P?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AM2N5-6B1&action=view&cc=1727033&lang=en&groupId=

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[Janet Pimental]

Thank you. I did search our records in Bermuda and it did not list them nor for my great grandmother as well. Which is very frustrating. From what I understand after he left for Fall River/ Rhodes island. She wouldn’t come out of her room and barely spoke to anyone. I am trying to research her as well but again it is difficult 

I appreciate any help or advice I can get.

Thank you

Janet

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[Janet Pimental]

Thank you. I appreciate it

[Janet Pimental]

For my great grandmother his wife who also came from the Azores and I don’t know where or who her parents are. Her name was Maria Da Concicao(not sure if spelled correctly ) Paiva (Pavo). I do have her birthdate of December 6 and maybe the year is 1873.

Thanks

Janet

[Amy Sylvia]

Janet

According to the name of your great grandmother and date you provided. I did a search on Family Search and came across this possibility for your grandmother.  While it doesn't say an actual birth date (that I saw), the baptism is only a week after the date of birth you gave.  Along with the father having the last name of Paiva. please note this is just a possibility, I am not familiar with Bermuda records so not sure how to go about finding records from there to confirm parents' names if it is not listed on the marriage certificate.  

In case the link doesn't work it is from Tombo.pt

Villa Franca do Campo baptism church book 1870-1873, year 1873 page 73 certificate #158 Maria

Centro de Conhecimento dos Açores - Registos Paroquiais

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[Janet Pimental]

Good Morning

Ok, Thank you.  I appreciate you help

Kind regards

Janet

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[Janet Pimental]

Hi Amy

There are no records here in bermuda of her, other than her marriage certificate and her death certificate.  we have John Paiva as her father but am not sure that is correct and there is no parents names listed on the marriage certificate.  I am going to try and go back up to the registry to see if they have any other paper work, but i doubt it, 

Kind regards

[Cheri Mello]

I'm not following this thread. Did anyone suggest "Portuguese Bermudians: Early History and Reference Guide 1849-1949" by Patricia M. Mudd , 1991

Cheri Mello
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[Janet Pimental]

Good Morning

I have a question would you be willing to transcribe the whole writing of the above text, for me in English as I do not read, write or speak Portuguese.  So therefore, I cannot understand what it is saying.  I will understand if you can't.

Please let me know.

Kind regards

Janet

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[Amy Sylvia]

Hi Janet

I am not seeing any documents to transcribe but I have taught myself to find keywords. I’m willing to try and help. 

Amy

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[Carlos Melo]

Hi Janet,

Did you mean this document?

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1870-1874/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1870-1874_item1/index.html?page=303

The record states that Maria was born at 6:00 am on December 13, 1873, and baptised the next day in the Priory church of São Miguel, Mother Church of Vila Franca do Campo county, and is the legitimate daughter of Manuel Luis de Paiva, sailor, and Maria dos Anjos, housekeeper, who lived in Beco do Perigo (? not sure). The paternal grandparents were Joao Luis de Paiva and Ana Thomasia, and the maternal grandparents were Francisco de Sousa and Candida Jacinta. The godparents were Manuel Jacinto dos Santos, married, shoemaker, and Mariana the Jesus.

This is a quick translation. Hope I haven't made any mistake. 

If you'd like a full transcription and translation, I may find some time later today or tomorrow. Just please let me know if this is the right document. 

Cheers,

Carlos

[Janet Pimental]

He it is. This is the best I can do for the picture. It was in the link you sent to me

See below 

Thanks

Janet

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[Janet Pimental]

Yes, but I tink it was entry 158 that went onto the next page.   Can you let me know what that one says so I can be sure. 

Sorry to be so much trouble but greatly appreciate the help

Thank you

Janet

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[Carlos Melo]

Hi Janet,

I translated the correct baptism record, which continues to the next page. IMG_1196 refers to the baptism record of a boy, son of Manuel (something) Pereira. Do you need help with this document as well?

[Janet Pimental]

Oh no.  That is fine.  

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[Janet Pimental]

Hi Carlos. When you have a moment if you can translate it all for me I would greatly appreciate it. 

Kind regards

Janet

[Cheri Mello]

Janet,

How to "read" the records is here:

https://www.azoresgenweb.org/Research_Aids/finding_roots_9.html

Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see a link that will take you to a line by line transcription. The records all follow a format. It's how us non-native speakers learned to "translate."

You are in the 3rd time period. So you want those baptisms.

Cheri Mello
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[Janet Pimental]

Now I will have to try and find his baptism records in a new birth year of 1868. I guess he was older

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[Janet Pimental]