New To Group - Researching my Terceira Lines: Ferreira, Coehlo de Melo, Corvelo (Terra Cha), Alves de Azevedo, Cardoso Toste (Riberinha), Ferreira de Lima (Porto Judeu)

[Cecilia Lopes]

Hello all,

New to this group, and researching my lineage (both parents from Terceira) in regards to the family names in subject line. 

Is anyone here on GedMatch? My GedMatch number:  RE1276480

Thanks.

Cecilia (Ferreira) Lopes

[JesseAndDeborah Mendonca]

Yes, to GEDMatch. My husband’s grandparents were from São Miguel and Madeira and Brazil.    I wish more people downloaded their DNA to GEDMatch.  I also have gotten good info from FTDNA that has been the most helpful as is this group.  I will look for your number.  

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca

Debbie Shepherd Mendonca

(jessdebmendonca at gmail.com) Researching:

1. LUIZ surname— including Luiz de SOUZA, PIMENTEL, Antonio CABRAL, and PEREIRA—on Sao Miguel (Sao Roque, Ponta Delgada) and North Kohala, Hawaii, Hawaii

2. MENDONCA and AGUIAR Surnames on Madeira (Santana, but perhaps other places); Sao Paulo, Brazil; Hawi. Hawaii, Hawaii; Oakland and San Leandro, California

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[Bill Seidler]

Hello Cecilia,

Welcome: I hope you find this group as helpful as I have over the past several years.  

I have at least 350 years of ancestry from Ribeirinha so I thought we would match.  There are others on this list from Ribeirinha that I connect with in several ways in very tangled trees.  I did check GEDMATCH (my kit is T775218).  There are many kits that match both you and I but surprisingly, we do not match each other.

My ancestral names in Ribeirinha are Dutra, Vaz Dinis, Evangelho, and Rocha (among many others).  They are mostly from Feteira and some of these lines cross between Ribeirinha and Porto Judeu parishes.

Good luck on your search.

Bill Seidler 

[Cheri Mello]

Only about 20% of people from each company upload to GedMatch, to utilize their advanced tools. So 80% of people do NOT upload to GedMatch. So if you want to find 100% of your matches, you have to test or transfer to the main ones: Family Tree DNA, MyHeritage, AncestryDNA, and to a lesser extent, 23andMe.

I have found the most Portuguese cousins on FamilyTree DNA. That may be because the company was founded in 2000 and the Azores DNA Project was founded in 2005, so there's some longevity there. However, my dad has one Portuguese 1st cousin on Ancestry and I think one 2C. On the American branches, I've found something with all the companies.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Cecilia Lopes]

Thanks, Cherri-

I tested through 23andMe & Family Tree DNA, so have those two covered.  I had my brother test through Ancestry, to see what else we would pick up. I need to play around on MyHeritage still. 

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[Cecilia Lopes]

Hi Bill,

From Porto Judeu, my maternal grandfather's ancestors had the last name Lima (and when they came to America, some became Lemos/Lemas). My maternal grandfather's mother, Leonore Toste Freitas (Lima), was born in Brazil, after the family moved there from Terceira, but they returned and I belive she lived in Sao Bento.

My maternal grandmother's side was from Ribeirinha: Emilia Alves Cardosa Toste. I have a lot on the Alves side, but not the Cardoso Toste.

My father's side was from Terra Cha, but a small family, and not many descendants. They were Coelho de Melo Avila (going back to Altatres) and Sousa de Ferreira. Also Corvelo Martins.

Of the the surnames you listed, I think Rocha is the only one I recognize from my tree.

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Cecilia,

You'll need to have your brother download his raw data from Ancestry and transfer it to FTDNA and My Heritage. The transfer and matching are free. The tools are $19 and $29 respectively.

FTDNA has projects. You need to join the Azores DNA Project. As a group , we can pool our sources to form pockets or clusters. Once we get the clusters going, we will be able to get a better idea of how long our DNA was in a location and help identify those with no idea where they came from. For those with fragmented DNA, we may be able to help them focus their research - they will have an idea of where to look. Also, there are tools for those in group projects. You can toggle on or off the comparing with others in the project vs. the whole FTDNA database. Also, as our endogamy starts to take shape, we will be able to get a better handle on that as well.

Here are the join instructions:                    

Log into the FTDNA page with the kit number and password.

Across the top is says: myFTDNA, DNA Tests, Projects....Point at Projects. When the drop down menu appears, click "Join a project."

If the Azores Islands appears on the top, click the link and scroll down to the JOIN button at the end.

If the Azores Islands is not suggested, scroll down to where it says "Search by Surname" and type: azores.

When Azores Islands appears, click the link and follow the directions.                      

Thanks, Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer), Azores DNA Project

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[JesseAndDeborah Mendonca]

One of the best things about Family Tree DNA is that you can upload DNA from any site for free.  To open more services it costs only $19.   I only paid for the extra on the person I needed more info from.   

After doing some major searching for US ancestors, I found that my siblings and my parents and I each have snippets of DNA that have more or less in common with  different known ancestors.  Knowing that has helped me search More effectively with an adopted DNA cousin for which of my deceased relatives is most likely her father or grandfather.  That is why I find being connected to multiple sites is a must when finding Azores matches.  

Debbie

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[Bill Seidler]

Using info from your tree on ancestry I was able to find your maternal grandmother's mother's baptism that shows her marriage, her husband's obit, and her death in the margin notes

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-B-1890-1899_item1/P125.html (lower left side)

Here is her marriage to your maternal grandmother's father: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1900-1911/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-C-1900-1911_item1/P125.html (starts lower left)

I hope this helps.  You probably already have this info, but I do know that these records provide info not yet on your ancestry tree.

Bill Seidler