Trying to Find information on Simbron (Cimbron) in the Azores

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Tom Simbron

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Jul 31, 2019, 4:14:14 PM7/31/19
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Hello, I traces my Lineage back to Lagoa and I am trying to find more info on an ancestor.

Jose Pereira Simbron (Cimbron)
Born: 15 February 1898
Lagoa, Azores

Cheri Mello

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Jul 31, 2019, 7:53:13 PM7/31/19
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Hi Tom S,

Since you have a name, date, and place, you can utilize the Azorean Government website (CCA = Centro de Conhecimento dos Azores) to look up your ancestor. Go through Tombo.pt to navigate. It's easier and it will link you to the CCA: https://tombo.pt/m/lag  If you need English, click the British flag towards the upper right corner. Pick the church in the left column. Then go to the baptism section and click on the record set that covers 1898.

If you need help "reading" Portuguese, the format that the records follow can be found on the Azores GenWeb here (you are in the 3rd time period):
www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  You want the first half of the alphabet in the Research aids, then the Fs for Finding your Roots. NOTE: The WorldGenWeb is down at the moment.

Cheri Mello
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Tom Simbron

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Aug 6, 2019, 4:22:26 PM8/6/19
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Thanks for your help. I couldn't find anything useful. 


On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 7:53:13 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
Hi Tom S,

Since you have a name, date, and place, you can utilize the Azorean Government website (CCA = Centro de Conhecimento dos Azores) to look up your ancestor. Go through Tombo.pt to navigate. It's easier and it will link you to the CCA: https://tombo.pt/m/lag  If you need English, click the British flag towards the upper right corner. Pick the church in the left column. Then go to the baptism section and click on the record set that covers 1898.

If you need help "reading" Portuguese, the format that the records follow can be found on the Azores GenWeb here (you are in the 3rd time period):
www.worldgenweb.org/azrwgw/  You want the first half of the alphabet in the Research aids, then the Fs for Finding your Roots. NOTE: The WorldGenWeb is down at the moment.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 1:14 PM Tom Simbron <tomsi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, I traces my Lineage back to Lagoa and I am trying to find more info on an ancestor.

Jose Pereira Simbron (Cimbron)
Born: 15 February 1898
Lagoa, Azores

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Cheri Mello

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Aug 6, 2019, 4:24:51 PM8/6/19
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Tom S,

You go to Lagoa, you go to the books containing 1898, and you find your Jose in that set of records. It's there, unless you have incorrect information (wrong date or wrong location).

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JR

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Aug 6, 2019, 5:42:12 PM8/6/19
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Yes he is there: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1897-1899/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1897-1899_item1/P209.html

Jose, bap- March 13- 1898, born- Feb 24, 1898, son of Joao Pereira Cymbron, campaneo and Maria da Gloria, domestic, natives of this freguesia of NS do Rosario, Lagoa, where they were received and are parishioners, residing on Marina Street; paternal grandson of Manoel Pereira and Victoria Emilia, maternal grandson of Jose da Costa Teves and Augusta de Jesus; padrinhos (godparents) are: Manoel de Oliveira Aserido? and, married, and Maria da Conceicao, married.

JR

Joe Matias

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Aug 6, 2019, 5:43:36 PM8/6/19
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Hi Tom,I sent your Jose's birth record here and I am not sure if you missed it.

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Tom Simbron

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Aug 6, 2019, 5:43:42 PM8/6/19
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I went through them all and couldn't find him. I think I went through about 300 pages.

Cheri Mello

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Aug 6, 2019, 5:45:04 PM8/6/19
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Looks like two other people found it. It appears you have the wrong date. Cheri

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Tom Simbron

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Aug 7, 2019, 10:06:58 AM8/7/19
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Joe,

I did somehow miss it. Thank you so much!

JR

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Aug 7, 2019, 4:26:46 PM8/7/19
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Ancestors of Jose Pereira Cymbron

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

        1.  Jose Pereira Cymbron, born 24 Feb 1898 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.  He was the son of 2. Joao Pereira Cymbron and 3. Maria da Gloria.

 

Generation No. 2

 

        2.  Joao Pereira Cymbron, born 28 Jul 1868 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.  He was the son of 4. Manuel de Medeiros Pereira and 5. Vitoria Emilia.  He married 3. Maria da Gloria 24 Nov 1890 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.

        3.  Maria da Gloria, born 21 Apr 1872 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.  She was the daughter of 6. Jose da Costa Rego or Teves and 7. Augusta Emilia de Jesus.

       

Notes: No-27

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1890-1899/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1890-1899_item1/P41.html


Children of Joao Cymbron and Maria are:

                        

        1               i.    Jose Pereira Cymbron, born 24 Feb 1898 in NS do Rosario da Lagoa.


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Tom Simbron

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Aug 7, 2019, 9:19:22 PM8/7/19
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JR,

How did you find this information so easily? Are the names indexed somewhere? I would like to start tracing more if possible.

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JesseAndDeborah Mendonca

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Aug 7, 2019, 10:01:38 PM8/7/19
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Oh, TOM.  IT IS A JOURNEY. I recently helped someone for the first time on the Hawaiian Portuguese FB site.  I was so proud that I could finally help someone else.  

I do have a question for everyone.  Does Domestic on a marriage record after the wife’s name mean they came from that place?   I was thinking it was her occupation.  

Debbie



JR

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Aug 7, 2019, 11:07:49 PM8/7/19
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The baptisms are indexed for a certain period. I simply looked in the year previous to the first baptism and that's where the marriage was located. Cymbron is from a family of nobles going way back. But you have to trace it back.

When you on CCA, look for Rosario indexes and click it. Look for baptisms.

Domestica or domestico means her occupation. 

JR

Cheri Mello

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Aug 7, 2019, 11:54:25 PM8/7/19
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Domestic...of the home (housewife).
Cheri
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JesseAndDeborah Mendonca

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Aug 8, 2019, 12:20:30 AM8/8/19
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Cheri, why doesn’t it say the husband’s occupation?   

Debbie. 



Cheri Mello

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Aug 8, 2019, 12:29:57 AM8/8/19
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Debbie,

It usually does. Many are campones or trabalhador (farmer or laborer). You'd have to give me a record to look at.
Cheri Mello
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