Church of Sao Jose, Salga, Nordeste, Sao Miguel < Pacheco, Correia
Jay Fraga
and then a new one was built in the early 1900's. I'm researching my
Pacheco and Correia family lines (both from Salga), and I'm hoping to
see anything that might be related to either one of them. I know that
Antonio and Francisca Pacheco were brother and sister, and were born
sometime in the 1860s. Francisca married Francisco Correia, who was
born in the same time frame. All of them emigrated to New Bedford
between 1890 and 1910, and I'm having a heck of a time piecing family
info from the islands together before then.
Are records from Sao Jose available at my local family history
center? I'm in Western Mass, so Ludlow MA would be my best shot. I'm
not very close to Dartmouth- that would be difficult at best to get
down there.
George Pacheco, if you happen to read this, I'm very curious to know
if your Pacheco's are from the Nordeste area of Sao Miguel.
Thanks to all in advance,
Jay Fraga
Lew White
Generation No. 1
1. MANUEL CORREIA. He married BARBARA DE JESUS December 05, 1849 in Sao
Jose, Salga
Children of MANUEL CORREIA and BARBARA DE JESUS are:
2. i. IGNACIO CORREIA.
ii. FRANCISCO CORREIA1, b. Abt. 1819; m. FRANCISCA ROSA,
February 07, 1841; b. Abt. 1821.
Generation No. 2
2. IGNACIO CORREIA (MANUEL). He married ANA JACINTHA December 05, 1849 in
Sao Jose, Salga, daughter of FRANCISCO SOAREZ and MARIA JACINTHA.
More About IGNACIO CORREIA:
Baptism: N.S. do Rosario, Achadinha
Children of IGNACIO CORREIA and ANA JACINTHA are:
3. i. FRANCISCA CORREIA, b. September 1859, Sao Jose, Lomba da
Salga, Sao Miguel; d. Bef. August 09, 1917.
ii. MARIA CORREIA1, b. February 28, 1851.
More About MARIA CORREIA:
Baptism: March 09, 1851
iii. MANUEL CORREIA, b. March 30, 1855.
Generation No. 3
3. FRANCISCA CORREIA (IGNACIO, MANUEL) was born September 1859 in Sao Jose,
Lomba da Salga, Sao Miguel, and died Bef. August 09, 1917, She married
MANUEL BARBOSA5 1881 in Sao Jose, Lomba da Salga son of MANUEL BARBOSA and
FRANCISCA DE JESUS. He was born February 1854 in Achada, NS da Anunciação,
Sao Miguel, and died January 04, 1913 in Falmouth, MA.
Notes for FRANCISCA CORREIA:
[MSW CPD August 2002.FTW]
Emigrated from Achada, San Miguel, Azores.
In Azorean records could be Francisca or Maria Francisca or Francisca
something (like Francisca de Conceicao)
Death date is unknown. Elsie said her Grandmother died before she was born
(1917) but Cecelia say she was 3 (1924) when her grandmother Francisca died.
More About FRANCISCA CORREIA:
Burial: St. Joseph's Cemetery, Gifford St., Falmouth11
Immigration: 18931
Occupation: September 01, 1889, Housewife
Property: May 05, 1915, Mortgaged 12 acres by Manuel M. and Mary J. Pimental
Jay Fraga
very closely related to my Correia's. I think the key is in
generation 1 that you printed:
Children of MANUEL CORREIA and BARBARA DE JESUS are:
2. i. IGNACIO CORREIA.
ii. FRANCISCO CORREIA1, b. Abt. 1819; m. FRANCISCA ROSA,
February 07, 1841; b. Abt. 1821.
father of my Great Great Grandfather Francisco Correia.
This is my Francisco, and we have no info farther back than him:
Francisco Correia Parents: unk & unk
Birth: 1863 Salga, Nordeste, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal
Death: 1947 Massachusetts, United States .
He married:
Francisca Pacheco Parents: unk Pacheco & unk
Birth: 1865 Salga, Nordeste, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal
Death: 1926 Massachusetts, USA.
