Bartolomeu da Costa - mid-1640s Ponta Garça – March 27, 1712 Ribeira Seca

[Carlos Melo]

Hi,

Bartolomeu da Costa was born in the mid 1640s according to this death record on March 27, 1712 in Ribeira Seca:

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/index.html?page=61

He married Maria da Silva, who was a widow, in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande on June 23, 1683:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1667-1721/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1667-1721_item1/index.html?page=24

The marriage record states that Bartolomeu da Costa was from Ponta Garça and no other identifier (no birth records available before 1675) 

Around that time, Rodrigo Rodrigues mentions a Bartolomeu da Costa, who in 1677, as an adult, donated his share of his mother's inheritance to his niece (text below). His mother was named Margarida da Costa. 

Bartolomeu da Costa's first-born child was Margarida da Costa:

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1667-1721/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-C-1667-1721_item1/index.html?page=76

Other than the location (Ponta Garça), age ( his potential parents, António de Roi Frois and Margarida da Costa/ da Costa Carneiro/ ou de Roi Borges,  married around 1646, according to RR, and all his potential siblings married in the early 1880s, according to parish records), and the fact that his first-born child was his mother's namesake, I have nothing else to support this hypothesis. 

Does anyone have evidence that the Bartolomeu da Costa that RR mentions below never married (e.g., became a priest or something)?

Here's a translation from RR's book:

"António de Roi Frois, who lived in Ponta Garça after his marriage (Note N.º 5) (See Note N.º 27.º, Chapter 78.º), married  Margarida da Costa ou de Roi Borges (Cap.º 78.º § 17.º, N.º 7) around 1646.

They had:
3 -João de Frois, which follows:
3- Bartolomeu da Costa, (See Note N.º 3). *Its actually 5
3- Margarida da Costa Carneiro (Vide Nota N.º 5). Married Ponta Garça on 1.13.1676 Captain José da Costa Simãs (Cap.º 140.º § 1.º, N.º 4).

Note N.º 5 - António de Roi Frois (N.º 2 § 1.º)

"On July 14, 1677, in Vila Franca, Bartolomeu da Costa, of legal age, son of António Roi Frois, living in Ponta Garça, makes a donation of all his movable and immovable property from the inheritance of his mother Margarida da Costa and those that came to belong to him from his father António de Roi Frois in favor of his niece Margarida, daughter of José Costa Simas and Margarida da Costa, who is represented in this deed by her father José da Costa Simas, also a resident of Ponta Garça (notes by Manuel Franco de Aguiar, Book of 1671 to 1678)."

Is this too much of wild guess?

I'd appreciate your opinion.

Thanks,

Carlos

[Emanuel Resendes]

Carlos,

Thanks for this information.  Bartolomeu is my wife's 12th generation direct ancestor.  From his death record, it says he as 58 year old which would put his birth around 1654.  Your reference to RR is new to me and makes sense especially if his parents married around 1646.  I'm assuming he donated his belongings because he was moving and then ended up in Ribeira Seca.

Thanks,

Emanuel Resendes

[Emanuel Resendes]

Not sure if you had Bartolomeu's daughters bapstism: https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1664-1701/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-B-1664-1701_item1/index.html?page=74

Baptized 22AUG1684

On Wednesday, June 24, 2026 at 11:54:49 AM UTC-4 Carlos Melo wrote:

[Carlos Melo]

Hi Emanuel,

Thank you very much for your reply. I'm really happy to hear that you also find this connection plausible. 

Thanks for sharing the baptism record. I already had it, but it's always great to get confirmation. In Margarida da Costa's children's baptism records, the priest sometimes states that she was born in Ponta Garca; other times, she is baptized in Ribeira Seca. Here you can find more information on her children from my tree in FamilySearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/P75X-GSN

Thanks!

Carlos

[Cheri Mello]

Today, Sao Miguel island has 2 freguesias named Ribeira Seca (yeah, I think they shouldn't have done that).  I believe the one you speak of is in the council of Vila Franca do Campo. Today, Vila Franca (the council) has 6 freguesias: Agua d'Alto (AdA), Sao Pedro (SP), Sao Miguel Arcanjo (SMA), Ribeira Seca (in red), Ribeira das Tainhas (RdT), and Ponta Garca (PG). 

Back in the day, Sao Miguel Arcanjo absorbed Ribeira das Tainhas and Ribeira Seca. R. Seca became its own freguesia in June, 2002. Before that, it was just a neighborhood (lugar). You can find their records in SMA, usually.

I'm not sure you have the right Ribeira Seca. But I'm not really following this thread. Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Carlos Melo]

Hi Cheri, 

Thanks for your information, but I do have the right Ribeira Seca, from Ribeira Grande. Bartolomeu da Costa got married in Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande, and in his marriage record, the priest states that he his from Ponta Garça, Vila Franca do Campo.

Thanks,

Carlos

[Cheri Mello]

Carlos, 

Ok, good! I didn't want you going down the wrong path. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Carlos Melo]

Been there, done that... even though I was born and raised in S. Miguel, a few months ago while researching the Leao line (Vila Franca do Campo), I made this exact mistake. The marriage record mentioned that the groom lived in Ribeira Seca, so I went to look for his parents' records in RS, Ribeira Grande. I've learned the hard way... 

This time around, I was researching a line in RS, Ribeira Grande that mentioned a native of Ponta Garça, so I was going the other way around, but thanks again for the heads-up!

Carlos

[John JMR]

BTW, Anbtonio da RoiFrois and  Margarida da Costa ou de Roi Borges are my ancestors. Thanks for tall the info guys. Do you have the link for the obito mentioned?

JR

[Carlos Melo]

Hi John,

Here is the link to Bartolomeu da Costa's death record (March 27, 1712, Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande):

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741/SMG-RG-RIBEIRASECA-O-1694-1741_item1/index.html?page=61

There's no will.... If he is indeed Antonio Roi Frois and Margarida da Costa's son, he gave away his inheritance to his niece, so I'm not surprised, but I still can't rule out the possibility that he became a priest. Why would he relinquish his inheritance and marry a widow from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande?

Cheers,

Carlos