Phellipe Sardinha-Maria Rapoza-Faial da Terra

[Fábio Márquez]

 Hello everyone!

I'm having a bit of a problem with a situation here. The couple Phellipe Sardinha and Maria Rapoza, from Faial da Terra, had two daughters Marias, one born in 1676:

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700_item1/index.html?page=129

and the other born in 1678:

https://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1555-1700_item1/index.html?page=131

I would like to know if anyone has ever encountered something like this, as I suspect that the first may “have left this life" briefly, as I believe the couple had no reason to give the same name to a child born less than two years after the first. The problem is that the death records for Faial da Terra do not cover this period.

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

It was not uncommon for families to have more than one Maria. In cases like this in adulthood they would be known by different names such as Maria da Estrella and Maria de Jesus. Then I have also seen where the first one died as an infant and they named the next girl the same name. The only way to know for sure is if there is a death record. which sadly do not exist  for the time period you are looking at. If you do not find any marriage records for one then you may assume they died but then again they may not have ever married or went into a religious order.

Rick

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[Philippe GARNIER]

Hi Fabio,

It's very frequent with the first name Maria to have 2 or more daughters.

Same with manoel to sons.

Best regrads

Philippe GARNIER

Paris -France

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[Cheri Mello]

Multiple Marias are fine. Typically, the first one went by Maria and the rest went by their 2nd name.

And while you are asking about naming practices, João Ventura will be giving a class on it:

Cheri Mello
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[Diana Bawn]

Hi Fabio, 

It’s true that names got recycled if an elder sibling passed. However, my very religious grandmother from Pico gave “Mary” as first name to both of her living daughters born 1 year apart, and we always called them by their middle names. As such, I never gave it a second thought to see multiple living daughters who shared the first name Maria.  

Cheers, 

Diana

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On Sep 10, 2025, at 11:53, Fábio Márquez <boni...@gmail.com> wrote:



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[Fábio Márquez]

 Thank you, Phellipe, Francis, Chery, Diana...

I just need to know if my Maria Rapoza, married to Manoel Carreiro in 1696, is the Maria of 1676 or the one of 1678.

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