Other info: Her Brother, Antonio Pacheco Birth: abt 1868 Salga,
Nordeste, Sao Miguel, Azores, Portugal.
Thank you in advance for any help!
Jay
Richard Francis Pimentel
According to the information I have there is one film for Sao Jose in Salga.
The film covers the time 1839 to 1883. Prior to that time the people most
likely went to Nossa Senhora do Rosario in Achadinha or Santo Reis Magos in
Fenais da Ajuda.
You would have to go to your local Family History Center and order the film.
The film for Salga, the number is 1438015. This film also has some records
from Sao Pedro in Nordestinho.
George Pacheco is from Bretanha.
Rick.
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire
Researching: Pimentel, Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha
from Sao Miguel, Acores
Jason Fraga
Jay
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My husband's grandfather was Antonio PACHECO who was born in the
village of Sao Roque on Sao Miguel ~1885. I had found out that his
father was Joseph / Joao PACHECO in that village. I have his
mother's name, but can't think of it at this second. (Information
is in archives of this Board and in the archives of the Azores Mailing
List at www.rootsweb.com )
"Tony" PACHECO came to Massachusetts ~1905 and settled in
Cambridge. He married "Elsie" MOURA ~1911 in Cambridge and had 7
children - twin boys born after his unexpected death.
I've been looking for more information on this family for several
years, and have not been able to find any relatives of Tony in the
USA. And, my husband does not believe any other PACHECO's in
Cambridge (or in MA) are related to him.
Betty (near Lowell, MA)
mnk
My mother was from Salga and if you've ever been there you know its a
small village so we're probably all related. According to what my
mother had told me the Sao Jose Church was not a seperate parish until
the 1800's it was an irmida (chapel) of Nossa Senhora do Rosario,
Achadinha. If you trace your family back you will see on some of the
marriages or baptism records, the ceremonies are often performed at
the irmida, but recorded at the main church N. Senhora do Rosario.
Also Lew, in your generation 2, you mention Francisco Soares and Maria
Jacintha, these probably are my gggrandparents. I do have a daughter
Anna for them born on Nov. 15, 1821 in Lomba da Salga (Salga was not a
seperate village at this time), Achadinha. Do you know if Francisco
Soares was a native of Sao Jorge, Nordeste? If so he is my
gggrandfather and I can give you more dates and facts if you're
interested.
Maria
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Cliff Nye
Hello my friend. I was just reading Ricks message to you and noticed that
you were dealing with Salga. The Church is the São José Church in Salga, São
Miguel. I have access to an index to the microfilm at the LDS Church Family
History Centers. This is a private index but it covers all the individual
frames on the roll of microfilm. If you have certain names you need looked,
I can tell you information which includes:
The year of an incident(baptismo, casamento or obitos), the page number in
the book from the church(which that roll of film covers) and the document
number. With this information, you can find a document in minutes, vs.
having to sit and read or examine each page on the roll of microfilm.
Let me know the names you are looking for and I will see what I can find.
God Bless
Cliff Nye -²In HIS Service"-Member: Association of Professional Genealogists
> Researching Flores: Canhoto, Pimentel, Avellar(also on Corvo) Carvalho,
Furtado, Nunes, and, on the continent, Rocha. Also, Capelas, São Miguel
for Simão and Medeiros. Praying for all our troops in Afghanistan & Iraq
Member: For The Troops. Sending Care Packages to our military overseas.
Cliff Nye
I also just noticed after I mailed the other email to you that you are also
possibly interested in Achadinha. Their are two rolls of microfilm for Nossa
Senhora do Rosario in Achadinha that I have indexes for also. So I think I
can cover everything in that area for you, for all three rolls of film.
Let me know
God Bless
Cliff Nye -²In HIS Service"-Member: Association of Professional Genealogists
> Researching Flores: Canhoto, Pimentel, Avellar(also on Corvo) Carvalho,
Furtado, Nunes, and, on the continent, Rocha. Also, Capelas, São Miguel
for Simão and Medeiros. Praying for all our troops in Afghanistan & Iraq
Member: For The Troops. Sending Care Packages to our military overseas.
On 3/21/08 2:15 PM, "Richard Francis Pimentel" <Rpim...@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
Jason Fraga
I went down to my local FHC this morning and ordered the Sao Jose microfilm.
The people there were very friendly, and this was my first experience with
the FHC. Hopefully the films come in soon, but any help you can offer would
be outstanding. I can't read or speak Portuguese, so deciphering the films
will certainly be a stretch for me.
There are four people (my GG Grandparents) that were from Salga that should
be able to unlock some of my deeper family history if you're able to find
information on them:
Antonio (or Antone) Pacheco, born about 1868.
He married Maria Souza, born about 1873
Francisco Correia, born about 1863
He married Francisca Pacheco, born about 1865
All of their kids (including my Great Grandparents) were born after 1887, so
I don't believe we'll find any references to their children.
Also, if it looks weird that Pacheco comes up twice above, it is. Antonio
Pacheco and Francisca Pacheco were siblings. Antonio married Maria Souza,
and Francisca married Francisco Correia. As it turns out, Antonio and Maria
had a son (Antone) that married a daughter of Francisca and Francisco
(Adeline). So, my Great Grandparents were first cousins.
What happens in the islands, stays in the islands, I guess.
Thanks again for any help, as I'm certainly stumped on my family history
that's any older than the above people.
Jay Fraga
Cliff Nye
Didn't have a lot of success but here are some results:
#1 *B Pacheco, Antonio C 1868 7 11 Child in Baptismo (on the microfilm, go to page 7(upper right hand corner of page on right of book)
(document # 11- in margin above given name)
B Pacheco, Antonio Jose --Joanna de Medeiros GP 1868 7 11 Paternal Grandparents
B Pacheco, Manoel Jose --Maria Jose P 1868 7 11 Parents
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de --Victoria de Mello GP 1868 7 11 Maternal Grandparents
#2) B Medeiros, Thomas de-- Antonia Ferreira GP 1865 5 11 Maternal Grandparents in Baptismo
B Pacheco, Jacintho --Dorothea Rosa P 1865 5 11 Parents
B Pacheco, Jacintho --Maria Francisca GP 1865 5 11 Paternal Grandparents
B Maria Pacheco C 1865 5 11 Child in baptismo
Misc. listings
B Pacheco, Manoel Jose --Maria Jose P 1860 97 1 Index item with same parents as Antonio Jose Pacheco, above
B Pacheco, Manoel Jose --Maria Jose P 1868 7 11 Index item with same parents as Antonio Jose Pacheco, above
#3) B Pacheco, Jose --Joanna de Mendonca GP 1860 97 1 Paternal Grandparents in baptismo
B Pacheco, Jose C 1860 97 1 Child in baptismo
B Pacheco, Manoel Jose-- Maria Jose P 1860 97 1 parents (same parents as Antonio on top of page)
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de-- Victoria de Mendonca GP 1860 97 1 Maternal Grandparents
#4) B Pacheco, Jose --Joanna de Mendonca GP 1860 97 1 Paternal Grandparents in Baptismo
B Pacheco, Jose C 1860 97 1 Chlld in Baptismo
B Pacheco, Manoel Jose --Maria Jose P 1860 97 1 Parents
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de -- Victoria de Mendonca GP 1860 97 1 Maternal Grandparents
Other listings under the Souza name for these two individuals listed directly above
M Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca BP 1854 37 2
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1855 43 2
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1858 78 1
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1860 97 1
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1862 9 15
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1867 6 15
O Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca P 1869 4 11
O Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca SD 1872 8 1
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1872 27 7
O Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca P 1872 9 6
M Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca BP 1875 5 6
B Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1850 117 1
M Souza, Joao Pacheco de Victoria de Mendonca GP 1877 3 2
Misc. Listings
M Souza, Manoel Pacheco de --Maria Jose BG 1843 16 1
M Souza, Manoel Pacheco de-- Maria Jose GP 1878 4 5
B Souza, Manoel Pacheco de-- Maria Jose GP 1883 4 9
Search results for full families of the above three listings:
#5)M Correa, Manoel- -Barbara de Jesus GP 1843 15 1
M Ferreira, Jose --Susana de Jesus BP 1843 15 1
M Canello, Antonio de Souza- Antonia de Jesus BP 1843 16 1
M Pacheco, Joao-- Victoria de Mendonca GP 1843 16 1
#6) M Barboza, Manoel Furtado --Claudina Rosa BP 1878 4 5
M Souza, Jose Pacheco de --Margarida Julia Barboza BG 1878 4 5
M Souza, Manoel Pacheco de- -Maria Jose GP 1878 4 5
#7) B Souza, Jose Pacheco de-- Margarida Julia Barboza P 1883 4 9
B Souza, Manoel de C 1883 4 9
B Souza, Manoel Pacheco de-- Maria Jose GP 1883 4 9
B-baptismo, M=casamento, O=obito
In listings, you can usually tell paternal from maternal grandparents by the last name. Rather obvious. The initials after the names mean:
P=Parents, GP=Grandparents, SD=spouse and diseased in obito, BP= Brides parents.
The last are the reference numbers, first the year of the incident, then the page number (upper right hand corner of page on right of the open book being microfilmed) and then the document number(in the margin of the book above the given name.
Jason
This has been rather hard to search since I know nothing about your family other then what you gave me. I think the only one that is possibly correct, based on your information, is Antonio. The other ones were search results based on the Grandparents names from other searches. So
I just wanted to say that. Once you have had time to look these over, let me know what you think. If one or two are the correct ones for your family, then I can use that information to search further, looking for those names in the search results. Listings between #4-5 are misc. listings on the one set of Grandparents. If you think that these are correct, I will “Sort” the list to look for these particular names. Otherwise, I didn’t want to go through all of that work for nothing.
Let me know what you think. Thanks and God Bless
> Researching Flores: Canhoto, Pimentel, Avellar(also on Corvo) Carvalho,
Furtado, Nunes, and, on the continent, Rocha. Also, Capelas, São Miguel
for Simão and Medeiros. Praying for all our troops in Afghanistan & Iraq
Member: For The Troops. Sending Care Packages to our military overseas.
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A message this morning reminded me of Joao PACHECO's wife's name -
Jacintha COSTA (village of Sao Roque). I went back to the archives
of this Group, and I'd like to copy/paste what I said in Dec. 07:
It is very rarely that I see the village of Sao Roque on Sao Miguel
mentioned on this Group or the Azores List.
For this morning, I'll just offer the names of my husband's
great-grandparents. I'm taking it from an old posting of mine in
the
archives of this Group:
Joseph PACHECO and Jacintha COSTA
Sao Roque, Sao Miguel, Azores
Francisco MOURA and Philomena ROSE
(unknown village), Sao Miguel, Azores
Antonio PACHECO, 20, and "Elsie" MOURA, 12, came to Massachusetts
~1905
(separately), and married in Cambridge, MA, in 1911.
Elsie's family came over at different times. I don't know if any
other
family member of "Tony" came to the East Coast of U.S.
Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)
(I know there are many PACHECO's, but I can't connect them up with
Tony.)
(I know there were other MOURA families in Brooklyn, NY, at the time,
and I
suspect they were relatives, as "Manny" MOURA moved there (younger
brother
of Elsie).
> and then a new one was built in the early 1900's. I'm researching my
> Pacheco and Correia family lines (both from Salga), and I'm hoping to
Jason Fraga
Cliff,
Thank you for sorting through what looks like a tremendous amount of info. I’ll be honest, you and I know the same amount of info on my gg grandparents, which is not a heck of a lot. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I think you have it right on Antonio Pacheco in the #1 slot. Because I just don’t know any other info, the rest are all just names and may or may not be related to me.
I think you’re on the right track with Antonio. Just curious- was that in a Salga film, or was it in one of the neighboring towns or larger churches?
Thank you so much,
Jay Fraga